Pixel 3a - Why Bite? And Epecially in The US? - Google Pixel 3a Guides, News, & Discussion

In the case of the Pixel 3a, it is basically the Return Of Nexus - remember the Nexus 5 and even Nexus 6? The Pixel 3a has been showing up with some jaw-dropping price tags - as low as (don't faint) $299 unlocked/no carrier. (That is a price I saw with my own eyeballs.) This is pricing I have not seen as of late without substantial compromises. While the 3a has compromises, they aren't the ones you would expect.. While it doesn't support wireless charging, it *does* support fingerprint unlocking (coming from the S7 - which also supports fingerprint unlocking, this is one feature it would have hurt to lose. While it lacks wireless charging(which the S7 Snapdragon supports), it is also a feature I do not use. It still supports USB charging - though it does trade in USB A for USB C (it does include the proper cabling, though) - therefore, it's a quibble. The features it lacks are ones I didn't use - and some of the features it has (the camera, for example) are - quite bluntly - overkill. Despite the $299 price, it is nearly too MUCH phone - which I'm not used to even thinking - let alone saying - for a phone at this price aimed squarely at the US.

I ordered mine (at $399). I am betting that the $299 figure is if you are trading in a phone. I am not doing that. $399 is a good price point. I would have paid another $50 if they had decided to make the battery removable. I should be getting my phone tomorrow. Hopefully the rootz start soon!

Our family is getting two, basically for free, from T-Mobile, for my daughters, and I'll probably be getting an aXL for myself.
Excellent replacement for an ageing OG Pixel and a quirky as heck and frustrating S8., and the aXL will make an excellent backup device for me.

This phone makes a heck-of-a-lot of sense to me. First, average consumers will have access to a better camera than the iPhone at roughly half the price. For too long, I avoid recommending Android to eager iPhone users because most Android cameras suck on mainstream phones.
Second, I don't think wireless charging is deal breaker for most (and it's not for me). I'd much rather have quick charge than slow wireless charging.
Finally, the CPU is a Snapdragon 6xx, but I don't think the average user would notice one bit. Maybe here on XDA, we can quibble over the benefits of one CPU vs the next, but for average daily use, I don't think anyone will notice (except that the battery will last longer)
I think the price at $400 for possibly the best camera on the market with a nice big notch-free screen, USB-C, good battery life and timely Android updates could be a big reason this sells well (if they actually market it)

I think this is going to be my Moto G5+ replacement. I'm tiring of the subpar camera.
After regretting paying 700 for a S7 3 years ago, i'm just done paying that much for a phone. This is exactly what i'm looking for. For those that want better CPU/RAM/SD card slot, you can pay just a little more for a OnePlus 6T. I don't like that the 3a is limited to 64GB of storage with no SD, but in all honesty I don't see that as a real world issue as I rarely if ever find myself needing the extra storage I currently have.
I'm 100% confident root solutions will come quickly too.

My Droid Turbo is definitely showing it's age but Felipe's ROMs and kernel have kept it going. I'll miss wireless charging but gain a great camera. Other options include a Mix 3 which seems appealing save for MMS issues with Verizon, OnePlus 7 if I can limp along until then or hope for another Pixel 3 discount. Replacement displays and other hardware should be much less expensive for the 3a down the road than the other options.

Good news, someone on reddit just confirmed that the bootloader can be unlocked the same way as all previous Pixel phones. Let the games begin!

Why? A great camera is my #1 priority, and #2 is rootable/ROMable because I keep my phones for more than 2 years and want updates. I'm not going to pay Pixel 3 type of prices.
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BTW, just saw the $299 price, it's on BestBuy if you activate the phone "today" on Sprint. $350 if you activate on Verizon or AT&T. Anyone saw trade-in deals?

tvoneicken said:
BTW, just saw the $299 price, it's on BestBuy if you activate the phone "today" on Sprint. $350 if you activate on Verizon or AT&T. Anyone saw trade-in deals?
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I don't lend any legitimacy to prices through carriers other than Google itself. I know with Sprint, you are paying a price to LEASE the phone and then have to pay to own it at the end of that lease (usually 2 years). I would rather pay my $399 and own it outright without having to pay anything else later.

The unlocked version at Best Buy is not discounted, however, they're offering a $100 BB gift card with purchase, so I just pulled the trigger on the XL and I'll be picking it up today. I'd rather have $100 at BB than $100 at Google Play Store, which Google is offering as well.

I looked at the Google store and it looks like I will effectively be getting it for $299 since I will get a $100 fi credit after I activate the phone. Can't beat that!

