[Discussion] How does the OnePlus X compare to its main rivals? - OnePlus X General

By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?

I think that Xiaomi Mi4C is pretty good competitor. Dimensions are almost the same. Mi4C has a bigger battery, a bit faster processor (SD808), usb type-C and IR blaster. However, OnePlus X has Amoled screen and sd-card slot (and 800Mhz LTE for EU users). I think that OnePlus X has also better OS and perharps longer update support.

Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
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rp3 said:
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
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+1 I think former flagships are a great alternative, since most of them continue on to become great mid-range phones.
Unfortunately, the Nexus 5 isn't available new anymore, except for the occasional eBay auction.
The Xperia Z3 Compact clearly isn't a ~5" device.

LG G2/G3 can be considered as rivals too !

No LTE in USA!, fingerprint scanner, nfc, ois....what is oneplus thinking? With this trend of lacking necessary features and increasing prices, it's doubtful oneplus will ever be more than a small player.

i would say Mi 4C would be the main competitor, with SD808, Wifi AC, bigger battery, and IR Blaster in its favour
OPX has AMOLED, Metal build, and MicroSD in its favour though
i would say the bigger battery and Wifi AC will hurt the OPX more than the chipset difference, apparently SD808 and SD801 CPU performance is about the same, though Adreno 418 is about 20% better than 330, even though Adreno 330 is "enough" for 1080p screens (quotation bcz enough is very subjective)
I'm having a real struggle here :/

Mi4c is missing band 20 LTE which rules out O2 in the UK
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It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.

Akopps said:
It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
LTE Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Source. OnePlus.net

What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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gabling23 said:
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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Plus x has SAMOLED , which is a strong point in itself. Also, SAMOLED means more battery life.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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Oh that's right. However, I am on AT&T network, so I care only about the band 17 right now, which OnePlus One supports. Anyways, with crippled LTE band support, the X is kind of a lousy proposition IMHO.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
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In my opinion, the Asus Zenfone 2 and its derivatives is definitely a rival. My understanding is that the Intel-based Asus Zenfone 2 has very good SoC performance, probably above the Snapdragon 801, but below average battery life, screen brightness, and camera software. The Snapdragon 615 based Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same). Considering that both Zenfones start at $200 and have proper LTE support, they're definitely in the game. Moto G falls approximately into the same performance bracket at Zenfone 2 laser (actually slower a bit), but has class leading battery performance.
Another possibility, why not consider some of the discontinued Snapdragon 800/801 based smartphones? Considering the Snapdragon 808/810 fiasco, I think those are well worth checking out. For example you can find on eBay NEW and unlocked LG G2 (SD 800, no sd card) for around $160, Nexus 5 (SD800, no SD) for $180-200, LG G3 (SD 801, sd card) for $230, or Samsung Galaxy S5 (SD801, sd card) for just under $300. All of these roughly fall into the same performance bracket at OnePlus One/X, but offer specific versions with the LTE Band 17 used by AT&T in USA that the OnePlus X lacks.
And finally, speaking of Nexus 5X, early reviews suggest it's not all that great or the kind of a diamond in rough that Nexus 5 or OnePlus One used to be, in part thanks the slow storage performance because of the new encryption scheme and once again thanks to the SD808. Considering the price of the base Nexus 5X, I think you could do better with buying a OnePlus 2, which has all the same specs but more memory and slightly faster SoC.
Anandtech has a very thorough review of 5X:
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review

Akopps said:
The Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same).
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I can attest to the Zenfone 2 Laser's battery life. It has an insane capacity! One of my friends just bought the ZF2 Laser, and he constantly gets around 9-10 hrs SoT. And it's not even as if he keeps the screen on doing nothing, he puts it through light to moderate usage - playing light games, browsing, whatsapp, etc with wi-fi on the whole day, but the damn thing just keeps on going!
As far as the performance is concerned, the SD410 is doing a very satisfactory job. So far I've not seen any slowdowns/lags/stuttering whatsoever. So its going pretty smooth as of now.

What about the Huawei Honor 7? It has similar specs and also the price is almost the same (at least in Europe - 270 EUR vs. 300 EUR).

While we compare, what is the software update record of Asus, Huawei, Acer etc? I think Oneplus is going to support their devices for longer than any of those

Currently have a Nexus 5, not sure if it was right to "upgrade". Damn I am gonna miss wireless charging

it is not "upgrade". it is a "sidegrade"

The yu yutopia when it releases with SD 810 at the price of ₹21,000 32gb

Stop suggesting 5.5 phablets. This thread is about 5 in Phones.

