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I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
Sounds like you may have had a string of bad luck with the devices. Remember stuff like that gets shipped in bulk so it may have been just an issue with the one shipment to that Best Buy.
I haven't had any issues with build quality on mine. Was worried about the plastic backing but it doesn't dent in like the aluminum on my iPad so it's actually a plus (and it makes the thing lighter). I won't disagree with the Honeycomb needing polish however. For the most part it works fine but there is a significant lack of tablet optimized apps out there and the input lag in the stock browser is annoying at best.
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I just got frustrated man. when you are dropping that much cash on a tab it should be flawless. ya know
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
Yeah man, I understand. I'd be pretty pissed to if I had to return my brand new shiny three times. But it's what all early adopters have to put up with; higher prices, untested technology, new waters and the like. It's what makes it fun,
This would be more shoddy QA than shoddy build quality wouldn't it? I actually quite like the build quality on the thing but could see getting pissed off if I had dust under the screen.
My experience that some people who are hyper-sensitive to "flaws" in devices are those that were truly unsure about their purchase in the first place. When they experience buyer's remorse, they suddenly find "flaws" in the device rather than admit that they made a poor purchasing decision. This bad behavior is unfortunately reinforced by the return policies of the retailers that charge restocking fees except in case of defects.
I'm not saying this is the case with OP. Just an observation.
jvanbrecht said:
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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totally OT: $80k for a C63??? how cheap are those cars in the states?? for a normal configuration we have to pay at least about $95k (~67k €).
The 2011 C63 AMG starts at < $60k in the US (though realistically, $70k is the cheapest you'll find it). I'm not sure what the differences are vs the euro models.
rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Berner said:
I'm not saying this is the case with OP. Just an observation.
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My experience has been that some people who try to insinuate that any issues someone may have with a product are actually problems with the person rather than the device, are actually just trying to defend their own purchases.
I'm not saying this is the case with you. Just an observation.
hebbe said:
totally OT: $80k for a C63??? how cheap are those cars in the states?? for a normal configuration we have to pay at least about $95k (~67k €).
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They are definitely cheaper in the US then in most other places (even DE.. which is odd since they are made there...)
Base model runs around 60k, once you start adding options.. it goes up fast, I have everything but the Performance Package, and the number I through out is the avg for a model configured as mine, I did not pay that much (who ever pays MSRP anyways), as I picked mine up used (Certified Pre Owned model from MB).
You want horrible.. check out the C63 in Australia.. they run almost $200k AU. Half of that is I believe a luxury tax penalty....
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Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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Come on now - the GTab and C63 have a lot of stuff in common - especially their use of copious amounts of cheap plastic. At least for the Tab, it's only $500
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Come on now - the GTab and C63 have a lot of stuff in common - especially their use of copious amounts of cheap plastic. At least for the Tab, it's only $500
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Yeah.. and it rattles alot.. drives me nuts.. granted that may have something to do with the monster V8 they shoehorned into the little C class.. but still, at the price point, they should have used better materials. At least in EU, and most of the rest of the world, you can get the option of leather dash/console/etc which replaces much of the plastic.. but that is not available on the C class for US AMG models, it is on the E and up classes though.
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Yeah.. and it rattles alot.. drives me nuts.. granted that may have something to do with the monster V8 they shoehorned into the little C class.. but still, at the price point, they should have used better materials. At least in EU, and most of the rest of the world, you can get the option of leather dash/console/etc which replaces much of the plastic.. but that is not available on the C class for US AMG models, it is on the E and up classes though.
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The rattles are caused by a combination of low-profile tires, punishing suspension, and clips that hold dashboard components in place instead of screws. Also, the torsional rigidity of the C isn't as stiff as the E so when you go up driveways and the chassis flexes, that eventually takes its toll on tight tolerance components. Sometimes covering them with leather helps; sometimes not.
The greater concern to me is why MB didn't include an LSD with that car as standard equipment. It's part of the P30 package or a $2,000 standalone option, which to me makes next to no sense. All that power needs a way to get it reliably to the pavement!
rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Sounds like you had really bad luck. Did you exchange them from the same place? It might be the batch the store received was the problem, either tampered in production or in transportation. Overall, people seem to be happy with the build, including myself, so it seems you're case was exceptional, and you may give it another try at a different store or vendor.