Woohoo, got mine... the direct-connect data sync is pretty sweet. It's still updating my apps but this is the easiest phone transition i've ever done. Decided I won't bother with unlocking the bootloader until i'm ready to root (which I imagine won't be too long)

My daughter was begging for a new phone for her 15th birthday. She's been on iphone forever - hand me downs from her mom. I hate supporting iphones. We looked at the specs on this compared to the xr, and she agreed this one looked good - so we bought one yesterday at Best Buy. I didn't even know it came with a $100 best buy gift card, but I wanted to see it in person before buying (otherwise I'd have ordered from Google), and I'm glad I did.
I have a oneplus 6t; I'm curious to see how this phone compares. I'm so proud my kid wanted to switch to android.

The $299USD Hitches
edufur said:
I ordered mine (at $399). I am betting that the $299 figure is if you are trading in a phone. I am not doing that. $399 is a good price point. I would have paid another $50 if they had decided to make the battery removable. I should be getting my phone tomorrow. Hopefully the rootz start soon!
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The $299USD hitch is that you activate ASAP with AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint. No transfer or trade-in required. I inquired because I would be coming from Tracfone/T-Mobile - I would be whacked with the $399 (full bill) price tag (Pixel 3a in Just Black)). Still cheaper than even a Galaxy S9 or Note 9 by $200USD - an S10e by $350USD - in Prism Black in either case. Just about half the price of a Note 9 - and *less* than half the price of the floor S10e. And unlike the S10e, the Q beta is an option from the jump.

lermajm9 said:
My daughter was begging for a new phone for her 15th birthday. She's been on iphone forever - hand me downs from her mom. I hate supporting iphones. We looked at the specs on this compared to the xr, and she agreed this one looked good - so we bought one yesterday at Best Buy. I didn't even know it came with a $100 best buy gift card, but I wanted to see it in person before buying (otherwise I'd have ordered from Google), and I'm glad I did.
I have a oneplus 6t; I'm curious to see how this phone compares. I'm so proud my kid wanted to switch to android.
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Maybe there is hope for the world...

lermajm9 said:
I have a oneplus 6t; I'm curious to see how this phone compares. I'm so proud my kid wanted to switch to android.
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We're on the fence right now between a 6T or the 3a XL to replace a Nexus 6P--which, with it's second battery, is still working but approaching 4 yrs (purchased first week). Two months ago I bought a MOTO Z3Play to replace my Nexus 5X which had mobo replaced twice. Now (because of the possibility of wifi calling on AT&T prepaid), I wish I'd remembered this phone was coming out. Z3P doesn't have anywhere near the radio I thought MOTO would give me.
Please report back re the 6t vs 3a once you get a chance to get a feel for it. TIA.
(Proud of your kid, too! I keep an iphone SE for wifi calling as our reception on every carrier is often zero in our house.)

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The $299USD hitch is that you activate ASAP with AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint. No transfer or trade-in required. I inquired because I would be coming from Tracfone/T-Mobile - I would be whacked with the $399 (full bill) price tag (Pixel 3a in Just Black)). Still cheaper than even a Galaxy S9 or Note 9 by $200USD - an S10e by $350USD - in Prism Black in either case. Just about half the price of a Note 9 - and *less* than half the price of the floor S10e. And unlike the S10e, the Q beta is an option from the jump.
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Not just those carriers. If you are a FI customer, google will credit you back $100 after you activate. So I am basically getting it for $299 as well.

Getting so good feedback with the 3A's. Hope it's gonna be mostly positive. Crossing my fingers.

I've got a 6T also, had the 3XL when it released but the combo of horrid notch and 1k price point sent me back to OnePlus. This price makes it all more palatable and I did like the software and camera so I'm going it another go. My tracking shows Saturday, I'll try and post after I've had a chance to flog it enough to get a feel for what's on offer.

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I've got a 6T also, had the 3XL when it released but the combo of horrid notch and 1k price point sent me back to OnePlus. This price makes it all more palatable and I did like the software and camera so I'm going it another go. My tracking shows Saturday, I'll try and post after I've had a chance to flog it enough to get a feel for what's on offer.
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I'l be waiting to read your report, also.

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Price dropping and Resell value

