Hello everyone!
I just purchased a unlocked Oneplus 6T from a reputable company via Swappa. I received my phone, and immediately noticed when starting it that it had the T-Mobile splashscreen, and prompted to download 2 T-mobile apps at startup. Now, here is the catch. I'm using Google FI, and Google FI only supports the T-mobile carrier on Oneplus phones, so I can't switch carrier like I normally can on other Google Fi phones (eg my old Nexus 6P). I was under the impression that the phone I would receive would be the one directly from Oneplus (unlocked) and not a T-mobile that the company had unlocked themselves. Only one sim (which is actually fine, and I know you can buy the separate dual sim tray). The main concern is that my updates may come in slower (which is what I've read on the T-mobile vs Unlocked articles).
Is there ANY definite way of telling if the phone is truly unlocked? If I'm using Google Fi (which supports T-mobile anyways), and it's working, does that mean it's carrier unlocked?
I checked out the developer options and saw the OEM Unlocking (Allow the bootloader to be unlocked) is off (not activated).
I would really appreciate any help, because if I need to return this phone, I'd like to do it ASAP.
If I'm not mistaken, you will have more than the issue of replacement of the single tray for a dual one if you want to use multiple SIM cards. First, the stock TMOBILE firmware doesn't support this even with a dual SIM tray. Second is these TMobile branded phones only have one IMEI, so that even if you convert by flashing to the international version you'll still be SOL because of not having the second IMEI for the second SIM.
As for unlocking. Are you talking about carrier unlocked or bootloader unlocked? There are hacks posted here that show how to do both, but once bootloader unlocked you won't be able to take anymore TMobile updates, because data stored in the internal storage partition gets wiped so the updates refuse to execute.
As to carrier unlocked, the easiest way to test is to insert a SIM from another company and see if the phone works. A carrier locked phone won't work on another carrier's SIM.
I hope this helps.
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If I'm not mistaken, you will have more than the issue of replacement of the single tray for a dual one if you want to use multiple SIM cards. First, the stock TMOBILE firmware doesn't support this even with a dual SIM tray. Second is these TMobile branded phones only have one IMEI, so that even if you convert by flashing to the international version you'll still be SOL because of not having the second IMEI for the second SIM.
As for unlocking. Are you talking about carrier unlocked or bootloader unlocked? There are hacks posted here that show how to do both, but once bootloader unlocked you won't be able to take anymore TMobile updates, because data stored in the internal storage partition gets wiped so the updates refuse to execute.
As to carrier unlocked, the easiest way to test is to insert a SIM from another company and see if the phone works. A carrier locked phone won't work on another carrier's SIM.
I hope this helps.
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Converting to the international version will unlock the second sim capability, you just need to buy a dual SIM tray after that.
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Hello everyone!
I just purchased a unlocked Oneplus 6T from a reputable company via Swappa. I received my phone, and immediately noticed when starting it that it had the T-Mobile splashscreen, and prompted to download 2 T-mobile apps at startup. Now, here is the catch. I'm using Google FI, and Google FI only supports the T-mobile carrier on Oneplus phones, so I can't switch carrier like I normally can on other Google Fi phones (eg my old Nexus 6P). I was under the impression that the phone I would receive would be the one directly from Oneplus (unlocked) and not a T-mobile that the company had unlocked themselves. Only one sim (which is actually fine, and I know you can buy the separate dual sim tray). The main concern is that my updates may come in slower (which is what I've read on the T-mobile vs Unlocked articles).
Is there ANY definite way of telling if the phone is truly unlocked? If I'm using Google Fi (which supports T-mobile anyways), and it's working, does that mean it's carrier unlocked?
I checked out the developer options and saw the OEM Unlocking (Allow the bootloader to be unlocked) is off (not activated).
I would really appreciate any help, because if I need to return this phone, I'd like to do it ASAP.
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I would send the phone back and report them on Swappa. Unless the listing stated that it was a T-Mobile phone with SIM unlocked then you got taken advantage of.
