I'm not sure if this has already been posted or not. But I just had a small chat with a Google rep and it's confirmed that both phones (not the Verizon version's) will have unlocked bootloaders. I'll just put it here since the pixel 2 doesn't have it's own forum yet.
Also I'm not sure is any of you are curious about the fast charging. But Google isn't doing us dirty like Apple is doing their folks. The fast charge wall adapter will be included in the box with the phone. So we will not have to buy extra hardware to fast charge our phones.
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Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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stinger4321 said:
Cant read the convo.. seems compressed or thumbnail.. so your thinking the google store versions are all bootloader unlockable?.. i wouldnt buy the verizon version not sure why you would cause if you already have a verizon sim your good to go. And future updates could make the Verizon version unlockable like the orig verizon pixel
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I uploaded the original uncompressed screenshots. And she said that only the Verizon version's ain't have the unlocked bootloader.
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So for clarification Verizon's BL will be locked at some point. Maybe out of the gate?
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No, Verizon's BL will not be unlocked.
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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Wow.. read the convo.. DON'T GET THE VERIZON MODEL
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
flex360 said:
Also, the bootloader will be locked
You have to unlock it manually
So you're kinda wrong. The pixel 2 xl will have unlockable bootloader. It won't come unlocked
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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You mean don't buy from Verizon or don't pick the Verizon model from Google store?
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Both Verizon versions you will be unable to unlock the bootloaders... So bootloaders permanently locked with any Verizon version....
If its like last time there was a SKU for the unlocked Playstore version and a different SKU for the Verizon sim card version.
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Bro, do you really have ANYTHING constructive to say? Both posts on here are condescending. You know exactly what I was saying in this thread. You gotta be that one up guy? Go be a smart ass somewhere else bro. People like your are toxic. Go take your attitude and you're condescending news comments elsewhere.
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What I said was actually more constructive and accurate than your OP. You were wrong and I corrected you. Plain and simple. And I don't know what you were trying to say.
The phone coming with an unlocked bootloader and having an unlockable bootloader are two different things. Don't get offended when someone corrects you, this is not grade school.
Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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Well perhaps people with verizon pixel 2 can try to turn on first time without verizon sim and maybe the unlock button is not greyed out.
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That didn't work on the Pixel 1 so no reason to think it will here. There is only one way to unlock the bl if you want. Buy the Google version.
Damn, So I ordered the Verizon versions, launch day.
If I'd have ordered the unlocked version, any issues with it working on Verizon?
Thinking about calling them and switching..
I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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Interesting.. someone else shared a chat with google saying that you could not unlock the verzion version bootloader from the playstore...hmm.. well i guess there is a 10 day return policy.. we will find out once these phones begin shipping
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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The customer service representative was likely correct, but they only know what they are told.
99% of them have never even considered unlocking the bootloader, or even really know what that means.
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21 Oct 2017
Verizon model direct from Google cannot be bootloader unlocked.
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74271638&postcount=86
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
Called twice, same response..
Told them I accidently ordered the Verizon sim version, and that I was a t-mobile customer. And that I needed an unlocked version for development purposes.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That's an excellent question. I mean, does it make sense that they would sell the "Verizon" version with Verizon bloat on it and not have Verizon's deal with their encrypted bootloader? On the other hand, maybe Google wants as many people to but through them directly and if they do then the bonus is the unlockable bootloader. So many questions. To be honest, I would try to get it changed to the carrier free version with no Verizon ties. That's just my opinion.
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I called Google, to change my pixel orders to the pay store unlocked version.
Was told that the Verizon version they sell is only with a Verizon sim, and some Verizon apps, but with an unlockable bootloader. Varying from the version you'd buy directly from Verizon that has a locked BL. And assured "only pixels sold from Verizon directly" will have encrypted bootloader.
What are the chances I was fed a line of BS? Never dealt directly with Google.
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That is a very good question, but I do believe they are telling the truth. Google didn't sell the Verizon version last time around afaik, so this is new. I would think the only difference is the sim and programs installed. I'm not sure but certainly curious to know. I'm also not sure why they are doing this. Why would you buy a VZW model from Google in the first place? Why not go directly to Verizon? Maybe they are trying to be sure distribution isn't messed up like last time. If Verizon sells out you can get it from us, finance it through us, return it to us if it messes up.
