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[Q] Charging

Hey all, haven't been able to find an answer for this. So I'll open a new thread. Now the question. The phone seems to take a long time to charge. Is it possible for me to use my Note 4's quick charger or can anyone recomend a faster charger for this phone? Charging it with Note 4's 2a charger wont damage the battery? Thank you.

I use a 2.1 out and it charges in about an hour and a half

Charging isn't fast and it seems that if the phone gets warm, it draws less power then too - so on a warm day, it can feel like it's taking years.
Would have been nice to have had wireless charging support and/or turbo charging, but alas not.

jonmorris said:
Charging isn't fast and it seems that if the phone gets warm, it draws less power then too - so on a warm day, it can feel like it's taking years.
Would have been nice to have had wireless charging support and/or turbo charging, but alas not.
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Doesn't the phone support quick charging? But Huawei haven't bundled the appropriate charger?

Doesn't appear to. I've got a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 adapter and it doesn't seem any faster, nor say fast charging.

There's a quirk, when the battery shows 100% it actually still keep charging for another 30 minutes. All tests showed that it took 3hours+ to fully charge it. So quick charge my ass.

So just to update, I have tried charging it with note 4's fast charger and it charges the phone from 20 to 100% in about an hour and a half. Which imo isn't that bad. With the included charger, it took me around 2 and a half hours... Huawei really should have included a charger with higher amp, 1 is way to low.

Winston1989 said:
So just to update, I have tried charging it with note 4's fast charger and it charges the phone from 20 to 100% in about an hour and a half. Which imo isn't that bad. With the included charger, it took me around 2 and a half hours... Huawei really should have included a charger with higher amp, 1 is way to low.
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It's sadly very common for phones to ship with poor chargers (1A and even lower), but then again - some phones these days come with NO charging adapter, assuming you'll have a ton of them anyway.
I use a 2.1A 5V charger, but I've tried the faster ones (that can output 9V) and it doesn't speed things up, so while it can charge faster with a better PSU, it won't ever charge as quick as many other flagships. Mind you, has the G4 been given full support yet? Likewise, the Z3 is down as supporting Quick Charge 2.0 on Qualcomm's website, but then turns out to be only some variants. Makes me wonder if the Z3+ supports it in every guise.
Not sure what the reasoning is for devices that could support faster charging not actually allowing it, especially if the manufacturer could profit from selling faster chargers separately.

jonmorris said:
It's sadly very common for phones to ship with poor chargers (1A and even lower), but then again - some phones these days come with NO charging adapter, assuming you'll have a ton of them anyway.
I use a 2.1A 5V charger, but I've tried the faster ones (that can output 9V) and it doesn't speed things up, so while it can charge faster with a better PSU, it won't ever charge as quick as many other flagships. Mind you, has the G4 been given full support yet? Likewise, the Z3 is down as supporting Quick Charge 2.0 on Qualcomm's website, but then turns out to be only some variants. Makes me wonder if the Z3+ supports it in every guise.
Not sure what the reasoning is for devices that could support faster charging not actually allowing it, especially if the manufacturer could profit from selling faster chargers separately.
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I read an article about Huawei declining fast-charge for "battery-purposes" so it can have a longer life cycle. But i think Huawei made an exception about the Huawei Honor 7.
I had an Samsung before and never had problems with fast-charging whatsoever.
My P8 was full in about 2 hours with an 2.1 A charger, while my Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3 took 1,5 hours.

the screenshoot took from Huawei P8 & P8 Max Launching Event 2015 said that p8 has quick charge at min 21.30 but they didnt talk about that in the event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uLe3q4wHjE

Here's a quick charger for the Huawei P8 : http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Charger-Charging-voltages-charging/dp/9713256832
I did not buy it, but it says it charges at 9V 2.1A

IkeaKast said:
Here's a quick charger for the Huawei P8 : http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Charger-Charging-voltages-charging/dp/9713256832
I did not buy it, but it says it charges at 9V 2.1A
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I think this adaptor isn't safe to p8max.. I will try another charger but only 5v with higher amp that will be safe for sure
Now i charge with stock from 3%to100% in about 2.5 h and the phone didn't tell me to remove charger for more half ahour!!
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sehooo said:
I think this adaptor isn't safe to p8max.. I will try another charger but only 5v with higher amp that will be safe for sure
Now i charge with stock from 3%to100% in about 2.5 h and the phone didn't tell me to remove charger for more half ahour!!
Sent from my HUAWEI P8max using XDA Free mobile app
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I dont know, its 9V 2.1A, so it is quick charge. But i dont know if it is for MAX. I can charge fast. maybe 1.5h/2h?

Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL quick charge not working

I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?

Gustapo said:
I tried the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 quick charger on my ZE550KL 2GB ram model. The starting battery percent was 18% and after about half an hour the battery was still at 42%. I read on Qualcomm's website that SD410 supports quick charging 2.0. But the results speak otherwise. Could it be the software restricting quick charge?
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I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.

The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this

Gustapo said:
The 410 is also quick charge compliant as well. Check this
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The processor supports quick charge, but as far as I know, it's not implemented in the phone.

Yes I tried it too recently and the best rate at which phone charging was 1.1A (I used 2.1A charger, it took 3 hrs to charge from 10% to 100%)
Either we should all ask ASUS to enable fast charging in coming updates or wait for someone to build custom kernel that supports fast charging.

if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.

Gustapo said:
if it's any consolation, the moto g3 also doesn't supports quick charging. It also has SD 410. 3 hours is the time is takes for me to charge it to full with the provided OEM charger as well.
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I had Moto G 2015 for couple of weeks. Didn't really use wall charger enough, I used USB charging through PC most of the times so can't really say about charging time.
I found some references online they claimed Moto g3 does charge faster, here is one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/charge-time-t3171725
As far as the laser is concerned, has anyone raised this issue with them on forums?
can't bear slow charging :crying:

It more than likely has to do with the USB configuration so I doubt any software update will enable that, but to be fair it could be a software based limitation. The USB component needs to allow for the high throughput though.
I personally don't feel too negative about the charge time because I came from an iPhone 5S that doesn't have quickcharging. I am sure for others it is like watching paint dry though.

What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.

suhridkhan said:
What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.

dexter20082001 said:
Have you tested this? Devices will only pull what they are able from a charger so if it was designed to drawl up to 1.35A then even with a 2A charger it will only drawl 1.35A.
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I think you are right on this. I just tested and even with a 2A charger it takes more than 3 hours to charge the phone.

Anyone tried using qualcomm 2.0 certified quick chargers?

From this zentalk link, looks like my suspicion was correct. Event though SD 410 supports quickcharge, Asus limited the circuits etc. to not take 2A. Sad!

At least it charges faster on super saving mode.
35% in 60 mins on Normal mode
41% in 60 mins on super saving mode

suhridkhan said:
What I find most disturbing about the phone is that, it came with a 1A charger. You can save some significant charging time if yo use a standard 2A charger.
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My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.

hkwildboy said:
My ZE601KL comes with a 2A charger in the box. I would say it charges quick when battery is real low and slows down when it close to 80% to complete the rest of the charging cycle.
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Quick charge is supposed to charge from 0 to 60% in 30 minutes then slow to normal speed.

heywheelie said:
I thought that only the SD 615 version of the ZE550KL was quick charge compatible.
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You sure 615 version support quick charge?

i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy

BulldozerAMD said:
i can use qc2.0 on ZE550KL(Z00LD) Snapdragon 615 so enjoy
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Are you sure that quick charge works?
What kernel are you using?

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Charge speed I'd say is good considering the battery size. ~ 2 1/2 hours for full charge according to my screen tests so far, and that is while using it too.

XDA_RealLifeReview said:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Takes forever

ScottBroker said:
Takes forever
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Especially when you wait for first full charge to complete before turning it on ?

Too51oll said:
Especially when you wait for first full charge to complete before turning it on
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ya, after the first charge its not so bad.

Battery life is great, and idle batter loss is minimal compared with last two tab s's I'm not complaining about charging speed

Charging the Tab S4 takes me 3 - 3 1/2 hours for me from 0% using the stock fast charger from the box.