So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$ all in 5 months. [August Release Date]
What sort of resell value are we looking at before the Moto X2 comes out around august?? Im only curious because I would like to purchase this moto x unlocked phone now for 300 and sell around July/August.
At this rate, its looking like ~100$-125$? What do you guys think?
You should not consider a smartphone as an investment. It depend on how much more discount Google will give it. If the price stay the same, I would say if you keep it mint, my guess is $240.
You couldn't even buy a mint (international) Galaxy S2 for $125 and its 3 years old.
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So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$ all in 5 months. [August Release Date]
What sort of resell value are we looking at before the Moto X2 comes out around august?? Im only curious because I would like to purchase this moto x unlocked phone now for 300 and sell around July/August.
At this rate, its looking like ~100$-125$? What do you guys think?
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Probably around $250 if you keep it in good condition.
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I just sold my black Verizon branded x on swappa for $290. That right there bad for the $299 unlocked motomaker I just ordered.
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You should not consider a smartphone as an investment. It depend on how much more discount Google will give it. If the price stay the same, I would say if you keep it mint, my guess is $240.
You couldn't even buy a mint (international) Galaxy S2 for $125 and its 3 years old.
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I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!
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I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!
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Craiglist only if you carry a Remington 12 gauge for protection, otherwise Swappa is hassle free. You might be able to get a few dollars more from eBay, but they have lots of fees so in the end it's not worth it.
I think you should look to buy a phone as a keeper than just temp use. People have said Moto X feel faster than their Note 3 due to better software optimization. Seems like a waste if you're buying it just to use LTE temporarily.
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I just sold my black Verizon branded x on swappa for $290. That right there bad for the $299 unlocked motomaker I just ordered.
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And it's a verizon not an unlocked gsm.
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I am not looking at this as an investment. I am simply need a temporary to use a 4G/LTE compatible phone because I am using ATT Iphone4s on Tmobile network, which is very spotty due to different bands (And lack of). I will probably look into a top tier phone like S5 or Iphone6 come July. I am just looking to buy one motox new (take care of it) then sell it and have it hopefully cost me 20-30$ a month on average.
Im happy everyones so optimistic that till still be near the 200$ range considering its only $300-330 now. Whats the best way to sell? Craigslist, ebay or Swappa? Thanks guys!
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Why not a moto g?
Also IIRC ebay + paypal fees run about 13% on a phone I think - about $40 on a $300 sale? Swappa is $10 + paypal fees (3%) - about $19.
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So what started off as a 500$ unlocked (16gb) to 400$ and now to 300$...
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It actually started out at $600 for those who just can't wait when a new phone is released. :/ I've sold phones on eBay and Craigslist. As mentioned, you might get a little more from eBay but Craigslist is usually faster. Regarding the shotgun comment, always be sure to meet in a public place and don't give your description until you arrive. Most people are decent and just looking for the item you're selling.
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It's true though that the X has lost more value from release date in 6 months than nearly any other flagship I've ever seen. Yes that's because google and Motorola themselves have dropped the price. But even so, resell value for those who bought on release date has dropped well over 50% in 6 months. That's remarkable. Takes an iPhone about 2 years to lose that much value. Samsung and htc flagships don't drop that fast either, by a long shot.
I'm thinking the major discounts are going to level off...I can't really see Moto selling this phone for less than $300. It's possible it might eventually hit $300 off contract as the standard price, but if you keep your phone in good condition, I would think you would be able to net $200 for it in the summer (so $220-230ish before fees/shipping). That's what I'm hoping at least...
I've never bothered selling an old phone....I gift them to family and friends that have even older phones.
But, based on current prices of the Moto x, I'd say we won't be getting too much selling them used later. I've seen used nexus 4's for almost the same as used Moto x's.....
Guess we'll see later.
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After I got the Moto X, I sold my previous phone (the HTC Rezound) on eBay for $80 (although I included 2 spare batteries, and had it S-OFF with an unlocked bootloader).
That phone was in rough shape, and heavily used. I think $100 will be the absolute minimum the Moto X would go for. A nice, thin 4G phone with great battery life? You won't get $250 in July, but it'll still hold up pretty well.
One problem I see is with bizarro color combinations, and the effect that will have on resale value.
DogzOfWar said:
After I got the Moto X, I sold my previous phone (the HTC Rezound) on eBay for $80 (although I included 2 spare batteries, and had it S-OFF with an unlocked bootloader).
That phone was in rough shape, and heavily used. I think $100 will be the absolute minimum the Moto X would go for. A nice, thin 4G phone with great battery life? You won't get $250 in July, but it'll still hold up pretty well.
One problem I see is with bizarro color combinations, and the effect that will have on resale value.
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Never thought of that. LOL. Moto makers will be a tough sell. They'd have to like the color combination to even consider it. Personally if I saw a wood back phone in the classifieds, I'd be hitting the back button before I read a thing. No matter the price. Lol
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Get a nexus 5. I was one of the first to buy. I just sold it on eBay for 399.95. It cost me about 50 bucks for a few months which basically was tax and shipping. Chances are you'll like it enough to keep it.
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It's true though that the X has lost more value from release date in 6 months than nearly any other flagship I've ever seen. Yes that's because google and Motorola themselves have dropped the price. But even so, resell value for those who bought on release date has dropped well over 50% in 6 months. That's remarkable. Takes an iPhone about 2 years to lose that much value. Samsung and htc flagships don't drop that fast either, by a long shot.
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Definitely not true. Prior to the price drops, 16GB Moto X's could be found on swappa for roughly 450 dollars. Roughly about the same price on ebay, but I was able to snag a very lucky BIN for $400 for a 16gb back in November.
If you look at the most recent sold listings on swappa, most of them are still in the $350 range, which is plenty good considering they had their huge fire sale for $350 a month ago AND the $300 sale the other day.
Phones that are usually subsidized by the carriers and that are actually POPULAR, like the HTC One or S4, usually sell for much less at this point in time. Look on swappa's listings of sold S4s, they're all low 300s. Granted the phone has been out longer, but that's nearly a 250-300 drop in value. The X's used price hasn't changed very much in comparison, given that Moto dropped the price over 150 dollars over the past couple months.
That my friend is supply and demand. There isn't an abundance of used x's like every other phone yet. I don't even think Motorola sold that many new lol. Up until a few days ago second hand was the only way to get them overseas. Now that's not the case so I still say the prices will drop, but you're still better buying and selling at full price than subsidizing with Verizon or at&t. Especially if you switch every few months.
For the op however, I reiterate... Nexus 5
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kj2112 said:
Never thought of that. LOL. Moto makers will be a tough sell. They'd have to like the color combination to even consider it. Personally if I saw a wood back phone in the classifieds, I'd be hitting the back button before I read a thing. No matter the price. Lol
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Say wut? This might be the only the chance to have a wood grain in your lifetime! Lol. I am knocking on wood come saturday!
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Say wut? This might be the only the chance to have a wood grain in your lifetime! Lol. I am knocking on wood come saturday!
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I want my technology to look ...um ....techy.....not like something out of Gilligan's island or spongebob.
But to each their own.
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You can call it techy if you want, I call it mass produced plastic.

