GAME CHANGER!! Better And Cheaper Than Moto G 2nd Gen ... - G 2014 General

The other day I was cruising around amazon looking for an unlocked smartphone. I came across the BLU Studio X, the specs were striking similar to the Moto G 2nd gen with some better assets. With The Same 5.0" HD Display (720 x 1280) 294ppi, 8gb internal storage, 1gb of ram, 8mp primary camera [2mp front], and android lollipop. Also with some better assets like: a 1.3Ghz processor vs the 1.2Ghz processor on the G, expandable storage up to 64gb oppose to the 32gb limit on the G, 1080p video recording vs only 720p on The Moto G, 4G HSPA+ (Not Lte), Wi-Fi Direct, Dual Sim and a slightly lager battery of 2100 mAh for about $125 unlocked. But that's not even the phone I wanted to talk about. The real "game changer" here is the BLU Studio C 2015 Edition. Its pack the exact same punch as the BLU Studio X, but just at $99 Unlocked! Did I forget to mention that the BLU Studio C 2015 has a 3,000 mAh battery ?! It must be bulkier than the G right? Wrong! the BLU Studio C 2015 Is Only 9.4mm thick. 1.6 Thinner than the Moto G. Crazy right ? basically if your purchase this device you'll be getting a not-so-Motorola Moto G 2nd gen with slightly better perks and assests and a huge battery.
What am I losing?: The fact that its a Motorola (moto suite), dual front facing speakers, corning gorilla glass 3*, 1ppi
What am I gaining?: a 0.1 clock speed gain, up to 64gb expandable storage, dual sim, 1080p video recording, 4G HSPA+, Wi-Fi Direct, A 930 mAh battery gain, earphones, micro usb charging unit, free case,*comes with screen protector, phone comes in 6 different colors and $79 less you have to spend. ships with lollipop.note (the studio c 2015 has 293ppi)
Don't get me wrong I love the Moto series, but this phone really does put a road block in front of of the Moto G 2nd Gen.
Product website - http://www.bluproducts.com/index.php/studio-c
Purchase the Studio C 2015 - http://www.amazon.com/BLU-5-0-Inch-...TF8&qid=1432047643&sr=8-1&keywords=B00WN7L4IA

And because of MTK you gain no updates ever.

Also mtk performance is lower than snapdragon.
About SD card I've use my transcend 64gb microsd in the moto g and works fine

Its an MTK device, you only will have luck with MTK if you buy an Android One. also the GPU is pretty bad.
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I agree that the qualcomm s4 is better than the MTK

And 64gb sd-cards a well supported by the Moto G. I woudn´t want to change....

It seems to not available here in the Netherlands... Besides Motorola is a much better supported brand!
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582

motoinspri said:
Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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If you are talking about the processor, i was not saying that MTK6582 is has a bad performance, i believe it have the same performance as our Snapdragon 400, or close to it, a little less, can be. As for the GPU, Mali-400 is a pretty bad GPU today, if the site is right, its not even a Mali-400MP2 (the GPU used on the Galaxy S3), Mali-400 was the Galaxy S2 GPU, so its a 4 years old GPU. But i believe its a new version of this GPU, if its not, then its really bad.
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Everybody disregard this thread. I purchased the Studio C and its absolutely terrible, its a bad phone overall. it feels extremely cheap. the screen touch isn't accurate. you can even see the layers within the display. this phone is a gimmick. it looks absolute great on paper for a budget smartphone, but doesn't meet the expectations at all. the only thing that is impressive is the 3,000 mAh battery. nothing else ... I would rather spend $79 more bucks for a phone inessentially the same specs besides the slightly better chipset than save $79 for a deceiving phone that is terrible. you Moto G owners made a great choice, its the best budget smartphone to date.

