T510 Slow Wifi? - Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers

I just picked up a Samsung Tab A and noticed it only gets ~200 - 250 Mbps down when the rest of my devices are getting my advertised speed of 400 Mbps. They all have the same wifi standards so I'm not sure why I'm not getting my full bandwidth on this tablet. All the tests were done on the 5Ghz SSID and right next to the router.
Devices I've tested on:
Desktop 1 (Hardwired and wireless)
Desktop 2 (Wireless)
MacBook Pro 2017
iPhone X
iPad 2
Testing sites:
speedtest.net
fast.com
They're all showing 400+ Mbps except the tablet.
T510
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Is this a defective tablet or normal? I'm not particularly complaining about the speeds I'm getting now but I just want to make sure that this isn't a defect.

I saw another user complaint about it to.
He had speed problems with 5Ghz and with 2.4Ghz it was better

~200 - 250 Mbps is a good value, my T510 gets only ~150 Mbps download and (which is interesting) ~280 Mbps upload - tested with speedtest.net app on 5Ghz WiFi. On 2,4Ghz WiFi is the situation a bit worse ~50/50Mbps only. And my wired internet speed is 500/500 Mbps.

RichyE said:
I saw another user complaint about it to.
He had speed problems with 5Ghz and with 2.4Ghz it was better
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Yeah I actually read through that as well. I have a replacement Tab A coming on Monday so I'm curious to see what the results are on that one.
Machi007 said:
~200 - 250 Mbps is a good value, my T510 gets only ~150 Mbps download and (which is interesting) ~280 Mbps upload - tested with speedtest.net app on 5Ghz WiFi. On 2,4Ghz WiFi is the situation a bit worse ~50/50Mbps only. And my wired internet speed is 500/500 Mbps.
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I'm not particularly complaining about the speed I'm getting but more curious if this was something wrong with the tablet. All the devices including the Tab A are 802.11 n which should mean they are capable of 600 Mbps on 5 Ghz band. All the other devices did it without issue yet the Tab A wasn't able to.

I picked up a replacement TaB A and it gets the same speeds. I uploaded a video of it as well.

It seems like you all are discussing the wi-fi performance without listing one important spec, how many transmit or receive streams does the Tab A (2019) support? Samsung doesn't list anywhere in its literature how many wi-fi steams it supports, but given it's a low-end device, I am willing to bet something that it only has 1x1 steam. The iPhone X comes with 2x2 steams and the MacBook Pro comes with the unprecedented 3x3. The rest of performance equation depends on how well the internal antennas are designed and other factors. And we all know, after the Tab S5e Wifi problems, that even Samsung can't sometimes design antenna for proper operation (the Huawei Mediapad M5 also had wifi problems because of using the same antenna for wifi and BT).
A 1x1 802.11ac device can link up with the router up to 400Mbps, but in real life this number is MUCH lower even when in the same room with the router (you can check this number in the wifi settings by tapping the SSID). And then, a whole lot of that bandwidth lost because wi-fi wastes a lot of it on its own transmission record-keeping. As a result, it's entirely fine to see 150Mbps in a bandwidth test even though you're linked to a router at say 250Mbps.
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Orite said:
I'm not particularly complaining about the speed I'm getting but more curious if this was something wrong with the tablet. All the devices including the Tab A are 802.11 n which should mean they are capable of 600 Mbps on 5 Ghz band. All the other devices did it without issue yet the Tab A wasn't able to.
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The Tab A (2019), and others listed above should have 802.11ac, not n. 600Mbps was a theoretical peak for 802.11n with a 40Mhz channel width ONLY with a 4 streams, and such devices never materialized. A typical 802.11n device had one stream, or two, so the cap was at 150 or 300 respectively. The cap for link speed of 802.11ac devices with two streams is 800ish.

