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Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?

Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
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For me the reason is simple, it has more features and productive. My brother has the iphone 6+ and it felt
like using the my old iphone 5 except the 6+ is bigger.

for me really i dont know i just wanted to buy lg g flex 2 but i found it lag like hell
i tried to fet htc phaplet but did not find one with big scree
i bought note 4 with snapdragin 805
but really dont like heat so much and else lag sometimes
but i love the pen and the fantastic screen

[Q] Why Samsung Galaxy note 4?
harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
harkz.com/why-note-4
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The iPhone 6 is not a phablet
I have both the Note 4 & iPhone 6+
I use both about the same and change which is my daily driver every few days.
Hardware wise they are very different, but really that hasn't made much difference to me in my day to day use of either device as I tend to use the exact same apps on both devices.
Screenwise :- I honestly can't say I can see a difference between the 1080p screen v the 2k screen. Both just look like great screens - though the iPhones does get brighter and is easier to see in outside daylight. The Note 4's gets dimmer and more comfortable at nighttime.
Speakers :- the iPhone 6+ speaker is clearer than the Note 4's which can sound a little tinny and distorted at full volume.
Camera :- main cameras outside of megapixel differences are able to capture very similar results with neither being much better than the other. 1080p recording on iPhone 6+ does benefit with much better OIS over the Note 4 - however Note 4's 4k recording is some of the best 4k quality I've seen on a smartphone and clearly iPhone can't do that.
Removable storage and battery are nice to have but aren't deal breakers for me.
Note 4 main benefits are mainly the S-Pen features for me. I can doodle / etch a picture on the fly. I can scribble down notes quickly.
The customisability is too its strength.
IPhone 6+ strength is its software consistency and fluidity.
People will tell you that Note 4 is better at multitasking and iPhone 6+ is terrible because of less ram and yet on current lollipop builds I find it's the iPhone 6+ that handles multitasking better despite 3x less ram.
On KitKat they are similar in my daily experience but with a nudge to the Note 4.
Here's my Lollipop experience. Notice the Note 4 has to refresh app content in many applications and the iPhone 6+ doesn't despite less ram. Most of these were Google apps that I use every day.
Battery wise they are similar too but with nudge this time going to iPhone 6+
IPhone 6 version is poor battery wise compared to either.
Overall I think both a great handsets and a person will be served greatly by either (or both as I am).....
Buy in confidence whichever you choose.

becouse specs

Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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RISHI RAJ said:
Note 4 for Faster charging,cheap,very good screen,customisation but iphone 6 plus is faster in terms of app opening & better front camera,fingerprint scanning,its iphone name.
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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?

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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone

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Better camera on the iPhone, you really think so?
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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Yes,definitely Im talking about the front camera.Although I do find primary cameras of both equal
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Sorry my mistake, I thought you were talking about rear camera, I'm dyslexic.

I think it depends on what and how you use your smart phone...
I have moved thru many phones. And always went back to the note series.
My reasons:
Big screen - really struggle with anything smaller than 5.5 inch
S-pen - love the note taking and has been massively improved for handwriting recognition in the note 4 compared to previous notes
Camera - i have used and compared with S5, iPhone 6 and 6+, LG g3, lumia 930 and HTC m8 and I gotta say I BELIEVE it's the best overall.
SD slot and usb on the go - i have 2 64gb cards and 3 32gb SanDisk usb/micro on the go sticks and they are used for work, movies and docs.
Removable battery - i am a very heavy user - monthly usage - 100gb mobile data, 1000 emails, 3000 txt/whatsapp, 40hrs calls average, I use thru out the day 2 full batteries lasting a combined of 17hrs approx (in retrospect iPhone 6+ lasts me 6/7hrs)
Thats me... Everyone is very different but for me Note series wins everytime
For reference these are phones I've used in last 24months in no order:
Note 3, Note 4, galaxy s4, galaxy s5, LG g3, HTC m8, HTC m7, lumia 930, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, xperia ultra