AaronRX said:
Charging the Tab S4 takes me 3 - 3 1/2 hours for me from 0% using the stock fast charger from the box.
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Qc4.0 or qc3.0

Not sure how fast it charges but since I can never drain the battery completely in a single day (usually at 20-30% by the time I go to bed with heavy use), I turned off fast charging and charge the tablet while I sleep. It`s always fully charged by the time I wake up and hopefully turning off fast charging increases the longevity of the battery over the course of a few years.

poppy2 said:
Qc4.0 or qc3.0
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Might be QC 2.0/3.0. Can't really pinpoint it since I returned the tablet.

poppy2 said:
Qc4.0 or qc3.0
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Tab S4 only supports QC2.0 as every Samsung device.

AaronRX said:
Might be QC 2.0/3.0. Can't really pinpoint it since I returned the tablet.
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Samsung Adaptive fast charging is equivalent and compatible with QC 2.0
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
Don't get too excited
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Too51oll said:
Tab S4 only supports QC3.0 as every Samsung device.
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Samsung adaptive fast charging is 5v or 9v which is a partial implementation of QC 2.0

1eStar said:
Samsung Adaptive fast charging is equivalent and compatible with QC 2.0
https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-does-fast-charging-work/
Don't get too excited
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Samsung adaptive fast charging is 5v or 9v which is a partial implementation of QC 2.0
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Yes, typo on my end. I've corrected my post.

Just tested with usb voltmeter from ali.
If screen is off then 9V, 1.5A (fast charge).
If screen is on - 5V, 1.5A. Not bad also, but can be better

speed_boy said:
Just tested with usb voltmeter from ali.
If screen is off then 9V, 1.5A (fast charge).
If screen is on - 5V, 1.5A. Not bad also, but can be better
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Hmm just bought one of the 12v 2a Samsung chargers, don't have a volt meter so can't test but wonder if it has the same issue...

jaykoerner said:
Hmm just bought one of the 12v 2a Samsung chargers, don't have a volt meter so can't test but wonder if it has the same issue...
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12v is for their wireless charger

Charging with the original Keyboard Cover
The charging time is normaly ok. But when the tablet is in the keyboard cover it takes a lot of time. More than 12 hours.
Any idea?
Thank you for your answer.

muellerp said:
The charging time is normaly ok. But when the tablet is in the keyboard cover it takes a lot of time. More than 12 hours.
Any idea?
Thank you for your answer.
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Got same problem... Don't know why. Any sensor maybe?

I find I have to switch my Tab S4 OFF to charge otherwise it will take all day. Switch it off and it charges from empty in arouns 2.5 hours.

Personally I don't have QC enabled on any of my devices. I plan on buying the Korean 256/6GiB LTE version to replace my Note 8 in the next 2 months for visual/screen usage reasons. Since I don't believe in letting the battery drain below 30% (it's better for devices), I will be charging it normally without QC to see how it fairs. Typically devices are shipped from factory anywhere from 50~80% charge state.
Though not to mention that having a "to spec" charger and USB-C cable is important for proper QC function if you're using that.

warp charge for regular 6t?

Will the new warp charge be supported on the regular 6t?

It's mostly different hardware and battery type I would think and already stated wont work with previous models.
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I thought 6t already full charges in 30mins, not sure how much time warp is really saving? Some websites says 50% in 20mins, which is not true since 6T charges fully in about 30mins.
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Looks like you save 10mins with warp charge.
Unmatched speed is at the heart of the OnePlus 6T McLaren Edition, with new technology including Warp Charge 30, OnePlus’ new charging standard. Warp Charge 30 takes fast charging to new heights and never leaves people waiting, offering a day’s power in just 20 minutes. Thanks to the new charger and battery design, as well as a finely tuned power management system, power flows to the handset without slowing down even when the device is being used, or generating excessive heat.

coolguy said:
I thought 6t already full charges in 30mins, not sure how much time warp is really saving? Some websites says 50% in 20mins, which is not true since 6T charges fully in about 30mins.
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According to OnePlus, the 6T charges from 0-60% in 35 minutes. Charging from 0-100% in my experience has been ~80-90 minutes IIRC. Not sure how you're getting a full charge in 30 minutes but if you'd like to share, I'm sure many of us would be grateful.
UPDATE: Make sure to notice the distinction between "full charge" and "a day's charge" in the marketing materials.