Akopps said:
It seems like you all are discussing the wi-fi performance without listing one important spec, how many transmit or receive streams does the Tab A (2019) support? Samsung doesn't list anywhere in its literature how many wi-fi steams it supports, but given it's a low-end device, I am willing to bet something that it only has 1x1 steam. The iPhone X comes with 2x2 steams and the MacBook Pro comes with the unprecedented 3x3. The rest of performance equation depends on how well the internal antennas are designed and other factors. And we all know, after the Tab S5e Wifi problems, that even Samsung can't sometimes design antenna for proper operation (the Huawei Mediapad M5 also had wifi problems because of using the same antenna for wifi and BT).
A 1x1 802.11ac device can link up with the router up to 400Mbps, but in real life this number is MUCH lower even when in the same room with the router (you can check this number in the wifi settings by tapping the SSID). And then, a whole lot of that bandwidth lost because wi-fi wastes a lot of it on its own transmission record-keeping. As a result, it's entirely fine to see 150Mbps in a bandwidth test even though you're linked to a router at say 250Mbps.
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The Tab A (2019), and others listed above should have 802.11ac, not n. 600Mbps was a theoretical peak for 802.11n with a 40Mhz channel width ONLY with a 4 streams, and such devices never materialized. A typical 802.11n device had one stream, or two, so the cap was at 150 or 300 respectively. The cap for link speed of 802.11ac devices with two streams is 800ish.
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I actually had no idea about the number of antennas. Everything I've read and what you've said have pointed to the Tab A having a 1x1 stream and I can live with that. Just had my head scratching for few days.
Thank you it's much appreciated.

Hi All, I have the same problem with t510. Thank all for the infos and clearing this topic.
Sadly my wifi speed is around 66 mbps and and I getting half of that on my tablet is plain s*it. Just tried nvidia now on my tablet and that was when I realised this problem. Got 540p with like 10fps.. Shame on samsung to go so cheap on the wifi chip.. :\

My Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019) SM-T510 simply refused to work properly on 5Ghz wifi, no matter what I did.
My solution was to go into my router device's admin page, and create two seperately named network SSIDs for the different frequencies:
- My 2.4Ghz Wifi network
- My 5Ghz Wifi network
I set the tablet to only use "My 2.4Ghz Wifi network", and no issues since.

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Wireless Speed?

