Picking up z4 from vzw today. Will test usb c to hdmi hub adapter as well as otg - Moto Z4 Guides, News, & Discussion

Going to pick my z4 up from the vzw store today. Will test my usb c to hdmi hub adapter. Worked for my galaxy note. To bypass using dex so i could plug my phone mouse and keyboard to any hdmi tv. Got online for $11 worked great. Going to see if the z4 works for this and test out its otg capabilities today. Will let yall know

Also going to look into getting root. After i contact moto to see if we can get device on there bootloader unlock list

No go on the usb c to hdmi hub. Detects charging. But does not extend the display to the hdmi device. Tested on one of my tvs . Will test on my samsung smart but i doubt that makes a difference.

Regarding the bootloader unlock, are you saying it's possible that the VZ branded Z4 may be eligible through Moto's portal? I tried it and, as predicted, it failed. I just assumed all VZ phones are locked down.

I don't think any support MHL anymore as Miracast and Googlecast replaced it. Tried OTG and no worky. But, please prove me wrong.

Any luck on unlocking the bootloader? I've never had a Verizon phone but I came across this z4 practically brand new for a 100 bucks so I picked it up. If I knew that u couldn't unlock the bootloader I would have passed.

No dice on the bootloader. I emailed moto have heard nothing. No mhl no ucb c hub to hdmi . Its unfortunite i love this phone aside from that. Maybe if we bug the heck out of moto they will add it to there bootloader unlock. It worked for older vzw moto z devices. In other news I went to vzw paid $200 for the projector mod. A little disappointed. Not bright enough. At close distance maybe max of 40" its pretty decent. Only on a white surface with lights off.

detects charging, but doesn't actually charge
At least that's what the usb-c "charging bridge" I tried did. I am very disappointed, I can use the OTG keyboard and mouse through the usb-c adapter, the charge indicator came on... but no charge.. The battery ran down.
Is this what you found? I only tried one adapter.
I also discovered the moto Z4 is the only Android I've ever found a wired Xbox compatible controller to not work on OTG, the device shows up as a usb device but isn't recognized as a controller on this phone. ???
silver03wrx said:
No go on the usb c to hdmi hub. Detects charging. But does not extend the display to the hdmi device. Tested on one of my tvs . Will test on my samsung smart but i doubt that makes a difference.
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This may not be the place but I haven't seen a debloat thread specific to the z4. I ordered one today after the sammy a50 didn't support 1x or 3g. I've only owned a droid x, s3, and s5 cid15. All rooted and with custom roms. But I'm afraid no root or unlocked bootloader for the z4.
Even so, I know you can uninstall or disable apps for the current user on the device through adb. Have you guys done any debloating of the verizon crap thats installed on the z4 from vzw?
I'm sure it can be done with adb but I'm not sure how effective it is.. My understanding is that the user you uninstall the apps for will no longer load or run for that user.
One other question is can this device be themed with andromeda since it's fairly close to aosp from what I've read. If not can it be themed at all. Thanks all for your assistance.

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Powered USB hub.

Which ones worked for you?
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I bought this one because I needed 2.0 power to all ports for the MIDI devices I have. It works well. Nice and cheap, plus it's the multi-TT mode which means your 2.0 devices won't drop to 1.1 when you plug in older devices, although I don't know if that even matters with the KF. I was considering buying a solar USB hub to test but I don't expect it to charge as much as a wall-charged hub.

[q] mhl hdmi

Has anyone seen definitive proof that an MHL hdmi adapter will work with the Razr M? I guess I'll know for sure when my girlfriend picks hers up but thought I'd go ahead and ask becuase I'm bored as hell at work.
Not saying that this is final, but I just picked up an M this morning and tried plugging it in to my MHL adapter. Unfortunately, the TV continued to show no signal
dew.man said:
Not saying that this is final, but I just picked up an M this morning and tried plugging it in to my MHL adapter. Unfortunately, the TV continued to show no signal
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Right there with you no HDMI though MHL just tested it a few minutes ago.
Thats too bad, if this phone had HDMI even if I had to use MHL and ICS webtop it would be perfect. Its the first phone in a while with a pocketable size screen and decent specs.
I don't use my phone for HDMI output so I have no experience with it. There was a thread on the motorola forum saying the device does support DLNA in response to similar questions. Not sure if that helps. I looked through Target and BestBuy, just curious, but didn't see any TVs that listed DLNA support.
Allot of Samsung internet TV had Dlna
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HDMI mirroring issue