I was trading comments with the seller on Swappa, and someone from the actual Swappa team jumped in and gave the dealer a lashing for selling carrier unlocked phones as Factory unlocked, told them it was against the rules and told them to make it right. It was pretty impressive. Still no reply. Sad thing is, the T-mobile version went on sale today brand new with authentic charger/cable/headphone adapter, which I just received some generic charger and cable, all for the same price I paid for a "mint" phone. Had I just waited a week, I could have just unlocked a new phone myself with authentic accessories. The phone that they sent me works fine for what I'm using it as, if they would send me some authentic accessories, I'd probably settle for that. I just hate that I'm being duped, as well as others. They have 53 more "factory unlocked" devices oneplus 6ts on sale now, so if anybody sees this and wants to buy one, I'd beware and know what you are getting into. Seller is pretty big, GM Deals.
If it is not exactly what was advertised, and the seller doesn't fix it promptly, leave negative review and send it back. Swappa and PayPal will find in your favor.
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Now I'm starting to think it's not even carrier unlocked. Got this with Oxygen Updater.
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Yeah, must be T-Mobile version. Return it.
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Swappa backs up their sales. If the person disappears they will likely get banned and swappa will work with you to make it right. Rarely have I had problems on there but the Oneplus devices are a mess on there. Basically the ONLY cue is that the IMEI is branded on the back for the TMO version and isn't for the version directly from OP. When I was shopping for a 7 Pro for a while I noticed a bunch of these mistakes or lack of attention to detail on the seller's part. Not surprised by this.
If you want to keep it, you can easily convert it to International like I have and use it as if it was from Oneplus. I don't use dual SIM though, but the trays are like 3 bucks.
You can go to the unlock app, which is actually in the settings I think and is not actually an app but don't quote me on that and see if it'll unlock for you. If it works, meaning it's paid off and stuff, it should unlock. If you are stuck calling TMO and wasting your time, I would send it back.
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Converting to the international version will unlock the second sim capability, you just need to buy a dual SIM tray after that.
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How can you use the second SIM when the device has only one IMEI? It would be impossible to use both SIMS simultaneously with only one IMEI. Being able to use only one at a time defeats the purpose of having dual SIM capability!
Having a device capable of using 2 SIMs, but only one IMEI, makes it a 2 SIM device, but not a dual SIM. A dual SIM handset is able to register on two networks simultaneously or have multiple numbers and accounts with the same network simultaneously, while a 2 SIM handset can only work on one at a time. There really isn't much of an advantage other than not having to change out SIMs when leaving one carrier's service area.
Hey guys, thanks for all the replies, I've learned a lot from this thread!
Thankfully they asked if I wanted a refund, and I told them yes considering it was not exactly what I paid for. They haven't replied back, but I'm sure they will today with instructions. They only reply once a day, the same time of the day, every time lol.
I already bought another off of swappa from an individual who confirmed it's what I want, provided plenty of pictures, as well all original items and accessories, packaging, and like 5 cases for cheaper than my other purchase. Hopefully that refund comes in next week hahaha.
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I received an Aria a few days ago, and I am wondering about the unlocking options. When I asked for it, I assumed that I could do it fairly easily with an eBay seller.
I tried that and I got the message from blowfish06. The ad said the aria
could be unlocked. Seems bait/switch to me, is it for real? I don't know what most of this really means. I can try paying and get a refund again if it fails again, but the extortion message arrived literally before the normal instructions from him. Sounds like they knew in advance, and just lied in the ad.
Code not available in Instant HTC Manufacturer Database. Can be done through manual request, cost is $22, takes 1-2 weeks to return or Master HTC Database which is $26, 10 min return time.
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I do not have an AT&T account.
I will be traveling, which is why I wanted this one. No more iPhonicus.
I like the HTC software and would like to keep it.
What are my other options?
Do I have to root the phone?
Is there a back channel way to get it from HTC/etc?
Will AT&T give the unlock code w/o account? I can use one of several people's AT&T accounts if that is _required_.
Thanks for any advice
MOD EDIT: Please note that many users have faced issues with codes not working from the below link. Please look at other options or use caution when dealing with the website below.