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Moto x sale, June 4-5 $100 off. Developer editions too!!!
http://www.motorola.com/us/home
Got mine already!!
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In top of that, I got me a Motorola Admiral off of eBay for $18 and i will be getting a $100 visa gift card from the Motorola tradeup program.
https://www.mototradeup.com/
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I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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That's SICK! I just bought Lumia 630 yesterday.
Maybe I should have bought Moto X.
Can't you refuse the package or return it and take advantage of this deal?
You still have time to get a Motorola Admiral from eBay. The moto trade up program is still going until the end of June, so you can buy and then send the admiral to Motorola.
Just make sure that you sign up at https://www.mototradeup.com/ before buying the x.
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I didn't get a skip with my developer edition... Was I supposed to?
Yep, it got added automatically. I added the headphones manually.
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Does that mean a X2 phone is coming? Or are they just clearing stock? it is probably the 64Gb...
damn. i was going to buy this week. timing can't be better... now i just need to know if Walnut with white front looks good or not! it doesn't Also when you select the wooden backs, price goes up back to $425
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[/COLOR]i already asked in another thread about frequencies... but i'm confused. I only have one option for buying on this site "no contract" means i will get which model exactly?
Also, does this mean i can get a phone for $239 if i use the .edu promotion?!
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just remembered why i don't have a motoX yet... i need the microSD slot...
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i already asked in another thread about frequencies... but i'm confused. I only have one option for buying on this site "no contract" means i will get which model exactly?
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You can buy a No Contract phone branded for ATT, Sprint, Verizon and Replubic Wireless. You select as you add it to your cart. The phone will support all frequencies for the carrier you pick. Or you could look at the Developer Editions.
The other option is the "GSM Unlocked (ships with T-Mobile SIM)" which is the same "insides" as the GSM Developer Edition. It supports the following bands...
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA: 850/900/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B4/B2/B1)
LTE: 700/AWS/1900MHz (B17/B4/B2)
If you have T-Mobile, the HSPA on AWS is important to get H/H+ in areas T-Mobile hasn't yet refarmed their 1900Mhz spectrum. No other X supports H/H+ on AWS that T-mobile uses.
The GSM Unlocked and Dev Edition will work with ATT's GSM/EDGE/GPRS/HSPA and LTE networks as it supports the necessary bands. There are two extra LTE bands the ATT branded X supports, however they were originally only used outside the USA. Reports are that ATT might start using one of them in the USA, but as of yet you wont notice it with the GSM Unlocked or GSM Dev Edition phones on ATT.
The Developer Edition for Verizon supports the all of the exact same bands as the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon.
If you are going "non-contract" check the prices. If the Moto Maker and the Developer Edition are the same price, consider the Dev Edition if you want root, as unlocking the bootloader on the Moto Maker and Retail versions voids the warranty, where was unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition doesn't. Only difference would be the appearance. You can't customize the look of the Dev Edition, it comes as black face, woven white back, silver accents (buttons and ring around camera). NOTE: Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes for the Retail/Moto maker versions of the X for Verizon and ATT. They do give it out for the Dev Edition for Verizon (again without voiding warranty. There has been a 3rd party Chinese website/middleman who has been up and down as of late. If you want to root and disable write protection on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 you need an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't like the look of the Dev Edition, consider a case which covers the back, or something like a DBRAND skin. (I have no affiliation with dbrand, just saw it suggested by others on the forum here, so its worth a shot). And I've seen replacement backs on ebay and around the web, however it could void the warranty.
jidcman said:
I even added the headphones that were part of the promotion a few days ago and it took it! Win win
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Can you confirm which code you used? I tried AFFMTX and it didn't work.
No code, I just added then to my cart and when I checked my cart they were free, hope it works for you too.
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If you don't like the look of the Dev Edition, consider a case which covers the back, or something like a DBRAND skin. (I have no affiliation with dbrand, just saw it suggested by others on the forum here, so its worth a shot). And I've seen replacement backs on ebay and around the web, however it could void the warranty.