What all speed are you guys connected at? Apparently it's supposed to be a Wireless-N capable chip in the TF, correct?
I am only achieving a link speed of 72Mbps. But it feels much much slower when transferring large files... or, is it my imagination?
It only has 2.4 ghz N not 5 ghz N. 5 ghz N goes up to 300 mbps, 2.4 tops out at 130 mbps.
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Thanks. Then I am still not achieving that speed (130mbps). I'm only getting 72. Wonder what is up with that.
same here @72. i check to make sure i my router set only to N (i understand having it set to G/N will cause the speed to get capped even lower, but nope, it's pure n)
I don't need a signature.
someone correct me if im wrong, but my understanding is that all devices in your network need to be "N" capable in order to achieve close to maximum speeds. If you have a laptop running on g' then by default your network run on g speeds.
Not sure if this might be the case here
I know my Linksys can transmit two different wireless signals. One signal is on "B/G" mode and the other signal is on pure "N" mode. Still it only connects at 72MBPS
The transformer and Android devices in general seem to be a bit slow in transferring large files. It might be do to smaller packet sized, inefficiencies in the Wifi stack, filesystem, or other factors. I think any reasonable rate of Wifi link speed is going to suffice. I do not detect much of a difference in actually throughput as I move through the house and the Link speed changes.
Yup. 72Mbps here too on a Linksys e2000 running dd-wrt. Same on my HTC Desire.
Ok, who wants to start the class action lawsuit for false advertising?
usafle said:
Ok, who wants to start the class action lawsuit for false advertising?
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You'd need to sue an entire industry or two for every tech product ever produced.
I was wandering the same thing...no -n connection...but my laptop connects fine
I think you should get started on looking at lawyers. We will be right behind you.
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You'd need to sue an entire industry or two for every tech product ever produced.
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Interesting that others are getting 72Mbps. I can't get more than 65Mbps, regardless of whether my network is configured for BGN or N only. That's with the tablet as close as two feet from the router, and no other networks visible (low density residential area, so likely not too much interference). Tried standard (20Mhz) and wide (40Mhz) channels, as well. Signal strength shows as excellent, but nothing gets me above 65Mbps.
That said, speed seems fine to me. Range could be better, my laptop will happily pick up wifi for almost double the distance of my Transformer, but inside the house it works pretty reasonably anywhere on either floor.
How is it false advertising? They said Wireless N, it supports wireless N. They never said it supports wireless N @ 300mbps .
EDIT: And before anyone tries to argue, no, Wireless N connection classification just says up to 300mbps supported, not that it has to be 300mbps, it's a frequency not a speed classification.
Max speed is 65 . 6 FEET away from my dlink dir 655
Just having a bit of fun..... breathe... breathe...
seshmaru said:
How is it false advertising? They said Wireless N, it supports wireless N. They never said it supports wireless N @ 300mbps .
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usafle said:
What all speed are you guys connected at? Apparently it's supposed to be a Wireless-N capable chip in the TF, correct?
I am only achieving a link speed of 72Mbps. But it feels much much slower when transferring large files... or, is it my imagination?
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Sadley yes, the transformer is only able to achieve 72Mbps wireless N speeds
In a previous thread i started (Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068468)
In short Wireless N gets its major speed increase from using multiple channels (MIMO) and the increase in bandwidth between channels 20 Mhz or 40 Mhz
There is no difference in speeds between 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz, 5Ghz is ideal due to the least amount of interference in that RF spectrum but the downside is that 5Ghz does not go as far as 2.4Ghz
Anyways
Here is a chart for reference
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Wireless N Link speeds are usually organized by the MCS Index number in FCC documents, and in the FCC documents for the Transformer it maxed at MCS7 index which is 72.2 Mbps (20mhz channel width, 1 MIMO stream)
MCS Index Chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_N#Data_rates
FCC Reports: See SAR Report 1 of 4
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=434077&fcc_id='MSQTF101'
We wont know for sure what a firmware update might fix, which i doubt that is a solution for it anyway, i think its a hardware limitation, but just need to confirm the WLAN chip on the transformer
The FCC documents state its a Murata LBEH19UQJC, but in the various files in the transformer it has clues to suspect its a Broadcom chip, we need a full teardown!!
Overall, the transformer could have seen higher speeds if
A: It allowed a 40 Mhz Channel instead of 20 Mhz
B: It included a 2nd antenna
For some routers like my dlink dir-655 you need to configure to wpa2 and aes and auto channel to get 300mb/s connections.
Sitting within a few feet of my router (Linksys E2000, 802.11n), I am geting 9000 Kbps down and 2000 Kbps up. We're on Comcast Blast!(16000/2000).
Speed means battery drain, so most mobile devices support 802.11n and doing a big step forward in speed,but the standard it self allows 600 MBits in 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz. Most mobile devices suppport only low MCS rates that max out in 72.2 MBits. Did you see an 600 MBit capable AP /router lately?
It is great to have 11n but even the ipad supports only one stream and 72 MBit. Even Cisco delivers in their enterprise gear only 300 MBits not 450 like some others. So be happy with the speed it got, i am sure that the CPU would not be able to handle more than that.

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note 3 & Nexus 5 Wi-Fi speeds comparison. Note 3 has issues.