I've tried out similar devices. The lack of support due to the closed source chip sets is depressing. Always choose a device with open source and good support
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@motoinspri
if you need better phone for the same price, look on Amazon Fire Phone ($179 on sale)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone

Gorilla glass 3 alone is worth the extra $ of the Moto G 2014, imo.

well if put like this,then there are a lot of phones with higher specs and low prices than moto
but the thing is that primarily we do not get any good support in lieu of software
build quality is mostly low and even problematic with hardware
So to say I'm happy with my little moto,its quality and devs here:good:

Avoid BLU!
I fell for a Blu phone, it was a Studio 5 I think. It was riddled with bugs and in a year there was not one update. Everyone was clamoring for the kit-kat update they had promised for the phone. The date came and went. Finally, the president of Blu said in an interview that if you want an update just buy a new phone. I bought the moto g and recycled the blu.

Mediatek?
No, thanks...
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I went for a Blu Studio 5.5 last year to replace my windows work phone, support sucked never got the promised Kitkat update, replaced it with a moto g 2014 and never looked back and was one of the first devices to get lollipop.
You want an alternative to a moto G 2014? Buy an asus zenfone 2 for $199 and get way better specs than your blu phone and the moto g 2014 combined nuff said.
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Dual Core 1GHz Tegra2 Viewsonic G-Tablet

The Viewsonic 10 inch "G-Tablet" discussed in the link below ($349 from Sears) has the Nividia dual core 1ghz Tegra 2 processor. It sounds like it has pretty decent hardware but lacking in software due to not being an official Google product and having a poor performing UI.
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/tablet/viewsonics-tegra-2-tablet-on-sale-now-at-sears-for-379/
Viewsonic G-Tablet specs include:
NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual ARM cortex (1Ghz)
Capacitive Multi-Touch/Multi Tasking panel
10.1” 1024 X 600 TFI LCD Screen
512 MB RAM, Mass Memory 16 GB
Mini USB x 1; Full size USB x 1
1.3MP Front –Facing Webcam
Earphone x 1
Micro SD card slot
2 x 1 W speaker
Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
G sensor/Light sensor
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
3500mAh/7.4V Li-polymer Battery Life 8-10 Hours
Slim design (267 x 173 x 14.3mm) Wt. 820 Grams
Buttons: Home/Back/Menu/Volume/Power
OS / Android 2.2
Headphone Jack
Built in Microphone
"Original information out of Viewsonic said this device would cost over $500, but Sears is selling a WiFi-only version that lacks the sim-card slot of the more expensive model. Some overseas models were also reported to include 1 GB of RAM, but the Sears unit is shipping with 512 MB RAM."
"The good news is that this tablet comes with Android 2.2, but that might be there the fun ends. This tablet was not certified by Google so it lacks all the Google Mobile Services including the official Android Market. Thankfully you can still sideload apps and alternative markets like SlideME."
You can buy the "G-tablet" here: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00382001000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1 Use the zoom feature on the picture to get a really good close up of the device buttons and LEDs etc. I like the clean and simple look. Three buttons is nice too and the Wifi only will work perfectly with a tethering Nexus One (see it's not OT). At $380 it is ~$120 cheaper than the equivalent iPad.
I think this would be a good candidate for dev support to take advantage of the hardware to root and optimize for 10" display. If developers are interested in rocking this device I am definitely picking one up.
Do you think developers would work with this device?
At the pricepoint they are selling it for, this device would be appealing if we have developer support.
Let's face it, developer support will be the deciding factor for a lot of people, almost (but not completely) regardless of the hardware...
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Let's also face it; it has nothing to do with the Nexus. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824804
I might pick one up the next time I'm in there browsing the lawn mowers
Archos 101 for 299 is more appealing no ?