One of many from google search
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/htc-aria-unlock.html for 15.95USD
You don't need to root the phone. You never connect it to anything and never have to upload any stuff. It works like this:
1. You give the unlocker your phone's IMEI number, which you obtain by "dialing" *#06#
2. Based on IMEI, they generate the unlock code for you.
3. When you insert a non AT&T SIM, the phone will prompt you to enter the unlock code.
4. Wallah!
Ive never done this outside of ATT but I don't think it's too hard to do Io
I tried to use an unlocker (you have to provide the IMEI to do that, so I know whats up) and I got that message, and was curious what other options I have. $26 seemed a bit steep.
I a mostly wondering if ATT will let me unlock it w/o having an account there. Thats the big issue, or if they even can. Others have said that the aria codes aren't available to AT&T yet, so they can't do it. Hoping someone else has actual information about how to proceed.
The response I got from the seller seemed odd, so I thought I would ask. Did anyone read it? Is that normal?
And I won't use anyone other than an ebay seller. Can't trust a random website.
lrdiaz said:
One of many from google search
http://www.htcsimunlock.com/htc-aria-unlock.html for 15.95USD
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CONFIRMING THIS !
Got my phone from amazon.com ( without plan ) $339
First talk to AT&T customer service ...waste of time !
I did it here: http://www.htcsimunlock.com/ for $32 ouch! :
code was emailed in 10-15 min
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CONFIRMED 100% WORKING SIM-UNLOCKED !
I have my order in at HTCSimUnlock.com (confirmation email) since yesterday around 2pm. Haven't gotten a code yet, but I'll give em till later today due to the time diff. Still night time over there.
Billed $15.75, will keep posted on what happens. BOFA fraud dept called on the charge, since SWREg is an EU company and also isn't in their database. They also said it comes in as slightly different company names each time, which trips it up too. I don't know if that is the unlock company or SWReg. I recall having this problem with buying other software through that site, so it probably isn't anything to worry about. I also used a shop-safe card (limited $ card # you create on the website), which tripped it even further.
Very glad to hear you had a good experience. Makes me worry *much* less.
My results last week
My unlocking experience so far...
I bought and Aria from Amazon for $340 about a week and a half ago. Immediately sent the IMEI off to HTCSimUnlock. They responded back with a "code not Available" and promptly refunded my money (Paypal.)
Next I tried another online unlocker that was more expensive and took 3 days. Got the response "that At&T server was not providing codes until December." They to promptly refunded my money. It kinda jives with what I read on a code unlocking blog. (can't post link I'm a New User) Google "unlock htc aria blog"
At the same time I tried Blowfish06 on Ebay. He tried and said it wasn't available and if I wanted to try HTC instant server for $3 more I could. No luck their either. Once again my money was promptly refunded. I wasn't given the option for the 2 week manual code or the expensive $26 code. Maybe those are new methods and the only way to do it.
I would not worry about losing your money. All the guys I tried seemed legit and wanted to do real business.
I'm really bummed because I don't live in the US so AT$T is not an option. I don't think they even have any Android phones here in Mexico.
This was all last week. Maybe it has changed.
I may send my IMEI off to Blowfish again and see if the more expensive options work.
Everyone keep posting your results.
UPDATE: July 22nd
Went back to Ebay. There is new "server" available to the unlockers that has the codes for Aria. Cost $30 Most of the unlockers probably can get it now.
Happily Unlocked!!
Peace
I tried that website as well, they charged me 15.75 and were not able to provide me my code, then I tried Blowfish06 on Ebay and he was also not able to do it.
My Aria is one I got with a contract extention of eBay.
Edit: Both the site and Blowfish06 refunded my money asap.
I got a working code from htcsimunlock.com. It ended up costing $30.74 (15.75+14.99). Here is how it went:
Get their regular HTC unlock code offer, $15.75.
Code can not be found
Go to "View Order (htcsimunlock.com/view_order.php)" screen to see the message. There you can click 'Buy Upgraded Database Search". They say "exclusive etc etc bull****", but it worked.
Pay $14.99 extra
Get working code 10 minutes later
So, overall it worked out just fine. The price for really unlocking this phone, especially the newer ones, seems to be ~30. I bet an ebay seller could have done it as well... one of the $30 ones.