See link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XvFPwTAGA where I show nexus 5 on same Wi-Fi and speed test server has excellent speeds on Wi-Fi but note 3 often has issues on same Wi-Fi but my s4 works fine on same Wi-Fi. Hope this issue gets sorted with update. Nexus 5 is 10 times faster sometimes as shown in video and note 3 sometimes had connectivity issues even with speed test! My s4 is fine on same Wi-Fi. YouTube always buffers HD and have to switch to 3g infection often. But even 3g and bluetooth connection is rubbish in comparison to my s4. Wondering if no updates to sorry this situation whether to chase Vodafone for refund. I like the note 3 buy the data speeds are rubbish as shown on my YouTube upload. Sometimes good but almost always rubbish.
Any suggestions please? I like the note 3 otherwise and if sorted would like to keep the device.
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See link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XvFPwTAGA where I show nexus 5 on same Wi-Fi and speed test server has excellent speeds on Wi-Fi but note 3 often has issues on same Wi-Fi but my s4 works fine on same Wi-Fi. Hope this issue gets sorted with update. Nexus 5 is 10 times faster sometimes as shown in video and note 3 sometimes had connectivity issues even with speed test! My s4 is fine on same Wi-Fi. YouTube always buffers HD and have to switch to 3g infection often. But even 3g and bluetooth connection is rubbish in comparison to my s4. Wondering if no updates to sorry this situation whether to chase Vodafone for refund. I like the note 3 buy the data speeds are rubbish as shown on my YouTube upload. Sometimes good but almost always rubbish.
Any suggestions please? I like the note 3 otherwise and if sorted would like to keep the device.
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I know what you mean, My S2 has better wifi speeds than my Note 3.
androidlover287 said:
I know what you mean, My S2 has better wifi speeds than my Note 3.
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get 40mbps sometimes on the nexus 5 as shown in video but often struggle even maintaining connection with N3. have tweeted samsung and will wait a few days and if isnt sorted then will seek full refund under the sale of goods act Uk as this device isnt fit for the purpose as even 4y old devices like the HTc desire had better wifi connections and speeds than the N3. My s4 is great though on same network. The N3 struggles with wifi with every network i have tried and all networks give the unstable connection or network error warnings and even speedtests fail often to complete. tried the dialer test menu for switching off wifi power saving and makes no difference, also tried switching off mobile data to see if that makes a difference but no difference at all. Looks like the device keeps cycling wifi on and off all the times, one second i get 20mbps next second the connection is gone, youtube buffering all the times websites load slow, getting fed up of this expensicve device. havent used such a buggy device in a long while. streaming youtube is my daily use case scenario and this wifi issue is making that untenable.
uploads work great on the N3 and get 17mbps upload speeds but downloads struggles often at 2mbps or 0.5mbps as shown in the video
Same WiFi sucks. Very unstable. How do people release this crap?
klau1 said:
Same WiFi sucks. Very unstable. How do people release this crap?
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Found the solution to the samsung galaxy note 3 wifi issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjL8JbSQCvw&
It is **** software from samsung but can get around via disabling default settings as mentioned in the video and am getting 52 mbps now ? Earlier was struggling to view hd youtube videos as always buffering and cut outs and now blistering speeds ?
Disabled that AGES ago. It helps with some issues but not other issues that persist.
Best test is to download from LAN. AKA from a desktop folder that's been shared on the network.
did you fix it?
hey guys do you have any solution to this?
i have the same problem..my speed on wi-fi is just 1.5 to 3 Mbps
I don't find any problem using my Note 3 SM-N9005 on wi fi.
However I always use 5Ghz band at home as this gives higher throughput.
83Mbps down 12 Mbps up
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/754798529
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Information!
OOKLA SPEEDTEST shows since the KitKat 4.4.2 Update wrong results.
The Wi-Fi speed is not around 5 Mbits as shown!!
Check your speed with other Apps and you will see it.
Also try this:
Set GPS ON and check your Wi-Fi speed again with OOKLA SPEEDTEST.
Maybe you will get the same good Speed back.
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I use mine for downloading quite a lot, including torrents and usenet, but I've never noticed wifi issues. Running stable at 19,97Mbps at the moment (On a 20Mbps subscription.)
Sitecom Access Point set to channels 3 and 11, 2.4Ghz
Might be worth mentioning I have it set to static, and not dhcp.
That said, I haven't had any of the connectivity issues people mention from day 1.....
I had issues from the day one, but after I updated my router firmware (it was somehow set not to update), my Note 3 runs about 23 Mbs on 25Mbs network, download (don't care about upload since I don't do it often), pretty solid considering I have 3-5 other devices hooked up to it.
bubblesmoney said:
See link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XvFPwTAGA where I show nexus 5 on same Wi-Fi and speed test server has excellent speeds on Wi-Fi but note 3 often has issues on same Wi-Fi but my s4 works fine on same Wi-Fi. Hope this issue gets sorted with update. Nexus 5 is 10 times faster sometimes as shown in video and note 3 sometimes had connectivity issues even with speed test! My s4 is fine on same Wi-Fi. YouTube always buffers HD and have to switch to 3g infection often. But even 3g and bluetooth connection is rubbish in comparison to my s4. Wondering if no updates to sorry this situation whether to chase Vodafone for refund. I like the note 3 buy the data speeds are rubbish as shown on my YouTube upload. Sometimes good but almost always rubbish.
Any suggestions please? I like the note 3 otherwise and if sorted would like to keep the device.
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i just got may note 3 last week and you posted this a few months ago but my wifi and LTE-A is great... at home on my wifi i got download 92.3 MB and upload 50.3 MB and LTE-A actually did better on download 96.1 MB and upload 40.5 but my carrier is olleh KT in south korea (N900K version) it snapdragon

