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Hi All,
I've bought both the Xiaomi Mi5s (miui 8 global) and the OnePlus 3T (oxygen OS 4.03 Android 7) and am trialling both for a few before I send the loser (if you could possibly call one of these great phones a loser) back. I'm finding it very difficult to chose.
Either phone is a huge upgrade from my previous and very safe and stable iPhone 5s. I hope you can help me resolve my conundrum.
My thoughts so far on the comparison:
Software and interfaces:
Both phones have great software but for me the xiaomi swings it on being more customisable in terms of the interface, being able to easily change themes. As nice as changing themes is however, a lot of the themes are like those Kodi skins with weird phrases like "seize the moment" plastered on the home screen. It is a nice to have though and some of them have added some clever navigation features for app sidetray access.
It has a couple of other features that are nice to haves like 'force touch' and recording calls as a standard option but both of these features I would rarely use and can live without. Miuis second space feature is a bit surplus to requirements considering fingerprint locking is all you need for security I'm not sure why I'd need to hide apps etc on another part of the phone, I also found it a bit slow to switch spaces.
Hardware:
Here the OnePlus wins, more ram more speed, not that noticeable in day to day operations but the fingerprint sensor on the Xiaomi has been disappointing, even after rescanning my thumb a couple of times it still either fails to unlock or takes a long time to unlock. The OnePlus 3T is super quick on the fingerprint unlock like the speed of light and very reliable for me. Screen sizes on both are nice, I prefer the larger OnePlus though. I would also say the microphone sensitivity on the OnePlus 3T is better in picking up the "OK google" commands. Both seem to be quite quiet on phone calls with the earphones plugged in, if you make regular conference calls this is quite annoying and there are lots of complaints on the xiaomi forums regarding this for the global rom.
Camera:
This is where the big let down is on the 3T and probably the reason I am still hanging on to the xiaomi . Despite impressive specs on paper I've found shots low in detail compared to the Xiaomi and poor when shooting moving objects. Low light performance is not great on both but overall I feel the Xiaomi Mi5s is the better camera. Video recording I can't comment, both seem to very similar. I'm not a huge photographer and don't post lots of pictures to social media so maybe I can live without it. I'm hoping something can be done with the OP3T camera to resolve some of the above issues.
Athetics and buttons etc:
I like the feel of the OP3T better but the Xiaomi is easier to hold on accounts of is size.
Anyway I hope you can help me with some thoughts here, would love to keep both but I ain't that rich, ideally I'd merge the two but it just can't happen.
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
felixjet said:
No offense but starting your review (and the software aspect) talking about themes is ..... meh.
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OK so maybe you could suggest what's more important for you personally? Am I too hung up on the themes aspect?
Xiaomi Mi5s has a rear camera sensor with 1.55 um pixels (IMX 378 - As in the G Pixel), yet low light performance is not great? How come?
"Despite impressive camera specs on paper for 3T" - The Mi5S has more impressive specs on paper.
Because sensor is not everything my friend
i have oneplus 3t and the camera is amazing but i want to upgrade so what you recommend me to go with ?
All have their strengths.... The OnePlus 3 as well.
Try not to get dazzled by specs and marketing hype... Think of it more of as there some area they you would like to improve over the op3 camera
Samsung camera may be better if you want to just point and shoot in full auto all the time.
Most of us won't be utilizing our phone cameras to it's full potential all the time.
I moved from a OP3 to a Mate 9 (after deciding to pass on the S7) and I'm very happy with my choice
You should have a look at the pocketnow "real camera reviews" on YouTube if you're not aware of them already
For the OP3
https://youtu.be/bQFy7qzkNro
Check the P10 and mate 9 there as well
I don't think any reviewers have gotten around to doing in depth reviews for the s8 as of yet
so you recomende transfed to mate ? from op3t bacause u use it and know if there defrence
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Honor V10's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
20MP+16MP dual camera and IR blaster?
It seems this new Honor V10 is equiped with 20MP + 16 MP dual camera, and it has IR blaster? Really interested in it.
At the Honor 9 lite launch event at New Delhi, India, the Honor India team confirmed that the EIS feature is in works for 1080p & 4k videos and would be provided through a OTA. That would help in the low light video capture.
for the Honor 9 lite (as you mentioning) or the Honor 10 view ?
The view 10 will get the EIS feature. I just confirmed this when I went to the Honor 9 lite launch.
Night shots are great in this phone. The best phone I have used so far
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Wow . Despite no OIS, the low light shots are really good!
