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Hi All,
I've bought both the Xiaomi Mi5s (miui 8 global) and the OnePlus 3T (oxygen OS 4.03 Android 7) and am trialling both for a few before I send the loser (if you could possibly call one of these great phones a loser) back. I'm finding it very difficult to chose.
Either phone is a huge upgrade from my previous and very safe and stable iPhone 5s. I hope you can help me resolve my conundrum.
My thoughts so far on the comparison:
Software and interfaces:
Both phones have great software but for me the xiaomi swings it on being more customisable in terms of the interface, being able to easily change themes. As nice as changing themes is however, a lot of the themes are like those Kodi skins with weird phrases like "seize the moment" plastered on the home screen. It is a nice to have though and some of them have added some clever navigation features for app sidetray access.
It has a couple of other features that are nice to haves like 'force touch' and recording calls as a standard option but both of these features I would rarely use and can live without. Miuis second space feature is a bit surplus to requirements considering fingerprint locking is all you need for security I'm not sure why I'd need to hide apps etc on another part of the phone, I also found it a bit slow to switch spaces.
Hardware:
Here the OnePlus wins, more ram more speed, not that noticeable in day to day operations but the fingerprint sensor on the Xiaomi has been disappointing, even after rescanning my thumb a couple of times it still either fails to unlock or takes a long time to unlock. The OnePlus 3T is super quick on the fingerprint unlock like the speed of light and very reliable for me. Screen sizes on both are nice, I prefer the larger OnePlus though. I would also say the microphone sensitivity on the OnePlus 3T is better in picking up the "OK google" commands. Both seem to be quite quiet on phone calls with the earphones plugged in, if you make regular conference calls this is quite annoying and there are lots of complaints on the xiaomi forums regarding this for the global rom.
Camera:
This is where the big let down is on the 3T and probably the reason I am still hanging on to the xiaomi . Despite impressive specs on paper I've found shots low in detail compared to the Xiaomi and poor when shooting moving objects. Low light performance is not great on both but overall I feel the Xiaomi Mi5s is the better camera. Video recording I can't comment, both seem to very similar. I'm not a huge photographer and don't post lots of pictures to social media so maybe I can live without it. I'm hoping something can be done with the OP3T camera to resolve some of the above issues.
Athetics and buttons etc:
I like the feel of the OP3T better but the Xiaomi is easier to hold on accounts of is size.
Anyway I hope you can help me with some thoughts here, would love to keep both but I ain't that rich, ideally I'd merge the two but it just can't happen.
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
felixjet said:
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
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OK so maybe you could suggest what's more important for you personally? Am I too hung up on the themes aspect?
Xiaomi Mi5s has a rear camera sensor with 1.55 um pixels (IMX 378 - As in the G Pixel), yet low light performance is not great? How come?
"Despite impressive camera specs on paper for 3T" - The Mi5S has more impressive specs on paper.
Because sensor is not everything my friend
I'm planning to buy Mi A1 in February. Since A1 is Snapdragon powered device in theory it's capable of SD goodies. It has slightly higher octa-core CPU(5X has hexa-core) and GPU clock speed, expandable storage and also have 4 GB of RAM unlike 5X that has 2 GB. I think it will be highly noticable in multitasking. Is there a huge deference (if any) between disabled and forced enabled Camera2API in photos? I'm worried because of it. Enabling Camera2API allows us to use Google camera from what I've heard.
Can someone post photos in different environments to let me compare them with my 5X, that would be grateful.
Hope Xiaomi release source code for this device before February, custom ROMs are "kill features for me".
If it's a bad choice tell me why.
not a major upgrade since 5x still has a support by google, camera is better, community is better since it's google,
Mi A1 released months ago but there is no source, You can't tell if this phone is interested from developers. The safe bet is to wait for a couple more weeks, maybe a month but this is just my opinion. You still can't go wrong to buy this phone. On 11.11 aliexpress will sell this phone for $184 + free shipping. this is insane price.
There's no noticeable difference in 6 or 8 cores, but difference between 2 and 4 GB of RAM is pretty huge.
I made 2 photos, one with stock Camera app(using HDR) and Google Camera app(using HDR+), I tried to make 2 exact same photos. First one is using Google Camera, second one is using stock Camera app: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VVaKFtKlq2ZNOtbz2
Also, kernel sources will be definitely released to public, question is when.
Compare with N5x, camera mia1 damn suck :v
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There's no noticeable difference in 6 or 8 cores, but difference between 2 and 4 GB of RAM is pretty huge.