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Oppo Find 5 Upgraded

The Oppo Find 5 for China has been silently upgraded to the Snapdragon 600 CPU. It has four cores of the upgraded Krait 300 architecture clocked at the higher 1.7GHz and the same Adreno 320 GPU but with 96 ALUs.
http://www.gsmarena.com/china_mobiles_oppo_find_5_gets_upgraded_with_snapdragon_600-news-6310.php
http://phandroid.com/2013/07/02/oppo-find-5-upgraded-with-snapdragon-600-processor/
I have been contemplating to buy this device for some time now. Once the upgraded version is released internationally I'm definitely procuring one.
Also, how does everyone here like their phone? Worth buying over my current Nexus 4?
Ritwik7 said:
The Oppo Find 5 for China has been silently upgraded to the Snapdragon 600 CPU. It has four cores of the upgraded Krait 300 architecture clocked at the higher 1.7GHz and the same Adreno 320 GPU but with 96 ALUs.
http://www.gsmarena.com/china_mobiles_oppo_find_5_gets_upgraded_with_snapdragon_600-news-6310.php
http://phandroid.com/2013/07/02/oppo-find-5-upgraded-with-snapdragon-600-processor/
I have been contemplating to buy this device for some time now. Once the upgraded version is released internationally I'm definitely procuring one.
Also, how does everyone here like their phone? Worth buying over my current Nexus 4?
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I've had a Nexus 4 and my current phone is the Find 5.
The phones are quite similar with the main differences being on the camera and screen front (the Find 5 trumping the Nexus 4 on both fronts). For me, the main differences are as follows:
1. Screen. The Find 5's screen is a lot better than the Nexus 4's. The colours/brightness are so much better plus it's 1080p.
2. Camera. Nexus 4 8MP/Find 5 13MP. Okay, megapixels isn't a good benchmark but still, the oppo find 5's camera is better.
3. Software. The software that comes preloaded on the Find 5 is crap. It's buggy and jerky. Compare that to the Nexus 4 and the 4 wins outright. However, if you root it and flash a custom ROM the experience becomes more comparable. I've tried 3 ROMs so far and the one that I'm currently running (jellybeer) is running really well with no lag whatsoever.
Interesting to hear about the upgraded CPU. Wish I'd have held off now!!! With a 1.7GHz chip I believe the Find 5 will easily trounce the Nexus 4. Also, when comparing against more mainstream flagship devices (S4/HTC One) I prefer to be using an "Indie" phone that is very different than the average person's mobile.
EDIT: link to a comparison of the Nexus 4 and Find 5 - http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OPPO-Find-5,Google-Nexus-4/phones/7600,7531
Being in China, I had a chance to handle the TD version at one of the many Oppo stores here. From what the sales guy said, However, it will only be available in China, as the TD version is being tailored and produced exclusively for use on China Mobile's TD-SCDMA 3G service. You may be able to get it from a grey seller, though, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
The firmwares between the two are also incompatible, so the ROMs you find here won't work on the TD unless someone has modified it.
EDIT: The sales guy from two different stores I went to also said that Oppo isn't producing a 32GB version of the Find 5 TD (one also said the regular Find 5) anymore due to low demand, but take it with a grain of salt, as salepeople here aren't usually experts on their company workings.
Thanks TheMadMan10 and Vapourstreak. I'm a little disappointed to learn that there will not be any international version of the Oppo Find 5 with the Snapdragon 600 CPU. I love the looks and build of the Oppo but now I'm wondering whether it'll be a good idea to buy a phone with relatively older specs. The HTC One and Galaxy S4 theoretically should trounce the Oppo in performance.
Would take the F5 over the N4 every time, although the N4 is really nice being stock Android (I've a Find 5 and wife has Nexus 4). The screen above all makes the F5 a winner, besides anything else for me.
Software-wise, I've tried most stock/beta/Chinese Firefly/custom ROMs and have settled on Chinese open beta Firefly which is really smooth and issue-free with good benchmarks (see sig), although people who who use apps I don't have raised issues.
I suppose if you're wanting absolute top-of-the-line specs and are thinking of the S4 or HTC One, maybe wait for the HTC One Google edition? Personally after two years of Touchwiz and the bland design (subjective) with Note and Note 2 and won't be going back anytime soon.
I personally don't think there's any phone on the market right now that looks better than the Oppo. But that's subjective. The earliest I can get my hands on one is October.
However, I also hear that the Oppo is slower then the Nexus 4 in games as the same Adreno 320 GPU has to power a 5" 1080p screen. What's the opinion of all the Oppo owners here?
Yeah I also read about the Adreno and 1080p - think it was Anandtech review (?)
I'm not a massive gamer but play Real Racing 3 quite a bit and haven't noticed slowdown, only that it's smoother than my old Note 2 - especially when races have 22 cars on track. Haven't tried it on the Nexus 4.
If you're waiting until October then you should have a good idea of what's coming up in terms of new models by then. The F5 will be almost a year old in terms of announcement so maybe an upgrade (Find 7?) is in the works.
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Nexus 6 or not

Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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First thing, there is always something better round the corner, so when this new chip comes out, there will be an even better one planned for 6 months time. Second, apart from the kick of having the best hardware, would you necessarily be using it?
I say that since the N4 doesn't have 4G (apart from the modem hacks which aren't valid for Europe, where I am). I don't miss it, since I don't have a need for ultra-fast data transmission on my phone.
If you really need/expect to use the possibilities that the hardware enables, if I were you, I would wait until a terminal is equipped with it. If it's not critical, I'd go for either the N6 or an equivalent hi-end Xiaomi or Oppo.
anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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even if the hardware becomes outdated its still going to be strong enough for pretty much anything for couple of years but again If they put **** to mediocre battery life as usual then no thanks
Well it's the "perfect" useless 2K screen that's gonna eat up the battery. I hate QHD on 5-inchers.
You have good valid points but normally Qualcomm have updated their chips at a good rate and considering the fact on estimate around 4 months after the Nexus 6 release the chip would be a big difference in performance in every way and looking at their site. It will also have pretty cool featues
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In my opinion it's impossible to talk about buying/not buying the Nexus 6 as long as we have no official specs and before it is released
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
lg
n6 or google silver,hardware software to much confision but will be best again i guess
Planterz said:
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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anees167 said:
Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Yeah, I know...
It's been a while since Motorola made a phone with a removable battery, and it's been a while since we've seen a Nexus with one.
My next phone, as soon as I can afford one, will most likely be a Sony Z3 Compact (although I might pick up a second Nexus 4 first). I love using big screens, but I hate carrying one. Months ago I was hoping to pick up a Z1 Compact and a OnePlus One. But life happened, and I can't afford those anymore, and even if I could, the Z3 is out soon, and the OPO...well...'nuff said. I still like the idea of having a smaller phone for daily life, then swapping the SIM to a phablet for gaming at home or reading eBooks. The Nexus 6 or S or whatever they end up calling it might just fill that spot if the price isn't absurd, but that'll probably have to wait until tax season.

[Q]Is Micromax YUreka the low range Flagship Killer?