Ah thought it was full in 30mins, need to check again when empty
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According to OnePlus, the 6T charges from 0-60% in 35 minutes. Charging from 0-100% in my experience has been ~80-90 minutes IIRC. Not sure how you're getting a full charge in 30 minutes but if you'd like to share, I'm sure many of us would be grateful.
UPDATE: Make sure to notice the distinction between "full charge" and "a day's charge" in the marketing materials.
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So hey all, given the lawsuit mess and all of that with OnePlus, what is the charging technology called for the regular 6t? Is it dash? Is it warp? Is it just generically called fast charge? Thought this was a fitting place to ask as to not make a whole new thread for a question like this one.

H4X0R46 said:
So hey all, given the lawsuit mess and all of that with OnePlus, what is the charging technology called for the regular 6t? Is it dash? Is it warp? Is it just generically called fast charge? Thought this was a fitting place to ask as to not make a whole new thread for a question like this one.
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Dash Charge= Warp Charge=Vooc Charge
i.e.-calling it Warp is the agreement post law suit.
Warp 30= new slightly faster version of Warp which is only on Mclaren Special edition OP6T.

kitcostantino said:
Dash Charge= Warp Charge=Vooc Charge
i.e.-calling it Warp is the agreement post law suit.
Warp 30= new slightly faster version of Warp which is only on Mclaren Special edition OP6T.
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Alright thanks! So then my normal 6t technically uses warp charge. I knew that they're the very same technology as dash and vooc in China, just wondering how they figured the "correct" name in the states lol thanks again!

Testing results:
Phones were tested from 0% battery to 100%
OnePlus 6t with warp charger & cable: 91 minutes
McClaren Op6t with dash (fast) charger & cable: 78 minutes
Not my source, actual video testing here:
https://youtu.be/PMaPsIOqJvU
For xda testing look here:
https://www.xda-developers.com/onep...arp-charge-30-speed-thermal-performance-test/
The oppo find x was also included in the test using the vooc charger, it beat out both oneplus chargers, charging from 0% to 100% on only 32 minutes.

Confirmed
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Will the new warp charge be supported on the regular 6t?
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it actually works. Check out Dave lee on youtube, he does a test on it. Everyone else in this thread will just give you damned speculations and lame ass opinions. I like people who can prove things by actually testing things.

So not much of a difference when charging to 100%.

No there's a huge difference...they're using the slower Dash charger with the new Mclaren just to see how fast it charges on it. The correct charger for it is the warp charger and it'll charge it about twice as quickly.

tekdemon said:
No there's a huge difference...they're using the slower Dash charger with the new Mclaren just to see how fast it charges on it. The correct charger for it is the warp charger and it'll charge it about twice as quickly.
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That's the second test you're talking about. The first test shows that warp is of course faster until about 60% and then it's slowing down so that both phones reach 100% pretty much after the same time.

Both phones with their own chargers

Phones with changed chargers

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To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy S10 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Samsung S10 has 15W fast charging. Itseems that it can charge quickly than the previous version of s series.

It irks that adaptive fast charging remained unchanged from last year and hurts that faster 25W is exclusive to the 5G model .

Reg the new Wireless Charging 2.0.
Where can I get the Wireless charger in UK?
Cheers

I was told that the Galaxy S10 would be capable of 25 watt charging. The advertisement I watched said 0-50% in 30 minutes, and hell my Galaxy S9+ does that. I mean, if there is literally a 0% increase in charging speed I will be just fine. My battery lasts all day (I run medium power saver) and I just charge it at night when I am asleep. I have been as high as 40% charge when I hook it up and last night I was at like 13% and that is the lowest it has been ever, so I really do not feel this will be an issue.

wafcarl said:
Reg the new Wireless Charging 2.0.
Where can I get the Wireless charger in UK?
Cheers
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Mobilefun.co.uk
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juliusjadey said:
Samsung S10 has 15W fast charging. Itseems that it can charge quickly than the previous version of s series.
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And wireless is 12W
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https://youtu.be/mxy_zUBwMhs

Notefan161 said:
Mobilefun.co.uk
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And wireless is 12W
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https://youtu.be/mxy_zUBwMhs
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Even the wireless has 12W that won't charge as fast than the 10W wall mount charger. It seems that, wireless will charger slower than the wall mount right?