wEaKlY27 said:
yeah i can say iphone 6+'s front camera is better than note 4. i find it brighter and clearer compared to our phone but the main camera is way better than the iphone
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I'm 110% sure that the front camera on the iPhone 6 Plus isn't even comparable with the front camera on the Note 4.
Not only is the front camera on the Note 4 much better in camera quality over the iPhone 6 Plus, but the front camera on the Note 4 even record videos in higher resolution than the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus does. That alone tells us how much iPhone 6 / 6 Plus is behind the competition.
The front camera on the Note 4 can record videos in 1440p with pretty good quality. Here you have one video that is recorded with the front camera on the Note 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZakP0hjWT3g
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.

Tom-Helge said:
And don't get me started on how bad the main camera on the iPhone 6 Plus is compared to the Note 4's main camera. Yes, the iPhone 6 Plus camera is still good, but the Note 4's main camera is in it's own league there and it's much much better when it comes to provinding details in the pictures.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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If you just looks at the pictures as you see them, then you might not see much differences. But once you start to see the pictures in full size, you will right away see that the camera on the iPhone 6 Plus can't keep up with the Note 4.
Here is a picture taken with the iPhone 6 Plus.
Now, here is the same picture taken with the Note 4.
Now take a look at the signs on the roof in those 2 pictures. Do you see the text there on the picture the iPhone 6 Plus have taken?
On the picture the Note 4 have taken, you can easily see the text there. On the iPhone 6 Plus picture, it's almost impossible to see the text there.
Here is a 100% crop of the iPhone 6 Plus picture.
Here is the 100% crop picture to the Note 4.
Again, the iPhone 6 Plus can't even be comparable to the Note 4 as the iPhone 6 Plus camera lacks the details in the pictures.
EDIT: Just to make my point evne stronger: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...ts-a-Canon-DSLR-and-the-iPhone-6-Plus_id66093
The iPhone 6 Plus got crushed by the Note 4 in that blind camera test.

harkzph said:
Why wil you choose Galaxy note 4? comapare to other phablet . and its competitor iphone 6?
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Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.

jayesh said:
Irritating question designed to bring all kinds of trollish responses. Since you have gone ahead and asked anyway. I chose both. I like both platforms and both these phones bring something unique in their own way. I prefer the note 4 for its camera for daylight and the iPhone 6 for lowlight and its consistency.
You cannot go wrong with either.
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You are spot on, I have both and they are both fantastic in their own way. However if a person wanted the best camera then the Note 4 is the one to go for.
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Really? I was testing today alongside my moto x 2014 and quality with all of them was much the same. Certainly do not think owning the devices that there is a big difference.
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Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.

GTCC said:
Was that the Three Sisters by any chance? I heading back home in a few weeks and I'm bringing a few Brits(friends) with me to show them the crack and gods own country in the Kingdom, can't wait.
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No more northerly on Kerry coast that than the three sisters which are Ballydavid (Dingle Peninsula) direction. This would be closer to Kerry Head

Well, I like Apple ecosystem but Note 4 Super AMOLED screen is a deal breaker for me. I read a lot of manga (black and white japanese comics) on a phone and I say black looks more vivid on a Super AMOLED screen. I study japanese too so the ability to draw chinese letters (kanji) with a Spen is also great. I also have the liberty to just run Nintendo DS japanese kanji learning and drawing games with a stylus... Without having to carry the extra Nintendo DS weight... Thats impossible on a iPhone 6 Plus.

I really love the floating windows option.
Other than that, huge screen, spen, sflip cover, removable battery and expendable memory.
Kind regards, Stefan.

dxomark just rated the LG G6 camera an 84, agree or disagree?

By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
What sites are recommended for smartphone camera reviews? Is dxomark considered trustworthy?

