Such a nice phone LG G6 is but it makes me so sad and angry that Android 10 ia launched and we are still waiting for pie. If LG doesn't have enough software developers to deliver proper updates then why keep launching new phones? Just stop!!
Like no bootloader unlock for DS wasn't enough to piss us off.
Burn in hell LG! ????
so Lg is bad. I'm never ever buy they smartphones ...
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I've long since left LG mainly due to lack of support and unlockability. Will never be getting another LG phone again and hope that LG is listening as its not too late to let LG6(DS) owners have control to unlock their bootloaders and able to install custom roms. Shame as hardware wise was pretty good.
This is disappointing. If they don't have the resources to customize each operating system version to match their skin, they should stick to stock in order to give timely updates. The lack of feature updates for this phone is extremely frustrating.
In my opinion, there's a 98% chance that the Android 10 wouldn't be even released on the G6 anyway, because Pie is already a second major update for G6 and most of the time, manufacturers don't release more than 2 major updates.
@righN ... I mean it's pretty obvious, that G6 won't get Android 10 ... there is ZERO chance
My samsung J5 2017 has android 9 and my G6 is on android 8.0 ! what a shame for a flagship phone?
LG is just awful
well, forget about the android 10 update, I couldn't get the pie yet. and really curious, when is LG going to provide the 9 for my country? for my G6 device? when are they going to feel happy enough? they supposed to release the 9.0 for the europe countries, but for Turkey it's still a mystery...
not only that, but I no longer can use the stereo microphone feature, only on videos, but on the voice recordings, no. I did my best to solve this issue, even contacted the LG Quick help team, and they said only search for an LG Service near you, they can discover this problem. and I did it once, i've sent my old phone there and the only thing they did is to install a stupid rom on my device and they supposedly repaired it. so I don't wanna watch the same senario anymore. it's already clear that this microphone issue is acurred by the 8.0. what a irresponsibility, I don't know. and one last note is, i'm regret to buy a smartphone from lg.
Im still ok with it
For me it is still top phone, snappy and all except the battery is getting a bit weak after 3 years.
With gcam, youtube vanced and adbolck fast + all usseless apps disabled it is as good as any today flagship.
Lg is slow with updates but with pie i have no need for 10 right now.
Lg don't even allow non-us or Europe phone's bootloader to be unlocked! Why would you guys expect them to support your device, they are not releasing only 1 device like apple
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Today I read that Android 8 goes on a modular structure, and the fact that the system is quietly put from one firmware to several smartphones. Do you think someone will be able to port under our smartphone?
I dont believe this phone is forgoten by its manufacturer Alcatel and I dont see anyone doing something it didnt even had the nougat update
Android 8? Are you crazy bro ??? first 6.1 + 7.0 + 7.1 more more more after 8.0
Alcatel is very bad company, all firmware uptdates impossible.
bad company
I know that now this was my first and my last Alcatel phone I like the phone but Alcatel showed that they don't care about their customers today Samsung announced that his 3 year old S6 phone will get also Android 8 update and so with newer device no upadate's... shame for Alcatel not for us
Oreo added a functionality called Project Treble which makes updating phones easier because it segregates the sections that need to get updated so that Carriers/Manufacturers can update their code quicker. Without that functionality, it is possible to get Oreo, but updates are just as hard to implement as Nougat would be.
In short, no, I don't think that Idol 4S will ever get Oreo. I do think that any future phone should have Oreo (with Project Treble) to potentially avoid this situation in the future.
We can not install any custom roms without opening the bootloader lock! Alcatel is a very dishonest company does not even give us this !! I sent a message to Alcatel over all social media accounts, but they did not even give me one answer. I really like my phone, but it gets so boring like this ...
serif55 said:
We can not install any custom roms without opening the bootloader lock! Alcatel is a very dishonest company does not even give us this !! I sent a message to Alcatel over all social media accounts, but they did not even give me one answer. I really like my phone, but it gets so boring like this ...
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yes truth I like. my phone also Iv write them. evvery day for the same thing and no answer
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ms-along-with-a-suite-of-low-end-google-apps/ google anounced this today do you belive anyone can make a rom while I think alcatel wont do it
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting us and for choosing Alcatel products.
Regarding your request, the IDOL 4 device has been scheduled to take the upgrade until the middle of August 2018 please be patient until the new upgrades will be available for download.