Tab 7.7 vs iPad Mini

So let's match up the latest contender against the current king of "pocketables" (our beloved Tab 7.7) in terms of hardware:
Specs of the main rivals (as of Nov 2012):
Code:
Galaxy Tab 7.7 iPad Mini Nexus 7 Kindle Fire HD
Dimensions 196.7 x 133 x 7.9 mm 200 x 134.7 x 7.2 mm 198.5 x 120 x 10.5 mm 193 x 137 x 10.3 mm
Weight 340 g 308 g 340 g 395 g
Resolution 1280 x 800 1024 x 768 1280 x 800 1280 x 800
Screen 7.7" 196 ppi 7.9" 162 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi 7.0" 216 ppi
Cams 3.15 & 2 MP 5 & 1 MP 1.2 MP 1.3 MP
Micro-SD yes no no no
CPU Dual-core 1.4 GHz A9 Dual-core 1 Ghz A9 Quad-core 1.3 GHz A9 Dual-core 1.2 GHz A9
GPU Mali-400MP PowerVR SGX MP4+ GeForce PowerVR SGX540
RAM 1 GB 512 MB 1 GB 512 MB
GPS yes no yes no
Misc voice call support NFC
Verdict:
Dimensions: draw
Weight: iPad Mini
Resolution: Tab 7.7
Screen: Tab 7.7
Cams: draw
Micro-SD: Tab 7.7
CPU: Tab 7.7
GPU: Tab 7.7
RAM: Tab 7.7
GPS: Tab 7.7
Looking at the hardware it looks like a clear win for the Tab 7.7.
For those looking for LTE data: supported by both Verizon's Tab 7.7 and iPad Mini LTE version
So, to summarize the iPad Mini:
The Good: light weight, good back cam
The Bad: front cam, no expandable memory, no USB peripheral connectivity, no GPS
The Ugly: 162ppi (in 2012) is going to be pushing it when reading full size PDFs, non-uniform bezel not really great design choice
What do you guys think?
The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
ascariss said:
The only good thing here, is that there will be a lot of accessories for the ipad mini and there is a slight chance that some of these might fit the 7.7 .
I do feel that samsung might come out with another amoled tab in january at CES but I could be wrong.
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I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
Accessories wise I'm pretty happy handling the device without any bulky covers; and the screen protectors won't be compatible, not sure what the Mini could contribute..
I'll pass on the Mini, if only to have it just play with. One dealbreaker too many -- no microsd slot. End of story.
I might jump ship for a Asus padphone 2
Tab 7.7 definitely wins here. The iPad mini isn't worth it.
Tab 7.7 has the native Voice Call !!!!!
Absolutely the must-have feature.
7.7 original innovation. Ipad Mini same as ipad 2 but smaller no innovation. And waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to expensive for it to compete with anything else. Sure the 7.7 was over $600 US but I would gladly pay that anytime over a shrunken down version of an old product
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
Agreed the Gtab 7.7 is superior, and it was a device announced in 2011!
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While the hardware of the 7.7 is great and the fact that Samsung got it right on the size (a fraction of an inch really does matter in the 7inch tablet market) -- Apple's advantage is it's ecosystem. It is a fact that their tablets will be upgraded to iOS7 and iOS8. Until Android and/or Samsung get down to a good software support model we won't win. Give me a 7.7 Nexus that has an annual software update and isn't discontinued and I think I'll be happy.
