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I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.

Case-mates are awesome, I got the tough case for my Nexus, and it rocks.
The screen protection that it comes with is also great and very invisible / fingerprint resistant.
After I got it, I finally didn't feel like I was holding a fragile egg in my hands when handling my phone

Congrats on the purchase!
For the tint, i didnt seem to have that problem, but there are no guarantees that you wont get them as well, but more and more are reporting that it hasnt been a problem.
I wanted to get a gel case, but i opted out for the zagg invisible shield full body (minus the screen, i bought a regualr screen protector off ebay), had it pro installed at the zagg kiosk and couldnt be happier. And I am a little worried about droppping it, but i should be fine.
I debated on that as well. But after 5 days of playing with the phone and everything seems to be working fine, so i rooted and installed a custom rom! REALLY happy with the decision! cyanogen 5053 rom kicks a$$! and also running at 250 MB free RAM!
As for regrets, none whatsoever. Because now i still have my upgrade availabilty, so any new phones coming out this summer that i would actually like to buy, i can get at discount price. And plus, I sold my 3gs to buy the n1 so almost an even trade. About $60 out of my pockets to get the n1, so im happy with it!

izmar said:
I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.
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Dude, best phone I ever had. No purple tint on mine. Yeah, there are some issues to be addressed by google, like adding copy to emails and adding repeating reminders.. but nothing major.
Overall it's 98% AWESOME, 1% kinda weird, 1% needs fixing.
Other phones? Like Supersonic? Way too big, and Sprint-only. Desire? Meh, imo, it's worse than N1. You trade finger sensor fingy for dual noise-cancelling mics.. I take the mics any day.
Oh, dude... make sure you condition your battery on first charge.. seriously, when you get it, hold your horses, let it charge with PHONE OFF for 12 hours. It'll go a loooong way towards your battery life, especially first month or so. Just set it to charge as soon as you get it and don't touch it for 12 hours.
Regarding the case.. I recommend using a belt-clip case. It covers the phone fully, it's only on when you're not using the phone (so you can enjoy your "naked" N1), and phone is always out of harms way on your waist. Imo, that's the best option.

I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.

deprecate said:
I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.
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That was another buying point for me too, resellability! I bet I could sell this for $400 in a year, if it's in nearly mint condition... Depending on how fast phones get in the next year.
I had a tough time deciding between the gelli case and the tough case. I decided the tough case would be too bulky, as I like feeling the slimness of the phone. I remember when I first got a case for my iphone, I had it on for months straight, then it ripped, and I had it without a case. What a difference! So I'm hoping the gelli case will be a good thin fit.
As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
Update -
Shipping
Apr 15, 2010 3:27 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Apr 15, 2010 3:12 PM
Left FedEx origin facility
PLAINFIELD, IN
Apr 15, 2010 7:49 AM
Shipment information sent to FedEx
Apr 15, 2010 8:12 AM
Picked up
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
So it went from indianapolis to plainfield, back to indianapolis haha.
What time during the day did you all receive your phones?

izmar said:
As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.

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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.
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How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?

Read the battery threads in Q&A for some unbiased information about batteries, intial charging strategy, etc. I just got mine day before last. No purple tint whatsoever at any brightness. I do have the screen calibration where it wont accept presses or they are misplaced, a quick sleep/wake fixes it and it only happens on the odd occasion so I havent worked up much of a care over it. Multi touch has the cross axis issue and that seems to hit me with pinch zooming but its easy to work around by not pinching too close together. Still, if ya gotta work around it its an issue in my mind and the way I read it software will never fully address it. Since I actually prefer to one hand and use the magnifying glasses this doesnt affect me. I only play puzzle games so cant comment on multi issues there. I have no issues with 3G/edge cycling and I am in a borderline 3G area.
Other trivia... I have never had a phone pick up gps lock so fast. I find the keyboard acceptable but it could be better. I have not changed it because I like to use a phone for a week or so and get a good feel for the stock firmware before I start swapping things out. Outlook support would have to get better to suck. I think the screen looks great outside of the reds which have some bloom. The camera takes half decent pictures with little effort at the default automatic settings. This is all I need so cant comment on what a photographer type might get out of it with fiddling. The trackball comes in handy when you want to edit text. Much easier than trying to get a fingernail in exactly the right spot. Accessories are not easy to find on the ground, had to hit amazon.
Bottom line after 48 hours of ownership. This is a great phone with no major weaknesses outside of the outlook support. Its a pleasure to use and I have no regrets about making this purchase. My wife is starting to make noises and I would not be surprised if there are soon two of these in the house. I think your going to be happy.

