Hello,
As M1 and RN5Pro both have snapdragon 636 soc, why both differ in wifi configuration?
zenfone M1 does not support 5gz ac band while RN5Pro does?
As far as i can figure out, this could be due to aggressive price set up by asus, as 5gz would cost them more to have it enabled?
And if so, can a custom ROM or binaries from RN5Pro can eventually give us 5gz band in future?
Any inputs?
Thanks.
ashjas said:
Hello,
As M1 and RN5Pro both have snapdragon 636 soc, why both differ in wifi configuration?
zenfone M1 does not support 5gz ac band while RN5Pro does?
As far as i can figure out, this could be due to aggressive price set up by asus, as 5gz would cost them more to have it enabled?
And if so, can a custom ROM or binaries from RN5Pro can eventually give us 5gz band in future?
Any inputs?
Thanks.
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Actually, the smartphone antennas don't come along with the chipset. It is the circuit board that houses the antennas. So there might be differences in wifi capabilities.
It is true that this phone does not use 5GHz wifi. But it wouldn't be a problem for anyone, unless you use a router with 5GHz. Most routers have 2.4 set as the default.
although the antennas come differently but the wifi band, network bands, are supplied by the maker of the cpu.
so as rn5 supports qc but our phone doesnt support qc Asus would have to pay extra to support wifi 5ghz.
regarding getting binaries from rn5 it will be challenging to do that to add support to 5ghz
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does Nexus 4 has 5 G WI-FI (802.11ac) chips built in ?
i thought its just b/g/n but Phil Nickinson (AndroidCentral.com) states it does
https://plus.google.com/+PhilNickinson/posts/cpqQ8FhS3tT
Yes the nexus 4 does have the 5ghz band. It is under wireless, and from there it is under advanced settings
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guys, forgive my ignorance. Im a little confuse here.
Just for clarification.
In tech world terms, is the WIFI 802.11ac chip is the same as a dual band wifi 2.4 and 5 GHz chip ?
5ghz is not ac. Both n and ac use 5ghz, but they're not the same thing. It's like how wireless a, b and g use the 2.4ghz spectrum but they're not the same standard.
so in conclusion in this thread, the Nexus 4 does not have WIFI 802.11ac chip but has a WIFI 802.11n dual band chips.
by the way, which do you think is better in a smartphone device in the future?
a single band 5GHz WIFI 802.11ac chip or a WIFI 802.11n dual band (2.5 and 5 GHz) ?
802.11ac will be available in the Snapdragon S800, the technology was "apparently" not available when the S4 Pro was considered.
Ace42 said:
802.11ac will be available in the Snapdragon S800, the technology was "apparently" not available when the S4 Pro was considered.
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I do not believe the Nexus 4 supports AC. However it does support 5GHz 802.11n
I know that it might be off topic, but I think that most wireless routers you'll encounter today - and a couple years from now - will probably not even have dual band, let alone 802.11ac. I'm not trying to push back technology but it takes two to tango, and most routers aren't in a "dance" mode.
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I've been searching for a while and i just cant seem to find the answer. I just upgraded from an AC 1200 to an AC 1900 router. My note 4's wifi link speed on the AC 1200 maxed out at 867 mb/s. on 5ghz which is the max for AC 1200.
Now with the new router it still only connects at 867mb/s and not the max link speed the new AC 1900 router should provide.
I know it dosent matter, has nothing to do with why i bought the router and is plenty fast enough... but it's bugging me.
I just want to know if the N4 tops out at 867mb/s? Has anyone gotten anything higher for a link speed?
thanks!!
I certainly haven't gotten anything higher than that with my RT-AC87 and my Note 4. Only topped out at 700-something Mbps while being in the same room as the router itself.
Usually, the bandwidth numbers on these routers are inflated for marketing reasons anyway. Sometimes they mash together the total theoretical bandwidth for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands, sometimes they assume you're using 3x3 clients (I'm pretty sure the Note 4 and most other smartphones and laptops are just 2x2), and sometimes they conveniently ignore the fact that Wi-Fi is an inherently half-duplex connection (transmit OR receive, not both, so your bandwidth's halved for bidirectional communication).
Your new router is probably only a dual band. Two channels of 433 Mbs. = 867Mbs. I have a Nighthawk Tri Band router which will combine 3 channels to allow 1.3Gbs. However I have no devices that support triband connections. My Surface Pro 3 and Samsung Tab S only connect at 867Mbs. Even the new Note 5 specs say Dual Band for the .AC radio spec. I haven't seen any new phones with a Triband spec yet.