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As long as some people from Team Hacksung don't jump ship, we'll have newer OSs. The 7.7 is mostly the same as a Galaxy SII, and almost the same as a Note. Both devices are being worked on by people from the Team, and most of the Exynos 4212's stupidities are known and somewhat understood. Although our device isn't as well supported as the Note, we will get whatever CM version the Note gets; right now locerra is working to avoid the rough edges, but if he stops doing so someone from the community will step up. We won't get a TouchWiz Android 4.2+, but we will get it (and future versions) on AOSP.
A 1024x768 4:3 screen vs 1280x800 SAMOLED+? It's not even fair.
Apparently the Mini doesn't include a GPS either, whereas the Tab7.7 comes out of the box with GPS enabled Google Maps. Then add (compass enabled) Streetview and Google Earth (and compare it to Apple maps w/o GPS) and it's not even a contest in this category.
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nephridium said:
I hope so too. A 7.7 successor with stylus, 1920x1080 (286 ppi) screen and wireless charging would be a game changer.
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+1 to that. My wish
I would say the nexus 7 is better based on the specs I do not like apple products at all but will probably buy the iPad mini when available to test it out and see how good the screen is compared to the nexus
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I just bought a gtab 7.7 and am well within my 14 day return period. Here are the reasons I am not going to get the ipad mini:
- GPS. How can apple not include this? Unbelievable.
- screen quality. While I have not seen the ipad mini, I love the display on the gtab 7.7. It is the best I've seen on any device.
- build quality. Better than any android device and at least as good as the ipad.
- expandable memory.
- haptic feedback. I love to use this while typing. It amazes me that apple, amazon and Asus do not include this on their devices and nobody complains.
The primary advantages for apple in my eyes include :
- great app eco system and developer support.
- warranty and service are Lexus like... at least in my experience.
So I'm keeping my gtab 7.7. This replaces my old school gtab 7 that I've had for two years.
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besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
idiotekniQues said:
besides the app ecosystem, the tab 7.7 wins on everything to me.
to get an equivalent cellular model, with 64gb space (to compensate for no microsd slot) you'd be paying 600 bucks for the mini.
the tab 7.7 is a year old as well and it still kicks the llama's ass. samsung nailed it, was ahead of the game, but somehow didn't know how to market the best tab in this size range.
i really wish that android apps would catch up on the tablet-optimized space. the apps taht are tablet optimized are a much better experience than blown up phone app interfaces.
i personally wish google would put some android specifications that all manufacturers have to follow. enough so it is easier to develop for without affecting the different choices we can get.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
I just installed Paranoid Android v2.5. It's a very good ROM. You can change the looks from tablet mode to phone mode, or hybrid mode - phanblet mode.
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That's why he have Paranoid Android - to change per app DPI.
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totally agree
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[Q]Is Micromax YUreka the low range Flagship Killer?