lol check my thread about nexus regrets.
but honestly no. overall I'ld buy the phone again. I already have when it broke, and I paid full price.
DEFINATELY root your phone, IF yoru careful enough not to break it. theres teh n1 torch for using your led as a flashlight, i depend on wireless tethering alot, I love loading sense from the desire onto my phone, you can add alot more RAM from kernel configuration... I rooted both phones. It's worth it.

Thanks for your input Krabman. I'm really excited to get it tomorrow.
trevor - I am going to use it for a few days, maybe a few weeks before rooting, just in case theres something that needs to be fixed.
I really want to root it though holy crap.

izmar said:
How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?
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I would advise against ever using your battery until it dies. It does harm to your battery. If my power goes below 10% i will usually turn it off until i can get it to a power source.

I can tell you lotsa great things about the Nexus One, but I'm sure you've heard them all, besides its fun discovering them first hand on your own All I can say though is you wont regret owning this phone... I love it almost as much as my girlfriend.

Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.

I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.
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rjhay22 said:
I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?

grats man! im on my second n1 and i have the purple tint now. but its only a big deal sitting next to my old one. ppl are just super picky. unlock and root after 12 hr charge imo. ppl have reported sending them to HTC for repair and getting them relocked when returned. don't be so scared imo. thats why this phone is badass. its a tinkerers toy like legos.
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Dude you are definitely not going to be disappointed. I was a 2+ year iPhone user, and I am not looking back at all. This phone is a joy to play with. I had it for a few days and ended up rooting it to install Cyanogen. The mod makes a big difference, all the little things that seemed silly about stock Eclair have been cleaned up in his mod. I need to install the new version today, but I could not be more thrilled with the swap to the N1. The gelly cases are the way to go, this phone is so thin and light, and the cases just give it a nice grippyness without having to add bulk. Give it a few days to get used to some of the quirks, but you'll be happy you changed over.

I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
izmar said:
Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?
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rjhay22 said:
I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
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JUST GOT IT!!!! I'm charging it now. You dont know how hard it is to sit here, and watch it charge. I CANT EVEN PLAY WITH MY NEW BABY!!!!
It'll be worth it though...
I am just going to charge it until the light turns green. I see no point in letting it sit there plugged in with a full battery. With most devices this is bad for the battery.
I'm hoping I dont have the purple tint. If I do... I might have to send it in, simply because I want what I paid for. Half a grand! I mean cmon!
I will report back soon I'm just trying to pass the time...

5 months later - still love HTC One M8

I have had this HTC One M8 for five months now, and it still impresses me I have owned 13 different Android flagship phones the past five years, and I would put this One M8 at the top, especially if running the 'GPE' version. Great design, amazing build quality, awesome sounding stereo speakers that are loud and clear, it's warp speed fast, gorgeous screen, and the battery life, wow.
I just installed a fresh 'GPE' ROM on Monday, and look at these battery life results, this compares to my old Galaxy Note 2, which was a beast on battery.
I unplugged my phone yesterday off the charger at 6:00am, and didn't charge again until bedtime at 11:00pm. I got 6h On Screen time, and total usage of 17 hours. And it was a workday, so major use nonstop for work, two hours of phone calls, hundred texts, GPS Navigation, plenty of web use looking up Vendor sites, etc... And most of this was on the 4G LTE network, only a couple hours of this on WiFi. I was hammering on this phone all day and night, HEAVY use.

I'm known as "that guy who changes phones every 6 months", but I gotta say, I'm hanging on to this M8 for the foreseeable future. I've had mine since about 2 weeks after launch, and my only complaint with my device is not being able to get the dust/whatever it is out of my speaker grills no matter what I try. Other than that 10/10.