No, not really, they have been proven to be unreliable when it comes to phone reviews. They gave 1+5 stabilization 87 (it has no ois and 4k is shaky as an earthquake), and they gave g6 - 84. That should tell you enough.

DxO should not be held as bastions of smartphone camera quality. They have given a number of devices high scores which clearly were undeserved or not representative of actual real usage. Xperia Z5 for example or even last year's HTC 10 which whilst every reviewer acknowledged camera software was buggy to say the least at launch, leading to very blurry images, DxO testing ignored that and awarded it what was then its highest score.
With OEM's now openly tuning their software to score better DxO marks and many paying DxO for the privilege, the validity of their artificial testing methodology and what it actually means for end users is an ever growing disparity.
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
If your happy with the end results, DxO means sweet nothing, and is just as much about posturing as those who obsess over other artificial metrics and benchmarks that have little in common with real world usage.
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I still like the gsmarena charts (normal light and low-light)
But, since the manual mode became a thing (finally). I would honestly want to see multiple ISOs and RAW. I use RAW quite a lot (especially since snapseed works with it on the phone so I don't have to wait for a PC) and I remember clearly switching from LG G4 to S6 and S7 that the photos were underwhelming compared to G4. Especially low light long exposure ones.
I don't care that much for "who has the best jpeg out of the box" thing. If I have an important photo I will go through it in photoshop and apply different levels of noise reduction where necessary. If it's not that important I'll just finish it up in Snapseed and/or just straight up send the jpeg.
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
I am really interested in what the Red phone/camera will bring to the table and Nokia (coming back) also. I really wish for something like a nokia pureview 808 sensor size camera setup (or dual camera).

Mad_Duke said:
Also, I'm not that satisfied with the G5 camera. It's not a bad camera, far from it. But I wish that it would have been bigger (and more pixels like 16MP or more) and/or same megapixel count (since dual cameras so you basically have an optical zoom on it between wide and "normal") and larger sensor.
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You mean G6 r8?
Why they didn't get the idea 1st like the samsung new isocell sensor that can be configured in three different ways – Zoom, Depth sensing and Low Light shooting!

Yep. My bad when talking in a same post about G4 G6 S6 and S7 hahaha

nookcoloruser said:
I have both the Pixel, S8, iPhone 7+ and G6. Whilst I acknowledge the G6's main sensor or moreover the post processing of its software isn't as good, the extra versatility it's extra wide angle lens affords in real world usage makes it special. Offering photo opportunities I simply do not get in my other devices.
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I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.

sagor1 said:
I am disagree with your statement.They use the crap cheap mediocre sensor (IMX258) which Xiaomi & other oem use on there midrange phone.But Lg highly optimize there camera algorithm.You can check the photo compare on gsmarena or phonearen with this same sensor.
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LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
The G6 camera is very good but it's strengths come more from the versatility the two cameras offer rather than it's software post processing.

nookcoloruser said:
LG may have better post processing than Xiaomi but compared to Google and even Apple - its post processing is not as good. HDR is too aggressive and LG has a tendency to over sharpen.
Comparison is made to the top smartphone cameras - devices it clearly is in competition with - not some mid range ****e that no one really gives a feck about anyway.
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I never said it's good as apple or pixel,because they use better sensor.I just appreciated their post processing method with this sensor.
Btw in Androidauthority blind test the g6 is winner.
I don't like the iPhone camera.

http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.

htcnext said:
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-camera-shootout-780369/
Interesting that in this poll with 67,000 votes the LG G6 came out on top over the S8, OnePlus 5, HTC U11, and Pixel. I am not sure what to believe. It seems all of these camera are pretty close to one another in terms of picture quality.
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That is paid by LG

Ciro54 said:
That is paid by LG
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Oh no, my xzp is not on top, must be rigged
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Very interesting camera shootout...S8 vs G6...and guess who win? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQ7tWyA5NQ