Hey Guys, This is a general question to know your views related to Micromax YU.
For those who don't know the device specs here is a quick walkthrough-
Specifications
1) Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 Octa Core (64 Bit) SoC, Cortex A8-53 clocked at 1.5 Ghz each (MSM8939)
2) GPU Adreno [email protected] Mhz (Clocked)
3) Ram 2 Gigs of LPDDR3
4) 13 MP back camera with blue lens architecture with SONY Exmor RS and 5 MP selfie camera with four lens 72 degree wide
5) Slo-Mo recording at 60 fps
6) 5.5 Inch MIDI Display 720 HD Display with 294 ppi with Gorilla Glass 3(sucks here)
7) 16 GB Internal Onboard Expandable to 64 GB
8) Featuring CyanogenMod OS 11 (Upgradable to CM 12) with a breath taking UI and monthly OTA Updates with 4G LTE CAT 4
9) 8 mm thickness from sides
10) 2500 MAH Lithium Li-Ion Battery (Removable)
These basic features are showcased as of now.
What are your views related to this? Share now!:laugh::good:
Price is 8999 INR or 142$ (US) approx or 91 British Pounds!
Good phone, good specs!
But micromax is known for its awful customer service!
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vblego said:
Good phone, good specs!
But micromax is known for its awful customer service!
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But this one has doorstep servicing
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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don't know why but understand one thing guys yu is different only faunder of mmx is owner of yu otherwise its totally different.
vblego said:
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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some one is promising good services and so let's hope for the best ...
Samuel117 said:
don't know why but understand one thing guys yu is different only faunder of mmx is owner of yu otherwise its totally different.
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Yes u r right, Even it doesn't have micromax logo or name in it...
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Well some desrrve second chance
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vblego said:
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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Let's see what happens
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Tech N You said:
Hey Guys, This is a general question to know your views related to Micromax YU.
For those who don't know the device specs here is a quick walkthrough-
Specifications
1) Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 Octa Core (64 Bit) SoC, Cortex A8-53 clocked at 1.5 Ghz each (MSM8939)
2) GPU Adreno [email protected] Mhz (Clocked)
3) Ram 2 Gigs of LPDDR3
4) 13 MP back camera with blue lens architecture with SONY Exmor RS and 5 MP selfie camera with four lens 72 degree wide
5) Slo-Mo recording at 60 fps
6) 5.5 Inch MIDI Display 720 HD Display with 294 ppi (sucks here)
7) 16 GB Internal Onboard Expandable to 64 GB
8) Featuring CyanogenMod OS 11 (Upgradable to CM 12) with a breath taking UI and monthly OTA Updates with 4G LTE CAT 4
9) 8 mm thickness from sides
10) 2500 MAH Lithium Li-Ion Battery (Removable)
These basic features are showcased as of now.
What are your views related to this? Share now!:laugh::good:
Price is 8999 INR or 142$ (US) approx or 91 British Pounds!
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Hey bro u forget to add Gorilla glass 3 and oleophobic coating
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Hey bro u forget to add Gorilla glass 3 and oleophobic coating
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Thanks for the information
Looks good on paper. (Except the screen size)
Mainly the 2gigs of LPDDR3 and the ARMv8 MSM8939 looks promising. If anyone here gets the device, post some camera samples.
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
Remember, this is just a rebranded coolpad f2 4g clone, so i dont expect it to be good qualitywise. I am looking forward to reviews after long term use
Good think you guys have a official xda thread, expect new developers to pimp out this phone with cool new ROMS !!
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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How is it possible for china phones to be low price like 2k and 3k and still have specs greater than those in the same price range?
Now smartphone market is going cheaper. With cyanogenmod.
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Will this get Lollipop ?CM12
earlier Mmx phones were promised kitkat update officially but they are stuck on JB till now.
It will get lollipop update
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They won,t advertise as much other do. so they even get profit from a low price phone.
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NoobInToto said:
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
Remember, this is just a rebranded coolpad f2 4g clone, so i dont expect it to be good qualitywise. I am looking forward to reviews after long term use
Good think you guys have a official xda thread, expect new developers to pimp out this phone with cool new ROMS !![/QUOTE
By low range flagship killer I meant a device that provides top class experience within budget
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NoobInToto said:
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
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Agreed. OP should really change the title to something like Is YU Yureka the new affordable King of midrange smartphones? or, if you really wanna go overboard Is YU Yureka the newest and most affordable Nexus for the masses?
The company really is called YU not Micromax (although started by Micromax founder) and, it is a midrange smartphone with a budget range price.
This is Micromax straight up copying device specs and marketing strategy from Google/Motorola (Moto G/E) and OPPO/OnePlus (One) and Xiaomi (Redmi Note) etc. If they execute properly, this could repeat the Moto G's success. They really should have gone with a 4.5"-4.7" screen (ok, maybe 5" max because India is their main market), bigger battery and, paid deep attention to getting the camera right.
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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At Rs.15k, it will be closer to the OnePlus One's price and that is a better smartphone. It will also have to fight with devices like the Xiaomi Redmi Note and the Moto G (which has good quality and support in it's favour but lesser specs). Also last year's Moto X was going for Rs.17k....
Nope. Much safer to jump below Rs.10k for now... :angel:

GAME CHANGER!! Better And Cheaper Than Moto G 2nd Gen ...