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Or, if you're comfortable taking the phone apart, you can buy pretty much any back cover color you'd like off of eBay. That's probably the route that I'll go, since I plan on adding Qi wireless charging anyway.
Also, anyone know why a VZW Motomaker Moto X shows up with a $100 discount in the cart but the VZW Dev Edition does not? I believe the Dev Edition is coming in at the proper $100 off price ($349); however, the inconsistency in displaying the discount is probably not in Moro's best interest.
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How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
damn that site to hell. every thing you do the damn price change. if i try to buy the gsm unlocked (like i will be covered by warranty on the dev edition anyway ha) it shows a different price for every operator.
unlocked with tmobile says "starting at $449.99" the only one not that price is $399.99 for the republic one.
but i can't click any option. think it will be the dev edition anyway... unless i can't combine the student discount (which, surprise, the site says is invalid for the dev... but may it just haven't synced... ) if i can't combine the .edu discount i will wait to see what they are offloading the phones for.
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How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
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You're doing it on the Motorola web site, right?
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damn that site to hell. every thing you do the damn price change. if i try to buy the gsm unlocked (like i will be covered by warranty on the dev edition anyway ha) it shows a different price for every operator.
unlocked with tmobile says "starting at $449.99" the only one not that price is $399.99 for the republic one.
but i can't click any option. think it will be the dev edition anyway... unless i can't combine the student discount (which, surprise, the site says is invalid for the dev... but may it just haven't synced... ) if i can't combine the .edu discount i will wait to see what they are offloading the phones for.
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The Republic Wireless version is always $50 cheaper than the others.
If you want the Developer Edition, start here -> http://www.motorola.com/us/Moto-X/ways-to-buy.html#MotoX-pdp8-story-ways-to-buy-dev
If you started here -> http://www.motorola.com/us/home and you're getting the GSM Unlocked, it is NOT the dev edition, and unlocking its bootloader will void the warranty, where as Unlocking the bootloader on the Dev Edition will not.
Keep in mind, that the final price, after discount should be $349.99 (Republic might be less). I've seen where Moto's site breaks out the $100 discount on some models, and others it just shows the lower price.
I do not know if the $100 off can be combined with any other offers or .EDU discount.
dukeoid said:
How did you use the trade up program? When I looked at it only shows in stores and a verizon gift card,
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You select the "other carriers" Moto X that you upgraded to. I did that (I'm a Verizon user) and got the $100 VISA card from Motorola.
See it now. Thanks
jidcman said:
Moto x sale, June 4-5 $100 off. Developer editions too!!!
http://www.motorola.com/us/home
Got mine already!!
In top of that, I got me a Motorola Admiral off of eBay for $18 and i will be getting a $100 visa gift card from the Motorola tradeup program.
https://www.mototradeup.com/
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how did you get the headphones too? Not working for me
Argh, and I just bought a Moto X off eBay last week!
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Argh, and I just bought a Moto X off eBay last week!
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sell the "ebay" one on swappa or ebay, and buy a NEW Dev Edition especially since you can unlock is bootloader and root.. plus the new one would have warranty.. where as the "ebay" one wont (warranty book says its non-transferable).
Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Bummer, I'm not sure why VZW obsesses so much over unlocked BL's but they do. Too bad, I might go back to TMo.
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Because people with unlimited-no-tethering-allowed data plans unlock, then root, then suck down a bazillion bytes of tethered data.
I'm one of them, so no judgment happening here.
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Just as we suspected Verizon locked us down from unlocking it. Hopefully there will be decent support for this phone and we can get it unlocked in the future. Honestly just root would be fine for me since it's 99% AOSP as it is. Here's the screenshot of me trying to unlock it after the phone just released today at Verizon:
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
They mean SIM unlocked, as you can use the phone on other GSM providers.
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Question: did you buy out from Verizon? I bought mine from Moto maker just curious if that one would be unlocked. It did say unlocked phone when I purchased it. But time will tell once I get it from Moto
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That sucks , I still have my unlimited data that's why I still stuck with Verizon
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If I wasn't already grandfathered into unlimited data on Verizon I would probably switch to T-Mobil. Verizon is way too restrictive with everything they do.