Hey Guys, This is a general question to know your views related to Micromax YU.
For those who don't know the device specs here is a quick walkthrough-
Specifications
1) Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 Octa Core (64 Bit) SoC, Cortex A8-53 clocked at 1.5 Ghz each (MSM8939)
2) GPU Adreno [email protected] Mhz (Clocked)
3) Ram 2 Gigs of LPDDR3
4) 13 MP back camera with blue lens architecture with SONY Exmor RS and 5 MP selfie camera with four lens 72 degree wide
5) Slo-Mo recording at 60 fps
6) 5.5 Inch MIDI Display 720 HD Display with 294 ppi with Gorilla Glass 3(sucks here)
7) 16 GB Internal Onboard Expandable to 64 GB
8) Featuring CyanogenMod OS 11 (Upgradable to CM 12) with a breath taking UI and monthly OTA Updates with 4G LTE CAT 4
9) 8 mm thickness from sides
10) 2500 MAH Lithium Li-Ion Battery (Removable)
These basic features are showcased as of now.
What are your views related to this? Share now!:laugh::good:
Price is 8999 INR or 142$ (US) approx or 91 British Pounds!
Good phone, good specs!
But micromax is known for its awful customer service!
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vblego said:
Good phone, good specs!
But micromax is known for its awful customer service!
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But this one has doorstep servicing
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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don't know why but understand one thing guys yu is different only faunder of mmx is owner of yu otherwise its totally different.
vblego said:
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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some one is promising good services and so let's hope for the best ...
Samuel117 said:
don't know why but understand one thing guys yu is different only faunder of mmx is owner of yu otherwise its totally different.
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Yes u r right, Even it doesn't have micromax logo or name in it...
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Well some desrrve second chance
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vblego said:
That's true but there still is a small amount of risk.
My friend bought a canvas nitro and found out that it was missing a few sensors even though they were displayed on the box. He got it replaced with great difficulty.
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Let's see what happens
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Tech N You said:
Hey Guys, This is a general question to know your views related to Micromax YU.
For those who don't know the device specs here is a quick walkthrough-
Specifications
1) Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 Octa Core (64 Bit) SoC, Cortex A8-53 clocked at 1.5 Ghz each (MSM8939)
2) GPU Adreno [email protected] Mhz (Clocked)
3) Ram 2 Gigs of LPDDR3
4) 13 MP back camera with blue lens architecture with SONY Exmor RS and 5 MP selfie camera with four lens 72 degree wide
5) Slo-Mo recording at 60 fps
6) 5.5 Inch MIDI Display 720 HD Display with 294 ppi (sucks here)
7) 16 GB Internal Onboard Expandable to 64 GB
8) Featuring CyanogenMod OS 11 (Upgradable to CM 12) with a breath taking UI and monthly OTA Updates with 4G LTE CAT 4
9) 8 mm thickness from sides
10) 2500 MAH Lithium Li-Ion Battery (Removable)
These basic features are showcased as of now.
What are your views related to this? Share now!:laugh::good:
Price is 8999 INR or 142$ (US) approx or 91 British Pounds!
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Hey bro u forget to add Gorilla glass 3 and oleophobic coating
pravin21 said:
Hey bro u forget to add Gorilla glass 3 and oleophobic coating
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Thanks for the information
Looks good on paper. (Except the screen size)
Mainly the 2gigs of LPDDR3 and the ARMv8 MSM8939 looks promising. If anyone here gets the device, post some camera samples.
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
Remember, this is just a rebranded coolpad f2 4g clone, so i dont expect it to be good qualitywise. I am looking forward to reviews after long term use
Good think you guys have a official xda thread, expect new developers to pimp out this phone with cool new ROMS !!
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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How is it possible for china phones to be low price like 2k and 3k and still have specs greater than those in the same price range?
Now smartphone market is going cheaper. With cyanogenmod.
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Will this get Lollipop ?CM12
earlier Mmx phones were promised kitkat update officially but they are stuck on JB till now.
It will get lollipop update
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They won,t advertise as much other do. so they even get profit from a low price phone.
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NoobInToto said:
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
Remember, this is just a rebranded coolpad f2 4g clone, so i dont expect it to be good qualitywise. I am looking forward to reviews after long term use
Good think you guys have a official xda thread, expect new developers to pimp out this phone with cool new ROMS !![/QUOTE
By low range flagship killer I meant a device that provides top class experience within budget
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NoobInToto said:
The phone looks decent in the video reviews for its price. But flagship killer is not the apt word, since it cannot compete with the flagships.
Idk what you really mean about low range flagships.... coz flagships are always high range
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Agreed. OP should really change the title to something like Is YU Yureka the new affordable King of midrange smartphones? or, if you really wanna go overboard Is YU Yureka the newest and most affordable Nexus for the masses?
The company really is called YU not Micromax (although started by Micromax founder) and, it is a midrange smartphone with a budget range price.
This is Micromax straight up copying device specs and marketing strategy from Google/Motorola (Moto G/E) and OPPO/OnePlus (One) and Xiaomi (Redmi Note) etc. If they execute properly, this could repeat the Moto G's success. They really should have gone with a 4.5"-4.7" screen (ok, maybe 5" max because India is their main market), bigger battery and, paid deep attention to getting the camera right.
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How is possible for MMX to price this phone for 9000 this should be 15 k to be honest given the specs and 4G
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At Rs.15k, it will be closer to the OnePlus One's price and that is a better smartphone. It will also have to fight with devices like the Xiaomi Redmi Note and the Moto G (which has good quality and support in it's favour but lesser specs). Also last year's Moto X was going for Rs.17k....
Nope. Much safer to jump below Rs.10k for now... :angel:

