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The other day I was cruising around amazon looking for an unlocked smartphone. I came across the BLU Studio X, the specs were striking similar to the Moto G 2nd gen with some better assets. With The Same 5.0" HD Display (720 x 1280) 294ppi, 8gb internal storage, 1gb of ram, 8mp primary camera [2mp front], and android lollipop. Also with some better assets like: a 1.3Ghz processor vs the 1.2Ghz processor on the G, expandable storage up to 64gb oppose to the 32gb limit on the G, 1080p video recording vs only 720p on The Moto G, 4G HSPA+ (Not Lte), Wi-Fi Direct, Dual Sim and a slightly lager battery of 2100 mAh for about $125 unlocked. But that's not even the phone I wanted to talk about. The real "game changer" here is the BLU Studio C 2015 Edition. Its pack the exact same punch as the BLU Studio X, but just at $99 Unlocked! Did I forget to mention that the BLU Studio C 2015 has a 3,000 mAh battery ?! It must be bulkier than the G right? Wrong! the BLU Studio C 2015 Is Only 9.4mm thick. 1.6 Thinner than the Moto G. Crazy right ? basically if your purchase this device you'll be getting a not-so-Motorola Moto G 2nd gen with slightly better perks and assests and a huge battery.
What am I losing?: The fact that its a Motorola (moto suite), dual front facing speakers, corning gorilla glass 3*, 1ppi
What am I gaining?: a 0.1 clock speed gain, up to 64gb expandable storage, dual sim, 1080p video recording, 4G HSPA+, Wi-Fi Direct, A 930 mAh battery gain, earphones, micro usb charging unit, free case,*comes with screen protector, phone comes in 6 different colors and $79 less you have to spend. ships with lollipop.note (the studio c 2015 has 293ppi)
Don't get me wrong I love the Moto series, but this phone really does put a road block in front of of the Moto G 2nd Gen.
Product website - http://www.bluproducts.com/index.php/studio-c
Purchase the Studio C 2015 - http://www.amazon.com/BLU-5-0-Inch-...TF8&qid=1432047643&sr=8-1&keywords=B00WN7L4IA
And because of MTK you gain no updates ever.
Also mtk performance is lower than snapdragon.
About SD card I've use my transcend 64gb microsd in the moto g and works fine
Its an MTK device, you only will have luck with MTK if you buy an Android One. also the GPU is pretty bad.
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I agree that the qualcomm s4 is better than the MTK
And 64gb sd-cards a well supported by the Moto G. I woudn´t want to change....
It seems to not available here in the Netherlands... Besides Motorola is a much better supported brand!
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
motoinspri said:
Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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If you are talking about the processor, i was not saying that MTK6582 is has a bad performance, i believe it have the same performance as our Snapdragon 400, or close to it, a little less, can be. As for the GPU, Mali-400 is a pretty bad GPU today, if the site is right, its not even a Mali-400MP2 (the GPU used on the Galaxy S3), Mali-400 was the Galaxy S2 GPU, so its a 4 years old GPU. But i believe its a new version of this GPU, if its not, then its really bad.
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Everybody disregard this thread. I purchased the Studio C and its absolutely terrible, its a bad phone overall. it feels extremely cheap. the screen touch isn't accurate. you can even see the layers within the display. this phone is a gimmick. it looks absolute great on paper for a budget smartphone, but doesn't meet the expectations at all. the only thing that is impressive is the 3,000 mAh battery. nothing else ... I would rather spend $79 more bucks for a phone inessentially the same specs besides the slightly better chipset than save $79 for a deceiving phone that is terrible. you Moto G owners made a great choice, its the best budget smartphone to date.
I've tried out similar devices. The lack of support due to the closed source chip sets is depressing. Always choose a device with open source and good support
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if you need better phone for the same price, look on Amazon Fire Phone ($179 on sale)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone
Gorilla glass 3 alone is worth the extra $ of the Moto G 2014, imo.
well if put like this,then there are a lot of phones with higher specs and low prices than moto
but the thing is that primarily we do not get any good support in lieu of software
build quality is mostly low and even problematic with hardware
So to say I'm happy with my little moto,its quality and devs here:good:
Avoid BLU!