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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Yeah same here. I was on straight talk att for a while but my vzw line was still active and I just missed all of that data way too much and used my unlimited vzw again. I bought the moto x outright, but only because there weren't any lines that had upgrades. (We have 5 lines )
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Sims are free. What's the big deal?
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I think you loose your unlimited data if you do the upgrade anyway. Last time my family member used his upgrade to buy an M7 they put him on 2 Gig data plan because "They don't sell unlimited data anymore". Personally I've bought every phone since my first gen Droid X off of Craigslist instead of going through Verizon again cuz of their BS. I've cut my mini sim down to a micro sim, and when my Moto X comes I'm going to have to cut it down again to a nano sim. Bastards :[email protected] If that doesn't work and I have to go through Verizon again for a new sim (or for anything) I'm just going to switch to T-Mobil.
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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Not if you just upgrade some other line and then just put your sim in the new phone lol
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That's exactly what I do. 3 Lines on my plan, 2 unlimited, 1 is for my mom. She's on the 2 gig plan so since i pay the bill,I take the upgrade. Gonna beat this horse till it rots.
Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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There's a thread in Q&A about root. Last post says user contacted jcase and answer is "won't work on new X, not at this time".
If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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If anyone cared, Towelroot doesn't work either. Probably because of the write protection.
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Also because it only worked on kernels with a release date of June or earlier on 4.4.2. I think June 6th to be more specific. It was patched very shortly after that.
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Anyone tried sunshine? I know it's a long shot but still curious nonetheless.
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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I tried it when I got my phone today. No go it can't find root yet..
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. It's temproot feature can overcome that on some other 4.4.4 builds it seems but not the latest X builds. I tried it on my og retail X when jcase and beaups updated it recently, no go of course. I think Sunshine will be our best bet. I think the challenge is what motivates those guys the most but with sunshine, they're able to get some kind of monetary compensation, even if it's not much and I'm sure goes right back into projects for users... Which I'm more than happy to pay for a service that gives complete control of my device to me. Although another dev edition would have been nice. An unlocked bootloader AND a warranty was a combination you don't see on VZW.
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Yea you don't see that. Lol..I'm hoping the get it unlocked cause 25 its well worth it to me. Well worth it
If the Moto X gets Root only I am willing to switch from my HTC One M8, an unlocked bootloader would be even better though.
I asked the rep my replacement would still have the KitKat OS on it. Crossing my fingers it will so I can get root back. Anyone else get a warranty replacement since the lollipop update?
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I just received my warranty replacement today and it had KitKat 4.4.4 on it. Still have the same WiFi issues though so I think I am going to try to ditch the Turbo and go with something else.
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I just received my warranty replacement today and it had KitKat 4.4.4 on it. Still have the same WiFi issues though so I think I am going to try to ditch the Turbo and go with something else.
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That's fine with me, I have unlimited data and a strong 4g connection where I live. I just want root and lollipop back. I'm hoping mine will come with KitKat too
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Entry Wounds said:
I just received my warranty replacement today and it had KitKat 4.4.4 on it. Still have the same WiFi issues though so I think I am going to try to ditch the Turbo and go with something else.
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what wifi issues?
What problems did you tell Verizon the phone had to get the replacement? Just wondering
Entry Wounds said:
I just received my warranty replacement today and it had KitKat 4.4.4 on it. Still have the same WiFi issues though so I think I am going to try to ditch the Turbo and go with something else.
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upgrade to a rooted lolipop and turn off wifi battery saving. Lolipop fixed all wifi issues for me including the inability to connect to my companies cisco router which was for some reason present on kitkat for the droid turbo.
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What problems did you tell Verizon the phone had to get the replacement? Just wondering
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I just called for a warranty replacement also, I told them that aside from battery issues my phone was getting stuck on lock screen images. Specifically when a music player would change the lock screen to an album cover or similar 1/20 unlocks would make my phone stay on that image except if I pulled down the settings menu and then opened the more detailed settings icon. The first person I talked to said I should just deal with it until they updated it, I said that was unacceptable and they forwarded me to tech support who were more helpful. They said that they've been getting a bunch of complaints about Lollipop and weren't surprised, they just asked if I had wiped my phone to see if problems persisted.