Josh Quinonez, YouTuber, did a from 0% to 100% charge with the power pack that comes packaged with the phone. You can watch the video here:
1hr 37mins to go from 0%-100%.

senor360 said:
Josh Quinonez, YouTuber, did a from 0% to 100% charge with the power pack that comes packaged with the phone. You can watch the video here:
1hr 37mins to go from 0%-100%.
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Took me around the same with the phone on. (1hr 40mins)

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I was told that the Galaxy S10 would be capable of 25 watt charging. The advertisement I watched said 0-50% in 30 minutes, and hell my Galaxy S9+ does that. I mean, if there is literally a 0% increase in charging speed I will be just fine. My battery lasts all day (I run medium power saver) and I just charge it at night when I am asleep. I have been as high as 40% charge when I hook it up and last night I was at like 13% and that is the lowest it has been ever, so I really do not feel this will be an issue.
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you leave it plugged in at night?
I never do that. I usually charge to 85 to 90% and then unplug. I read an article a while ago that said never let your Lithium ion batter go below 20 or above 80 and you will get the good performance you get when it's new for longer.

lame A$$ its 2019 and the best they can give us is half the Quick Charge 4+ spec pathetic...

futiless said:
lame A$$ its 2019 and the best they can give us is half the Quick Charge 4+ spec pathetic...
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on the launch date event, that guy said 25W charging.
not sure if he referring to the 10+ 5G only or what.

netnerd said:
not sure if he referring to the 10+ 5G only or what.
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I believe that was the case. 5G model only.
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

You see I know how many Samsung fans there are out there but... failing to surpass the limits of 3 years ago and give us anything better than what we can expect from QC 2 while employing the latest latest in Snapdragon chipsets is clearly pathetic. People spending more than a grand deserve more. They are just holding back on implementing it for future phones requiring something to look forward to. All I'm saying is paying for the chipset and the flagship should win you the actual real-world benefits of something Qualcomm has put the road map since 2015. After all it was the taking point for years.

juliusjadey said:
Samsung S10 has 15W fast charging. Itseems that it can charge quickly than the previous version of s series.
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You are right, it has 15W charger BUT, if you charge via USB-PD charger, the device pulls 20W when the screen is off, and 10W if you use the device, I just tested that wuth Omnicharge battery with USB-PD so it should be about 30% faster when using USB-PD

khristov said:
You are right, it has 15W charger BUT, if you charge via USB-PD charger, the device pulls 20W when the screen is off, and 10W if you use the device, I just tested that wuth Omnicharge battery with USB-PD so it should be about 30% faster when using USB-PD
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So you're saying the S10 somehow supports 20W charging? Which charger do I need for that?

memocatcher said:
So you're saying the S10 somehow supports 20W charging? Which charger do I need for that?
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Yes, this is what I metered with the external battery. What you need is 20W or above USB-PD compatible charger, for example from laptop or whatever other device you have that uses USB-PD charger. I have the Exynos version and the phone's adapter is no go, it is only 9V 1.67A...
The 5G version officially supports 25W as I recall but there is nothing mentioned about the 4G normal version

khristov said:
Yes, this is what I metered with the external battery. What you need is 20W or above USB-PD compatible charger, for example from laptop or whatever other device you have that uses USB-PD charger. I have the Exynos version and the phone's adapter is no go, it is only 9V 1.67A...
The 5G version officially supports 25W as I recall but there is nothing mentioned about the 4G normal version
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Can u may link ur charger?
Or is that one okay too? https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CVS68K5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HsTHCbMCEHS9P

Slowwww charging is my only complaint with this phone thus far.

memocatcher said:
Can u may link ur charger?
Or is that one okay too? https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07CVS68K5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HsTHCbMCEHS9P
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Yes, This should be okay
I used this battery for testing
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Omnicharge...ds=omnicharge&qid=1552379288&s=gateway&sr=8-3