Hello everyone, I got an 11 pin mhl to HDMI converter and trying to mirror it to tv but it does not display anything on TV.
I got it from amazon cable masters brand
Just to be sure I also bought similar dongle but another brand. Same did not work with my phone. Not sure if anybody has issue with this.It does say hdmi connected but nothing displays on tv.
If anyone knows any product that worked for them can you please post or help me why it's not working. Thanks!
That's why I prefer to stick with oem products. The mhl 2.0 Samsung part does mirror. At least from the YouTube video I have seen. You could try rebooting the phone too. Custom roms might interfere with this too. Idk
oscarthegrouch said:
That's why I prefer to stick with oem products. The mhl 2.0 Samsung part does mirror. At least from the YouTube video I have seen. You could try rebooting the phone too. Custom roms might interfere with this too. Idk
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Thanks for reply. I just bought Samsung 11pin mhl adapter from bestbuy. Still no luck. I can display S3 on tv but not S4. I am guessing something might be wrong with usb port of my phone?
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That's why I prefer to stick with oem products. The mhl 2.0 Samsung part does mirror. At least from the YouTube video I have seen. You could try rebooting the phone too. Custom roms might interfere with this too. Idk
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I have the Samsung adapter mentioned above. It works flawlessly. A bit pricey, but worth it, IMO
Beamed from my Sammy GS4
honda78610 said:
Thanks for reply. I just bought Samsung 11pin mhl adapter from bestbuy. Still no luck. I can display S3 on tv but not S4. I am guessing something might be wrong with usb port of my phone?
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I use the OEM mhl/hdmi and the 11 pin for the s4- works fine.
Make sure that the cable connects complete if you keep the s4 case on, otherwise take the case off
My cases are different thicknesses from the s3 to s4 and I have to have the case off for it to work well on my S4.
Also, try plugging it in to the phone AFTER you connect the power to the mhl and hdmi to the TV.
You might also consider rebooting before your plug try plugging it in to see if it makes a difference. The reason I say that is when I use the all share hub to show video via wi-fi, MX player sometimes has the audio and video not synced right, after I reboot, it is synced fine. I know that isn't your exact issue here, I'm just saying sometimes the reboot helps if you're like me and leave your phone on constantly without rebooting.
One other thought that was mentioned earlier - if you're on a custom rom, make sure it supports it.
And of course, you can just pick up an OEM (since you have the 11pin adapter) for around $10-15 on amazon and return it easy if it doesn't work on your S4 and if you're not on a custom ROM, you can point your finger at the S4 port:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EIA1UHUNBE-SGH-I777-T-Mobile-SGH-T989/dp/B006FYXL2O
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Adapter-Hdmi-3Fhu-Galaxy/dp/B0080CXSOU
Students get free prime (2day shipping) for a few months, and caregivers too..(aka amazon mom but includes a whole slew of folks also)
You could probably do this: http://itvirtualevent.com/juniperwlan/index.php and let it run in the background, get your amazon gift card and you're cable is mostly paid for (I just saw the link today, so I can't vouch for it, but it's an easy $10 giftcard if it is what is says)...

USB type c on Nexus 6P

Will it be USB 3.1 or like on One Plus Two?
What do you think?
I think that because Google is behind some of the tech choices (like all Nexus devices,) it will be USB 3.1. The Nexus devices have always been a way for Google to show what they think the next generation of Android phones should include.
USB C is a fantastic connector and is much better than the Micro B connector we have all gotten used to, but just switching the connector hopefully won't be good enough for Google. They'd be stupid not to take advantage of the newest USB standards and everything that comes with it.
So, my bet is on the 6P having USB 3.1.
i believe that the new nexus' will have the type c.. since marshmallow will support it .. and this is from google themselves
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I think that because Google is behind some of the tech choices (like all Nexus devices,) it will be USB 3.1. The Nexus devices have always been a way for Google to show what they think the next generation of Android phones should include.
USB C is a fantastic connector and is much better than the Micro B connector we have all gotten used to, but just switching the connector hopefully won't be good enough for Google. They'd be stupid not to take advantage of the newest USB standards and everything that comes with it.
So, my bet is on the 6P having USB 3.1.
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all of the leaks pretty much confirm USB C as a thing on the 6P and 5X. Im just hoping they are able to implement fast charging through them
In the leaked slides Google said it will have faster data transfer with USB Type-C so that implies its USB 3.1 but we will know for sure tomorrow
I'm about 99% sure it's just USB 2.0 Type C.
All of the accessory cables on google's store page are USB 2.0.
Sucks, but oh well I guess :/
Edit: AndroidPolice confirmed USB3 not USB2!!!
WOOHOO!!