My replacement is on it's way, fingers crossed it's 4.4.4
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What problems did you tell Verizon the phone had to get the replacement? Just wondering
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Well I had told them by phone was freezing a lot more with pandora and my WiFi signal kept cutting in and out. I would continually lose service. I told them I had already down a factory reset as well before they had a chance to tell me to do it because I instantly knew that would. I did it via web chat. The guy was really cool about it and gave me no trouble with sending out another warranty replacement. Can't wait for root and lollipop back.
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Verizon has also found a way to put their logo on the ballistic nylon. My original phone that was purchased in December did not have this but both of my warranty replacement have had it. It peels off with a lot of effort but a PITA no less.
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siegesoldier said:
upgrade to a rooted lolipop and turn off wifi battery saving. Lolipop fixed all wifi issues for me including the inability to connect to my companies cisco router which was for some reason present on kitkat for the droid turbo.
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I eventually figured out my issue was with IPv6 and apps that are not able to function with the it on the Droid Turbo only. All of the other mobile devices in my house using the same apps function properly with an IPv6 address. After turning it off in my router everything works fine for the Turbo. It was a nightmare to get it narrowed down to that but eventually got it all figured out. Not sure why the Turbo cannot function with it but every other mobile device in my house can.
Just placed the order for my replacement device today as well and am hoping that it also is a KK device. I will post back up here when I receive it tomorrow.
Replacement Turbo
TheHolyCobra said:
Just placed the order for my replacement device today as well and am hoping that it also is a KK device. I will post back up here when I receive it tomorrow.
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Please let me know when you guys get your replacements and how you went about rooting them before upgrading since I don't want to screw this up!!
A couple of nights ago, my wife dropped my mofo rooted 32gb turbo and the screen cracked so I used the screen replacement warranty and ordered it yesterday through the verizon customer service 800 number. They overnighted me a refurbished 32gb which I just booted up for the first time, and it has 4.4.4 on it. I feel very fortunate though there is no way to tell how long these non-updated turbos will be around.
Got my device on Wednesday and it was in fact 4.4.4
I was told by the rep on the phone that if the device was not in fact 4.4.4 that I could send it back immediately, and then maybe get a KitKat device sent from Motorola. Don't know how true that is because I didn't need to investigate any further, but they said it's an option.
Just letting everyone know my warranty replacement came in with KitKat. Got myself a nice rooted lollipop turbo now. Feels good.
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Replacement on its way. Be here tomorrow.
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graymonkey44 said:
Just letting everyone know my warranty replacement came in with KitKat. Got myself a nice rooted lollipop turbo now. Feels good.
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Any update when we can expect write permission in rooted lollipop with turbo
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siberian85 said:
Any update when we can expect write permission in rooted lollipop with turbo
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You are in Zambia? Carriers there use LTE bands 3 and 7, according to Wikipedia.
In other countries, instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo a lot of people should have bought the XT1225 Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx. Here's the difference...
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The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 plus GSM/HSPA. And has unlock-able bootloader, root, TWRP custom recovery. I'm running Android 5.1.1 (CM12.1) on both my XT1225. An AOSP custom ROM is also available.
If you are not a Verizon customer, the only reason you NEED the XT1254 is if your carrier uses LTE band 13 -- or if you need CDMA. In all other ways, the XT1225 is SUPERIOR, especially for development.
The irony is the "international" Quark XT1225 is the perfect AT&T (U.S. carrier) phone. AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
Earlier this month, I spent two weeks in Brazil with my wife and our unlocked Quarks worked just fine there, as Brazil is one of the countries where the XT1225 is sold. Major Brazil carriers use LTE bands 3 and 7, just like in Zambia.
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Please let me know when you guys get your replacements and how you went about rooting them before upgrading since I don't want to screw this up!!
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Well the good news is that I just got my replacement and it is 4.4.4, but the phone came completely dead; 0% battery life! It wouldn't even turn on without connecting it to the charger for a while!