Looks really great i'm not even able to get that on sense and even wasn't able to get it on GPE...but i think because the phone is for more then 10 hours on mobile data and i just have 2-3 bars because of LTE not in a town it Drains much more Juice will try soon again the GPE Rom or at first the Dev Edition RUU

glad to hear your synopsis on the phone... though i am late to the party, (since i have just ordered it today) im sure that i will hang onto the device atleast for a couple of years. heard alot of good reviews about this beast and i have no regrets of chosing this over the xperia z2 or z3

dressanderc said:
I'm known as "that guy who changes phones every 6 months", but I gotta say, I'm hanging on to this M8 for the foreseeable future. I've had mine since about 2 weeks after launch, and my only complaint with my device is not being able to get the dust/whatever it is out of my speaker grills no matter what I try. Other than that 10/10.
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Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.

boe323 said:
Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.
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Yes but then you blow it into the phone. I rather have it out of the phone
What i do from time to time (and did with all my phones) is to rub really good sticky tape over the grills and then pull it off including as much dirt as it can get.

One of the main reasons for NOT blowing air with force in to a phone is the amount of dust that finds its way in to camera lenses/glass covers and screen glass... potentially. Clearly this will vary from phone type to phone type - but the risk is there anyway.
(Sony IPxx phones have ingress protection that would probably be damaged by forced air)
Your call.

boe323 said:
Can of compressed air with a straw attached will blow out the holes on the speaker grills, unless of course its sticky crap.
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Mr Hofs said:
Yes but then you blow it into the phone. I rather have it out of the phone
What i do from time to time (and did with all my phones) is to rub really good sticky tape over the grills and then pull it off including as much dirt as it can get.
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I've actually tried compressed air, a vacuum, tape, and even silly putty. I don't know what's in there, but it's not coming out.

Same here. I am unable to put up with touchwiz but I love sense. With multirom just ported. I can run cm11 and sense. Best of both worlds. 10/10 phone.

Think you guys have had a lot of phones? I just bought phone number 45 in the last 3 years. The M8 is the longest I've had any phone (same 5 months as OP). Use to change phones as often as every two weeks because craigslist makes it so easy. But I'm sticking to this one! Still enjoy it a lot!

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Ghost

No complaints here. As soon as I got it home. I did all the usual hacks. But I had to RUU in order to get the last update. Been running stock since and I'm still impressed. I've even come to appreciate the camera and have taken some pretty decent pictures.
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NYLUVBUG said:
No complaints here. As soon as I got it home. I did all the usual hacks. But I had to RUU in order to get the last update. Been running stock since and I'm still impressed. I've even come to appreciate the camera and have taken some pretty decent pictures.
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The camera was a HUGE reservation for me there for a while, until I found the 16MP Photoshop action. Now I love it

Had mine for 3 month now, best phone Ive had without doubts.
ViperOneM8 on it, and just new OTA

Mezot said:
Had mine for 3 month now, best phone Ive had without doubts.
ViperOneM8 on it, and just new OTA
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Yeah i bet there will be more over a period of time

Indeed it will! New twrp got multirom.
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Agreed debating on the Note 4 because I really miss the spen and large screen. Samsung's lackluster support after 12 months especially on the Note Series. (Seems like the "s" series is better supported.) Prevents me from jumping ship. The rumors of a 6 inch NeXus program is really tempting. For now I want to stay HTC also in June heard rumors of HTC Prime or the max successor. Haven't heard much of anything on that...I love Phablets!

Since last November, I've had a moto x, n5 and now an M8. I doubt I'll be getting another phone for a couple years now.
Unless new ones wash my car, do my dishes, read the kids bedtime stories and tuck them in... Then massage my back. ?
Oh, and grocery shop for me.

i have had my m8 for merely 24 hours, but im certain that this is gonna be with me for another 2 years... damn im so in love with this phone. its the best upgrade over my one x. respect to htc for making such a beauty

I've also had mine for about 5 months. Got it about two weeks after it came out. Definitely my favorite phone so far. My only complaint is that the sleek aluminum body makes it so "slippery". When I first got it, it always felt like it was going to fly out of my hand, so I put a thin TPU case on it. Gives it much more grip, and doesn't detract from its style too much.

On the fence about buying a Nexus 6P; Convince Me

On the fence; convince me.
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Stop worrying. Once you go phablet, you want want to go back. Plus, front facing mothereffing speakers! I rock the piss out of my nexus 6 and the speakers are just so, damn, good. Back on the size subject, you adapt to the size very fast and I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.