Samsung is not honoring its Galaxy S8 $200 trade-in discount for many customers

Hi, you probably read this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...e-discount-many-leaving-customers-frustrated/
I am still waiting for my Galaxy S8 to arrive(Monday) and after receiving will need to send in my old trade-in device. Did any one have their trade-in denied or accepted? I know that Samsung values the rejected trade-in as $25 and isn't returning the old phone back to the customer even if they return the new phone.
I was planning on sending in a Note 2. It's in very good condition, with box and charger. I figured that may increase my chances of the $200 trade in offer.
I don't understand the appeal it would be more cost effective to sell your phone and then use that money towards the s8 instead of relying on Samsung's judgement on what is acceptable and what isn't.
I really don't feel bad for the ones buying cheap phones and trying to turn them in for 200 and only getting 25
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I don't understand the appeal it would be more cost effective to sell your phone and then use that money towards the s8 instead of relying on Samsung's judgement on what is acceptable and what isn't.
I really don't feel bad for the ones buying cheap phones and trying to turn them in for 200 and only getting 25
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I have an old LG Optimus which is still in good condition and if Samsung won't accept it, I hope they at least give $25 back and I can always return the S8 back to them. The question is: will they give $25 back even if returning the Galaxy S8?
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I really don't feel bad for the ones buying cheap phones and trying to turn them in for 200 and only getting 25
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What's life like when everyone hates you?
I thought that trade-in was if you delivered an galaxy S7. When playstation 4 got out there was a deal like that, but in truth you had to deliver an Playstation 3 and 6 recent games to have a decent discount.
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I thought that trade-in was if you delivered an galaxy S7. When playstation 4 got out there was a deal like that, but in truth you had to deliver an Playstation 3 and 6 recent games to have a decent discount.
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You get more money for the S7 ($300 I think) but it clearly stated $200 for ANY smartphone in really good condition. If you read the small print it basically said trade in values may vary. That means they pulled a fast one and are giving almost everyone $25. Once you've traded it in you're screwed because you'll get $25 and you can't get your old phone back. So trade in a phone worth nothing, at least you'll get $25 for it.
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You get more money for the S7 ($300 I think) but it clearly stated $200 for ANY smartphone in really good condition. If you read the small print it basically said trade in values may vary. That means they pulled a fast one and are giving almost everyone $25. Once you've traded it in you're screwed because you'll get $25 and you can't get your old phone back. So trade in a phone worth nothing, at least you'll get $25 for it.
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Ah, ok. Thank you. Just a marketing move. For 25$ not even my Galaxy S3
Did anyone return items back to Samsung? This is the return policy, is it actually true: "Samsung Direct will accept, for return or exchange, defective or unopened merchandise purchased at Samsung.com/US..." So I can't open the Galaxy S8 if I want to return it?
Here is my personal experience. I ordered the S8 directly from Samsung. First the deal was $100 off, from $725 to $625. Then $200 with trade-in. I sent them my LeEco LeMax 2. I had always kept it a case and the screen was perfect. No scratches on the phone. They honored the deal, and I paid $425 for my S8. Actually $457 with tax. It did state in the fine print that they reserve the right to make the final judgement, so they could say this phone wasn't eligible, but I personally think this has more to do with people trying to pull a fast one by purchasing a cheap Walmart phone for $50-$100 and returning it for a $200 discount. If you are honest with them, they are honest with you. They want people to come back to Samsung. The overall sales numbers for the S8 has been down after last years fiasco with the Note. They are not looking to create another public relations fiasco.
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Here is my personal experience. I ordered the S8 directly from Samsung. First the deal was $100 off, from $725 to $625. Then $200 with trade-in. I sent them my LeEco LeMax 2. I had always kept it a case and the screen was perfect. No scratches on the phone. They honored the deal, and I paid $425 for my S8. Actually $457 with tax. It did state in the fine print that they reserve the right to make the final judgement, so they could say this phone wasn't eligible, but I personally think this has more to do with people trying to pull a fast one by purchasing a cheap Walmart phone for $50-$100 and returning it for a $200 discount. If you are honest with them, they are honest with you. They want people to come back to Samsung. The overall sales numbers for the S8 has been down after last years fiasco with the Note. They are not looking to create another public relations fiasco.
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Thanks for your input! I have the same deal as yours and my new phone should arrive today. I do have an old LG Optimus which I would rate 8/9 out of 10 easily. Practically no scratches in overall, no dings, works perfect and battery life is long too. I could give it to my mom, but she likes her Nokia feature phone as she only calls on it. I just hope that Samsung will honor it because by my understanding it is in good working condition/order.
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I was planning on sending in a Note 2. It's in very good condition, with box and charger. I figured that may increase my chances of the $200 trade in offer.
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Do not send in your device, sell it yourself on eBay instead. I am one of the victims. Samsung.com just robbed my good conditioned, no dents no scratches, S6 edge and just thrown back $25 on my face. While I will buy Samsung products again, I will never do business with Samsung,com USA.