Should I be concerned about the battery; did anyone else receive a replacement in the same state?
I don't think the battery should have gone 100% dead just sitting and don't want to waste the time and money rooting if it is going to be a problem???
Replacement arrived. 4.4.4 thank God. What do I need to disable to stop the update notice. I plan to try my first root and don't want the Ota.
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You are in Zambia? Carriers there use LTE bands 3 and 7, according to Wikipedia.
In other countries, instead of the XT1254 Droid Turbo a lot of people should have bought the XT1225 Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx. Here's the difference...
U.S. QUARKS
"INTERNATIONAL" QUARKS
The XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 plus GSM/HSPA. And has unlock-able bootloader, root, TWRP custom recovery.
If you are not a Verizon customer, the only reason you NEED the XT1254 is if your carrier uses LTE band 13 -- or if you need CDMA. In all other ways, the XT1225 is SUPERIOR, especially for development.
The irony is the "international" Quark XT1225 is the perfect AT&T (U.S. carrier) phone. AT&T uses LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 17.
Earlier this month, I spent two weeks in Brazil with my wife and our unlocked Quarks worked just fine there, as Brazil is one of the countries where the XT1225 is sold. Major Brazil carriers use LTE bands 3 and 7, just like in Zambia.
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Sorry for confusion but currently my location is in EU, only reason why I got Verison version it is because I got it for $ 299 and in blue, Just realized that moto maxx would be much better choice for me now
like is there restrictions if i buy from tmobile? someone help explain please
T-Mobile:
* SIM Locked to T-Mobile
* Cannot set "Allow OEM Unlock" until SIM unlocked
* Need a token from OnePlus to OEM unlock every time
* Single SIM slot
* T-Mobile boot screen
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
OEM Direct:
* SIM unlocked
* Can OEM unlock without a token
* Dual SIM slots
* OnePlus boot screen
* All updates come as OnePlus releases them, no approval from anyone else needed
dl200010 said:
* All updates need to be approved by T-Mobile
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yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
Ovicron said:
yeaaa.. im gonna go unlocked just cause of that.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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I went with directly from OnePlus because of that. I did not want delayed updates. I also did not want to have to get T-Mobile's and OnePlus' permission to unlock the bootloader. If they did not put those limits on them, then I would have just gone with the T-Mobile one.
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For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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For the retail price then yes. I got the t-mobile variant because of the $300 launch discount. Since the t-mobile variant now can flash OOS from 1+ and can be converted to dual sim without much effort, it's a good option when t-mobile offers a discount.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Yes, I know it can be converted to the unlocked version, but still requires SIM unlock and getting the token to boot loader unlock. Which would require you to pay the full price to T-Mobile anyways. The launch discount is meaningless when you think about those two things. I do know that it is possible to get the SIM unlock and not have to pay the full price up front, but that all depends on the customer rep you get. Also, you trade being dependent on T-Mobile to update to being dependent on people on XDA to create the fastboot flash-able from the update. There is also the possibility that OnePlus might change it so that you cannot get the unlocked version of OOS on your phone. Even though it is unlikely that OnePlus would do such a thing it is still possible. Because of all that the unlocked version is a better choice.
The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
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Not really. I am one of the success stories that asked T-Mo on Twitter nicely after having the phone only 8 days to Perm unlock me without the phone being payed off. On Int'l ROM 9.0.7 now, AND have a $12/month credit to my bill.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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The dual SIM part is useless to me, but how can you convert a phone with only one SIM slot to dual SIM? That would require a hardware change.
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T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Yes, like I said. All depends on the rep you get. I have heard stories where the person gets the unlock, and I have heard stories where the person does not. I just stick with the unlock so I do not have to worry or hack around for updates, which is what converting over to the non-T-Mobile OOS ROM truly is. OnePlus never meant for it to happen that way, but on the other hand did nothing to prevent it.
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Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
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T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Interesting. I was reading that there is only one IEMI number for both slots. I have not tried this because I do not need it.
tengtengvn said:
Mainstream US phone market is huge and to get to it, most manufacturers have to go through the carriers. Just glad t-mobile is carrying OnePlus because unlock request is easy enough if you try. People love discounts on phones and don't seem to care about bill credits.