Why not go with 5x

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Why not go with 5x
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It's between the 6p and the 5x for me, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for the jump in size.
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I hear the 6p is a narrower device than my N6, so I say go for the 6p.
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Good to hear, I kinda thought the 6 was a little uncomfortable to handle with its size and design. Plus I prefer the more square design of the 6p over the roundness of the 6.
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I came from Galaxy S6, no regrets. I did own the Note 4 before that but after you make the adjustment you'll like having a larger screen.

I came from a Moto X 2014. The device feels huge but very premium and thin. The camera and screen are insanely good. I ended up returning it because when playing music through the aux it would stop randomly. Idk if it was hardware or software but it was annoying. The speakers are good as well but each sound a bit different. I assume it's what sits behind each speakers that gives it the effect that one is louder than the other. I also had weird stutters with apps like instagram, snapchat, and the settings menu. Ultimately I don't think I'll repurchase the device because of its size. I had it for a week and got used to making adjustments to handle a big device but it's so much easier for me to manage my Moto X 2014.
I also have the 5x sitting on my desk. I don't think I can justify the price to upgrade from my Moto X 2014 so that one will also be returned. You might want to check it out. It's more of the workhorse of the two and feels really good in the hand.

You get used to the phone being big for the most part. I was using a phone with a 5 inch screen temporarily after having a samsung note 3 and I did like how much easier it was to handle the phone but at the same time I missed the bigger screen. You need to decide yourself which is more important to you so you don't have buyers remorse.

Just buy my old N6. You'll love it. It's nowhere near as awesome as my 6P, but you'll love it. Yup.

You will adapt to its size after a hour or so of use. You will begin to realize that it isn't even that huge anymore.

Get another Nexus 5 for $100 on Ebay and enjoy life.