The actual release dates haven't been announced yet.
We will remain at your disposal for any further information and we wish you an excellent day!
Kind regards.
Alexandros
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Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting us and for choosing Alcatel products.
Regarding your request, the IDOL 4 device has been scheduled to take the upgrade until the middle of August 2018 please be patient until the new upgrades will be available for download.
The actual release dates haven't been announced yet.
We will remain at your disposal for any further information and we wish you an excellent day!
Kind regards.
Alexandros
Technical Support Alcatel
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This was from Alcatel earlier this year:
dejandoggy1 said:
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Dear valued customer,
Thank you for getting in touch with us.
We have plan to update idol 4 to android 7.0 in this middle of year,but we can't confirm the date for your country.Please keep your eye on following website for the latest update information: was wruten in the mail I got from alcatel customer care.
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Sometimes i just can't believe alcatel's flagship phone(yes i'm aware of the idol 5s) won't receive any major update... No android 7,no android 8, no nothing. Alcatel(Tcl) has become a joke, they only care about releasing as much crappy low budget devices they possibly can, while software support for said devices is non existent. Its a shame really, because every once in a while they can release a good smartphone(idol 4s) that is completely forgotten software wise. No more alcatel for me...
Do not buy Alcatel phones they Will not update the OS, i know for Shure i have bought a lot of their
Phones, none was ever upgraded, even no security patches.
You're a power user. Can the Honor V10 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Honor V10. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like the mobile myself but I have no idea if this company releases kernel sources or allows unlocked bootloaders easily.
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Looking at the past experience with devices like Honor 8 still stuck on nougat I don't want to encourage Honor brand owing to its poor developer friendly nature and broken promises
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dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point
I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.
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I don't know if everybody here thinks wrong, or I am wrong . Honor v10 comes with Oreo out of the box.
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lmao yes it does
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dude, how many phones did get oreo ? even the recently launched op5t (next to pixel in software updates ) has nougat pre installed . wait for 2018, you will surely get. and believe me, Oreo already has battery drain bug and that's why 8.1 launched recently .
consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat.
Of all oreo devices out there now is in beta phase only.
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dude, what about Nokias, HTC U11, U11+, some Honors already, Xperia XZ1, Compact, Xiaomi, and many others, not mentioning all with Android One program? And "consider famous brands like s8 and note 8 , they are still using nougat..." Well, thats just Samsung, never been so fast with updates, nor it's a famous brand, the s8 or note 8 (but you've meant models, not brand, right?).
Honor v10 comes with oreo and treble support, so you can't even compare that to pre oreo phones that were born with nougat. In theory the treble support and the fact that Huawei released the kernel sources for this phone straight away, should allow for some decent community development
On top of that, I think Huawei was just giving out 100 free devices to willing developers because they want to strenghth the custom rom community for this phone
I think honor really trying to compete with one plus by helping developers by providing all the hardware details and documentation to develop custom Roms for the Honor View 10 and with the treble support soon we will get many custom Roms. I hope developers will take interest in this device.
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so.. do you want slow update STABLE os or do u want fast update BUGGY os ? believe me, i have used honor 6 and oneplus 3 and i certainly felt like you before switching to oneplus 3 but the weekly or frequent updates made a headache for me. well that's may be just me. but it's also a fact. neither am against a company nor am favouring anyone but i just stated my point
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What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..
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What stable os are you talking about..
I bought the view 10 recently .. it was all good till i got the recent face unlock update..
The touch lag is pathetic ( couple of other member's here pointed it out too )
Before the update it was fantastic , but now for a person who types fast its very annoying..
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Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?
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Me too have bought same view 10 and got updated os. No touch lag problem for me. Did you do format after the update ?
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Yes , wiped chache and even full reset , still i can notice the lag .
I thought it was just my mobile but found out in this forum couple of other guys too have the same issue ..
Can anyone post their touch latency figure's ?
If anyone could do before and after update it would be highly appreciated
Which community? Since the bootloader is locked this device is crap for me. I will replace my Honor view 10 with an OnePlus . Cu
Dead.. Community development is bad.
Broken recoveries.
Difficult and buggy flash procedures that render different results.
What works on one phone isn'tguaranteed to work on the next of the same make and model.
Really nice hardware.. Just tedious flash procedures.
Many other companies willingly help developers... While honor steals improvements and then locks down their phones.