Experience switching from Moto G to Redmi Note 4G

Hye, guys.
Today im going to share my experience switching. So basically ive had my moto g for roughly 1 year and a half and its been okay. batt life good, lollipop good but i really hated the camera and the 1gb ram soooo much. I have over 100 apps on my phone and I frequently use the phone to browse the web, switch to whatsapp, then to music play, and lastly the camera + gallery, and as you might imagine, the browser redraws quite a bit. Not everytime, but sometimes so it got kinda annoying.
I tried:
- going for cm12.1 - was a good experience - got too eliminate redraws but at the expense of laggines
-using the advanced motorola cameraq settings - but it remained kinda lackluster
Motivated by that I went around the internetz to see wether there'd be a phone ( a cheap phone) with 2gb ram and at least a processor on par with the moto g and voila came the Redmi Note 4G. I got for really cheap and im using it right now.
Now here's the part where i share my experience with the Redmi Note 4G;
- it runs 4.4.4 kitkat 9( I know, ancient)
-no launcher-broswer-other app redraws (2GB ram)
-heats up a lot when you use it WHILE charging - heats a bit during other tasks - solved it by rooting and going down to 1.1 ghz from 1.6ghz
-the camera is lackluster too LOL (but significantly better than the moto g's) - but it got okay when i snapped using burst mode (just like our moto g)
-Almost zero development Lol
-kernel sources are out but very problematic (missing camera code)
the thing about MIUIV6 is its a beautiful interface and I like it a lot. back when my moto g had cm12.1, I went for days looking for a good theme so this kinda made me feel like the purchase was worth it. Do I like the Redmi Note 4G? Yes. I wish The moto g had 2gb of Ram, 2gb expandable storage, and a better camera or else i wouldn't have switched to be honest. it was a good run with the moto g and I still love it and its form factor. NOTHING feels better than holding Moto G to be honest. I hope moto makes the right desicion by adding more ram and expandable storage to the moto g ver. 3. I'll absolutely switch to that when its available.
So thats the my experience switching from a moto g to a redmi note 4g (snapdragon 400, 2gb ram, 1.6ghz)
tldr
-Both are cheap phones with their own set of probs
-Love the moto g for its android updates
-love the Redmi Note for its 2gb RAM and beautiful interface
-The thing that motivated me was the redmi's better camera, ram and expandable storage
-had a good time with the moto g
-hope to have a good time with the redmi.
-its so hard to find a phone with 2gb ram at this price point.
I hope lollipop MIUI comes out eventually lol

[Discussion] How does the OnePlus X compare to its main rivals?