I made 2 photos, one with stock Camera app(using HDR) and Google Camera app(using HDR+), I tried to make 2 exact same photos. First one is using Google Camera, second one is using stock Camera app: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VVaKFtKlq2ZNOtbz2
Also, kernel sources will be definitely released to public, question is when.
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Thanks but can you take photos other than your leg lol. Does ZSL work? As in HDR+ works without loading spinner. I would super appreciate it if you can show us some night shots with HDR+
I've just migrated from N5X to A1 and so far I'm impressed. I was afraid of slightly bigger screen, but got used to it after few hours and now 5.2" feels "small" For me the main differences:
1. 4GB RAM, multitasking is working as expected, no more unfinished HDR photos, no more launcher crashes, ..
2. CPU is much more responsive, doesn't overheat and throttle. I wasn't able to keep up big cores of N5X on long enough, they were shut down very often to keep the temeperature down.
3. A1 is faster overal, app installations took half the time of N5X
4. Stock A1 photos in low light are not very impressive. However simple mod brings gcam (so far I like the simplest version the most) with its HDR+ which does pretty much the same job as on N5X with faster processing.
5. I am not interested in custom ROMs, but A1 is limited at this for the time being
6. A1 has shameful headphones hissing noise, especially with sensitive low impedance headphones. To be fair, N5X has similar issue, however solved easily with custom kernel and lowering the headphone gain. Once Xiaomi releases kernel sources, I expect this issue to be solved in the same way too.
7. Build quality is better on A1, however it is bigger and heavier phone. Better feeling, but a bit less pocket friendly..
8. ZSL HDR works, but with same mixed results as on N5X - bunch of my test photos were blurred. Never had this issue with forced HDR mode, so I'm using it exclusively. Spinner doesn't bother me, at least I know I should keep phone steady
9. A/B partitioning is super nice for seamless updates, but I experienced some issues with Magisk. After failed installation of some modules, Magisk image probably got corrupted and I had to remove it completely and install it again without such modules. Took a bit of trial and error, but I have fully systemless rooted and modded (build.prop tweaks) phone now.
10. Oreo vs Nougat - I miss only really fast boot times and easy use of substratum. Otherwise no big loss in my eyes.
11. attached crops of test comparison photos (Stock HDR enhanced N5X vs. Gcam HDR enhanced A1). Please note that I was able to achieve sharper results with A1, but this is the only photo which I have taken with N5X as well. And there are no legs
TehGooner said:
Thanks but can you take photos other than your leg lol. Does ZSL work? As in HDR+ works without loading spinner. I would super appreciate it if you can show us some night shots with HDR+
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I was in the work, so that was the most I could do at that moment xD But you can see pretty big difference between them.
I will make 2 more photos when it's evening here and will post it.
I switched to A1 from op3. Obviously it was a forced switch as there was multiple failure in op3.
Both the phones have their own upper hands and the most I miss from op3 is the super amoled screen. Low light camera in op3 was better but then A1 has portrait mode. Looks wise A1 is not less than op3. As of now, the phone doesn't feel slower to me in daily use as compared to op3.
@TehGooner
Try to guess which photo is taken with Google Camera app: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TKD0zxZZcdPLu2WJ3
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@TehGooner
Try to guess which photo is taken with Google Camera app: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TKD0zxZZcdPLu2WJ3
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Damn it's really good.
matcho13579 said:
@TehGooner
Try to guess which photo is taken with Google Camera app: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TKD0zxZZcdPLu2WJ3
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This makes me feel good about buying A1
Can't wait to get Gcam, waiting for Oreo first before rooting.
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
I switched, and the phone is better daily driver. No lags or overheating, no more app closing because of memory running out. Does not have nfc but used only once on my Nexus. Mi remote is a cool feature though. Portrait shots are really good in daylight, and modded Google camera works great. What I don't like is that the phone should have launched with Oreo out of the box, or it should have got Oreo by now. There are no cool features like night light and life to check gestures, no double tap to check notification (this feature is present in redmi note 4, which has similar hardware). Android one seems more like a marketing strategy now.
Coming from a Nexus 5X, Mi A1 really is an upgrade. It's like having a more premium phone than Pixel devices since the device feels like an iPhone but with stock android. 4GB ram and SD625-14nm.
Hello I am planning to get a phone today around 200$ both mi a2 and lg G6 is under 200$ in my country.. which one should I get ?? I will use it mostly to watch YouTube, browsing and some lite GPS usage ..