Try the $9.99 blowfish06 one, since that works for some older Arias, apparently, and is cheap. After that, try the htcsimulock one. If they don't find it too, then the upgrade service might work.
I would have gone blowfish06 all the way except that there was no obvious/easy way to do the super-fancy code search on ebay. The only listing was the 9.99 one....
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FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU.... apparently it is sometimes possible to go into a t-mobile store and get them to unlock an AT&T phone. I am with them, so I guess they would do it if they can.... hrm. arg. doh. lame. Well, who knows if they even can for this phone.
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Follow this thread if you want to get data working on the network. Worked fer me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523136
awbacker said:
I got a working code from htcsimunlock.com. It ended up costing $30.74 (15.75+14.99). Here is how it went:
Get their regular HTC unlock code offer, $15.75.
Code can not be found
Go to "View Order (htcsimunlock.com/view_order.php)" screen to see the message. There you can click 'Buy Upgraded Database Search". They say "exclusive etc etc bull****", but it worked.
Pay $14.99 extra
Get working code 10 minutes later
So, overall it worked out just fine. The price for really unlocking this phone, especially the newer ones, seems to be ~30. I bet an ebay seller could have done it as well... one of the $30 ones.
Try the $9.99 blowfish06 one, since that works for some older Arias, apparently, and is cheap. After that, try the htcsimulock one. If they don't find it too, then the upgrade service might work.
I would have gone blowfish06 all the way except that there was no obvious/easy way to do the super-fancy code search on ebay. The only listing was the 9.99 one....
Edit 1)
FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU.... apparently it is sometimes possible to go into a t-mobile store and get them to unlock an AT&T phone. I am with them, so I guess they would do it if they can.... hrm. arg. doh. lame. Well, who knows if they even can for this phone.
Edit 2)
Follow this thread if you want to get data working on the network. Worked fer me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523136
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Where did you buy the phone???
I picked it up on ebay because it was cheaper, from a guy in georgia I think. Came new-in-box. It was a good buy-it-now price with free shipping so I just went with it.
Sick of getting sniped, so I never bother using ebay to *bid* on things anymore.
And no need to quote the whole post Makes things huge!
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I picked it up on ebay because it was cheaper, from a guy in georgia I think. Came new-in-box. It was a good buy-it-now price with free shipping so I just went with it.
Sick of getting sniped, so I never bother using ebay to *bid* on things anymore.
And no need to quote the whole post Makes things huge!
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If I buy it from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Aria-Android-Phone-Only-Service/dp/B003T0OM9S/ref=pd_rhf_p_t_1) is the same? I can unlock it at the same way?
When I got my unlock code they asked which provider i used and I said "ATT". They couldn't find a unlock code. This happened from 2 companys on the net. The third one after trying "ATT" they used "HTC" as the provider and were able to find the code.
oh no...
I got my aria from at&t for $475,and unlock it for $50.
It's too expensive...
Wow. Some pplz paid soo much I paid about 30 to.unlock my aria..I know its too much too but mine is brand new and ATT wouldn't give me code soo I.got. mine unlocked from monsterunlocks dot. Come he gave. Me code over the phone . Anyway its all Good now.
I successfully unlocked my Aria with a code from blowfish06 on Ebay. He responded with a code within 10 min of me purchasing it. I then used a moribund SIM from my trip to Singapore 3 years ago to make it come up with an unlock prompt. No issues.
Did he first refund your $9.95 and ask for $25 to access the "HTC Master something-or-other?" Or is that a new thing?
unlocked aria
i got my aria from amazon. www.unlock-now.com is where i got my unlock code. 2 days. my fone is unlocked and working fine in afghanistan.....
Lock your SIM card?
Hi!
I've seen that some of you had to try multiple times in order to unlock their Aria. I also read that 3 wrong unlocking codes may lock your sim card... has anyone experienced such a thing?
See ya
[tip] best way to get AT&T to give up a micro sim without asking too many questions
yeah, sorry to dedicate a whole post to this, its not such an important thing that it needs a thread of its own, but i think its something pretty important, and itll fall back to the later pages if others dont find it important enough to comment on, so i guess no worries.
if youre coming from pretty much any other phone youll have a normal SIM card. but if youre getting an SGSIII youll need a Micro SIM. now the tricky part is getting AT&T to give it up, without asking too many questions, and trying to get you to change plans (cause nobody wants to give up their $10/month unlimited data for a $30 limited, right?).
heres what worked for me
well speaking from experience, i tossed a few ideas around in my head, till i came up with one i decided to use, and without a hitch, AT&T gave up the microsim for my phone on a Media Net data plan.