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EIS update?
iamsabresh said:
At the Honor 9 lite launch event at New Delhi, India, the Honor India team confirmed that the EIS feature is in works for 1080p & 4k videos and would be provided through a OTA. That would help in the low light video capture.
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are you serious about this? And are you sure the Honor team referring the EIS update for Honor View10 or for the Honor 9 Lite? .. as it is the launching event of Honor 9 lite. Cuz this could be the game-changer for this awesome beast phone. I really want to buy this phone as it costs much lower than the other smartphone in its budget segment but the un-availability of EIS really put me off from the decision ( to buy whether this phone or Oneplus 5T ).
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are you serious about this? And are you sure the Honor team referring the EIS update for Honor View10 or for the Honor 9 Lite? .. as it is the launching event of Honor 9 lite. Cuz this could be the game-changer for this awesome beast phone. I really want to buy this phone as it costs much lower than the other smartphone in its budget segment but the un-availability of EIS really put me off from the decision ( to buy whether this phone or Oneplus 5T ).
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The Honor team recognized lack of EIS as a negative for the view 10 and said that they're working on an EIS feature for at least 1080p video.
iamsabresh said:
The view 10 will get the EIS feature. I just confirmed this when I went to the Honor 9 lite launch.
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Can i get youtube video link of that event with time-stamp (when they says honor v10 will get eis feature)
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I personally asked the Honor India team after the launch event of the Honor 9 lite.
iamsabresh said:
I personally asked the Honor India team after the launch event of the Honor 9 lite.
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Then why they are officially not confirming ? I contact them they thay said there is no official info like this
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It is not officially disclosed as of now. The people at Honor know that EIS is a big deal when you put the phone next to the OnePlus 5T and they have acknowledged the lack there of. They're working on many things at the moment (more scene recognition options in the camera, more AI features, etc) that they cannot provide ETA for EIS, which people start along once a company promises them some feature. It is in works along with other features and I hope they pull it off.
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It is not officially disclosed as of now. The people at Honor know that EIS is a big deal when you put the phone next to the OnePlus 5T and they have acknowledged the lack there of. They're working on many things at the moment (more scene recognition options in the camera, more AI features, etc) that they cannot provide ETA for EIS, which people start along once a company promises them some feature. It is in works along with other features and I hope they pull it off.
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They cannot provide ETA for EIS
What you mean? Will we get eis feature or not? If yes thn you sure bro? [emoji817]% confermed?
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Here's some video that I made during night driving a few days ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfJcTfUlYDR/
Also, in the attachment is a picture made with HDR enabled.
I'm pretty pleased with both picture and video quality. ??
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This is really good stuff! I'm waiting for mine :laugh:
Excellent image capturing and procduce nice details. No complaint. Haven't tested video in daylight much and used indoors only
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The Honor team recognized lack of EIS as a negative for the view 10 and said that they're working on an EIS feature for at least 1080p video.
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EIS feature is a must
Low light shots are very impressive from the Honor View 10.
Honor introduced a new budget competitor in the Indian smartphone market with the recent launch of the Honor 7X. Unveiled at an event in London in December, the Honor 7X carries everything that makes it stand apart from the rest of the budget line-up prevalent in the Indian market. A bezel-less display, dual camera setup and Honor’s own processor coupled with its own user interface comes as quite a bold offering by the Chinese smartphone manufacturer at its price point of Rs 12,999.
Speaking of Chinese OEMs, another player in the market has been dominating the budget segment for quite a while now. While Xiaomi started out with its Redmi Note series, with the Redmi Note 4 being the most sold smartphone in the country this year, the company also experimented with its line-up by launching an Android One smartphone in 2017. Xiaomi Mi A1, another budget offering by Xiaomi, came as a refreshing change from its existing line-up which mostly ran on Xiaomi’s own MIUI. The Mi A1 boasts of a pure Android experience, along with a dual camera setup for the photography enthusiasts. Having the same price tag at Rs 12,999, a clash with the new Honor 7X is inevitable for the Mi A1. Hence, here is a comparison between the two smartphones revealing where they come out on top and where they lack.
Also read: Honor 7X vs Redmi Note 4 vs Lenovo K8 Note [Specs]: Is There a New Budget King in Town?