Nexus Tab/Ice Cream are at best Q4, which can be 4-6 months away, and I wouldn't be surprised if they only came out next year. Honeycomb will definately improve before then, especially in a few weeks we should have custom ROMs too.
Dead pixels AND dust under the screen! I agree 100% with the OP. If you really got three in a row with screen defects that is not acceptable. You can ignore virtually any nick, ding or scratch on the body of a tablet, but it's really hard to ignore screen defects. Especially central ones. In many respects a tablet IS the screen. It's what you interact with all day long.
I'm not that surprised. Samsung sometimes has quality control issues. I ended up returning three Samsung projection TV's in a row once. One of them actually had a picture that was physically tilted so that one side was higher than the other - can't quite understand how that got past quality control. And then there is the recent GPS disaster with the Galaxy S phones - I had one of those and finally ended up getting rid of it because It was impossible to navigate with it.
Samsung is a strange company. They produce cutting edge products that have lots of rough edges. But when you finally get one of Samsung's devices that works correctly, they are sometimes really good. When I finally got a working TV from Samsung, after my fourth try, it lasted forever - superb picture and no problems. Love my Tab 7. And even the Galaxy S was a great phone, as long as you didn't have to get anywhere on time.
I'm surprised that Best Buy didn't give you a hard time with the dead pixels. Every once in a while you get a smart-assed salesman who likes to quote a dead pixel rule: "we can only exchange it if there are 5 or more dead pixels. Just because there's a big black one dead center in the middle of your screen isn't sufficient cause for an exchange!") Had circuit city try this with me on an LCD TV. Course stuff like that is probably the reason they went bankrupt.
This is one reason I prefer buying from brick and mortar stores with items like this. If Best Buy gave you no trouble with 3 returns, thats really commendable on their part. They would get my repeat business just for that.
jvanbrecht said:
Flawless is debatable... there is no such thing.. my $80k car (AMG C63 if anyone cares) is far from flawless, my house.. far from flawless. I have purchased $100+ software/hardware packages (Arcsight.. ridiculously expensive), far from flawless....
If you had asked me 10 or 20 years ago, then I would have agreed, but these days, everything is released with flaws and bugs, it is just how it is these days, and you will have to accept it, or you will never buy anything again..
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??? You have got to be kidding, right ? You may have low expectation and willing to take flaws, but not me, not now, not ever. Doing so just tells the manufactur we will accept the flaws and be done with it. Goodness, accept it ? No way
rmmorse81 said:
As the title says:
I was so utterly disappointed with the 10.1
The first one I got Friday Morning had dead pixels on the black status bar at the bottom of the screen. I returned it a couple hours later to Best Buy.
The second one has dust under the middle of the screen. You could see black spots while surfing the web.
Finally, the third one had 8 pieces of dust under the right side of the screen.
I decided to return it and wait for a rumored Nexus Tab or Ice Cream.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE Android. I have the Nexus S 4g, and I have always had android phones. I had the Xoom, but it was too heavy and large. I really had high hopes for the Galaxy Tab. Yet, its sad that the build quality is lacking..
And... lets be honest, Honeycomb needs a LOT of polishing. Its laggy, and has none of the media consumption apps people crave(i.e. netflix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.)
If you like the Tab do yourself a favor and try not to look at the screen too close.. I fear that there are imperfections on most of them... which is inexcusable
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Did you clean your glasses before you inspected the tablet?
(J/k I returned one due to back light bleeding)
OP, if you got all of those from the same place, I suggest giving it one more shot and buying it somewhere else.
I have had this HTC One M8 for five months now, and it still impresses me I have owned 13 different Android flagship phones the past five years, and I would put this One M8 at the top, especially if running the 'GPE' version. Great design, amazing build quality, awesome sounding stereo speakers that are loud and clear, it's warp speed fast, gorgeous screen, and the battery life, wow.
I just installed a fresh 'GPE' ROM on Monday, and look at these battery life results, this compares to my old Galaxy Note 2, which was a beast on battery.