I fell for a Blu phone, it was a Studio 5 I think. It was riddled with bugs and in a year there was not one update. Everyone was clamoring for the kit-kat update they had promised for the phone. The date came and went. Finally, the president of Blu said in an interview that if you want an update just buy a new phone. I bought the moto g and recycled the blu.
Mediatek?
No, thanks...
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I went for a Blu Studio 5.5 last year to replace my windows work phone, support sucked never got the promised Kitkat update, replaced it with a moto g 2014 and never looked back and was one of the first devices to get lollipop.
You want an alternative to a moto G 2014? Buy an asus zenfone 2 for $199 and get way better specs than your blu phone and the moto g 2014 combined nuff said.
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Hye, guys.
Today im going to share my experience switching. So basically ive had my moto g for roughly 1 year and a half and its been okay. batt life good, lollipop good but i really hated the camera and the 1gb ram soooo much. I have over 100 apps on my phone and I frequently use the phone to browse the web, switch to whatsapp, then to music play, and lastly the camera + gallery, and as you might imagine, the browser redraws quite a bit. Not everytime, but sometimes so it got kinda annoying.
I tried:
- going for cm12.1 - was a good experience - got too eliminate redraws but at the expense of laggines
-using the advanced motorola cameraq settings - but it remained kinda lackluster
Motivated by that I went around the internetz to see wether there'd be a phone ( a cheap phone) with 2gb ram and at least a processor on par with the moto g and voila came the Redmi Note 4G. I got for really cheap and im using it right now.
Now here's the part where i share my experience with the Redmi Note 4G;
- it runs 4.4.4 kitkat 9( I know, ancient)
-no launcher-broswer-other app redraws (2GB ram)
-heats up a lot when you use it WHILE charging - heats a bit during other tasks - solved it by rooting and going down to 1.1 ghz from 1.6ghz
-the camera is lackluster too LOL (but significantly better than the moto g's) - but it got okay when i snapped using burst mode (just like our moto g)
-Almost zero development Lol
-kernel sources are out but very problematic (missing camera code)
the thing about MIUIV6 is its a beautiful interface and I like it a lot. back when my moto g had cm12.1, I went for days looking for a good theme so this kinda made me feel like the purchase was worth it. Do I like the Redmi Note 4G? Yes. I wish The moto g had 2gb of Ram, 2gb expandable storage, and a better camera or else i wouldn't have switched to be honest. it was a good run with the moto g and I still love it and its form factor. NOTHING feels better than holding Moto G to be honest. I hope moto makes the right desicion by adding more ram and expandable storage to the moto g ver. 3. I'll absolutely switch to that when its available.
So thats the my experience switching from a moto g to a redmi note 4g (snapdragon 400, 2gb ram, 1.6ghz)
tldr
-Both are cheap phones with their own set of probs
-Love the moto g for its android updates
-love the Redmi Note for its 2gb RAM and beautiful interface
-The thing that motivated me was the redmi's better camera, ram and expandable storage
-had a good time with the moto g
-hope to have a good time with the redmi.
-its so hard to find a phone with 2gb ram at this price point.
I hope lollipop MIUI comes out eventually lol
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
I think that Xiaomi Mi4C is pretty good competitor. Dimensions are almost the same. Mi4C has a bigger battery, a bit faster processor (SD808), usb type-C and IR blaster. However, OnePlus X has Amoled screen and sd-card slot (and 800Mhz LTE for EU users). I think that OnePlus X has also better OS and perharps longer update support.
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
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rp3 said:
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
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+1 I think former flagships are a great alternative, since most of them continue on to become great mid-range phones.
Unfortunately, the Nexus 5 isn't available new anymore, except for the occasional eBay auction.
The Xperia Z3 Compact clearly isn't a ~5" device.
LG G2/G3 can be considered as rivals too !