I'd love to share my thoughts about this phone with you. I have a lot and I also come from the Nexus 5 and skipped the Nexus 6 entirely because of its size. So strap in...
I was also on the fence back in mid October. I just couldn't make the jump yet. The 5X didn't seem like much of an upgrade to me. It just seemed like they remade the 5 again. I'm not here to argue specs with anyone, but personally, I wasn't too impressed. I was impressed with the 6P specs though. That felt more right in the way of an upgrade. I didn't really need an upgrade, but the screen is slightly raised on my N5. It clicks when you press the right spot. It does not impact functionality at all and it's been like that about 6 months now. I got my N5 brand new on launch, so it held up pretty well I'd say. I have a lot of friends who (despite my best efforts) are with the dark side and recently got the 6+ and 6S+ iPhones. They all justify the size of the phone with the real estate for gaming and movies. I get that, I do. I'd much rather game and watch movies on my 55" HDTV then on my 24" in the bedroom. After playing some games and checking out Netflix on their phones, I did like the bigger size in that sense. That being said, I got the phone delivered to me on November 9th and I am still getting used to it. If you've ever held a 6+, that is what you can expect. I compared my 6P to a buddies 6+ and they are exactly the same size.
My best advice to you (and anyone else in a similar situation) would be to be please, please, please, please, please do not let the threads in the 6P General forum scare you. There's a lot of threads about a lot of defects and issues. They have already acknowledged and addressed these issues and aside from a few bad eggs, from what I've seen the RMA's that have been going out have been better. I have 0 issues with my device. Everything is cut and lined up properly. All flush. Nothing is loose or raised. I decided to make the jump and was ready to order from Project Fi the moment I finally got my invite from them. That happened on 10/16/2015. I ordered the 32gb graphite. I love the overall look and feel of it way more than the N5 which I could not get enough of at launch. The build quality of the phone is amazing. The weight of it and the metal touch make it feel extremely high quality. That's the one thing I always thought Google could take a lesson from Apple in. Despite my opinion on Apple and iOS, I could always appreciate the build quality of the iPhones. They felt so solid and great to hold. None of my phones gave me the same satisfaction as iPhones did. I never had one, but I've played with my friends. It always felt so legit while my phones always felt like cheap lightweight plastic toys. Google finally stepped up in that sense. I have had mine since the 9th of November and so far I have not had a single issue as found in this forum. The phone still sits completely flush on the front or back. No wobbling when you press one of the edges. No bends, the back glass hasn't spontaneously cracked. Everything works 100%. It's solid. It's legit.
The feel is phenomenal. The first thing you will notice is the feel of the aluminum. It feels great. No, I mean great. Amazing, even. The one downside being that it is slippery. Keep a good grip on it. Don't try to balance it on your leg or clothes when you're sitting down. It'll slip. Besides that though? The first time you leave you phone idling in a cool room and pick it up. Oh man, I was not prepared for that. I would compare it to flipping your pillow over to put your face on the cool side. You get the same satisfaction. It's refreshing, every single time. 10/10 would recommend. You don't get that with the N5, no sir.
The next thing that I noticed right away was the haptic feedback. As soon as I pressed the home button I giggled like a schoolgirl. I don't know if my N5 had a defective motor (known issue, I know), but it never, ever felt like that. It feels so much crisper, cleaner and a lot more tight. My N5 kind of sounds and feels loose and rattly. Another thing I love, which isn't really a selling point...at all is that when you listen to the haptic feedback in a dead-quite room, it makes a neat sound. The vibrations just feel deeper and sharper. I can't get enough.
My screen is perfect. Not a single issue. There is no color or hue defects at all. There is no raised edges. Everything is 100% in this department. As mentioned earlier, it is awesome for movies and gaming if that is your thing. I don't really game much besides N64 emulators and as far as videos and movies goes, Netflix and YouTube is pretty much all I use.
Next up is the front facing speakers. The front facing speakers. The front facing speaks blew me away. Coming from a Nexus 5? Absolutely blew my mind. I had both phones, one in my left hand one in my right. I opened YouTube on both and I opened up 'Who Are You' by The Who on both. I played it first on my N5, rooted with V4A installed and finely tuned. My thoughts? "OK, sounds pretty good. Yeah." I had my Viper settings to my liking and that's what I was used to. The very second I pressed play on the 6P I had the biggest grin on my face. It was so LOUD and the sound was coming right at me! You know how when you hold the Nexus 5, half of the time you cover the speaker holes with your hand? It was just the way you held it and the placement of the speaker? Especially in landscape when trying to watch a video... I hated that sooooo much. I love these speakers so much. Some people here say the sound quality is bad, but I haven't noticed that at all. No crackling or popping. Nothing sounds distorted or washed out, but there are others out there a lot more judgmental in those regards than myself.