Android Central chime in and essentially echo everything I have said about DxO and their at best 'flawed' scoring system.
https://m.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-dxomark-worthless
"Reducing a smartphone camera to a percentage score has the problem of being at once too vague and too specific. A number — a non-weighted average — doesn't do justice to the complexity of modern smartphone cameras, where performance can vary widely depending on the situation, and not all factors are equally important. At the same time, a score out of 100 implies precision. The OnePlus 5, Huawei P10 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ are all equally good, the numbers tell us. The LG G6 and Moto G4 Plus, also equal, with DxO scores of 84. Anyone who's used these devices out in the real world will tell you the reality is not even close..."
"There's also a one-point difference between a Samsung Galaxy S8 and a Sony Xperia Z5, which are light-years apart in real-world performance.
This underscores the craziness of putting stock in these single numbered scores for phone cameras, particularly when the same variance can exist between two physically identical cameras and two very, very different ones. DxO scores may well serve as a decent benchmark for the raw capabilities of each camera (personally, I think even that is debatable — see the LG G6 vs Moto G4 Plus example above), but they also have the effect of muddying important details around real-world use."
"All that being said, often DxOMark scores do match up with the observations of experienced tech reviewers. The firm correctly called the Google Pixel as the best smartphone camera of 2016. And I think most reviewers would agree that the HTC U11 has, by a slender margin, probably the best phone camera released in 2017 to date.
But that shouldn't compensate for the egregious examples of DxOMark scores not lining up with reality, the most recent of which tells us that LG's flagship phone of 2017 is only as good as a year-old Motorola mid-ranger. As a result, these scores can be pretty much worthless for directly comparing two or more phones.
Bottom line: DxO's reviews are informative and well-researched. But those numbered scores? Forget 'em."

Look, I could care less about DXO scores. Having come from the OP5, and a 6P shortly before that, I can say the G6 takes better photos than both.
The OP5 would look grainy and often blurred in areas, whereas the G6 doesn't BUT seems to be a little more flat in color.
Guess which one I can correct for after the fact...
(Hint: it's not grain or blur...)

I don't listen to DXOMark I hate them but with that being said I kind of agree with the score. The G6 takes fine pictures (albeit too processed, oversharpened and oversaturated at times) but once you start zooming in it looks terrible. Lots of compression artefacts even in daylight and way oversharpened. It's so oversharpened that the bokeh gets sharpened at times and looks like a waterpainting. My V10 had much better image quality.
My problem with this is that the images can't handle post processing very well. They quickly fall apart. My iPhone is miles better in that regard and I also prefer that camera over this one because of that.

I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.

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I'm starting to think there is differences in the software between different versions. My unit (h870) never had any problems, but I see a lot of people with h870ds complaning about camera quality. The only thing I agree with dxo is that the camera is inconsistent, sometimes I get a shot that outshines any other smartphone camera and sometimes it's just mediocre, I do hope they fix that in the software.
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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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htcnext said:
By comparison, the G4 was rated 83 and the G5 85. Also, the OnePlus 5 was rated 87. Galaxy S7 and S8 were both rated 88. And the Pixel and HTC U11 were rated 89 and 90, respectively. I thought the G6 would be rated 87 or 88.
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They rate the Sony Z5 etc so highly yet its well known that Sony has some of the worst image processing, with the IQ from their phones looking horrid on larger displays, so no I dont trust them at all. Basically the review sites love the G6 camera, but moan a little about the heavy handed NR and processing, but nothing as hectic as some other manufactures. for snaps I find the G6 auto mode perfect, and if I want a nice step up in IQ I use manual mode and process the .dng in Photoshop Express or similar.

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Possible. I have the H870 and prior to that the Korean G600 variant and neither had the issues some have said regarding compression artefacts and such.
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Nice shot.Are some of those touch-up with editing software?