I believe G6's camera is far superior. Plus I've come to much appreciate the wide angle camera on the same device. If camera matters to you go for G6. I also think sooner or later, LG will provide update to Android P, too
well, considering Mi A2 didnt have headphone jack, the camera is worse than G6, have less features, have Android One (wich personaly i didnt like, is boring) i think if you find G6 at same price or less, then you should go for G6 without thinkin...G6 at 200 is a damn of a deal. specialy with SD821, QHD display, great cameras, manual camera etc etc...i dont need to say anymore, i own it and is amazing you will like it better than Mi A2 for sure, i already play with A2 and is really a boring and the screen to body ratio is bigger in G6, A2 have too much bezels.
Worse Camera? One has to wonder what criteria one is using...
The Mi A2 is getting fantastic reviews for it's advances in camera ability. It has pixel binning and a wide aperture on *both* rear lenses, which make for more light getting through to the sensor, which makes for better pictures in low light. It has portrait mode on both the rear and front cameras, but it's main feature is ability in low light.
I have a G6, like it. But have a Mi A2 arriving soon. The G6, unless you get one of the few versions that are unlockable, will not get updates in a timely manner or fairly soon, never.
The A2 on the other hand is just released, 2 yrs of promised OS updates, and 3 yrs of security updates (my G6 is on May security - the August security is already available for the A2).
The A2 is project treble enabled and unlockable (no questions asked, no code needed). And while some find Android One "boring", others of us find it fantastic; I'm a minimalist, I want to get the most out of the hardware as possible; that means running as little bloatware as I can.
Don't get me wrong, I like the G6. And will decide after some time which one I sell. But the Mi A2 is being hailed as a great phone for the price range.
Much depends on what your needs are of course. I prefer the aluminum unibody phones, with the 2.5D glass, they are more 'rounded' and easier to hold. And cameras with good low light are a very big plus... Where are most of the pics you take with your phone? Indoors with friends, maybe at night, that type of a thing. I don't walk around during daylight looking to take pictures with my phone, for that I have a sony mirroless camera with a lot of interchangeable lenses.
The G6 is a higher tier phone. Much smaller yet with bigger screen, better display, better camera, faster, always on display. And if we are talking about the dual sim version, then there's also the quad DAC, for someone who wants to listen to music from a mobile device in the best possible quality.
Mi A1 is a great phone, I like it, but I don't think that it's a match for the G6. I like the Android One thing, but it was made with cost being one of the first priorities, G6 wasn't that much.
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The G6 is a higher tier phone. Much smaller yet with bigger screen, better display, better camera, faster, always on display. And if we are talking about the dual sim version, then there's also the quad DAC, for someone who wants to listen to music from a mobile device in the best possible quality.
Mi A1 is a great phone, I like it, but I don't think that it's a match for the G6. I like the Android One thing, but it was made with cost being one of the first priorities, G6 wasn't that much.
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we are talking about Mi A2 here, not A1.
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we are talking about Mi A2 here, not A1.
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My mistake, but things are even worse for the A2. Much bigger, no card slot, no FM radio (for someone who needs it),
A2 is the phone to get if the only priority is the pure Android and the updates.
Melissakis said:
My mistake, but things are even worse for the A2. Much bigger, no card slot, no FM radio (for someone who needs it),
A2 is the phone to get if the only priority is the pure Android and the updates.
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and the very good in low light cameras.
and the 2.5D glass
and the aluminum unibody rounded edges
and the unlockable bootloader
and project treble enabled
$200 is a bargain for the LG.
Go for it, although you have to be aware that you are buying a model that is almost a year and a half old and therefore towards the end of support by LG
This doesn't take away from the enjoyment that you get from the phone, but you have to adjust your expectations.
As you can see from these forums there are many people "kvetching" (whining) about the delay or lack of updates.
For most people this isn't important but you have to decide for yourself.
jshames said:
$200 is a bargain for the LG.
Go for it, although you have to be aware that you are buying a model that is almost a year and a half old and therefore towards the end of support by LG
This doesn't take away from the enjoyment that you get from the phone, but you have to adjust your expectations.
As you can see from these forums there are many people "kvetching" (whining) about the delay or lack of updates.
For most people this isn't important but you have to decide for yourself.
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Sure, this doesnt mean if the support ends for G6 the phone will be trash, it doesnt mean that...i dont why people bother so much for updates since you always waste time searching for it and then dont enjoy the true value of the phone, simple because you are obcessed with updates...