If you really want a flash friendly phone.. Huawei and honor isn't.
My next phone will be a Samsung Galaxy note 10 international version.
If you're looking for a development-friendly phone, Honor is not the solution for you. We do have a program where we give out bootloader unlock codes to a select number of people every once in a while, but there is no official support for unlocking your bootloader. This results is a very small development community.
So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?
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So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?
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For that price, I would say yes since it's still pretty powerful. I believe Lineage development is proceeding on this phone but you can check that out yourself in the LOS thread. There won't be anymore updates from HTC.
Ultimately it'll depend on your budget, so if you can spend more, you can always go for something newer
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So I was thinking of buying a 10 off of eBay for around $165. Is this phone's development dead, other than maintenance, since I'd assume HTC will not support it for Android Pie being 2.5 years old. Without oem firmware can this phone even work on stock Android, like 9.0 Lineage or something equivalent? Would anyone recommend buying this so late in its lifecycle?
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At the risk of driving up the price, since I'm currently looking too, I'd say "yes." I have been scouring the smartphone marked for a device no larger than the HTC 10, with sdcard support that runs on Verizon with all features (i.e. wifi calling, hd calling, etc.)
Nothing exists yet. While the Sony Xperia and LG models are appealing, they are (with the exception of the Compact) larger and heavier. Plus they have their own issues (Sony puts out more flagships so models are outmoded more quickly; and their support is allegedly mediocre, not that HTC's is anything to write home about). I even toyed with abandoning ship and moving to iphone, but largely their devices are larger and of course no sdcard support (plus, I hate iOS and many must-have apps are Android only). I even toyed with a U12+, but they're too damn expensive, and for reasons I'm not allowed to say, it wouldn't be my first, second or third choice of handsets.
My 10 dates from the first day of availability, which means the 3,000 mAh battery now has the life of a 1450 mAh battery which is just not good enough to function with. A brand new in box HTC 10 will have an "older" but unused battery and that alone would wake it worth the purchase.
That having been said, yes, development is mostly dead. It's possible someone will port Pie to the device, but honestly, Oreo is so aweful on it that if I bought a "new" 10 now, I'd probably try to keep it on Nougat indefinitely. At least until there are new flagships next spring, maybe even one from HTC that isn't so damn twitchy with unusable non-buttons.
coming from the HTC m8 and this is the second closest thing to a cheap phone that throwing build quality away! (or is all glass). the first being the HTC 10 which is actually cheaper at 160$ but for people on that side of xda said that its battery cant handle anything. what about the Axon 7? I'd be flashing Stock on day one so skin isn't a factor for me.
No. the phone has a very good hardware, but the software is very unstable and nothing works. stay away.
Mine works. Still my daily driver on stock Oreo. I think many people stuff with their phones too much and ruin them.
I have bought mine several weeks ago and I am quite happy about it. A good thing is that there are lots and lots of working ROMs and utilities for it. It is almost unbrickable also.
I love the phone. I prefer Huawei but zte is great too. THe axon 7 is a great phone but the axon m is on sale everywhere for 200. I would get that. comes with the 821 and 4 gb of ram and fold in half screen.
I'm still using my Axon 7 as a daily driver. I think for $200 it's still a solid buy in 2019.
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No. the phone has a very good hardware, but the software is very unstable and nothing works. stay away.
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Can you elaborate more on what you mean by the software is unstable and nothing works? Just curious because I've been running all versions of stock Android and never encountered anything unstable, nor would I claim that nothing works. Phone works awesome even in 2019. Sure we don't have any updated cellular bands, or most recent hardware, but the phone is still solid for general use.
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Can you elaborate more on what you mean by the software is unstable and nothing works? Just curious because I've been running all versions of stock Android and never encountered anything unstable, nor would I claim that nothing works. Phone works awesome even in 2019. Sure we don't have any updated cellular bands, or most recent hardware, but the phone is still solid for general use.
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If you are ok with being on Nougat for the rest of the time you have this phone, then it is a good deal for you, use Nougat stock and stay there. Everything Oreo is broken in some way and drains more battery, ZTE gave us broken Oreo and quit dev for this phone.
Then there is Pie GSI via Treble, which will break more features and opens up another mess of things to learn, and you will be flashing things almost daily trying to fix something, which will most likely break something else.