No LTE in USA!, fingerprint scanner, nfc, ois....what is oneplus thinking? With this trend of lacking necessary features and increasing prices, it's doubtful oneplus will ever be more than a small player.
i would say Mi 4C would be the main competitor, with SD808, Wifi AC, bigger battery, and IR Blaster in its favour
OPX has AMOLED, Metal build, and MicroSD in its favour though
i would say the bigger battery and Wifi AC will hurt the OPX more than the chipset difference, apparently SD808 and SD801 CPU performance is about the same, though Adreno 418 is about 20% better than 330, even though Adreno 330 is "enough" for 1080p screens (quotation bcz enough is very subjective)
I'm having a real struggle here :/
Mi4c is missing band 20 LTE which rules out O2 in the UK
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It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
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It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
LTE Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Source. OnePlus.net
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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gabling23 said:
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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Plus x has SAMOLED , which is a strong point in itself. Also, SAMOLED means more battery life.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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Oh that's right. However, I am on AT&T network, so I care only about the band 17 right now, which OnePlus One supports. Anyways, with crippled LTE band support, the X is kind of a lousy proposition IMHO.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
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In my opinion, the Asus Zenfone 2 and its derivatives is definitely a rival. My understanding is that the Intel-based Asus Zenfone 2 has very good SoC performance, probably above the Snapdragon 801, but below average battery life, screen brightness, and camera software. The Snapdragon 615 based Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same). Considering that both Zenfones start at $200 and have proper LTE support, they're definitely in the game. Moto G falls approximately into the same performance bracket at Zenfone 2 laser (actually slower a bit), but has class leading battery performance.
Another possibility, why not consider some of the discontinued Snapdragon 800/801 based smartphones? Considering the Snapdragon 808/810 fiasco, I think those are well worth checking out. For example you can find on eBay NEW and unlocked LG G2 (SD 800, no sd card) for around $160, Nexus 5 (SD800, no SD) for $180-200, LG G3 (SD 801, sd card) for $230, or Samsung Galaxy S5 (SD801, sd card) for just under $300. All of these roughly fall into the same performance bracket at OnePlus One/X, but offer specific versions with the LTE Band 17 used by AT&T in USA that the OnePlus X lacks.
And finally, speaking of Nexus 5X, early reviews suggest it's not all that great or the kind of a diamond in rough that Nexus 5 or OnePlus One used to be, in part thanks the slow storage performance because of the new encryption scheme and once again thanks to the SD808. Considering the price of the base Nexus 5X, I think you could do better with buying a OnePlus 2, which has all the same specs but more memory and slightly faster SoC.
Anandtech has a very thorough review of 5X:
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review
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The Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same).
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I can attest to the Zenfone 2 Laser's battery life. It has an insane capacity! One of my friends just bought the ZF2 Laser, and he constantly gets around 9-10 hrs SoT. And it's not even as if he keeps the screen on doing nothing, he puts it through light to moderate usage - playing light games, browsing, whatsapp, etc with wi-fi on the whole day, but the damn thing just keeps on going!
As far as the performance is concerned, the SD410 is doing a very satisfactory job. So far I've not seen any slowdowns/lags/stuttering whatsoever. So its going pretty smooth as of now.
What about the Huawei Honor 7? It has similar specs and also the price is almost the same (at least in Europe - 270 EUR vs. 300 EUR).
While we compare, what is the software update record of Asus, Huawei, Acer etc? I think Oneplus is going to support their devices for longer than any of those
Currently have a Nexus 5, not sure if it was right to "upgrade". Damn I am gonna miss wireless charging
it is not "upgrade". it is a "sidegrade"
The yu yutopia when it releases with SD 810 at the price of ₹21,000 32gb
Stop suggesting 5.5 phablets. This thread is about 5 in Phones.
Hi,
Im looking to buy a new phone but im worried which to choose lg g4 h818 (no bootloader) or the oneplus 2 (chinese variant) btw i live in KSA.
Lg g4 pros:
Curved QHD screen
Removable battery
Leather back
Awesome camera
Cons:
No bootloader unlock
No fingerprint
3gb ram rather than 4 gb
Oneplus 2
Pros:
4gb ram
Fingerprint sensor
Loads of roms
Cons:
Chinese version
Full hd screen rather than qhd
Has been rumored of heating issues
Pls help me out
Well you seem to know both pro's and con's of both these devices... Now it's entirely up to you to decide which one will suit you better
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I was between the same devices.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr3 vs lpddr4, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing [emoji4] .