Design
Honor 7X has an unarguably premium feel to it with the metal casing and rounded edges. The front dons an 18:9 display with minimum bezels and looks neat. The upper bezel simply sports the in-call speaker and the selfie camera, while the bottom bezel elegantly displays the ‘Honor’ sign. The smartphone comes in an aluminium chassis and sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Xiaomi Mi A1, on the other hand, looks just like any other Android smartphone. It carries a minimalistic design with prominent bezels on both the top and the bottom. The Mi A1 comes in a full metal design and also sports a fingerprint sensor at the back.
Display
The Honor 7X sports a 5.93-inch near bezel-less, Full HD+ display with a 2160 x 1080 pixel resolution and a Corning Gorilla Glass protection on top. The near bezel-less display comes with an 18:9 aspect ratio display. During our use, we found the display of the Honor 7X to be an absolute treat at its price point, with ample colours, optimum brightness and a crisp viewing experience.
In comparison, the Xiaomi Mi A1 carries a 5.5-inch display with a 1920 x 1080 pixel resolution and is protected by a Corning Gorilla Glass 3. The Mi A1 display comes with a 16:9 aspect ratio, like the one on most of the budget smartphones in the market. We found the display to be decent in our use, with the ability to cater to users looking for a regular budget smartphone experience.
Also read: Honor 7X First Impressions Review: Honor Has an Ace up Its Sleeve
Watch: Honor 7X Review | The Upgrade to Your Honor 6X
Firepower
Just like any other Honor smartphone, Honor 7X is powered by the company’s own HiSilicon Kirin processor. The one backing the 7X is an octa-core Kirin 659 SoC, which is further coupled with a 4GB RAM and a 32GB internal storage, which can be further expanded up to 256GB using an external microSD. The smartphone runs Honor’s in-house EMUI 5.1 on top of Android 7.1.1 Nougat. Currently, there is no confirmation on the Android Oreo update for the Honor 7X.
Xiaomi’s Mi A1 is powered by Qualcomm’s tried and tested Snapdragon 625 SoC with eight cores. In addition to this, the smartphone carries a 4GB RAM and a 64GB internal storage, further expandable up to 128GB using an external microSD. As a change from Xiaomi’s regular smartphone line-up, the Mi A1 skips the MIUI interface and instead runs Android 7.1 Nougat, being Xiaomi’s first Android One device in collaboration with Google. Xiaomi is currently looking for Beta testers for the Android Oreo update for this smartphone. There is no official confirmation for the release of the update as of now.
Camera
Honor has been known for the camera capabilities of its smartphones, ranging from the Honor 8 Pro, right down to the Honor 6X, which set the trend for affordable dual camera smartphones. Honor 7X now builds on that reputation and carries a dual camera setup with a 16-megapixel primary lens along with a 2-megapixel secondary lens for adding depth effect to the images. Overall, the camera is able to deliver very good picture quality. At the front, the Honor 7X houses an 8-megapixel selfie shooter, able to work at 1080p resolution and also deliver Bokeh effect to the selfies.
Xiaomi Mi A1 also sports a dual camera setup, with a 12-megapixel primary and a 12-megapixel secondary lens which together offer depth effect in the images and boast of a 2x optical zoom. At the front, the Mi A1 sports a 5-megapixel selfie camera with similar 1080p resolution capability.
Battery
Honor 7X is backed by a 3340 mAh battery, edging just over the 3080 mAh battery sported by the Xiaomi Mi A1. As the figures indicate, the Honor smartphone is able to last for a couple of hours more than the Mi A1 in practical use as well, despite the Honor 7X display consuming more battery for its daily run.
Verdict
There is no doubt that both the smartphones offer ample features at a budget price of Rs 12,999. While Xiaomi Mi A1 offers pure Android experience to its users, the Honor 7X delivers Honor’s own added features through the interactive EMUI. The cameras and the performance backup of both the smartphones are more or less similar, with their own minuscule pros and cons over each other. The Honor 7X, however, rises on top in terms of the display quality and the battery backup that the smartphone offers. Finally, the Honor device takes it away when it comes to the overall visual appeal of the smartphone, thanks to its near bezel-less display.
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I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. Never faced any lags or stutter in 7x. EMUI is well optimized OS.. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
Terrible charging time. 3 hours for full charge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
Some games really sucks....
Headphones output is average.
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1. Also the battery backup is fantastic in 7x.
Rajeev said:
I am an old 7x user. Sold it and bought A1. 7x is good. Good design and good battery backup. A lagfree OS. No doubt in that...
My reasons for selling 7x is
terrible charging time. 3 hours for full chatge
Poor Potrait camera
Normal Rear camera
Developments
Stretched videos in YouTube
7x can't stand in front of A1 with charging+ camera+ development..