I unplugged my phone yesterday off the charger at 6:00am, and didn't charge again until bedtime at 11:00pm. I got 6h On Screen time, and total usage of 17 hours. And it was a workday, so major use nonstop for work, two hours of phone calls, hundred texts, GPS Navigation, plenty of web use looking up Vendor sites, etc... And most of this was on the 4G LTE network, only a couple hours of this on WiFi. I was hammering on this phone all day and night, HEAVY use.
I'm known as "that guy who changes phones every 6 months", but I gotta say, I'm hanging on to this M8 for the foreseeable future. I've had mine since about 2 weeks after launch, and my only complaint with my device is not being able to get the dust/whatever it is out of my speaker grills no matter what I try. Other than that 10/10.
Looks really great i'm not even able to get that on sense and even wasn't able to get it on GPE...but i think because the phone is for more then 10 hours on mobile data and i just have 2-3 bars because of LTE not in a town it Drains much more Juice will try soon again the GPE Rom or at first the Dev Edition RUU
glad to hear your synopsis on the phone... though i am late to the party, (since i have just ordered it today) im sure that i will hang onto the device atleast for a couple of years. heard alot of good reviews about this beast and i have no regrets of chosing this over the xperia z2 or z3
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I'm known as "that guy who changes phones every 6 months", but I gotta say, I'm hanging on to this M8 for the foreseeable future. I've had mine since about 2 weeks after launch, and my only complaint with my device is not being able to get the dust/whatever it is out of my speaker grills no matter what I try. Other than that 10/10.
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Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.
boe323 said:
Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.
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Yes but then you blow it into the phone. I rather have it out of the phone
What i do from time to time (and did with all my phones) is to rub really good sticky tape over the grills and then pull it off including as much dirt as it can get.
One of the main reasons for NOT blowing air with force in to a phone is the amount of dust that finds its way in to camera lenses/glass covers and screen glass... potentially. Clearly this will vary from phone type to phone type - but the risk is there anyway.
(Sony IPxx phones have ingress protection that would probably be damaged by forced air)
Your call.
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Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.
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Mr Hofs said:
Yes but then you blow it into the phone. I rather have it out of the phone
What i do from time to time (and did with all my phones) is to rub really good sticky tape over the grills and then pull it off including as much dirt as it can get.
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I've actually tried compressed air, a vacuum, tape, and even silly putty. I don't know what's in there, but it's not coming out.
Same here. I am unable to put up with touchwiz but I love sense. With multirom just ported. I can run cm11 and sense. Best of both worlds. 10/10 phone.
Think you guys have had a lot of phones? I just bought phone number 45 in the last 3 years. The M8 is the longest I've had any phone (same 5 months as OP). Use to change phones as often as every two weeks because craigslist makes it so easy. But I'm sticking to this one! Still enjoy it a lot!
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No complaints here. As soon as I got it home. I did all the usual hacks. But I had to RUU in order to get the last update. Been running stock since and I'm still impressed. I've even come to appreciate the camera and have taken some pretty decent pictures.
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NYLUVBUG said:
No complaints here. As soon as I got it home. I did all the usual hacks. But I had to RUU in order to get the last update. Been running stock since and I'm still impressed. I've even come to appreciate the camera and have taken some pretty decent pictures.
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The camera was a HUGE reservation for me there for a while, until I found the 16MP Photoshop action. Now I love it
Had mine for 3 month now, best phone Ive had without doubts.
ViperOneM8 on it, and just new OTA
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Had mine for 3 month now, best phone Ive had without doubts.
ViperOneM8 on it, and just new OTA
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Yeah i bet there will be more over a period of time
Indeed it will! New twrp got multirom.
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Agreed debating on the Note 4 because I really miss the spen and large screen. Samsung's lackluster support after 12 months especially on the Note Series. (Seems like the "s" series is better supported.) Prevents me from jumping ship. The rumors of a 6 inch NeXus program is really tempting. For now I want to stay HTC also in June heard rumors of HTC Prime or the max successor. Haven't heard much of anything on that...I love Phablets!
Since last November, I've had a moto x, n5 and now an M8. I doubt I'll be getting another phone for a couple years now.
Unless new ones wash my car, do my dishes, read the kids bedtime stories and tuck them in... Then massage my back. ?