USB Type-C. Now when I mentioned earlier than I am still getting used to the phone, this is primarily what I mean. I cannot seem to shake the habit of slightly twirling the cable and looking down at it to make sure it's facing the right direction before plugging it in. You don't need to do that anymore, just plug and go. If I don't think about it and just go to plug in, I find myself doing that almost every time.
The buttons. The buttons are nice. They have a clean, crisp click when you press them. Almost like a snap. I like the way the power button is textured. It feels nice when you slide your finger over it. While on topic of the power button, I love the double press to access camera feature. I can't tell you how many pictures I missed (animal or insect that got spooked) waiting to open my N5 camera, even from the lockscreen. Even if the 6P is idle, a quick double press of the power button and the camera is open instantly. It's so fast, I'm blown away every time. I still haven't got used to that either. Oh and the 240 FPS is so cool, just make sure you do it in well lit places otherwise it comes out grainy. I don't want to go as far as to say potato quality, but you'll see what I mean if you try in a dimmer setting.
The only, and I mean only beef I have with the buttons is the placement. I am left handed. The way I hold and use all of my phones is that I primarily support my phones with my right hand and use my left for scrolling, reaching across the screen, zooming, etc. As a result, I got into the habit of using my right hand for single handed use. It just doesn't feel right to use only my left hand with my phones. It's awkward and just not natural for me. So when I want to take a screenshot, I do have to use both hands. My right thumb and then my left hand for the power button, otherwise I end up capturing a bug report. I can take screenshots one handed if I use my left hand, but I just don't do that, ever. Other than that I have no issues with that. I do not have any rattling from them during normal usage or movement of the phone. They do slightly rattle if I shake the phone quite hard. However having button rattle ONLY when I shake it hard enough to see if they rattle is not a turn of for me, at all.
The battery. I am honestly so incredibly impressed with the battery, I cannot even begin to tell you. On my Nexus 5, I would take all sorts of measures to improve battery life as well as screen on time. Granted I did have some things working against me like the Viper drivers and things of that nature, but I would keep the brightness around 50%, usually slightly under. NFC, location, etc. was all off and I was pretty impressed with 3-3.5 hours of screen on time, per charge. With my 6P I get 6 hours of screen on time every single charge. That is with the screen at 100% full brightness at all times. Nothing is turned off either. This is with the phone bare stock. It isn't unlocked or rooted, it is completely factory stock plus about 80 or so user apps installed. At least an hour of YouTube throughout the day, probably more. I also stream Spotify sometimes, not too much though. Aside from that just web browsing. XDA, Facebook, Google+, things of that nature. As far as the brightness goes, I'm not too worried about burn in as I never got any on my Galaxy Nexus and I had that for almost 4 years. The idle drain is insane. I went an entire work day without my phone. I left it in the car and at the end of the day when I went back, it was at 99%. 8 hour shift on full bars LTE. I often find myself using the phone and after so long I'm like yeah it's about time to charge it before it dies. Since I'm used to the Nexus 5 and all, but I pull the shade down and see like 40% left and I can't help but laugh. I love it. Love love love it.
Now as far as the size goes. If that's all you're worried about... Do yourself a favor and go order the phone right now. Just do it. I was so against it myself, but you do get used to it. You really do. Eventually you get the hang of using it one handed no problem. You kinda have to tilt it in towards your palm so you can reach your thumb across to the furthest corner, but that's only if you happen to need to press whatever is in the furthest corner. Texting in landscape was a bit of a curve as well. I don't have huge hands, but I don't have small girly hands either. That's a lot of phone to cover. Instead of just resting it in your fingers, you kind of have to set it further back on your fingers to cradle it. That way you have a bit more reach with your thumbs. It took some getting used to, but now I can text one handed, or landscape with no issues. Believe me though, when you first try you will probably say nope, this isn't happening I am returning it. Don't. You get over that. Really, you do. Everything else about this phone will make you fall in love before you are inconvenienced by the size even once. Seriously, pull the trigger. You want to and you know it, stop kidding yourself. I just got used to the size though, I didn't really fall in love. I would say if they made a phone with the same specs and they found a happy medium between the N5 and the 6P as far as size goes, I'd surely downsize and get it. Not until this phone put in it's 2+ years though. I wouldn't ever send it back to get a smaller screen now that I actually have it.
I have no real complaints with any aspects of the phone. It's been so great I honestly haven't even wanted to unlock or root it yet. Now that Cataclysm is available- and a user over in that thread commented that with systemless root he was able to successfully add cards and complete purchases with Android Pay, I may reconsider. Solid phone and a solid experience using it. Like you said, you have slightly larger hands, so you certainly will acclimate to the size of the phone in little to no time. I hope I could answer some of your questions about the device and alleviate some of your concerns! Let me know if you have any other questions!
tl;dr - Do it and welcome to the 6P forums.