WiFi Performance Issues

I am beginning to wonder if this is a problem with the Snapdragon 820 chipset. My and my wife's Note 7s exhibited the same behavior. Now, our v20s are doing it as well. Here is the problem:
This is my speed immediately after rebooting my phone. The same applies to hers. This is the service I have. It is the speed I get on my desktop, laptop, my daughter's GS5, and I used to get on my old note 4.
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After the v20 has been connected for a few minutes, and until reboot, THIS is the speed I get:
Both of these were ran from the same position relative to my router.
The Note 7, which my wife and I both had two of before getting the v20, shares the same chipset and did the exact same thing. A few things of note: I did have a Netgear R6400 AC router until a couple of weeks ago. It was a great router and always delivered my full speed to my devices, except the Note 7 and v20. I recently upgraded my router to a Netgear Nighthawk x10.
https://www.netgear.com/landings/ad7200/?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
I did this partially to rule out an issue with the R6400, and because my parents needed a new router so this gave me an excuse with my wife to spend 500 bucks on the router I wanted. The point is, the issue is not the router. This behavior only occurs in our v20s. One would think that the newest flagship phone would play nicely with a new flagship router.
Why do I get full speed only for about 3 minutes after a reboot? Could it be a problem with the congestion algorithm? This has been driving me nuts since we "upgraded" from our Note 4s to the 7s back in August. Does anyone else have similar issues?
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It is highly improbable that I am the ONLY ONE who is experiencing this. Anyone?
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LOTS of variables to deal with here man. To demonstrate, what was packet loss, software version, time of day, isp, etc. These are just a few of the standard ones. Claiming poor wifi performance on the 820 with only 2 spedtest charts gives us next to no info on your problem.
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LOTS of variables to deal with here man. To demonstrate, what was packet loss, software version, time of day, isp, etc. These are just a few of the standard ones. Claiming poor wifi performance on the 820 with only 2 spedtest charts gives us next to no info on your problem.
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Packet loss is 0% both instances. Software version: Android 7.0, I figured that since this is a v20 forum, that went without saying. Time of day - is on the screenshots. ISP = TWC, 300/20. If you read my post, you'll see I can duplicate this behavior all day every day, on two separate devices: my v20, and my wife's v20. Same behavior on the note 7s we had. Our note 4s which we had prior to the note 7s got great speed all the time. My desktop, laptop, daughter's Galaxy s5, my buddies Galaxy Note 5, ALL get excellent speed all the time.
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It is highly improbable that I am the ONLY ONE who is experiencing this. Anyone?
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You cant compare what a desktop and a laptop gets to your phone speeds. Ever think its speed test app itself? I had a note 7 and the v20. When I connected to my works Wi-Fi and run speedtests they was virtually the same. It could be your provider having issues. How many devices are connected to your router when testing the speeds. You do know those tests are suppose to be taken with a grain of salt. Go to a public Wi-Fi spot like McDonald's and test the speeds on the v20 and note 7. I doubt there's anything wrong with the phones.
Dude if you get 110 mbps on your phone then that's more than enough and trying to get the full 330 mbps is just overkill lol
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Same readings when data connection is off, and only wifi is enabled on the v20? And yes there are already different software updates even though they're claiming only security fixes...
I've noticed some weird WiFi performance as well. Specifically a delay in initial connections. If I load a web page it takes a second or two to actually begin loading. I can't say for sure it's the phone yet, though. It may be my router. However I do feel like the WiFi is snappier after initial boot of phone compared to later on. I'll try and post some tests myself.
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You cant compare what a desktop and a laptop gets to your phone speeds. Ever think its speed test app itself? I had a note 7 and the v20. When I connected to my works Wi-Fi and run speedtests they was virtually the same. It could be your provider having issues. How many devices are connected to your router when testing the speeds. You do know those tests are suppose to be taken with a grain of salt. Go to a public Wi-Fi spot like McDonald's and test the speeds on the v20 and note 7. I doubt there's anything wrong with the phones.
Dude if you get 110 mbps on your phone then that's more than enough and trying to get the full 330 mbps is just overkill lol
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I absolutely can compare desktop, laptop, and phone - I just did. Did you even read my OP? Both of those speed tests ARE from my v20. If an over 2 year old device (note 4) gets better, faster wifi than a 2 month old device, something is wrong. The same number of devices are connected in the first test as in the 2nd. Furthermore, my router is Netgears newest flagship, connectivity is a non issue. None of this explains why, for the first couple of minutes after reboot I get the speeds I expect, then after a few minutes, I get what is shown in the 2nd result until I reboot again. 4 devices exhibited this behavior, the only thing they have in common is the chipset. It is not an issue with my provider, as I can immediately get full speed on any device in my home that is NOT a v20. As far as your assertion that these tests should be taken with a grain of salt: they are consistent. Not only the Speedtest app, but other ones as well. If I can reproduce the results without fail across several devices and multiple apps, to me that is a pretty strong indicator that something is off.
Lastly, if 300 mb/s is overkill, then why is gigabit Internet even a thing? These devices are (supposed to be) capable of making use of today's higher speeds.
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yeah I've got some issues too. upon reboot it's definitely faster.
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This is an absolute issue. I have both my Note 7 and V20 (just bought it to replace my Note) hooked up to my Gigabit internet. WiFi drops like a sack of potatoes after a restart on the LG. My note is still crusing along. Wtf
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I actually made a post about this on reddit and many, many, people are saying the same thing...
you guys are lucky... never passed 30/20 on my LGV10 and it looks to be the same with the LGV20 for me... definitely should be capable of 300/30 here.