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Do not send in your device, sell it yourself on eBay instead. I am one of the victims. Samsung.com just robbed my good conditioned, no dents no scratches, S6 edge and just thrown back $25 on my face. While I will buy Samsung products again, I will never do business with Samsung,com USA.
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What do you think could be the reason for not honoring your phone?
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You get more money for the S7 ($300 I think) but it clearly stated $200 for ANY smartphone in really good condition. If you read the small print it basically said trade in values may vary. That means they pulled a fast one and are giving almost everyone $25. Once you've traded it in you're screwed because you'll get $25 and you can't get your old phone back. So trade in a phone worth nothing, at least you'll get $25 for it.
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Yes, I am one of the victims. Samsung.com just robbed my good conditioned, no dents no scratches, S6 edge and just thrown back $25 on my face. While I will buy Samsung products again, I will never do business with Samsung,com USA.
Charkatak said:
Thanks for your input! I have the same deal as yours and my new phone should arrive today. I do have an old LG Optimus which I would rate 8/9 out of 10 easily. Practically no scratches in overall, no dings, works perfect and battery life is long too. I could give it to my mom, but she likes her Nokia feature phone as she only calls on it. I just hope that Samsung will honor it because by my understanding it is in good working condition/order.
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When did you order yours? Mine has been on backorder since 6/23.
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When did you order yours? Mine has been on backorder since 6/23.
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I placed the order on June 20th and then after an hour it started showing back-order. There was a delay in shipping and my order shipped on 29th.
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What do you think could be the reason for not honoring your phone?
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They said my S6 edge does not meet the "normal tear and wear" conditions., which, by Samsung standards if they have any, I don't think any devices would pass unless they are brand new.
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Here is my personal experience. I ordered the S8 directly from Samsung. First the deal was $100 off, from $725 to $625. Then $200 with trade-in. I sent them my LeEco LeMax 2. I had always kept it a case and the screen was perfect. No scratches on the phone. They honored the deal, and I paid $425 for my S8. Actually $457 with tax. It did state in the fine print that they reserve the right to make the final judgement, so they could say this phone wasn't eligible, but I personally think this has more to do with people trying to pull a fast one by purchasing a cheap Walmart phone for $50-$100 and returning it for a $200 discount. If you are honest with them, they are honest with you. They want people to come back to Samsung. The overall sales numbers for the S8 has been down after last years fiasco with the Note. They are not looking to create another public relations fiasco.
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Why do morons keep making ridiculous insinuations that the consumers like me were "dishonest" and trying a "scam" ????
SAMSUNG IS THE ONLY SCUMBAG SCAMMING BECAUSE ALL THE PHONES BEING DENIED MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THEY PUT IN WRITING !!!!!!!
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Why do morons keep making ridiculous insinuations that the consumers like me were "dishonest" and trying a "scam" ????
SAMSUNG IS THE ONLY SCUMBAG SCAMMING BECAUSE ALL THE PHONES BEING DENIED MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THEY PUT IN WRITING !!!!!!!
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All I know is I have an S8 for $425. Sounds as though you didn't read everything thoroughly and now your pissed off.
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I was planning on sending in a Note 2. It's in very good condition, with box and charger. I figured that may increase my chances of the $200 trade in offer.
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Here is what I did when ordering an unlocked S8+
They unlocked S8 Plus is normally $850, got it for $470
1. 20% discount for students (search for Samsung student discount). Discount is based on full price.
2. Samsung $100 discount for unlocked phones (not sure if this is still available)
3. $200 trade-in credit
I placed the order last week, direct from Samsung. Website and CSR said it was back ordered 2-3 weeks, but a few days later I received the shipping notification and I received the phone today.
For the trade-in:
1. Called Samsung sales and spoke with a CSR. I confirmed that the $200 trade-in credit applies to a phone that (a) runs any verison of Android or iOS, (b) powers on and holds a charge, (c) does not have a cracked or damaged screen), and (e) has only normal signs of wear-and-tear. I confirmed with the CSR that any phone that meets these requirements would work, no matter how old or cheap. I also verified that minor scratches to the phone's screen or body were considered normal wear and tear and would not cause the trade in to be rejected. Finally, I recorded the phone call in case Samsung doesn't honor the trade-in.
2. With the above in mind, I purchased a brand new Alcatel phone from Walmart for $20. (can't post link, too new).
3. I will be sending the phone back to them tomorrow and I'll see what they do.
Other notes from my conversation with the CSR:
* Samsung's return policy is that items may be returned within 30 days. You have 15 days from *receipt* to initiate the return, and Samsung must receive the item within another 15 days.
* Officially, the item must be unopened to receive a full refund. Opened items are subject to a 15% restocking fee. The CSR told me that is is noramlly uncommon for Samsung to charge the restocking fee for items (even opened ones) that are returned in excellent condition, with all original accessories.
So far I like the phone, but not sure if I will be keeping it or exchanging it for a normal S8. I'm also not thrilled with the absence of a way to unlock the bootloader. This is my first experience with a Samsung phone and I kinds of just assumed that like my ZTE, an unlocked, non-carrier phone would have the bootloader accessible.