Hardware specs are good, but software is a mess. Unless like I say, stay on Nougat.
As much as I love my Axon 7, and not going to replace it anytime soon, I think the Pocophone F1 is a much better choice hardware-wise in 2019 and it costs not much more than 200$.
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If you are ok with being on Nougat for the rest of the time you have this phone, then it is a good deal for you, use Nougat stock and stay there. Everything Oreo is broken in some way and drains more battery, ZTE gave us broken Oreo and quit dev for this phone.
Then there is Pie GSI via Treble, which will break more features and opens up another mess of things to learn, and you will be flashing things almost daily trying to fix something, which will most likely break something else.
Hardware specs are good, but software is a mess. Unless like I say, stay on Nougat.
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What about the LOS and PIE based roms? From reading some of those threads it appears they work well? No?
Would like to point out that Shift phone has just released there new phone 6mq with changeable battery, Jack stick and Micro SD card! The 3 main things a mobile NEED to even be interesting to look at.
I have now rooted the Shift 6mq phone with Magisk and we have a dirty TWRP working as well, although still having issues on the later but it is in its beginning stages of this phone. SHIFT6mq - Bootloader unlock / Root / Custom Recoveries / ROMs | SHIFTPHONES
Would anyone be willing to look at the Shift 6mq so we can further support this little German company who goes against the stream of nonsense, it has Android 10 out of the box, they are still working on a Google version and a Light version so you have the choice.
But it is looking good, finally a contender to the old LG V20 - which I have had for my daily driver for 4-5 years or so. A wonderful phone although getting old and it had its shortcomings as well, like the screen Ghosting and not easy to root if even possible.
The LG V20 was the last flagship phone with the 3 essentials - and now we FINALY have something to take over from here!
Would love to see the community support this new mobile and help these guys out, I have toyed and tinkered around with it - and it is possible to pretty much ruin it and get it up and running again although a lot of hooping around, but it can be done already.
So if anyone have the know how, or interest to support a little company who at least stands on some sanity with there phone - it would be nice to see LineageOS support for it.
I don't know much about stuff like that, I just do some newbie rooting and such at the moment, having had to root my new used V20 F800K that already sadly does ghosting. And my new Shift 6mq which I got 10 days after my V20 F800K rescue boat came around to relieve my old V20 H990N Hongkong version as it was and is falling apart. I did not know when I would receive my Shift 6mq but it came around 10 days after I got the new used Korean version of the LG V20. Anyway at least it could be rooted, so that will help me get all my applications over to the new Shift 6mq, which is another milestone that needs to be walked.
Anyway, if any programmers are out there, or people who knows stuff, it would be a nice project for some sanity to support this new phone from Shift, seemingly a good replacement for the old LG V20. I still need to get it up and running and see how it works in daily use, but it looks like it will be a good phone for the next 5 years for me.
Not a surprise it is faster then the LG V20, benchmark shows a good leap - 128 GB of internal space although the system itself is 21 GB compared to 9 GB on the LG V20 which had 64 GB. 8 GB of Ram, although not sure what I need that much for, but I could not live without more internal space as I am always using it so quick on the LG V20, books, maps and such takes a lot of space and what not. One of the reasons I disqualified the Fairphone 3 when looking at both phones, only having 64GB of internal memory, is just not going to do it for me. I actually ended up just ordering another LG V20 but because of corona nonsense they would not send it to me, being much cheaper solution. And needing a new phone, I had to then go with the Shift 6mq which was 5-6 times as much compared to the 4-5 year old LG V20. Anyway, if a phone does not have the 3 essentials, I won't buy it, not interested!
Anyway...
So guys, anyone up for looking at it? If you need any help I am here. I have toyed around with it, and breaking it, I can get it up and running again. I've done it a couple of times now... And still doing some testing on TWRP which seems to have a failing bug that I need to report.
But in any case, would love to see anyone starting working on it.
Dearly regards
- Darkijah
You did a great thing by using a phone for over 4 years. These are why companies are making better phones with long term support - if you can replace the battery or screen for cheap, and your carrier doesn't offer you a "deal" on a new phone, why would you want one?
Now me on the other hand, in 6 years I've daily driven 5 phones and 8 versions of Android, including 4 custom ROMs.
HOWEVER, I did it sustainably - using only phones given to me for free with the exception of the Moto G and a used S10e.