Well, the specs of Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ( ZE551KL - US) say abut WiFi: "WLAN 802.11 b/g/n" . And indeed, only the 2.4GHz band is working, nothing in 5GHz.
On the other hand, Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 MSM8939 is supposed to work with "Qualcomm® VIVE™ 1-stream 802.11n/ac with MU-MIMO†" - with the note "† Digital integrated in SoC, Analog added via additional chip".
Note that "ac" (5GHz) is listed. So Asus really didn't add the required analog portion for the 5GHz? Or is something that might be enabled with a future driver?
I seem to remember reading before I bought it that it couldn't do 5ghz Wi-Fi, but idk if that rules out future support or not.
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My older MotoX first gen could do 5GHz. In today's crowded WiFi its a big let down.
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I thought the SOC just had the interface for those components, but that a module was necessary to actually use it. the 615 may have the interface for 2.4Ghz BGN / 5Ghz AC, but you still need the hardware (usually in the form of a single WiFi/Bluetooth/NFC/FM/etc module).
I could be wrong, though.
See tests here;
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9260/the-huawei-p8-review/5
WiFi Performance
Moving on to WiFi performance we address one of the most critical faults of the P8: Lack of 5GHz WiFi. There were already some raised eyebrows during the official announcement where we couldn't find any mention of 802.11ac in any of the spec sheets, and indeed, the device comes without support for the higher frequency bands.
This raises some big questions about Huawei's choice of RF back-end and what exactly is going on there. Connectivity itself is provided by a Broadcom BCM4334, which is quite an ancient chipset by today's standards, as we first saw its introduction in 2012. Broadcom advertises max PHY rates of up to 150Mbps and upper layer rates of up to 90Mbps - and 5GHz is definitely listed as one of its capabilities. This is the same chip used in the Honor 6 and Mate 7, which did have 5GHz capability. In the end only Huawei knows what kind of decision-making process warranted such a significant omission of an every-day important feature.
Possible fix i will try tonight:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...slow-wifi-speed-happens-with-one-router-only/
I changed my wifi from standby to always. Weird things started to happen..
Test1 = 8.5 DLL / 4 UL
Test2 = 2.4 DLL / 0.3 UL
Test3 = 8.4 DLL / 4 UL
In test2 i wasn't downloading anything what so ever.
On my tablet i have stable 70 DLL / 5 ULL in every test i do.
Damn this sucks! I was going to buy p8 lite, now I need to look somewhere else.
Still waiting for fix
m waiting for fix
ward0 said:
See tests here;
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9260/the-huawei-p8-review/5
WiFi Performance
Moving on to WiFi performance we address one of the most critical faults of the P8: Lack of 5GHz WiFi. There were already some raised eyebrows during the official announcement where we couldn't find any mention of 802.11ac in any of the spec sheets, and indeed, the device comes without support for the higher frequency bands.
This raises some big questions about Huawei's choice of RF back-end and what exactly is going on there. Connectivity itself is provided by a Broadcom BCM4334, which is quite an ancient chipset by today's standards, as we first saw its introduction in 2012. Broadcom advertises max PHY rates of up to 150Mbps and upper layer rates of up to 90Mbps - and 5GHz is definitely listed as one of its capabilities. This is the same chip used in the Honor 6 and Mate 7, which did have 5GHz capability. In the end only Huawei knows what kind of decision-making process warranted such a significant omission of an every-day important feature.
Possible fix i will try tonight:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...slow-wifi-speed-happens-with-one-router-only/
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For some reason my Huawei p8 lite doesn't connect to wifi using n wifi network. Is it a software issue? I am sure that router is fine since other devices connect to it using n wifi
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For some reason my Huawei p8 lite doesn't connect to wifi using n wifi network. Is it a software issue? I am sure that router is fine since other devices connect to it using n wifi
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yes, i have same problem.
This solution only works if you do not switch to airplane mode.. The best I have found is getting kernel adiutor and changing tcp to reno instead of cubic.
Hi everyone, I'm just waiting for this new phone to be arrived home, wondering why isn't listed by asus site the quickcharging feature while Qualcomm ensures Snapdragon 430 supports quickcharge, 3.0 indeed.
Do you think Asus just disabled this feature as a marketing move, or as I think it is, their websites and webstores admins are really overwhelmed by the huge amount of variations offered for each device.. leading this into somehow missing important feature data on their webs.... (LTE bands specs are also quite hard to differ) ???
What do you think about it?
PD: Put some links as info sources
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Apparently it does not have further circuitry to support the quickcharge feature, even though it's supported by cpu itself.