For the price you pay for G6 is a true value phone, you know what a high end looks like, even tho is from last year but high end will be high end forever because of the looks of it, and a midrange with stock will always be mid range with stock android.
And...i know for almost sure, G6 will have Android Pie next year, of course A2 will have it sooner or already have it (IDK) but for G6 is a must welcome update, SD821 with Pie will last at least for more one year or so, like you can go out with your phone until ends of 2019 or more.
Thats what im gonna to do with my G6, wait for Pie and use it for more 1 or 2 years...as for Mi A2 from today until 2 years will keep receiving updates but i dont see your Mi A2 last more than 2 years, Xiaomi always make new models and maybe Mi A2 will be out of updates sooner than people will expect.
I am not convincing anyone to buy this or that phone, they have the pros and cons like every phone, but the weight here is more to the G6 than to Mi A2.
G6 Pros vs Mi A2:
- Better camera
- Wide Angle camera
- Better video camera
- Headphone jack
- Look like a flagship
- Better screen to body ratio
- Better outdoor visibility
- Better SoC
- A little more battery
- IP68 Water and Dust resistant
Mi A2 Pros vs G6:
- IR Blaster
- Stock Android
- Thinner than G6
- Better loudspeaker quality
... i have G6, but i already put my hands on A2, bezels is too much and the top bezel makes the phone ugly, too light weight like you holding a paper not a phone, screen is nothing special, stock android (at least for me) didnt have taste, is like a salted water biccuit. But people chose what they gonna want, i only give my feedback upon my experience in both.
I too am very happy with my G6.
The only open question at this point is reliability, given the bootloop problem that many LG manufactured phones have had.
Both my sons had Nexus 5x's and both died from bootloops within 2 years.
Hopefully the G6 won't suffer the same fate.
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I too am very happy with my G6.
The only open question at this point is reliability, given the bootloop problem that many LG manufactured phones have had.
Both my sons had Nexus 5x's and both died from bootloops within 2 years.
Hopefully the G6 won't suffer the same fate.
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LG after beign sued because bootloops i think they already fix it since G5/V20 all phones since those is no more bootloop aware and if they do is people fault of flashing wrong things and do what they dont know what they doing, and even that way the bootloop by accident is easy fixed with Uppercut or LG UP.
LG fame of bootloops keep going i know but LG phones dont bootloop anymore i can guarantee you.
Yes, that's what I read too, but it had definitely hurt LG's reputation and their competition with Samsung (even with the exploding Galaxy s7 LOL)
Hopefully I will retire it when the Lg G7 becomes a bargain!
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LG after beign sued because bootloops i think they already fix it since G5/V20 all phones since those is no more bootloop aware and if they do is people fault of flashing wrong things and do what they dont know what they doing, and even that way the bootloop by accident is easy fixed with Uppercut or LG UP.
LG fame of bootloops keep going i know but LG phones dont bootloop anymore i can guarantee you.
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I just bought A2 and sold the G6 after 1,5 year. If you are not a fashion phone user choose the A2 and be advanced user
I've had both phones, both are good, but you have to ask; What's most important for you? I like the G6 better because of the size. Ideally I'd have a Pixel 3, but not until the price comes down for me. I like the wide angle lens' on the G6 also. There are so many factors re phones, unlockable, roms, development, updates, etc etc.
what matters to you? that's the tough question.
likhon02 said:
Hello I am planning to get a phone today around 200$ both mi a2 and lg G6 is under 200$ in my country.. which one should I get ?? I will use it mostly to watch YouTube, browsing and some lite GPS usage ..
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I also have both phones and prefer the A2
The LG does have great cameras but the A2 is not far behind. The A2 has very good cameras. Especially the front facing camera which is much better then the G6.
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I also have both phones and prefer the A2
The LG does have great cameras but the A2 is not far behind. The A2 has very good cameras. Especially the front facing camera which is much better then the G6.
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
Why not.
If i would be buying, i would check if any recognised ROM developer getting that phone. If there isn't a good developer base in XDA, you have to entirely rely on Xiaomi; for updates, for ****ty camera updates etc.
Mi A3 is available, good specs for around 200 bugs
I was waiting for A3, but that subpar display is a big show stopper for me (HD + pentile matrix [emoji2961]). I will wait a bit and if there are no news about proper Android One successor (A3 "pro"), I am going to risk MIUI on 9T. Maybe I'll get used to it with root and some modifications..who knows [emoji846]
Has everyone forgot about treble support by default on newer devices?