The other day I was cruising around amazon looking for an unlocked smartphone. I came across the BLU Studio X, the specs were striking similar to the Moto G 2nd gen with some better assets. With The Same 5.0" HD Display (720 x 1280) 294ppi, 8gb internal storage, 1gb of ram, 8mp primary camera [2mp front], and android lollipop. Also with some better assets like: a 1.3Ghz processor vs the 1.2Ghz processor on the G, expandable storage up to 64gb oppose to the 32gb limit on the G, 1080p video recording vs only 720p on The Moto G, 4G HSPA+ (Not Lte), Wi-Fi Direct, Dual Sim and a slightly lager battery of 2100 mAh for about $125 unlocked. But that's not even the phone I wanted to talk about. The real "game changer" here is the BLU Studio C 2015 Edition. Its pack the exact same punch as the BLU Studio X, but just at $99 Unlocked! Did I forget to mention that the BLU Studio C 2015 has a 3,000 mAh battery ?! It must be bulkier than the G right? Wrong! the BLU Studio C 2015 Is Only 9.4mm thick. 1.6 Thinner than the Moto G. Crazy right ? basically if your purchase this device you'll be getting a not-so-Motorola Moto G 2nd gen with slightly better perks and assests and a huge battery.
What am I losing?: The fact that its a Motorola (moto suite), dual front facing speakers, corning gorilla glass 3*, 1ppi
What am I gaining?: a 0.1 clock speed gain, up to 64gb expandable storage, dual sim, 1080p video recording, 4G HSPA+, Wi-Fi Direct, A 930 mAh battery gain, earphones, micro usb charging unit, free case,*comes with screen protector, phone comes in 6 different colors and $79 less you have to spend. ships with lollipop.note (the studio c 2015 has 293ppi)
Don't get me wrong I love the Moto series, but this phone really does put a road block in front of of the Moto G 2nd Gen.
Product website - http://www.bluproducts.com/index.php/studio-c
Purchase the Studio C 2015 - http://www.amazon.com/BLU-5-0-Inch-...TF8&qid=1432047643&sr=8-1&keywords=B00WN7L4IA
And because of MTK you gain no updates ever.
Also mtk performance is lower than snapdragon.
About SD card I've use my transcend 64gb microsd in the moto g and works fine
Its an MTK device, you only will have luck with MTK if you buy an Android One. also the GPU is pretty bad.
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I agree that the qualcomm s4 is better than the MTK
And 64gb sd-cards a well supported by the Moto G. I woudn´t want to change....
It seems to not available here in the Netherlands... Besides Motorola is a much better supported brand!
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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If you are talking about the processor, i was not saying that MTK6582 is has a bad performance, i believe it have the same performance as our Snapdragon 400, or close to it, a little less, can be. As for the GPU, Mali-400 is a pretty bad GPU today, if the site is right, its not even a Mali-400MP2 (the GPU used on the Galaxy S3), Mali-400 was the Galaxy S2 GPU, so its a 4 years old GPU. But i believe its a new version of this GPU, if its not, then its really bad.
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Everybody disregard this thread. I purchased the Studio C and its absolutely terrible, its a bad phone overall. it feels extremely cheap. the screen touch isn't accurate. you can even see the layers within the display. this phone is a gimmick. it looks absolute great on paper for a budget smartphone, but doesn't meet the expectations at all. the only thing that is impressive is the 3,000 mAh battery. nothing else ... I would rather spend $79 more bucks for a phone inessentially the same specs besides the slightly better chipset than save $79 for a deceiving phone that is terrible. you Moto G owners made a great choice, its the best budget smartphone to date.
I've tried out similar devices. The lack of support due to the closed source chip sets is depressing. Always choose a device with open source and good support
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@motoinspri
if you need better phone for the same price, look on Amazon Fire Phone ($179 on sale)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone
Gorilla glass 3 alone is worth the extra $ of the Moto G 2014, imo.
well if put like this,then there are a lot of phones with higher specs and low prices than moto
but the thing is that primarily we do not get any good support in lieu of software
build quality is mostly low and even problematic with hardware
So to say I'm happy with my little moto,its quality and devs here:good:
Avoid BLU!
I fell for a Blu phone, it was a Studio 5 I think. It was riddled with bugs and in a year there was not one update. Everyone was clamoring for the kit-kat update they had promised for the phone. The date came and went. Finally, the president of Blu said in an interview that if you want an update just buy a new phone. I bought the moto g and recycled the blu.
Mediatek?
No, thanks...
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I went for a Blu Studio 5.5 last year to replace my windows work phone, support sucked never got the promised Kitkat update, replaced it with a moto g 2014 and never looked back and was one of the first devices to get lollipop.
You want an alternative to a moto G 2014? Buy an asus zenfone 2 for $199 and get way better specs than your blu phone and the moto g 2014 combined nuff said.
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What phone after Jiayu S3 ?