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never use it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.
Happy new year! Hope you can make the best decision, cheers.
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Best stock experience g4
If you're not afraid of tweaking then go for op2
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I sent an LGG4 back and bought a Oneplus Two and although the LG was a nice enough phone battery life was abysmal and don't worry about Qhd v Fhd I actually preferred the Fhd and you get much better battery life
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I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife. But with the applications updates and time passing, the 16 Gb of memory is simply not enough anymore for my usage.
I would like to find a replacement phone similar to my Jiayu with at least 32 Gb of memory and 4 Gb of ROM. The new phone should be dual sim (I work and live in two countries), compatible with European 4G, provide an extension for a memory card (that doesn't use a sim slot) and be easily rootable (I'm an IT engineer, so this is a must). The price should also be less then 300€ (my Jiayu S3 costed me less than 200€, with accessories and shipment included).
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72917904
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nidget said:
I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife.
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
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It's a tough one. Been looking too for some upgrade after 2+ years of S3 use but there is always one or two things that you have to sacrifice - NFC, separate mSD slot, or sometimes B20 frequency on 4G network. For me, an upgrade from S3 would be a minimum of 4/64GB and 4000 mAh battery. I was looking for a larger screen also (Mi Max 2 with 6.44" is my favorite, although no NFC) and also some od Redmi Note series or some LeEco 5.7" models. Oh, and there is Lenovo P2 but it's not so much of an upgrade.
I like the idea of discussing next phone. We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development. Next, we inevitably also focus on some different parameters (money, size, functionality, ...).
Personally, money is not the main obstacle, and, I would like a big 6.5" phone (and if needed at all : a 17" tablet) . Actually: for big screen Android experience I prefer a TV box (and dual boot LE for fun), so I probably do not need a tablet.
So, right now, I have hope for 'Huawei Honor Note 9' or 'Xiaomi Mi Mix 2' but -only- if some minimal, say, Google -style ROM can be built. If not then I would be equally happy with a big size madOS supported Mediatek device with excellent specs and support (just like my beloved JYS3s). Or, ideally: a OnePlus 6+ (6.5" phone).
For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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Vernee Apollo looks OK. I want more than 6" next phone. But that's just my wish.
What do you guys think of the Ulefone T1, is it any good and will it be supported bij MAD or other team?
Umidigi S2 Pro?
I think next week I will be ordering Mi Max 2, after 2.5 years of Jiayu S3. It's still running fine so I will probably keep it as backup (and to test Oreo if it comes in near future , but I decided it's time for a bigger screen and much better battery with QC3, which is one of the principal reasons for upgrade...
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We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development.
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Exactly. It's a critical advantage for the (more advanced) users to also have open source ROMs available.
antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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On paper, it's trully amazing. But it's not been released yet (it will be in a few days)..
Ulefone T1 ?
Vernee Mix 2 ?
Vernee Apollo 2 or LeEco LE MAX 3 I want to see them soon in reviews. Good screen, power and design
antonioantuan said:
Umidigi S2 Pro?
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
antonioantuan said:
Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
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Why did you change your mind?
Those two phones dont look as good as the Umidigi S2 Pro in my opinion.
And slightly better specs dont care to me, am not going to play heavy games.
Personally I've moved from Mediatek devices, got a Le Max 2 and it's a big step camera wise. Mediatek devices promise a lot but these Chinese companies fail to deliver on the specs. They keep bragging about the image sensor because they know they're not going to optimize the image quality.
Outside of MAD there's not really any development going on for Mediatek devices, and Mediatek seems to have given up on high-performance SoCs (X30 was a big flop), so it'll be the boring octa-core A53s for next year. You can find decent Qualcomm devices for the same price, and you'll get custom roms.
nidget said:
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
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This ticks a lot of boxes for me but it is missing NFC.