7x selfie camera is superb. Better than A1
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This is how posts should be instead of rooting in fanboyism..
TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.
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TBH I would've waited and bought the Honor 7x, but the 64 GB version is costlier. I want both of my SIMs AND my 30GB music
Ended up buying Mi A1. The phone is decent mid-ranger, but -
> Camera sucks in low light.
> Headphone hissing still not fixed.
> Fastcharging should've been included.
> Though build quality is premium, I wished it didn't have the camera bump. I'd have preferred it to be a bit thicker which a slightly bigger battery.
> Light sensor is janky AF. Auto brightness is thrash.
But good things... well you hear it all the time. Enough performance, fast FP reader, good display (though not crisp enough). Funnyly, I've never gotten 5+ hours SoT, while other people claim to get around 6-8 hrs SoT.
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1. Yeap. Camera sucks in low light...The only fix is Google Camera HDR+. But unfortunately u need root. Good thing is now u can take Potrait shot with flashlight using Google Camera HDR+
2. Honestly i don't have that issue. Running Oreo and using Sony MDR in ear phone. Never experienced that hissing issue.
3. Yeap. Fast charge is good if they included but its charging really fast. For me its took 1 hour 44 minutes to charge with Samsung adaptive fast charger.. Even my old S7 Edge ( sold due to family issues) took almost 1 hour 33 minutes to charges from 1 to 100 ...
4. Auto brightness is slightly improved in Oreo IMO
5. Me always getting around 5 to 5.30... Never touched around 6. But thats pretty decent for my usage......
I have to admit the rear camera is very good on my A1 but I am not much of a camera guy and want a phone to be extremely snappy with a big display, My problem with the mi A1 was that while using the device you can feel there is something lacking in the software even after 3 update cycles and that really bugged me and with the 7x I get a gigantic display, excellent
Since all Honor phones are getting Project Treble with their Oreo update, the Honor 7X might also get that. That would put it ahead of Mi A1 Stock android as it would get updates just as fast and maybe even beyond Android P, while the Mi A1 only will update till P.
Finally, Dxomark have a full review about us K30 Pro /Zoom. Yes, Zoom is not exactly the same as K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro, but almost the same (changing telephoto with macro and OIS)
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro-zoom-edition-camera-review/
No bad after all.
I agree that the ultra angle is the weakest point and that in night mode it could be squeezed a little more. Even so, it is surprising that if it were valued only in a still image, it could possibly be in the top 5.
I think that there is still room to earn the odd extra point with future updates, there are defects that are solvable by software, such as smoothing and loss of texture on some occasions, or even slightly improve the automatic parameters for the ultra-wide angle
In the video section the F2 Pro should lose some point due to the lack of OIS, but in its favor it must be said that EIS does an exceptional job
What do you think?
Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
Aremeyr said:
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Ofc it matters who is behind cam but my opinion is that software is most important in cameras. Google is good for that. You can put what camera sensors you want and what photographer to use it but if software is ****, results are ****. And nowadays its very often that normal users are testing the software but i must say that if you clean lens and its sunny day, and you take photo with poco f2 pro, you get very sharp results. but let see what gcam brings in future..
EDIT: stock cam i mean, please take shots and compare it. Gcam is not better? zoom and look details..
Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
Gcam on K30 Ultra?
ok, so K30 Pro Zoom scored high, has OIS, and has the 865 which means it should be able to use Gcam if I can source the Zoom version of the phone? But the K30 Ultra has Mediatek 1000, which means no Gcam right?
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Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
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IMHO, it seems that stock camera is a bit bluffed by the darker zones of the centre, while the Gcam seems more indifferent to that zones.
This can happen also on SLR cams.
Urnyx is now making a crowd funding to get a poco F2 and improve his Gcam.
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
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OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
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I love Nightshots, and i have a huge gallery with only night/Sky shots. I assure you that it has nothing to envy to the "premium" range terminals. In fact, for me, in night photography (on this device) there is only one small problem, and that is that the glass that protects the lenses is very prone to causing flares when you have a couple of bright light sources and you place one of them in the center. Luckily it can be easily avoided the most time.
As a note, the vast majority of my night photos are handheld, using only the tripod with 2+ seg exposures, generally if I want to take astronomical, or more artistic photos in quiet environments
This doesn't mean much. The camera optimization is different amongst the Mi series, the Redmi series and the Poco series. It seems like the Redmi team did a good job on optimizing the camera on the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, unlike the Poco team on the Poco F2 Pro.