1 first off, go into a store in person, dont order over the phone. AT&T call centers have a lot more pull over what goes on than an in store salesman.
AT&T authorized retailers have the least pull of all, since theyre only licensed to sell phones, they dont work for AT&T directly, and are least likely to care about corporate affairs. how can you tell the difference between a corporate store, and an authorized retailer? well authorized retailers normally dont have real display phones, but rather plastic models. however calling the AT&T store and asking them if theyre a corporate store or not will be the best and easiest way to save you a drive.
2 what i did, was explain to them that i bought a sim to micro sim adapter, so that i can more easily travel abroad, and use foreign simcards, because in japan, microsims are the new standard, and that for now i want to use get a micro sim, so i can keep my adapter inside the phone. i brought in a flip phone, and they checked the IMEI number, and gave me a brand new Micro Sim!!
its important to note theyre allowed to charge $30 dollars for a sim replacement, but if youre nice and friendly, theyll usually give it up for free, at least the times ive gone in they have.
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I guess I don't follow.... we're pre-ordered, we'll get a Micro SIM for the phone when it arrives, they're not going to let us walk out without one to use in the phone, right? Furthermore, I think you forgot a step 3, which is to activate it over the phone with Customer Care or in store once the SGSIII arrives
Or you could just have a sim cutter shipped to your door for 5 bucks and not have to go out of your way at all.
The OP's statements were in regards to the international version, not the variants like your preorder.
Man... Sim cutters online are like 3 dollars...
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Man... Sim cutters online are like 3 dollars...
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Man......Sim cards are free @ an AT&T store
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Man......Sim cards are free @ an AT&T store
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I've walked in Att store saying I need one and they Just hand it over to me without any questions.
I've bought a sim cutter now though. As easy as anything.
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I just walked in and said I want a micro sim. She asked to see my phone. She said micro sim won't work in it. I said i have this adapter. She said ok, scanned new sim, and gave it to me. I popped it in and was good to go. Ready for my S3.
Where do u live? Lol I've done this 100 times. They don't charge ****. And u don't have to say all that bs u just say I NEED A MICRO SIM CARD. Lol done. No charge. U have to go to a corporate store that's it
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Yeah, you really don't have to jump through any hoops to get a microSIM card. Just go in and tell them you need one.
Thank you for this information. I plan to do just that to try and get a new micro sim card for my upcoming purchase of a Samsung Note 2. AT&T thinks I am using an old flip phone right now with unlimited data and I sure don't want them ot switch me over to a new plan.
Like some poeple said it may not be necessary to have a 'story' ready but thanks for providing a good one just in case.
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yeah, sorry to dedicate a whole post to this, its not such an important thing that it needs a thread of its own, but i think its something pretty important, and itll fall back to the later pages if others dont find it important enough to comment on, so i guess no worries.
if youre coming from pretty much any other phone youll have a normal SIM card. but if youre getting an SGSIII youll need a Micro SIM. now the tricky part is getting AT&T to give it up, without asking too many questions, and trying to get you to change plans (cause nobody wants to give up their $10/month unlimited data for a $30 limited, right?).
heres what worked for me
well speaking from experience, i tossed a few ideas around in my head, till i came up with one i decided to use, and without a hitch, AT&T gave up the microsim for my phone on a Media Net data plan.
1 first off, go into a store in person, dont order over the phone. AT&T call centers have a lot more pull over what goes on than an in store salesman.
AT&T authorized retailers have the least pull of all, since theyre only licensed to sell phones, they dont work for AT&T directly, and are least likely to care about corporate affairs. how can you tell the difference between a corporate store, and an authorized retailer? well authorized retailers normally dont have real display phones, but rather plastic models. however calling the AT&T store and asking them if theyre a corporate store or not will be the best and easiest way to save you a drive.