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T-Mobile is amazing in that aspect, but it also depends on the rep involved. I also think the account the phone was activated on might have a play in it too. Like an account just created probably would not get it, but an account that is 5+ or even 10+ years old would get it quick.
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I thought the TMobile one still had the same IMEI on both slots even when flashed, so it would only use one SIM at a time, so both would work, but with that limitation.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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erik29gamer said:
T-Mobile version is dual sim, just comes with a single sim tray. Cut the original one up, or buy a replacement one and both slots work just fine.
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Wrong. Both sims from the same carrier work fine. Unless you have tested it, don't make the assumption from thin air.
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It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
OhioYJ said:
It was a simple question. Several people in the Tmobile to International thread posted up pictures showing the same IMEI for both SIMs. So you saying this is not true?
This page for example.
Or this post for example.
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Have you seen anything from tmo, att or vzw that they won't register the same IMEI with different SIM cards on their networks? I did my own testing here:
tmo & vzw: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78225682&postcount=142
tmo and tmo: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78295400&postcount=184
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Hello everyone!
I just purchased a unlocked Oneplus 6T from a reputable company via Swappa. I received my phone, and immediately noticed when starting it that it had the T-Mobile splashscreen, and prompted to download 2 T-mobile apps at startup. Now, here is the catch. I'm using Google FI, and Google FI only supports the T-mobile carrier on Oneplus phones, so I can't switch carrier like I normally can on other Google Fi phones (eg my old Nexus 6P). I was under the impression that the phone I would receive would be the one directly from Oneplus (unlocked) and not a T-mobile that the company had unlocked themselves. Only one sim (which is actually fine, and I know you can buy the separate dual sim tray). The main concern is that my updates may come in slower (which is what I've read on the T-mobile vs Unlocked articles).
Is there ANY definite way of telling if the phone is truly unlocked? If I'm using Google Fi (which supports T-mobile anyways), and it's working, does that mean it's carrier unlocked?
I checked out the developer options and saw the OEM Unlocking (Allow the bootloader to be unlocked) is off (not activated).
I would really appreciate any help, because if I need to return this phone, I'd like to do it ASAP.
If I'm not mistaken, you will have more than the issue of replacement of the single tray for a dual one if you want to use multiple SIM cards. First, the stock TMOBILE firmware doesn't support this even with a dual SIM tray. Second is these TMobile branded phones only have one IMEI, so that even if you convert by flashing to the international version you'll still be SOL because of not having the second IMEI for the second SIM.
As for unlocking. Are you talking about carrier unlocked or bootloader unlocked? There are hacks posted here that show how to do both, but once bootloader unlocked you won't be able to take anymore TMobile updates, because data stored in the internal storage partition gets wiped so the updates refuse to execute.
As to carrier unlocked, the easiest way to test is to insert a SIM from another company and see if the phone works. A carrier locked phone won't work on another carrier's SIM.
I hope this helps.
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If I'm not mistaken, you will have more than the issue of replacement of the single tray for a dual one if you want to use multiple SIM cards. First, the stock TMOBILE firmware doesn't support this even with a dual SIM tray. Second is these TMobile branded phones only have one IMEI, so that even if you convert by flashing to the international version you'll still be SOL because of not having the second IMEI for the second SIM.
As for unlocking. Are you talking about carrier unlocked or bootloader unlocked? There are hacks posted here that show how to do both, but once bootloader unlocked you won't be able to take anymore TMobile updates, because data stored in the internal storage partition gets wiped so the updates refuse to execute.
As to carrier unlocked, the easiest way to test is to insert a SIM from another company and see if the phone works. A carrier locked phone won't work on another carrier's SIM.
I hope this helps.
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Converting to the international version will unlock the second sim capability, you just need to buy a dual SIM tray after that.
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Roncore said:
Hello everyone!