Oh, and grocery shop for me.
i have had my m8 for merely 24 hours, but im certain that this is gonna be with me for another 2 years... damn im so in love with this phone. its the best upgrade over my one x. respect to htc for making such a beauty
I've also had mine for about 5 months. Got it about two weeks after it came out. Definitely my favorite phone so far. My only complaint is that the sleek aluminum body makes it so "slippery". When I first got it, it always felt like it was going to fly out of my hand, so I put a thin TPU case on it. Gives it much more grip, and doesn't detract from its style too much.
1. Turbo charger is insane
2. The screen is gorgeous
3. The battery will make a full day of work with heavy duty usage
4. Love the Moto voice
5. No Verizon logos
6. Love the looks, and the nylon back is awesome
7. I do believe the size is the sweet spot, my note's great for use, but not do much carrying it around, this beast is big enough even for my old eyes and disappears in your pocket
What else do you like about this phone?
It's very early in the turbo's life, yes I think a few things needs fixed, and I believe they will in time, reading these threads make it seem like a disaster of a phone, I'm saying there's more to love then hate.
I really don't have a problem with the phone. I'm still learning what it does. Like it telling me good afternoon and reading my text message to me today..lol
I use the phone for work and as a personal phone. The biggest thing for me getting the phone was the battery. I bought it yesterday so, I have only charged it once. When I snagged it at 7am this morning, I played Clash of Clans, checked my email, the weather ans played Spades. Bout 30 minutes. I then talked throughout the day for around 5 hours of talk time. Played COC a few more times for a couple minutes, checked emails, had google find me a FedEx box and navigate me to it and a few other random things. As I am right now, the battery is at 53%. THAT IS EFFING RETARDED!! I came from an S3. I had to charge it twice daily just to be able to make it home from work without it dying. I felt like that commercial against Apple where everyones at the airport hugging a wall. I was that guy..lol Ever gone to a college basketball game and found yourself next to the mens room charging your phone so you have enough juice to make a call on the way home in case of emergency?
I can hammer this phone with everything I got and it's going to make it through the day. I could ask for nothing more. Add in a 15 minute charge can get me 8 hours... wow.
Screen size is perfect, fabric back is cool and in a month or two I will have Lollipop and my Data and Voice at the same time back with VoLTE. I'm good to go.
Its basically the sexiest phone ever.
I was in the elevator, a lady wanted to have my babies because of the Turbo.
If thats not a job well done by Motorola, I dont knwo what is
This phone pretty much changed my life! Once I left the Verizon store and waddled over to Walmart, the chicks took notice immediately! The chicks noticed the tier 1 Kevlar on this phone so they immediately assumed I was a millionaire and asked to borrow money for something called meth?!? No way was I gonna give them money for whatever that stuff is cause they clearly needed soap way more. Once I gave them girls some soap money they drove off in their rascals into the night and that's when it happened, I caught a whiff of pall malls and mountain dew and from out of nowhere comes my dreamgirl! The sweatpants and flip flops she was wearing were just like the ones she was wearing in my dreams! Once we finished up our mickey D $1 doubles we shared a smoke and went back to my trailer and made sweet love. Thank you droid turbo!
What I like
No Verizon logos anywhere. Welcome change from my DROID DNA
Went from 2020 mAh to 3900 mAh. Battery is insane from what I'm used to
Build quality is great. My DNA creaked and flexed. The Turbo is rock solid
Moto Display is pretty cool and useful
Nearly stock Android is a huge plus
Much faster than my DNA. No stutters or lag
Charging is extremely fast and not needed often
There's plenty more but these are the most important to me.
The complaints I see, seem like they are coming from people who did not do their research, or otherwise cannot appreciate how awesome simple, stock Android is. But I agree with all of the above. Its a great phone.
I like that my wife doesn't complain about her phone anymore and tells me she's happy instead!
Just got mine at 4 this afternoon and setting up. Was really scared when I started reading all the posts about problems from Saturday to today, but coming from a DNA to this I can't seem to wipe the smile from my face.
All I can say is thank you Motorola for this great device.
My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
Was a Motorola fan for years then switched to Samsung. There is something about Motorola that I love and the turbo is a wet dream come true!!!
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My only complaint is the usb cable that came with it is too short.. But I like how it's got an indent so you can feel if you're plugging it in correctly in dark.