2 what i did, was explain to them that i bought a sim to micro sim adapter, so that i can more easily travel abroad, and use foreign simcards, because in japan, microsims are the new standard, and that for now i want to use get a micro sim, so i can keep my adapter inside the phone. i brought in a flip phone, and they checked the IMEI number, and gave me a brand new Micro Sim!!
its important to note theyre allowed to charge $30 dollars for a sim replacement, but if youre nice and friendly, theyll usually give it up for free, at least the times ive gone in they have.
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Hi,
So, I just bought a Galaxy S7 edge from an eBayer. The model is G935F and it's "unlocked". Wasn't till the item shipped that the seller told me the phone is apparently "region locked". In other words, I'm gonna have to get a European SIM, use it for 5 minutes to unlock it. Meaning it's gonna be another $60 or so for something I've already wasted crazy amounts of money on. So, question, has anyone rooted their device and successfully used RegionAway in their new shiny device? If so, let the community know. If anyone else has another suggestion, I'd be greatful. Thanks in advance guys!
Which seller did you buy it from?
Who did you buy it from because I may be in the same boat. I purchased an unlocked edge for 699 and it will be arriving on Friday.
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Who did you buy it from because I may be in the same boat. I purchased an unlocked edge for 699 and it will be arriving on Friday.
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me too! its coming on friday but i want to show you what they responded to me when i asked them.
"Hello this is Michael,
Thank you for your interest in purchasing with us.
The device is brand new, unbranded, factory sealed, and is the International Globally GSM unlocked version which includes all factory OEM accessories.
Yes that's correct that the phone may have been regionally unlocked by authorized Samsung distributors, however there is also a brand new and factory regionally unlocked versions which we are receiving as well, it will be almost impossible to sort though. The phone's regardless should be brand new and fully functioning right out for the box.
Please let me know if there is anything further which I can assist you with!"
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me too! its coming on friday but i want to show you what they responded to me when i asked them.
"Hello this is Michael,
Thank you for your interest in purchasing with us.
The device is brand new, unbranded, factory sealed, and is the International Globally GSM unlocked version which includes all factory OEM accessories.
Yes that's correct that the phone may have been regionally unlocked by authorized Samsung distributors, however there is also a brand new and factory regionally unlocked versions which we are receiving as well, it will be almost impossible to sort though. The phone's regardless should be brand new and fully functioning right out for the box.
Please let me know if there is anything further which I can assist you with!"
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He gave 2 answers!!! Wow.
I hope that I don't have to go through this. I don't want to go through the hassle of unlocking the phone.
I bought mine from 232tech, is this the seller people are having issues with regarding region lock?
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I bought mine from 232tech, is this the seller people are having issues with regarding region lock?
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That's who I purchased mine from as well. I am waiting for a response to my email.
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I bought mine from 232tech, is this the seller people are having issues with regarding region lock?
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Thats who my email was from also...i live in israel and if i need to region unlock it i might go crazy
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gaff15 said:
I bought mine from 232tech, is this the seller people are having issues with regarding region lock?
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1. where do you live?
2. have you had any problems with the region lock?
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Thats who my email was from also...i live in israel and if i need to region unlock it i might go crazy
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1. where do you live?
2. have you had any problems with the region lock?
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Have not received the phone yet. I'm in the US. I'm Returning my locked bootloader t-mobile branded phone for this one. Hope I don't have the region lock issue when I get it later this week.
You don't only need a European SIM, you need to make 5 minutes worth of cumulative calls using a European SIM from a European Network, which means the phone needs to be physically located in Europe when this happens.
You could always try to purchase a NCK online to unlock the device though (if such a service is available)
Anybody here already got their phone from seller '232tech', I am still waiting for them to ship my phone.
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ekaplan362 said:
me too! its coming on friday but i want to show you what they responded to me when i asked them.
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When and which color did you purchase, did you already got a tracking number, is your traking number showing any activities?