MHL support?

I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!
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I recently put a new deck in my car, and the ONE reason I spent the money I did on it is because of the MHL capability. Now it seems all these new phones don't support MHL. None of the newer Samsung do, and it seems if I'm trying to get one of the top competitor phones, MHL is no longer an option?
Did anyone see/read/hear of MHL being a thing on the 6P? If it turns out that MHL isn't an option stock on this phone, is MHL a thing that can be added via a custom rom, or is it purely hardware?
Thanks for ANY and all help guys!!
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Haven't seen any news of it, but can confirm there's hardware required as the USB port is different (at least on regular micro usb phones, NFI with USB-C). I can't even plug an MHL cable into my S6, whereas friend with Note 4 it all works easily.
M.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well. Apparently they got rid of the MHL support completely in the S6 and Note5 Line. I read that they don't even have MHL in the Nexus 6.... So I'm really afraid they might not have it here either.... Kind of sucks I guess.
I am about ready to tuck a Miracast adapter behind my dashboard. Then there's no fussing with cables or anything
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you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905
An alternative solution is chromecast has screen mirroring support. Tested it last night with the new chromecast app. Worked very well.
Chromecast needs the phone to be a hotspot and have internet connectivity at start up. Works if the conditions are right, so depends on where you live.
shakuyi said:
you need this bad boy...remember we will have USB-C
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12905
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Only bad thing about that is there won't be a way to charge the phone at the same time.
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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They mentioned in their Q&A, that the usb is 2.0 because it's always on and 3.0 takes more power apparently.
Not sure if correct, just relaying info
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ti2095 said:
and it does not work. Apparently google took the easy road and implemented only USB2.0 with USB Type C.
This means faster transfer speed - bull
Fast charge only because of qualcomm quick charge 2.0
No alternate modes (MHL, HDMI)
source: droid-life.com nexus-5x-and-6p-reddit-ama-highlights-name-meaning-usb-2-0-no-qi-charging-and-more
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From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!
CNLiberal said:
From what I understand, this phone does not support Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Every Google page on this phone says "Fast Charging". That's freaking bogus, too. It's part of the Qualcomm 810 processor. Why the heck not??? If the hardware is in there, its possible it could be enabled through a kernel tweak. No guarantees though.
And for that matter, that processor supports wireless charging through metal. Just give me DISPLAYPORT!
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Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
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No HDMI has been confirmed.
[–]strabbit 135 points 1 day ago
Will either the Nexus 5x or 6p support HDMI via the USB-C connector?
[–]google_nexus_team 115 points 1 day ago
DB> Nope. But Cast mirroring to ChromeCast or Android TV has got really good. And Chromecasts are only $35. And we have new ones announced yesterday.
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For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
MHL and HDMI will not work on the 6P. The direct answer from the devs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3mzrl9/hi_im_hiroshi_lockheimer_here_at_google_with_the/cvjm6jl?context=1
We know thanks,, posted about 5 times just above yours...
Nothing new here, the Nexus 6 didn't have it either.
Slimport on the Nexus 5 was an LG thing...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Uhh yes it does support quick charge. 10 mins charge give it 7 hours of use if I remember correctly. This isn't the Oppo OnePlus that tries to sugar coat things and sell you garbage.
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Unfortunately, it does not support "Quick Charge" Everything Google has said is "Fast Charge" which is not the QC standard. All your chargers you have now, are slow and useless to the 6P.
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Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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Not sure if serious.......
So far Sony is doing a really good job with keeping the Xperia line with the MHL connections.
Big Cam said:
For the in dash solution, get one of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Interface-Str...UTF8&qid=1443793137&sr=8-6&keywords=crux+wifi
Then you can still charge it.
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I was doing some research and found this thread. That CRUX looks interesting, but seems like Chromecast may be the way to go for $35.

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