Pixel 2 versus HTC U11+ camera comparison

Here's my Pixel 2 versus HTC U11+ camera comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2kSmN9qtFc
And for those who enjoy pixel peeping, here are the full-resolution images as well https://goo.gl/cXBJQU

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Here's my Pixel 2 versus HTC U11+ camera comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2kSmN9qtFc
And for those who enjoy pixel peeping, here are the full-resolution images as well https://goo.gl/cXBJQU
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Recording sound was much better on u11 but the still shots I liked the pixel better but u11 was very close both very solid cams

It's clear that at this point, just about any flagship camera since 2016 will offer great point and shoot results. We've reached the point where we have to pixel peep and split hairs to pick a winner.
The pixel's dynamic range is still incredible though.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry

I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.

As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try

Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs

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Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.

You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet

Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel

ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...

That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.

Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.

I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one

villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.

Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera

Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.

Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.

new update to camera today

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.

Regarding camera performance.

Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.

Looks more like an Alcatel Phone camera.

Sohag0910 said:
Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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You should have stuck with that pixel xl... It's amazing

Sohag0910 said:
Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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Agreed...google's image processing just can't be beat. Very much considering picking up a pixel as a secondary device just for taking photos .

TBH that is a pretty horrible quality photo

Sohag0910 said:
Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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It's actually useless without a comparision to the same scene taken with the S20+.
But sure Pixels profit hugely from the Google camera app and its software processing. But as soon as use third-party apps you can see how dated the camera hardware/sensor is. Heck, the Pixel 5 still has practically the same old tiny sensor as the Pixel 2 ( Sony IMX362 vs. IMX363). Do some video recording in bad light conditions with a Pixel and the S20 and you will see the difference in sensor quality (in favor of the S20 of course).

I know my one plus 7 pro did so much better at processing than Samsung. The s20 isn't too bad but still most Def better on the market

TheMadScientist said:
I know my one plus 7 pro did so much better at processing than Samsung. The s20 isn't too bad but still most Def better on the market
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When it comes to camera hardware/sensors there is not too much better stuff than the S20 series. The Ultra is even a little better. And the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra has by far the best camera hardware. But most phones just compensate for it with software (especially Pixels with their tiny sensors). If you used the exact same camera app (like some GCam port) on all those phones you would get a more objective comparison. Of course, most people just want a phone with stock software and no root or any deeper changes to the system. So overall camera performance can be compared on the DXOMark page for example.
And even if the S20 has the better sensor, the Pixel's Google software is just much better at processing giving it an overall better ranking.
I compared videos shot with the same app on several devices (Quick Video Recorder which can record with the screen off) and thus settled for the S20+. It was the only phone with better camera hardware than my 4 years old HTC U11. Both Pixel 4 and Xiaomi Note 10 Lite performed worse in regard to detail, lighting and noise.
If you just want a phone to go and shoot pictures with then yeah, get a Pixel.

Knotte said:
When it comes to camera hardware/sensors there is not too much better stuff than the S20 series. The Ultra is even a little better. And the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra has by far the best camera hardware. But most phones just compensate for it with software (especially Pixels with their tiny sensors). If you used the exact same camera app (like some GCam port) on all those phones you would get a more objective comparison. Of course, most people just want a phone with stock software and no root or any deeper changes to the system. So overall camera performance can be compared on the DXOMark page for example.
And even if the S20 has the better sensor, the Pixel's Google software is just much better at processing giving it an overall better ranking.
I compared videos shot with the same app on several devices (Quick Video Recorder which can record with the screen off) and thus settled for the S20+. It was the only phone with better camera hardware than my 4 years old HTC U11. Both Pixel 4 and Xiaomi Note 10 Lite performed worse in regard to detail, lighting and noise.
If you just want a phone to go and shoot pictures with then yeah, get a Pixel.
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I like the s20. It does do very well. I use a lot of the features. I do a lot in manual mode too. And previous models just didn't seem to handle as well as this. But I still like the op7pro for certain situations it does amazing