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brawlysnake66 said:
Hi,
So, I just bought a Galaxy S7 edge from an eBayer. The model is G935F and it's "unlocked". Wasn't till the item shipped that the seller told me the phone is apparently "region locked". In other words, I'm gonna have to get a European SIM, use it for 5 minutes to unlock it. Meaning it's gonna be another $60 or so for something I've already wasted crazy amounts of money on. So, question, has anyone rooted their device and successfully used RegionAway in their new shiny device? If so, let the community know. If anyone else has another suggestion, I'd be greatful. Thanks in advance guys!
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From whome did you buy, what's the name of this seller?
brawlysnake66 said:
Hi,
So, I just bought a Galaxy S7 edge from an eBayer. The model is G935F and it's "unlocked". Wasn't till the item shipped that the seller told me the phone is apparently "region locked". In other words, I'm gonna have to get a European SIM, use it for 5 minutes to unlock it. Meaning it's gonna be another $60 or so for something I've already wasted crazy amounts of money on. So, question, has anyone rooted their device and successfully used RegionAway in their new shiny device? If so, let the community know. If anyone else has another suggestion, I'd be greatful. Thanks in advance guys!
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It's quite stupid on the seller's part. They should do the 5 minute thing before sending the phone to the buyer. If the phone has all the plastic wrappings perfectly attached all should be fine.
mathieulh said:
You don't only need a European SIM, you need to make 5 minutes worth of cumulative calls using a European SIM from a European Network, which means the phone needs to be physically located in Europe when this happens.
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I don't think you have to make your 5 minute call within the European region. With my S6 I made a roaming call using a UK SIM while I was in Panama and that worked. Of course, I may be wrong and, if so, someone should correct me.
I am thinking of getting an S7 Edge from Handtec in the UK as they offer a (paid) service to make the call before shipping the phone. Unfortunately, they don't have stock yet of the colour (color) I want.
Hey guys,
For those who bought your device from 232tech, I can affirm to you this is region unlocked, according to Michael that is. After a long message explaining a few things, he replied me with this
"Hi this is Michael,
Thanks for following up with me and I apologize for the confusion.
I can confirm that the S7 which you purchased is 100 percent fully carrier and regional unlocked and does not require an unlocking upon delivery, that means that it is 100 percent compatible with Global GSM networks.
I look forward to hearing back from you and thanks for following up with me!"
Nevertheless, they are kind of disorganized with only replying to messages once every day. And they never went ahead to advertise whether or not it's region locked. Do be aware, the warranty will not work in the north. I'm in Canada.
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i bought one from them too, but i think you guy shouldn't worry too much. if you take a look at their recent reviews, lots of people thanking them not complaining. if anything we can always send it back per the device descriptions or not we can alway contact eBay and paypal.
norm2002 said:
I don't think you have to make your 5 minute call within the European region. With my S6 I made a roaming call using a UK SIM while I was in Panama and that worked. Of course, I may be wrong and, if so, someone should correct me.
I am thinking of getting an S7 Edge from Handtec in the UK as they offer a (paid) service to make the call before shipping the phone. Unfortunately, they don't have stock yet of the colour (color) I want.
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i am 99% sure that what @mathieulh said is correct
So here is another email from 232tech in regards to region lock...the jist is you may or may not get a regionally locked 935f...
"Hi this is Michael,
Thanks for reaching out to us and for the purchase I'm glad to further assist you.
Generally our Samsung stock are brand new and unopened, however with the Samsung Global models as you know in recent months, Samsung has regionally locked all Global model phone's so that they are not compatible any US carriers as per all of the information on the web.
We've been in touch with our vendors to possibly receive carrier and regional unlocked phone's and they mentioned that some of the stock is sealed (which is not mentioned on the web) and they've mentioned that they would look into having them import those to us, however at the moment we are not able to see which are factory sealed due to labeling.
I can confirm that if a device is received and label broken, it's been unlocked by authorized Samsung personal.
If for any reason you would like us to cancel and refund the purchase due to this, I could absolutely look into fully refunding you for the purchase. If I'm not able to stop the shipment, I'll send you a prepaid shipping label upon receipt, once received at our facility we'll fully refund you for the purchase.
You may reach me tomorrow if you'd like at 1-646-661-6699 ext 205"
What a mess!