Are others also having poor wifi speeds?

Screencap from router shows how slow on my AC network at 5G compared to my other phone (Moto X Pure Edition):
(yes, it's weird that MXPE is labeled 'Lenovo' and actual Lenovo G5+ isn't, but I also confirmed by MAC addresses)
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I'd appreciate hearing from any others having a similar issue. But also if you're not and are getting comparable speeds to your other wifi devices. That way I'll know whether to return for a hopefully normal replacement, or if it's more widespread maybe just return and forget it. Thanks.
Edit 1 - phone is still totally stock, btw, XT1687 60GB/4GB RAM no-ads $299 version from Amazon.
Edit 2 - According to specs on Motorola's site it only does 802.11 N and not AC, so 150 Mbps may be all it'll do. The Pure got close to 300 full speed on my previous N network though. I do like everything else about the G5 Plus so far, just expected even mid-range phones would handle AC + dual band by now.
I think moto g5 only support 2.4 Ghz (5 Ghz is optional in 802.11n specs) so theoretical 150 Mbps is max. In reality the moto g5 will probably never break 100 Mbps...
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I think moto g5 only support 2.4 Ghz (5 Ghz is optional in 802.11n specs) so theoretical 150 Mbps is max. In reality the moto g5 will probably never break 100 Mbps...
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According to GSMArena both G5 and G5 Plus support dual band N, and also Motorola's US site for G5 Plus (G5 not is US).
On 5 GHz mine is getting 150 Mbps tops, and 72 on 2.4 GHz. My Moto XPE got 300/144 as tops on my former N router, so I wonder if others are maybe getting that on their G5 Plus on different equipment, or if 150 is the absolute best it can do. On my AC router the MXPE gets 866 Mbps (I think that's tops) but my Acer laptop only gets 433 (still a great speed), so go figure.
You are right it does support dual channel. So maybe 40 MHz channel bonding isn't enabled by default? This would explain why you speed is half of the mxpe
Same problem here on my Indian variant of G5 plus (4+32GB). Haven't done anything with it yet, completely stock. The first two days were good, could touch 22 mbps (yeah, that's quite a big deal in India ) but now it only goes upto 5 mbps whereas other devices show 22 mbps now also. Help would be appreciated.
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According to GSMArena both G5 and G5 Plus support dual band N, and also Motorola's US site for G5 Plus (G5 not is US).
On 5 GHz mine is getting 150 Mbps tops, and 72 on 2.4 GHz. My Moto XPE got 300/144 as tops on my former N router, so I wonder if others are maybe getting that on their G5 Plus on different equipment, or if 150 is the absolute best it can do. On my AC router the MXPE gets 866 Mbps (I think that's tops) but my Acer laptop only gets 433 (still a great speed), so go figure.
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Same, I have 3x3 5ghz and 2.4ghz on my router and my speeds almost mirror your's..150 on A and 78 on 2.4ghz N. My Galaxy S5 connects at 866 on the same network.
My home internet is 200 Mbit and I can only get about 98 on the Moto G5+, it's a disappointment but I like the phone otherwise enough to look over it...but it's almost enough to spend that $35 restock fee Best Buy charges.
My S5 seems snappier at doing Internet related activities due to it being capable of pulling down the full 200Mbit. The battery life of the G5+ is insanely good likely in part due to this.