By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
I think that Xiaomi Mi4C is pretty good competitor. Dimensions are almost the same. Mi4C has a bigger battery, a bit faster processor (SD808), usb type-C and IR blaster. However, OnePlus X has Amoled screen and sd-card slot (and 800Mhz LTE for EU users). I think that OnePlus X has also better OS and perharps longer update support.
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
In this thread, I'd like to avoid discussing larger phones (~5.5") or flagship devices that cost upwards of $400 (The HTC One A9 just squeaks in).
Speaking in broad strokes, given the specs and price it looks like the One X mops them all up in the spirit of the OnePlus One. The Motorola and the Samsungs are similarly priced but seriously lacking in specs. The Nexus 5X and HTC One A9 have equal or better specs, but cost quite a bit more. I'm trying to think of anything close to the value proposition of the X and I'm not coming up with much.
What say ye?
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rp3 said:
Does it have to be a 2015 release? Expanding the base:
LG G2/Nexus 5: very similiar size + NFC + 32GB base but lacking sd expansion.
Xperia Z3 Compact: smaller screen + body with mostly similiar specs.
Galaxy S5 - ugly but is an otherwise functional phone at a good price
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+1 I think former flagships are a great alternative, since most of them continue on to become great mid-range phones.
Unfortunately, the Nexus 5 isn't available new anymore, except for the occasional eBay auction.
The Xperia Z3 Compact clearly isn't a ~5" device.
LG G2/G3 can be considered as rivals too !
No LTE in USA!, fingerprint scanner, nfc, ois....what is oneplus thinking? With this trend of lacking necessary features and increasing prices, it's doubtful oneplus will ever be more than a small player.
i would say Mi 4C would be the main competitor, with SD808, Wifi AC, bigger battery, and IR Blaster in its favour
OPX has AMOLED, Metal build, and MicroSD in its favour though
i would say the bigger battery and Wifi AC will hurt the OPX more than the chipset difference, apparently SD808 and SD801 CPU performance is about the same, though Adreno 418 is about 20% better than 330, even though Adreno 330 is "enough" for 1080p screens (quotation bcz enough is very subjective)
I'm having a real struggle here :/
Mi4c is missing band 20 LTE which rules out O2 in the UK
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It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
Akopps said:
It's missing the LTE bands 12 and 17, which means it's a lousy phone for 4G networks in USA. At this point, it's still a better deal overall to just get the old OPO in the USA.
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Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
LTE Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Source. OnePlus.net
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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gabling23 said:
What should I pick between one plus x and Moto x play, the price is almost the same. For performance the one plus should be better but the battery life on the x play should be amazing.. I don't know what to chose.
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Plus x has SAMOLED , which is a strong point in itself. Also, SAMOLED means more battery life.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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Oh that's right. However, I am on AT&T network, so I care only about the band 17 right now, which OnePlus One supports. Anyways, with crippled LTE band support, the X is kind of a lousy proposition IMHO.
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CafeKampuchia said:
Which is missing bands 2 & 12, so pick your poison.
Source. OnePlus.net
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CafeKampuchia said:
By rivals, I mean devices (1) in the same size category (~5") and (2) in the same market class and/or spec range, such as:
Nexus 5X
HTC One A9
Motorola Moto G
Samsung Z3/J5/E5
What else?
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In my opinion, the Asus Zenfone 2 and its derivatives is definitely a rival. My understanding is that the Intel-based Asus Zenfone 2 has very good SoC performance, probably above the Snapdragon 801, but below average battery life, screen brightness, and camera software. The Snapdragon 615 based Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same). Considering that both Zenfones start at $200 and have proper LTE support, they're definitely in the game. Moto G falls approximately into the same performance bracket at Zenfone 2 laser (actually slower a bit), but has class leading battery performance.
Another possibility, why not consider some of the discontinued Snapdragon 800/801 based smartphones? Considering the Snapdragon 808/810 fiasco, I think those are well worth checking out. For example you can find on eBay NEW and unlocked LG G2 (SD 800, no sd card) for around $160, Nexus 5 (SD800, no SD) for $180-200, LG G3 (SD 801, sd card) for $230, or Samsung Galaxy S5 (SD801, sd card) for just under $300. All of these roughly fall into the same performance bracket at OnePlus One/X, but offer specific versions with the LTE Band 17 used by AT&T in USA that the OnePlus X lacks.
And finally, speaking of Nexus 5X, early reviews suggest it's not all that great or the kind of a diamond in rough that Nexus 5 or OnePlus One used to be, in part thanks the slow storage performance because of the new encryption scheme and once again thanks to the SD808. Considering the price of the base Nexus 5X, I think you could do better with buying a OnePlus 2, which has all the same specs but more memory and slightly faster SoC.
Anandtech has a very thorough review of 5X:
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review
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The Asus Zenfone 2 Laser has average SoC performance, but better battery life and better camera (screen is the same).
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I can attest to the Zenfone 2 Laser's battery life. It has an insane capacity! One of my friends just bought the ZF2 Laser, and he constantly gets around 9-10 hrs SoT. And it's not even as if he keeps the screen on doing nothing, he puts it through light to moderate usage - playing light games, browsing, whatsapp, etc with wi-fi on the whole day, but the damn thing just keeps on going!
As far as the performance is concerned, the SD410 is doing a very satisfactory job. So far I've not seen any slowdowns/lags/stuttering whatsoever. So its going pretty smooth as of now.
What about the Huawei Honor 7? It has similar specs and also the price is almost the same (at least in Europe - 270 EUR vs. 300 EUR).
While we compare, what is the software update record of Asus, Huawei, Acer etc? I think Oneplus is going to support their devices for longer than any of those
Currently have a Nexus 5, not sure if it was right to "upgrade". Damn I am gonna miss wireless charging
it is not "upgrade". it is a "sidegrade"
The yu yutopia when it releases with SD 810 at the price of ₹21,000 32gb
Stop suggesting 5.5 phablets. This thread is about 5 in Phones.

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