Coming from Samsung. I've got used to the left side back button. Wish I had a close all apps option.. Otherwise I love this effin phone....
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen.
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Haha.. I'm adapting quick.. I was unrooting my s3 and kept hitting the menu button..
Well its good to see this thread. I was going to not buy this phone because of all the complaints. And I was going to get the nexus 6. But I have no clue when the nexus is coming out. Maybe I'll give this a try and if I don't like with within the 14 days I'll get the nexus if it's available or the note 4.
So I hit a little buyers remorse over the past day or two. I even tried to switch out for the Note 4, but it would cost me around $100 extra due to restocking fees and activation fees and blah blah. Maybe this will help.
The battery has been good. One charge a day keeps it going, and the turbo charge is spectacular. I'm coming from a SGS3 with a ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery, so I have to keep reminding myself that the battery life just wont compare.
The screen is beautiful, even if it is over saturated.
Ballistic Nylon FTW. Never had a phone where I don't immediately want to slap a case on it, although in my profession, it really really needs one.
Replacement screen is something every company should offer at least one time. I still hate microscratches, but it definitely gives me piece of mind that I don't have to run out and get a screen protector.
The camera is at least an upgrade.
Capacative buttons aren't really all that bad.
I made-do with a 32 gig micro sd card in my S3 for two years, so I guess I don't need expandable storage.
It really likes to go fast.
Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
Likes:
Battery life (even though I'm still tweaking it)
Nearly vanilla android
great screen
no hard home button
super fast and smooth
size is good
Coming from a GS4 which I never really liked. I was missing my Galaxy Nexus goodness! I think the Turbo will serve me for quite a while as long as we get the bootloader unlocked.
I love this phone. I have had zero issues with it so far. Coming from an S4 this thing is amazing. Still learning stuff about it
Hopefully hibiese more forums to help us repair certain errors
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that reverse back button will bite you in the ass..lol Im trying to get used to it. 3 years give or take with an S3 and my finger just goes there with my brain letting it happen. (to the wrong side)
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I was so happy when Cyanogenmod made on screen navigation buttons with the correct android layout an option. I can't stand that Samsung has switched them around from what Google intended. So in all, this has been an easier transition for me than most Samsung owners.
Here's a picture of my S4 with correct navigation buttons, taken with my Turbo.
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Lolz. Every forum on XDA fills up with complaints. The people who are enjoying their phones, which are usually the majority, are out doing other things. This is normal - I've been on here since 2006 and its always been like that. Squeaky wheel...
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This is so true..
Okay so i dont know if this should be posted here, so if it belongs elsewhere please feel free to move it mods. I tried to post in the "real life reviews" but couldnt find a spot to submit a new thread there.
I hate the v20. I've had it since October when i was forced to give up my Note. I wanted to trade it in for the S7 edge but that wasn't available, and i liked what i'd heard about the v20 so i went ahead and went for it. Me and my wife both upgrade at the same time so we both got the v20, after trading in the Notes.
At first it was fine enough. I did enjoy the cameras on the phone quite a bit. Amazing cameras. but then the glass shattered over the two lenses (without so much as a drop) and the exposures became terrible. So the camera was ruined for me. I could have mailed it away to LG but i dont have a second phone and i can't be without mine for 2 weeks while they do repairs so i just have to deal with it. The screen got small scratches on it over time, which really surprised me. I have never had a single device going all the way back to the G1 that has gotten scratched. I dont know if this phone uses gorilla glass or not, but thats another issue.
The battery life sucks. Most days by lunch time my phone is under 15 percent. I've done everything you can think of to solve the problem, but nothing works. New roms, battery savers, efficiency stuff..i've tried it all. It just sucks.
The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now. Long story short, i'm EXTREMELY tempted to get the new S8 plus but i'm gonna wait on the note because i really love that stylus...
Am i alone? does anyone else feel this way? I really hate it because i've never had an android phone i disliked. But i must regretfully admit, that this one sucks.
How do you feel?
First of all, you broke your phone and didn't fix it. Not wise. Second, use the phone for what it is designed around; swappable batteries. They last all day. You are apparently using apps that drain your battery. When that happens, you just pull off the back and swap with a fresh one. That alone sets this phone apart from the rest. Third, you should protect your screen with a tempered glass protector. 10 bucks can change your world. All of your problems are self inflicted it seems...that's what really sucks!