Essential $200 Price Drop ?

https://www.essential.com/?gclid=Cj...-tZAiWGOdIM65_rADjEYaPnEq0aAs0tEALw_wcB#order
I want my $200 back !
I hear theres supposed to be a $200 dollar credit towards more merchandise but I cant find it on the site.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/22/e...200-price-drop-existing-customers-get-credit/
So is this phone now a buy at 499$?
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I just emailed them asking how to register for the rebate.
I'll report back if/when I get a return email.
About 30% off. At $500 it's the best budget phone . Even the OP5 128GB is $538
To get the $200 coupon, you need to fill out the form by Nov 15th: https://www.essential.com/pages/friends-and-family-offer.
Coupons expire Dec 15th.
(Psst, wouldn't mind if somebody sent me a code as a thanks for digging the form up. . Been looking to upgrade from my 5X.)
EDIT: Just some clarification, this is separate from the $200 price drop on the Essential Phone. Combined with the friends and family coupon, you can pick up a new PH-1 for $300. You can also use the $200 friends and family coupon on the 360 camera as well.
At $499 I look at the 128GB Essential phone as the next gen true successor to the Nexus 6P, and I am going to buy it this week. The Pixel 2 XL @ $950 is nearly double the price, and absolutely insanely overpriced for what you get compared to the Essential. They share nearly the same hardware, except the water resistance, and the 2 XL being larger of course with bigger battery. But the build quality on the Essential is supposed to be like best ever for Android phones.
And I dare say the Essential OS is AOSP, and seems almost more pure Android than where Google is taking these Pixel phones, if you get my understanding. The Pixel line sort of forked off a little different, than where the Nexus phones were going, and Essential is more back to that version of pure Android.
Knufire said:
To get the $200 coupon, you need to fill out the form by Nov 15th: https://www.essential.com/pages/friends-and-family-offer.
Coupons expire Dec 15th.
(Psst, wouldn't mind if somebody sent me a code as a thanks for digging the form up. . Been looking to upgrade from my 5X.)
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I’d be willing to give you my code. Pm me
Pity it didn't start off at this price. It is tempting but the question is, how long with Essential stick around?
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I’d be willing to give you my code. Pm me
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Is anyone else feeling generous? It would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!!
it might be a good deal if you are not on the Verizon network, where the phone is not capable of supporting VoLTE or any of the advanced features that pretty much every phone Verizon sells supports. That means you will not be able to have simultaneous voice and data.
I thought people got volte working by toggling some settings on and off on the phone itself as well as on their VzW acct online.
If anyone can spare a code, I'd definitely be interested in getting a ph-1 to tinker and try to find some more answers on the slow TMobile speeds.
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Wow that dropped in price quickly, tbh after testing the phone I think price is about right.
I was pretty disappointed with the phone, seemed like a rushed job. Battery life poor, camera okish, speakers low
Design great, material good, software to bare!
Fortunately I returned mine as it a fault.
At £440 it's worth another shot in green or white
If anyone has a spare coupon which will not use, do not let it waste. PM it instead
can any one give me code ? pls ?
Another Code?
Does anybody would like to send me his spare code please?:fingers-crossed:
Knufire said:
To get the $200 coupon, you need to fill out the form by Nov 15th: https://www.essential.com/pages/friends-and-family-offer.
Coupons expire Dec 15th.
(Psst, wouldn't mind if somebody sent me a code as a thanks for digging the form up. . Been looking to upgrade from my 5X.)
EDIT: Just some clarification, this is separate from the $200 price drop on the Essential Phone. Combined with the friends and family coupon, you can pick up a new PH-1 for $300. You can also use the $200 friends and family coupon on the 360 camera as well.
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I already got the camera.
It would be nice to be able to use the code to get a charging pad.
But at the very least I'll get another phone, a white one this time.
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it might be a good deal if you are not on the Verizon network, where the phone is not capable of supporting VoLTE or any of the advanced features that pretty much every phone Verizon sells supports. That means you will not be able to have simultaneous voice and data.
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VoLTE is working fine for me on VZW.
I'm thrilled about this deal. I'm going to order a phone for my wife. We usually swap phones after about a year anyway, so I'm not concerned if they end up going under.
If someone has a spare $200 code they're willing to give. PM me please
Guys, if someone got his code, would you please give it to me?! (if you're not willing to buy another product from essential's website)
At 299$ it's a bargain, as I'm willing to import it with the help of a friend. Thank you