I have a question, does the region lock is only for US carriers? Lets, say I will be using the phone in South America, will the region lock still apply to me?
usa144 said:
I have a question, does the region lock is only for US carriers? Lets, say I will be using the phone in South America, will the region lock still apply to me?
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Yes.
I'm not sure if this has already been posted or not. But I just had a small chat with a Google rep and it's confirmed that both phones (not the Verizon version's) will have unlocked bootloaders. I'll just put it here since the pixel 2 doesn't have it's own forum yet.
Also I'm not sure is any of you are curious about the fast charging. But Google isn't doing us dirty like Apple is doing their folks. The fast charge wall adapter will be included in the box with the phone. So we will not have to buy extra hardware to fast charge our phones.
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Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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I uploaded the original uncompressed screenshots. And she said that only the Verizon version's ain't have the unlocked bootloader.
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So for clarification Verizon's BL will be locked at some point. Maybe out of the gate?
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No, Verizon's BL will not be unlocked.
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
flex360 said:
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
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Both Verizon versions you will be unable to unlock the bootloaders... So bootloaders permanently locked with any Verizon version....
If its like last time there was a SKU for the unlocked Playstore version and a different SKU for the Verizon sim card version.
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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What I said was actually more constructive and accurate than your OP. You were wrong and I corrected you. Plain and simple. And I don't know what you were trying to say.
The phone coming with an unlocked bootloader and having an unlockable bootloader are two different things. Don't get offended when someone corrects you, this is not grade school.
Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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That didn't work on the Pixel 1 so no reason to think it will here. There is only one way to unlock the bl if you want. Buy the Google version.
Damn, So I ordered the Verizon versions, launch day.
If I'd have ordered the unlocked version, any issues with it working on Verizon?
Thinking about calling them and switching..
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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Interesting.. someone else shared a chat with google saying that you could not unlock the verzion version bootloader from the playstore...hmm.. well i guess there is a 10 day return policy.. we will find out once these phones begin shipping
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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The customer service representative was likely correct, but they only know what they are told.
99% of them have never even considered unlocking the bootloader, or even really know what that means.
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21 Oct 2017
Verizon model direct from Google cannot be bootloader unlocked.
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74271638&postcount=86
-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That's an excellent question. I mean, does it make sense that they would sell the "Verizon" version with Verizon bloat on it and not have Verizon's deal with their encrypted bootloader? On the other hand, maybe Google wants as many people to but through them directly and if they do then the bonus is the unlockable bootloader. So many questions. To be honest, I would try to get it changed to the carrier free version with no Verizon ties. That's just my opinion.
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-Michael_ said:
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That is a very good question, but I do believe they are telling the truth. Google didn't sell the Verizon version last time around afaik, so this is new. I would think the only difference is the sim and programs installed. I'm not sure but certainly curious to know. I'm also not sure why they are doing this. Why would you buy a VZW model from Google in the first place? Why not go directly to Verizon? Maybe they are trying to be sure distribution isn't messed up like last time. If Verizon sells out you can get it from us, finance it through us, return it to us if it messes up.
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like is there restrictions if i buy from tmobile? someone help explain please
T-Mobile:
* SIM Locked to T-Mobile
* Cannot set "Allow OEM Unlock" until SIM unlocked
* Need a token from OnePlus to OEM unlock every time
* Single SIM slot
* T-Mobile boot screen
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
OEM Direct:
* SIM unlocked
* Can OEM unlock without a token
* Dual SIM slots
* OnePlus boot screen
* All updates come as OnePlus releases them, no approval from anyone else needed
dl200010 said:
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
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yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
Ovicron said:
yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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tengtengvn said:
For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
bradhoschar said:
Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Interesting. I was reading that there is only one IEMI number for both slots. I have not tried this because I do not need it.
tengtengvn said:
Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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T-Mobile is amazing in that aspect, but it also depends on the rep involved. I also think the account the phone was activated on might have a play in it too. Like an account just created probably would not get it, but an account that is 5+ or even 10+ years old would get it quick.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
OhioYJ said:
It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
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Have you seen anything from tmo, att or vzw that they won't register the same IMEI with different SIM cards on their networks? I did my own testing here:
tmo & vzw: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78225682&postcount=142
tmo and tmo: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78295400&postcount=184
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