Yea, I'm gonna echo FreakyFrank.
It's not a huge battery given the size of the screen, so get a swapper. Especially given your load it's a wise idea.
Second, check the battery section under Settings and see where your battery is going to. Perhaps you need to remove an app or to that are abusing the juice.
Next, even if you rock case-free, you should still get a tempered glass screen protectors. There are good ones out there for well less than $10 (I got the Spigen and love it).
In short, the V20 sucks for you. Perhaps you've already optimized your phone and it's still not a good fit. That happens. Each phone is a set of trade-offs based on the purpose of that phone as determined by the manufacturer. Some of these make some phones not as optimal for a given person as it would be for others.
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You couldn't find a temporary replacement phone to use if you'd sent your V20 away for repair? That strikes me as a poor excuse.
And a LG V20 Battery Charging KIT BCK-5200 doesn't cost a lot so thats your second gripe shot down. I bet if it was a non-removable battery you'd be wishing for the old days of removable batteries.
Over 6 months ownership of such a shi**y phone that has a "million other issues" and the only thing you've done is log in here to whinge about it.
Sell your V20, get another phone, and start formulating a rant about its faults 6 months down the line.... Happy days
Edit: you should change "the" to "my" in the thread title...
I'm really (not really) sorry to hear that V20 didn't work out for you quite well. So the morale of the story is
1. Fix your phone once it's broken.
2. always carry a spare phone just in case (at least, $100 cheap android phone)
3. never ever used a phone naked even if the phone is tough or rugged. put on a case and a tempered glass screen protector.
4. take advantage of the phone's main feature (in this case, removable battery).
LOL i +1 all of these posts.
In addition to the following:
-The camera lens replacement is already out there for sell . Ebay, amazon, you name it. And it doesnt cost practically a thing.
-How many user apps do you have? how many of them are constantly synchronizing? How long do you use your phone with heavy battery consuming apps such as ... Well. Facebook alone is a big consumer (it synchronizes a lot). I currently have 93 user apps. from which 28 of them are constantly synchronizing. Not to mention that i play fun run arena for an hour or 2 a day. and my battery last about 4 - 5 hours with screen on. or even up to almost 3 days with screen off and some of the app synchronizing.
But still, i think 6 month is really too late to be writing a thread like this lol!
LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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I think i stated on another thread that i was starting to think that it is just a percentage of v20 that has that defect. You know how many times i have dropped my phone or even threw it to the wall by accidrnt (sure it did have a poetic revolution cover) but still, the pressure should have broken the camera glass by now. Nevertheless, mine still intact. And i have 6 month already with the phone. Another thing i have done that i believe it may causes the glass to break out of nothing, is to be on really cold and hot weather. Yet... Thr glass still not broken. (between 24 F and 106 F temprtstures >> oklahoma lol)
"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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Yes it is over the top. I mean the thing is i have loved ALL my android phones. They all have a "soul" to them tha makes me like them for their own reasons. I can't put my finger on it exactly but it just feels like something is majorly lacking with the v20 compared to my others. I mean does no one agree with me at all on any of the points i made?
Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
Yep I get your reasons... I think now we're on a similar page.
I've only had my V20 two days so I'm still exploring but so far I'm really pleased with it. Every phone manufactured has good and bad points so I try to take each one on its own merits and flaws rather than making comparisons. More so this time with switching manufacturers.
I've only had one LG in the past, the KF750 Secret, and I really liked that. But there will be no Note for me.
Anyway good luck with your V20, and your next phone too.
And get that lens fixed man
I love my v20. Last phone made with sensibility in mind. Removable battery, IR blaster, and SD slot. Only thing lacking is water resistance, but there are solutions for that. Plus I have 100+ apps installed and mine still lasts all day and then some.
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Not exactly on topic (I guess) but as someone who is fully committed and stoked about the V20, I stopped and checked out the S8 the other day. I will say it looks really awesome. Samsung did a fantasticjob with the display.
But it still stands, like others say. The V20 is probably the last phone you can get with such a great feature set. I don't want to buy a new phone every year, other year, week, whatever. I want a phone that will last. Removable battery plus an LCD (not AMOLED) will truly last.