Pixe 2 XL discounts. Wait for Black Friday???!

I am in on the pixel 2 XL 128GB.. I really want a google unlocked version so I can root it I ever choose to do so, but if Verizon has a great deal that saves me $500 or so, I’d just take that one. Rooting capability isn’t worth that much to me. Right now Verizon has a 1/2 off deal if you trade in certain phone. One is a motor z force, so I picked one up on eBay just to trade in. It was $150. After all the trade in and taxes I’d end up saving only $280 or so, but still that’s a lot. The half you save is reimbursed which I’m not crazy about either. This sale expires Saturday. I still haven’t seen any Black Friday leaks on this phone. Should I take the chance and wait for next week to see if there is an online BF deal for half off? Last year I think there was some confusion on whether that deal actually included the XL. Not crazy about the reimbursement pry either. That makes me wonder if I should just get it from google. Is there any chance google will have a deal?
Schroeder09 said:
I am in on the pixel 2 XL 128GB.. I really want a google unlocked version so I can root it I ever choose to do so, but if Verizon has a great deal that saves me $500 or so, I’d just take that one. Rooting capability isn’t worth that much to me. Right now Verizon has a 1/2 off deal if you trade in certain phone. One is a motor z force, so I picked one up on eBay just to trade in. It was $150. After all the trade in and taxes I’d end up saving only $280 or so, but still that’s a lot. The half you save is reimbursed which I’m not crazy about either. This sale expires Saturday. I still haven’t seen any Black Friday leaks on this phone. Should I take the chance and wait for next week to see if there is an online BF deal for half off? Last year I think there was some confusion on whether that deal actually included the XL. Not crazy about the reimbursement pry either. That makes me wonder if I should just get it from google. Is there any chance google will have a deal?
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I bought a 2 XL at Verizon yesterday, he had no info, but said he doubted black Friday would bring a deal better than the one available now.
So needless to say ya won’t be rooting?
Last year they had half off and you didn’t have to trade in. With all the flack the phone has been taking i wondered if they’d have the same or better deal. Wondering if I should just get a note 8
I'm waiting.. my iPhone 7+ was already worth $425 when I asked them last, and that was pure trade in credit. I can sell it on my own for more and would probably prefer to hold onto it incase I have to return and re-activate it. I could see a BOGO deal setup for BF.
Well I have an old galaxy s4 that isn’t worth anything. I can’t trade it in because it’s too old, and I can’t sell it for much either. I bought this z force to trade in. Seems like a good phone. All the software seems like the pixel 2’s. The cameras don’t seem any better than my s4’s though, and that’s disappointing. As is with all motorola’s, the battery life seems HORENDOUS to the point of being laughable.
Any other input?