Devs will be trying to make GSIs, which will result in much better ROM availablity. And newer kernel isn't a big deal like it was few years back.
So go buy any phone you want.
Hriddhi said:
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
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I just purchased my Mi 9T 2 days ago. The difference between Stock and MIUI is night and day. I miss being able to pull down the notification shade using the fingerprint scanner.
And although the navigation buttons on A1 take up screen real estate, the gesture navigation on the 9T just feels clunky. I hate the swipe left/right on screen to go back.
It was also a headache to remove the bloat apps, as I use mostly Google apps. And I haven't had any experience of Xiaomi Ads, but removing those were the first thing that I did.
In all fairness tho, for the price, it was worth the upgrade because of the camera, Snapdragon 730 and the gorgeous Amoled Screen. I'll probably swap MIUI w/ Lineage OS soon.
I'm considering upgrading to this phone from the OnePlus 5T since it checks off all my boxes. Only thing I'm worried about is the actual performance of the chip. I don't do much with the phone and the most intense thing I do is probably play Real Racing 3. Will this be an issue?
While on this topic, is it actually an upgrade from my 5T? The camera performance is surely better but thanks to the Google Camera, photos are pretty good with the 5T too.
Actually, the Snapdragon 730 performs better in benchmarks than the 835. So it should be at least equal there.
But this phone is heavy compared to 5T, with case it gets bulkier. Gaming performance is good, camera is bad. If you're coming from oneplus series, better buy oneplus again IMO. They are compact devices with better OS and cameras.
Camera is bad... or maybe the guy behind the camera xD It's one of the best in the phone market but yes it's bad compare to a Canon SLR camera !
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But this phone is heavy compared to 5T, with case it gets bulkier. Gaming performance is good, camera is bad. If you're coming from oneplus series, better buy oneplus again IMO. They are compact devices with better OS and cameras.
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i +1 to this, the camera is terrible and you better go with a newer oneplus.
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Camera is bad... or maybe the guy behind the camera xD It's one of the best in the phone market but yes it's bad compare to a Canon SLR camera !
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no, for a normal phone camera is terrible, for now even gcam can`t save it. you dont need to compare to a SLR to see the bad quality.
and its one of the best MID RANGER phone, not even close to any of the best phones, chill
Geiger's said:
i +1 to this, the camera is terrible and you better go with a newer oneplus.
no, for a normal phone camera is terrible, for now even gcam can`t save it. you dont need to compare to a SLR to see the bad quality.
and its one of the best MID RANGER phone, not even close to any of the best phones, chill
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You seem to have very high standards when it comes to the camera. Imho the phone takes great pictures in good lighting conditions. For low light gcam is the way to go. Yes, it's not as good as the flagships out there but we are talking budget here.
The 9T is an upgrade from the OnePlus 7 - I just came from the 7 to the 9T.
OK, so the 9T isn't quite as fast, but there's barely anything in it - I don't game, but all other apps launch and run great on the 730. The screen is better on the 9T, the cameras are pretty much the same, battery is better. Loss of stereo speakers isn't a massive problem for me as the 9T's speaker is good, and I still use a wired headphone so no dongle is a bonus.
You won't regret buying compared to the 1+5T.
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You seem to have very high standards when it comes to the camera. Imho the phone takes great pictures in good lighting conditions. For low light gcam is the way to go. Yes, it's not as good as the flagships out there but we are talking budget here.
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Wait what if they have blurry camera effect like MKBHD's unit lol
i've changed from oneplus 6 to mi9t, i had an amazon warranty refund for oneplus 6, so best of all is that i spent 350€ for 128gb mi9t and amazon refunded 540€ for oneplus 6.
phone itself was mostly an update even if had not spent less than refund, i haven't tried it for long time so something could be untested (like recording audio)
screen: mi 9t>op6
camera: little better for op6 in low light and 4k 60fps videos (but didn't use the, so much, too much space) mostly they seem to be on par (i have to test much more)
battery: mi 9t>op6
fingerprint: mi 9t mostly better, you don't have to "take" the phone or digit pin if it's on a table, just a little slower, but difference is less than half a second
speaker: seems quite louder, quality seems very similar
phone: i expected the thin speaker to be much more position-dependant, but i don't notice so much difference.
performance: i can't notice any difference, and i'm quite sure people with mi 9t pro won't ever notice any difference, cause 730 is already overpowered for screen resolution
honestly i won't listen those talking about the camera, you can't compare it to huawei high ends or samsung, but against op6 camera it's almost even.