As a iphone user with the 7 Plus being my last and trying out the V20 it does kinda suck. battery life is pretty terrible for a newer model phone, I wanted to give android another shot but it still is not as polished as IOS is.
Sounds to me like you didn't do your research before buying the V20.
LG's V series of phones are meant to be the last of the "oldschool" style cellphones with expandable storage AND a removable battery with Phillips head screw construction. The idea is that when your battery dies, as others have stated, you pop off the back cover and pop a new battery in. Speaking of which, the other users are definitely right about having too many apps running. I have unlocked my bootloader and installed LineageOS (stock android), which could be a factor in my better battery life, and usually get close to 48 hours of moderate to heavy usage per charge. Battery aside, if something breaks, you simply buy the spare part online and replace it yourself. The replacement camera glass is only around $25 and takes about 10 minutes to swap.
I definitely do agree with you that the camera glass is a bit fragile, however, I doubt it broke from just the softness of your touch. If you dropped your phone even just once, it may have broken then, which is a bit ridiculous being that it's the camera glass...But if you had gotten the S7 Edge and dropped it once, there's a very, very good chance the the entirety of your front or back glass would have shattered (or both - the whole phone is glass) so you really should not be complaining about this.
But all comments aside, definitely go with the upcoming Note if you have the dough and are unsatisfied with the V20. I'd love to grab the new Note but I'm just a broke college student (hence why I got the V20. Cheap repairs =P ).
Anyway, best of luck phone hunting in the future!
I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
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The V20 is a powerhouse and can hold its own against the rest. No phone will be perfect and its all about preference. However, I too gave up my Note 7 for the V20. I will be definitely going back to the Note series.
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I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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You must have the screen on and be using the phone most if not the whole 5 hours.
Plug it in. If you don't have ac\dc available - get a nice power bank.
The camera glass is only $6.69 on eBay with the adhesive part and the glass.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/282431684616
I've read about the faulty battery issue, and sudden reboots/bootloop issue.
Is there a way to minimize the risk, if I can check the device physically?
Checking the manufacturing date? Checking how many hours are left under "battery" in settings?
Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks!
Don't buy this phone. There are so many issues with this thing. My network signals all of a sign went kaput (the network chip got fried go figure!). No I'm stuck with a giant iPod. Save your money and buy something else (serious advice).
I agree, don't buy this phone used. You have no way to test the battery and other issues might appear.
My phone is a year old and I have already gotten a couple of sudden shutdowns. In addition people often complain that they can't hear me and my voice is intermittently muffled.
i wouldn't recommend getting this phone used, especially this late in the game... you can't just ignore all the issues being posted
I stumbled across this because I am buying a used 64gb 6p on eBay right now (7- 22- 2018). My research shows that if one comes across a survivor of the bootloop death (which can be overcome by disabling the 4 large cores, why bother) AND one is willing to eventually buy a $15 battery kit and can use a heat gun effectively, the Nexus 6p is THE best phone right now for no more than $150. The 128gb can be had for $180. If one buys one manufactured later than 2/2016, the battery lasts longer and supposedly some other minor bugs were fixed.
For $150 even if you only get one year from it I believe it's worth it. Phones now are so expensive unless your signing your life away on a plan.
Battery problems, heat and lag issues. Can't wait to upgrade to Pixel 3 or anything else. I wouldn't recommend spending money on this peace of ... I loved the phone when it worked as supposed to, but now it just don't. Oh, and microphone problems when using speakerphone are also common.
I bought mine on ebay 64 gb for 150, it had a bad battery so i got them to refund $50. i paid like $15 to fix it been working absaloutey fine for 5 months so far. No lag at all for me or random reboots, all my cores work,signal works fine, and so do calls . I dont really know how it is on stock i have been on abc rom and franco kernel the whole time and loving the phone
This might be irrelevant to OP but here's my 2 cents
I bought one (exterior is almost mint) a few weeks ago and I couldn't be happier. I got it for $100 (from a guy that badly needed some money to go on holiday ) and honestly, I would say it's comparable to new mid range $300+ phones, even surpassing them in some regards - camera, software support, build quality, design, "feel". I'm not even sure why I bought it, since my trusty Z2 is still holding on, I guess I couldn't resist that price.