USA Pre-order thread

Just ordered from sammy.com. Got the 16g/512. Got the buds and case with the $200 credit.
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Same here. With 1200 points ($6 LOL) I just squeaked under $1k out of pocket after taxes. That's a whole lot of greenbacks AFTER turning in a hardly used Note 10+ 512GB.
I saw Flossy Carter's unboxing vid last night and noticed it did NOT include the 45W charger. Pretty lame considering the asking price.
p.s. I got everything in black, phone, Buds+ and the rugged carrying case. I had like $10 extra in store credit but let it go as there was nothing more that I felt like putting it towards. The 1200 points I believe was from the Note 10+ I bought prior. This order gave me 1730 ish points. Not even enough for a whopper meal. Oh well...
Made my preorder through samsung. Debating whether to check out best buy. There should be an additional 50 bucks off, or more.
Anyone made their preorder through Best Buy?
S20 Ultra, 128, Cosmic Grey, Unlocked.
$50 off at Best Buy is when you activate at time of purchase. Have to activate through carrier account. Not worth the trouble particularly if the number is on an esim of another device. I always get unactivated unlocked and toss in my SIM of choice. Matter of personal preference.
Then, of course, there is the issue with Best Buy screwing up orders, doing in store pick up and going to the store on release day and there's no phone to pick up!
Ever see Planes, Trains, and Automobiles? When Neil (Steve Martin) goes to pick up his rental car and there's no car there?
Just ordered mine. S20 ultra, 128, Grey, Tmobile. I'm turning in a S10+ Used the $225 to get Buds+ and a couple of the Samsung flip wallets to check out. I'm gonna be in Las Vegas for a week next month. Can't wait to put the camera to the test in Zion National Park.
1st time pre-order from Samsung. What's nice is the instant $600 trade in for my pixel4xl. It also knocks down price instantly saving some more $ on tax. Free buds and flip cover too. Not bad for $799. I only paid $600 for my pixel 4xl 4 mos ago. No brainier. Here's hoping I get it before March 6th.
Edit...lame that Samsung doesn't give the bonus $25 for only the ultra. Wtf Samsung?
Pre-ordered the 512gb/16 gig ram Ultra through Tmobile and added an extra line (S20 in blue) to take advantage of their BOGO (up to $999) promo.
Here's where things get murky and maybe someone can clarify:
I am trading in my Note 9 which they will be giving me $500 in an e-virtual card. I also qualify for the Samsung credit ($200 for the Ultra and $100 for the S20) for a total of $800.00
So, with the free S20 ($999), $500 trade in (Note 9) and the $300 Samsung credit I will be receing a total of $1799 off the two phones.
Am I missing anything else with T-Mobile? Only reason I ask is because the rep I spoke to said I would be getting a 215 trade in credit monthly for the line with the Ultra phone. Then she says I will be getting a $500 virtual card that I can use to pay towards the equipment.
To me it seems like a really good deal. With tax I'm pretty much getting the 2 phones for about $1250 after you add the $10 a month for the extra line (which I still have a S9+ that I can always use as my new landline at home).
I got the unlocked 512gb version. Only comes in black so I got black. Traded in my Note 10+ + got the $235 credit with which I got the buds and some case I'll never use, lol
yeah I ordered the the Black 512gb/16gb tmobile from Samsung`s website at 12:08 am this morning, I originally did the reserve pre-order thing, and got another 35.00 plus the 200.00 towards something at check out, so I selected the active watch 2 44mm aqua black, with the white galaxy buds+, which I`ll probably just turn around and resell the the buds., also I did the trade in for pixel 4 xl for 600.00., also the 35.00 credit I got later in a email from samsung so I can use it on there site for accessories
Phone looks okay but I will stick with note 10+ it's not worth the extra money
wepa said:
Phone looks okay but I will stick with note 10+ it's not worth the extra money
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For you maybe. Camera is way better than 10+, 120hz screen is way better, and flatter screen. So IMO much better.
Website not even letting me order and most cases etc all gone.
At least on ATT. On phone and desktop.
Awesome.....maybe I'll just skip it too...Sammy is always such a freaking mess ordering from.
reefur said:
Website not even letting me order and most cases etc all gone.
At least on ATT. On phone and desktop.
Awesome.....maybe I'll just skip it too...Sammy is always such a freaking mess ordering from.
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You waited too long. Pre order has been open for 16hrs
reefur said:
Website not even letting me order and most cases etc all gone.
At least on ATT. On phone and desktop.
Awesome.....maybe I'll just skip it too...Sammy is always such a freaking mess ordering from.
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Yea by noon, the 512 gb Ultra for TMobile was sold out on Samsung.com 128 was still available.
Unlocked version had both 128 and 512 versions. Imo the Ultra 512 gb will be on backorder for awhile until the demand dies down.
Another 5% off at Samsung.com order with code: ref-2z2fpe
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You waited too long. Pre order has been open for 16hrs
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Yep....ATT wouldn't release my account til 3am....didn't work then either.
Probably just me.... No loss I'm sure for Sammy.... I'll wait for the Note or other.....while I search for another carrier.
Make sure to get Rakuten 10 percent off. So good
I haven’t ordered a phone direct from Samsung on release in awhile, any chance of getting them earlier than the March 6th date?
Vaelin Al Sorna said:
I haven’t ordered a phone direct from Samsung on release in awhile, any chance of getting them earlier than the March 6th date?
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From what I have heard maybe a day or two Max.
Preordered S20U 128 gb in the at&t flavor. I need the branded version, I make good use of wifi calling. I'm in some areas with poor or no service and wifi calling is awesome. It works on my unlocked Pixels but has never worked on an unlocked Samsung phone.

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