I just purchased a unlocked Oneplus 6T from a reputable company via Swappa. I received my phone, and immediately noticed when starting it that it had the T-Mobile splashscreen, and prompted to download 2 T-mobile apps at startup. Now, here is the catch. I'm using Google FI, and Google FI only supports the T-mobile carrier on Oneplus phones, so I can't switch carrier like I normally can on other Google Fi phones (eg my old Nexus 6P). I was under the impression that the phone I would receive would be the one directly from Oneplus (unlocked) and not a T-mobile that the company had unlocked themselves. Only one sim (which is actually fine, and I know you can buy the separate dual sim tray). The main concern is that my updates may come in slower (which is what I've read on the T-mobile vs Unlocked articles).
Is there ANY definite way of telling if the phone is truly unlocked? If I'm using Google Fi (which supports T-mobile anyways), and it's working, does that mean it's carrier unlocked?
I checked out the developer options and saw the OEM Unlocking (Allow the bootloader to be unlocked) is off (not activated).
I would really appreciate any help, because if I need to return this phone, I'd like to do it ASAP.
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I would send the phone back and report them on Swappa. Unless the listing stated that it was a T-Mobile phone with SIM unlocked then you got taken advantage of.
I was trading comments with the seller on Swappa, and someone from the actual Swappa team jumped in and gave the dealer a lashing for selling carrier unlocked phones as Factory unlocked, told them it was against the rules and told them to make it right. It was pretty impressive. Still no reply. Sad thing is, the T-mobile version went on sale today brand new with authentic charger/cable/headphone adapter, which I just received some generic charger and cable, all for the same price I paid for a "mint" phone. Had I just waited a week, I could have just unlocked a new phone myself with authentic accessories. The phone that they sent me works fine for what I'm using it as, if they would send me some authentic accessories, I'd probably settle for that. I just hate that I'm being duped, as well as others. They have 53 more "factory unlocked" devices oneplus 6ts on sale now, so if anybody sees this and wants to buy one, I'd beware and know what you are getting into. Seller is pretty big, GM Deals.
If it is not exactly what was advertised, and the seller doesn't fix it promptly, leave negative review and send it back. Swappa and PayPal will find in your favor.
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Now I'm starting to think it's not even carrier unlocked. Got this with Oxygen Updater.
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Yeah, must be T-Mobile version. Return it.
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Swappa backs up their sales. If the person disappears they will likely get banned and swappa will work with you to make it right. Rarely have I had problems on there but the Oneplus devices are a mess on there. Basically the ONLY cue is that the IMEI is branded on the back for the TMO version and isn't for the version directly from OP. When I was shopping for a 7 Pro for a while I noticed a bunch of these mistakes or lack of attention to detail on the seller's part. Not surprised by this.
If you want to keep it, you can easily convert it to International like I have and use it as if it was from Oneplus. I don't use dual SIM though, but the trays are like 3 bucks.
You can go to the unlock app, which is actually in the settings I think and is not actually an app but don't quote me on that and see if it'll unlock for you. If it works, meaning it's paid off and stuff, it should unlock. If you are stuck calling TMO and wasting your time, I would send it back.
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Converting to the international version will unlock the second sim capability, you just need to buy a dual SIM tray after that.
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How can you use the second SIM when the device has only one IMEI? It would be impossible to use both SIMS simultaneously with only one IMEI. Being able to use only one at a time defeats the purpose of having dual SIM capability!
Having a device capable of using 2 SIMs, but only one IMEI, makes it a 2 SIM device, but not a dual SIM. A dual SIM handset is able to register on two networks simultaneously or have multiple numbers and accounts with the same network simultaneously, while a 2 SIM handset can only work on one at a time. There really isn't much of an advantage other than not having to change out SIMs when leaving one carrier's service area.
Hey guys, thanks for all the replies, I've learned a lot from this thread!
Thankfully they asked if I wanted a refund, and I told them yes considering it was not exactly what I paid for. They haven't replied back, but I'm sure they will today with instructions. They only reply once a day, the same time of the day, every time lol.
I already bought another off of swappa from an individual who confirmed it's what I want, provided plenty of pictures, as well all original items and accessories, packaging, and like 5 cases for cheaper than my other purchase. Hopefully that refund comes in next week hahaha.