I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife. But with the applications updates and time passing, the 16 Gb of memory is simply not enough anymore for my usage.
I would like to find a replacement phone similar to my Jiayu with at least 32 Gb of memory and 4 Gb of ROM. The new phone should be dual sim (I work and live in two countries), compatible with European 4G, provide an extension for a memory card (that doesn't use a sim slot) and be easily rootable (I'm an IT engineer, so this is a must). The price should also be less then 300€ (my Jiayu S3 costed me less than 200€, with accessories and shipment included).
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72917904
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I own my jiayu S3 since a long time. It's simply the best phone I have had so far. I love it, and I even bought another one for my wife.
Is there any phone that can match this ? I just can't find any so far. I'm asking here because I suspect I'm not the only one wondering what one can use after a Jiayu S3.
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It's a tough one. Been looking too for some upgrade after 2+ years of S3 use but there is always one or two things that you have to sacrifice - NFC, separate mSD slot, or sometimes B20 frequency on 4G network. For me, an upgrade from S3 would be a minimum of 4/64GB and 4000 mAh battery. I was looking for a larger screen also (Mi Max 2 with 6.44" is my favorite, although no NFC) and also some od Redmi Note series or some LeEco 5.7" models. Oh, and there is Lenovo P2 but it's not so much of an upgrade.
I like the idea of discussing next phone. We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development. Next, we inevitably also focus on some different parameters (money, size, functionality, ...).
Personally, money is not the main obstacle, and, I would like a big 6.5" phone (and if needed at all : a 17" tablet) . Actually: for big screen Android experience I prefer a TV box (and dual boot LE for fun), so I probably do not need a tablet.
So, right now, I have hope for 'Huawei Honor Note 9' or 'Xiaomi Mi Mix 2' but -only- if some minimal, say, Google -style ROM can be built. If not then I would be equally happy with a big size madOS supported Mediatek device with excellent specs and support (just like my beloved JYS3s). Or, ideally: a OnePlus 6+ (6.5" phone).
For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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For MadOS Rom, Superdragon mentioned perhaps getting the Vernee Apollo ...
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Vernee Apollo looks OK. I want more than 6" next phone. But that's just my wish.
What do you guys think of the Ulefone T1, is it any good and will it be supported bij MAD or other team?
Umidigi S2 Pro?
I think next week I will be ordering Mi Max 2, after 2.5 years of Jiayu S3. It's still running fine so I will probably keep it as backup (and to test Oreo if it comes in near future , but I decided it's time for a bigger screen and much better battery with QC3, which is one of the principal reasons for upgrade...
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We have something in common: our amazing JYS3 but, I think, also our belief in open source development.
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Exactly. It's a critical advantage for the (more advanced) users to also have open source ROMs available.
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Umidigi S2 Pro?
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On paper, it's trully amazing. But it's not been released yet (it will be in a few days)..
Ulefone T1 ?
Vernee Mix 2 ?
Vernee Apollo 2 or LeEco LE MAX 3 I want to see them soon in reviews. Good screen, power and design
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Umidigi S2 Pro?
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Also going for this phone, only takes so long for its release.
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Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
antonioantuan said:
Actually, I do not want that phone anymore. Maybe an Apollo 2 Vernee or a Leeco le Max3 (in the future)
A MTK x30 or a smartphone equal or superior Snapdragon 821
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Why did you change your mind?
Those two phones dont look as good as the Umidigi S2 Pro in my opinion.
And slightly better specs dont care to me, am not going to play heavy games.
Personally I've moved from Mediatek devices, got a Le Max 2 and it's a big step camera wise. Mediatek devices promise a lot but these Chinese companies fail to deliver on the specs. They keep bragging about the image sensor because they know they're not going to optimize the image quality.
Outside of MAD there's not really any development going on for Mediatek devices, and Mediatek seems to have given up on high-performance SoCs (X30 was a big flop), so it'll be the boring octa-core A53s for next year. You can find decent Qualcomm devices for the same price, and you'll get custom roms.
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A colleague just told me about the XIAOMI Mi A1. It looks like a very good candidate to replace my Jiayu S3:
- nearly stock android, developed with Google partnership (the first Android One phone from Xiaomi), so it should get frequent updates. Android 8 Oreo planned for the end of the year
- made for the international market, not just for China
- dual sim. However the second SIM slot is also used for a memory card. What a silly trend ! But it has 64 GB of ROM, so this is a bit less of an issue
- 4 GB of RAM
- 5.5 inches 1920x1080, like the Jiayu S3
- snapdragon 625 2Ghz
- gpu Adreno 506
- 3080mah battery
- cheap, less than 240$ (200€)
A review: https://www.androidcentral.com/xiaomi-mi-a1-review
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This ticks a lot of boxes for me but it is missing NFC.

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