I knew what I was getting into, I read about all the problems beforehand, but I figured if it didn't get the bootloop till now, it probably won't. Also, I ordered a new battery off Aliexpress the day I got the phone. Screen On time used to be 2-3 hrs with random shutdown at 15-5%, now after replacement I'm getting ~5 hrs. Great success.
So for the 3 people out there looking to buy this phone, you can expect:
-bad battery life and random shutdown (just get a new one, they're dirt cheap)
-minor burn-in of the navbar (I notice it on white backgrounds only)
-getting warm after using it a while BUT it's a lot better after replacing the battery
-yellowish tint of the screen (I notice it since I'm coming from a cold LCD)
+camera performance comparable to flagships, especially with the Pixel camera app
+sexy design
+great build quality
+smooth overall
+very potent double speakers
+VERY fast charging with the original charger
I bought a used 128gb from a "refurbish" mill for $150 on eBay. It went dead after 2 days. Total battery/system failure and no joy with the charger. I got a free return shipping label and a full refund.
The same day I resolved to buy from an individual who can answer questions. If the seller couldn't tell me the manufacture date they were dropped from the watchlist. My research seemed to indicate that units made after 2/2016 were the ones to get.
I bought a 64gb made in 10/2016 from a guy on eBay for $100. It's in better than near mint condition. Google announced the end of the Nexus brand the same month so this has to be one of the last made. Everything is perfect (including Oreo 8.1) except that AccuBattery reports 60% battery health. I concur with all that skullzhunter said.
I already planned to change the battery, but 60% health will buy me some time before I have to track down a heatgun. The battery kits are cheap and contain all the special tools for the job.
I'd like to hear from skullzhunter what the date of manufacture is on his phone (for others, boot into recovery and select "barcodes"). Also, were you able to remove the top and bottom covers intact? I imagine the trick is to apply enough heat. The question is, how much heat is TOO much? Any tips on re-installing those little covers with future access in mind?
Lawrencetate1 said:
I bought a used 128gb from a "refurbish" mill for $150 on eBay. It went dead after 2 days. Total battery/system failure and no joy with the charger. I got a free return shipping label and a full refund.
The same day I resolved to buy from an individual who can answer questions. If the seller couldn't tell me the manufacture date they were dropped from the watchlist. My research seemed to indicate that units made after 2/2016 were the ones to get.
I bought a 64gb made in 10/2016 from a guy on eBay for $100. It's in better than near mint condition. Google announced the end of the Nexus brand the same month so this has to be one of the last made. Everything is perfect (including Oreo 8.1) except that AccuBattery reports 60% battery health. I concur with all that skullzhunter said.
I already planned to change the battery, but 60% health will buy me some time before I have to track down a heatgun. The battery kits are cheap and contain all the special tools for the job.
I'd like to hear from skullzhunter what the date of manufacture is on his phone (for others, boot into recovery and select "barcodes"). Also, were you able to remove the top and bottom covers intact? I imagine the trick is to apply enough heat. The question is, how much heat is TOO much? Any tips on re-installing those little covers with future access in mind?
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Interesting trick with the Barcodes, seems my phone was manufactured in November 2015.
The operation was more difficult than I expected, but I managed to remove the covers with minor marks. You have to be VERY patient and careful, and you don't necessarily need a heat gun, a hair dryer will do. I don't think you can apply too much heat really, the frame will quickly get much hotter than the glass/plastic pieces but it cools down just as quick. Just heat it up until you can't touch the aluminium, there's nothing you can damage.
A trick that I unfortunately discovered after putting everything back together would be to use a sticker/vinyl skin to lift the covers from the corners (after heating), instead of digging in the gaps - as there are no gaps really.
So other than a hair dryer, you will need a 1.5 philips screwdriver, some thin plastic pieces to keep the screen assembly from snapping back into the case when you pry it open, and most importantly the thinnest strongest piece of metal you can find.
I used some tiny 3M double sided sticky strips to stick the pieces back and kept some of the old glue as well, I removed the gunky parts only. I think there are different glues used for top and bottom, the one on top being easier to reuse, but the bottom piece kinda sinks in the hole, so you need to leave just a little bit and press really hard so it snaps into place. I think it will be 10x easier to remove them now if I ever need to.