USB Tethering benchmarks (latency and bandwidth)

Like an increasing number of others I've 'cut the cord' and only use my mobile for internet access. I use USB tethering to share the data with my other devices through a router. I've done a few benchmarks to determine the USB tethering bandwidth and latency between my recently bought Oneplus 8 and it's tethered device. For testing purposes I connected it directly to my laptop and booted into Windows and Ubuntu. A few issues cropped up that I thought worth highlighting to determine what the underlying causes are, to see if there's anything that can be done to resolve them and to get results from others from there devices. Relatively high latencies were observed as were connectivity issues during high bandwidth throughput. Results as below
Latency (average of 100 pings, other devices added for comparison)
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The latency results shows that
The Oneplus 8 has around 3-5 times higher latency than the older and significantly lower specced Samsung XCover3 and Moto G6 Play.
The windows latency timings are around twice that of the Unbuntu timings for the Oneplus, the OS type had a minimal effect on the XCover 3 and no influence on the G6
USB3 adds another 0.5ms to the round trip times in both directions over USB2 for windows but has no influence when used under Ubuntu
The response times from the mobile devices are generally slower than the response times from the laptop
Given the push for 5G for higher bandwidth and lower latencies (when SA 5G NR is implemented at least) it's a step backward to have increased latency times on the user equipment. This will add to the overall latency. I'm interested in seeing what latency times other people are getting over USB tethering not just for the Oneplus 8 but for other makes and models too.
Bandwidth (measured using iperf3 server on the laptop and client on the Oneplus via USB3 average of 10 seconds)
Download
Upload
The iperf tests caused stability issues on the Oneplus 8 whilst using USB3. The USB interface would often crash and reset (confirmed via crash log in logcat). No stability issues were identified using USB2 or WiFi. USB2 bandwidth was maxed out so figures not included in the results. Max Wifi speeds were around 550Mbit/s using 5Ghz WiFi 5. I don't have another Wifi 6 device to test with.
The bandwidth results shows that
There's stability issues using USB3 when pushing bandwidth to the limit
Both download and uploads were faster in Ubuntu
Windows needed two parallel streams to attain top speed whereas in Ubuntu one was sufficient
In usage terms max download speeds (from the Oneplus to the laptop) averaged at 652Mbit/s and and upload speed max averaged out at 947Mbit/s. I don't know if this is a hardware or driver/software limit.
With 5G already hitting over 1Gbit/s the tethering bandwidth over USB3 is now the limiting factor. There's plenty of bandwidth available on the underlying USB3 protocol so its up to manufacturers to push the envelope. It's worth mentioning that Oneplus are still one of only a small selection of manufacturers that have implemented USB3 so this is worth commending. Most are still releasing phones restricted to USB2 speeds. I don't have another mobile with USB3 to test with for comparison. As with the latency findings I'm interested in seeing what results others are getting for USB3 tethering for both the Oneplus 8 and other devices.
App used for testing on the mobiles was Hurricane Electrics 'he.net Network Tools'
Well I jus got my OnePlus 8 thru Vzw 2days ago an must say deff impressed with speeds. Only walked out my front door an on ookla & Xfinity tests clocked over 100mb d.l. & round 8-10upload on only 4g.. I'd upload screen's but can't rem how too. Can't wait to see OnePlus 8 Vzw on 5g

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