It's OK to sit on the fence. Just make sure not to sit on the phone... It will bend.

6P imo is the best android phone you can buy right now, its a full package, much easier to hold than the N6 too

Jimmy_Noname said:
So, still rocking the nexus 5, but it's time to upgrade since the mic is giving out (my fault for being rough replacing the screen without a heat gun lol).
I know I want a nexus device but I'm not sure if I want to super-size my screen. I've never owned a "phablet", in fact I used to dislike them, but now that they're more common place I might reconsider. My hands are average if not on the larger side so I'm sure I'd get used to it, but do I want to? One handed use is nice when necessary, but is it ever absolutely necessary?
The beefier speakers, cpu, ram, battery, and screen (AMOLED) are all turn-on's. But I want to now how the transition was for all of you, be it to the nexus 6, Note, 6p, or whatever other device was your first big screen phone. Any regrets, big or small? Will you ever down size? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You'd be surprised how quickly you get used to it. I went from a smaller screen to the OnePlus One and it was a pretty big jump, but I was used to it within a few hours. Now I have the 6P. You won't want to go back to a smaller screen.
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Try it and probably never look back!

I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.

I came from an N5, had the same phablet reservations. But after seeing what Google did with the 5X, it wasn't quite what I was hoping it would be. I love the 6P!
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I had a Nexus 5X until my 6P came in. Trust me, it's night and day and although the size difference is VRY noticeable, it's not unbearable. You're getting a lot of phone for a rock bottom price. NOT saying the 5X was bad at all, actually quite different. I just wanted the extra screen real estate.
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Returned my 6p for a 5x and could not be happier. The 6p is a very big and long phone.
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Why does the V20 suck so badly?

Okay so i dont know if this should be posted here, so if it belongs elsewhere please feel free to move it mods. I tried to post in the "real life reviews" but couldnt find a spot to submit a new thread there.
I hate the v20. I've had it since October when i was forced to give up my Note. I wanted to trade it in for the S7 edge but that wasn't available, and i liked what i'd heard about the v20 so i went ahead and went for it. Me and my wife both upgrade at the same time so we both got the v20, after trading in the Notes.
At first it was fine enough. I did enjoy the cameras on the phone quite a bit. Amazing cameras. but then the glass shattered over the two lenses (without so much as a drop) and the exposures became terrible. So the camera was ruined for me. I could have mailed it away to LG but i dont have a second phone and i can't be without mine for 2 weeks while they do repairs so i just have to deal with it. The screen got small scratches on it over time, which really surprised me. I have never had a single device going all the way back to the G1 that has gotten scratched. I dont know if this phone uses gorilla glass or not, but thats another issue.
The battery life sucks. Most days by lunch time my phone is under 15 percent. I've done everything you can think of to solve the problem, but nothing works. New roms, battery savers, efficiency stuff..i've tried it all. It just sucks.
The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now. Long story short, i'm EXTREMELY tempted to get the new S8 plus but i'm gonna wait on the note because i really love that stylus...
Am i alone? does anyone else feel this way? I really hate it because i've never had an android phone i disliked. But i must regretfully admit, that this one sucks.
How do you feel?

First of all, you broke your phone and didn't fix it. Not wise. Second, use the phone for what it is designed around; swappable batteries. They last all day. You are apparently using apps that drain your battery. When that happens, you just pull off the back and swap with a fresh one. That alone sets this phone apart from the rest. Third, you should protect your screen with a tempered glass protector. 10 bucks can change your world. All of your problems are self inflicted it seems...that's what really sucks!

Yea, I'm gonna echo FreakyFrank.
It's not a huge battery given the size of the screen, so get a swapper. Especially given your load it's a wise idea.
Second, check the battery section under Settings and see where your battery is going to. Perhaps you need to remove an app or to that are abusing the juice.
Next, even if you rock case-free, you should still get a tempered glass screen protectors. There are good ones out there for well less than $10 (I got the Spigen and love it).
In short, the V20 sucks for you. Perhaps you've already optimized your phone and it's still not a good fit. That happens. Each phone is a set of trade-offs based on the purpose of that phone as determined by the manufacturer. Some of these make some phones not as optimal for a given person as it would be for others.

@thatisandwas
You couldn't find a temporary replacement phone to use if you'd sent your V20 away for repair? That strikes me as a poor excuse.
And a LG V20 Battery Charging KIT BCK-5200 doesn't cost a lot so thats your second gripe shot down. I bet if it was a non-removable battery you'd be wishing for the old days of removable batteries.
Over 6 months ownership of such a shi**y phone that has a "million other issues" and the only thing you've done is log in here to whinge about it.
Sell your V20, get another phone, and start formulating a rant about its faults 6 months down the line.... Happy days
Edit: you should change "the" to "my" in the thread title...

I'm really (not really) sorry to hear that V20 didn't work out for you quite well. So the morale of the story is
1. Fix your phone once it's broken.
2. always carry a spare phone just in case (at least, $100 cheap android phone)
3. never ever used a phone naked even if the phone is tough or rugged. put on a case and a tempered glass screen protector.
4. take advantage of the phone's main feature (in this case, removable battery).

LOL i +1 all of these posts.
In addition to the following:
-The camera lens replacement is already out there for sell . Ebay, amazon, you name it. And it doesnt cost practically a thing.
-How many user apps do you have? how many of them are constantly synchronizing? How long do you use your phone with heavy battery consuming apps such as ... Well. Facebook alone is a big consumer (it synchronizes a lot). I currently have 93 user apps. from which 28 of them are constantly synchronizing. Not to mention that i play fun run arena for an hour or 2 a day. and my battery last about 4 - 5 hours with screen on. or even up to almost 3 days with screen off and some of the app synchronizing.
But still, i think 6 month is really too late to be writing a thread like this lol!

LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?

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LOL I Should have expected these responses. The thing is, i shouldn't have to pay money to fix camera glass. I've never had a camera glass break on me, ever. I'm very careful with my devices. I've had dozens of android phones. Never had any of these issues with any of them. Its clearly a design flaw that the glass shatters and you guys are just like "but a new one" as if thats a perfectly acceptable solution. It shouldn't break in the first place. The battery management could be any number of things. I've tried nothing but stock apps. I've had android OS in battery usage exceed 100%. I've now installed a new rom and am getting better battery life, but it still isn't great. I don't want to carry spare batteries. I want my battery to last from 8-5 then i can charge it on the drive home enough to last until it gets to my bedside charger. I don't think thats a very huge ask. But it dies before lunch time most days.
You guys all make good points, and yes i could remedy some of these problems with the suggestions. But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?
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I think i stated on another thread that i was starting to think that it is just a percentage of v20 that has that defect. You know how many times i have dropped my phone or even threw it to the wall by accidrnt (sure it did have a poetic revolution cover) but still, the pressure should have broken the camera glass by now. Nevertheless, mine still intact. And i have 6 month already with the phone. Another thing i have done that i believe it may causes the glass to break out of nothing, is to be on really cold and hot weather. Yet... Thr glass still not broken. (between 24 F and 106 F temprtstures >> oklahoma lol)

"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?

rubiicon59 said:
"The phone has a million other issues but i won't get in to those now...." < world of difference > "But you have to admit the camera glass is piss poor design on LGs part. I mean come on? It just shatters with regular usage?"
You could be right about the lens debacle but your OP was a tad OTT don't ya think...?
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Yes it is over the top. I mean the thing is i have loved ALL my android phones. They all have a "soul" to them tha makes me like them for their own reasons. I can't put my finger on it exactly but it just feels like something is majorly lacking with the v20 compared to my others. I mean does no one agree with me at all on any of the points i made?

Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?

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Well I inferred understanding what you mean regarding the lens, lots of others have complained about if too.
But I stand by what I said in post #4.
So now I'm interested what you're going to do with your V20.... keep or ditch?
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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???

Yep I get your reasons... I think now we're on a similar page.
I've only had my V20 two days so I'm still exploring but so far I'm really pleased with it. Every phone manufactured has good and bad points so I try to take each one on its own merits and flaws rather than making comparisons. More so this time with switching manufacturers.
I've only had one LG in the past, the KF750 Secret, and I really liked that. But there will be no Note for me.
Anyway good luck with your V20, and your next phone too.
And get that lens fixed man

I love my v20. Last phone made with sensibility in mind. Removable battery, IR blaster, and SD slot. Only thing lacking is water resistance, but there are solutions for that. Plus I have 100+ apps installed and mine still lasts all day and then some.
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Not exactly on topic (I guess) but as someone who is fully committed and stoked about the V20, I stopped and checked out the S8 the other day. I will say it looks really awesome. Samsung did a fantastic​job with the display.
But it still stands, like others say. The V20 is probably the last phone you can get with such a great feature set. I don't want to buy a new phone every year, other year, week, whatever. I want a phone that will last. Removable battery plus an LCD (not AMOLED) will truly last.

As a iphone user with the 7 Plus being my last and trying out the V20 it does kinda suck. battery life is pretty terrible for a newer model phone, I wanted to give android another shot but it still is not as polished as IOS is.

Sounds to me like you didn't do your research before buying the V20.
LG's V series of phones are meant to be the last of the "oldschool" style cellphones with expandable storage AND a removable battery with Phillips head screw construction. The idea is that when your battery dies, as others have stated, you pop off the back cover and pop a new battery in. Speaking of which, the other users are definitely right about having too many apps running. I have unlocked my bootloader and installed LineageOS (stock android), which could be a factor in my better battery life, and usually get close to 48 hours of moderate to heavy usage per charge. Battery aside, if something breaks, you simply buy the spare part online and replace it yourself. The replacement camera glass is only around $25 and takes about 10 minutes to swap.
I definitely do agree with you that the camera glass is a bit fragile, however, I doubt it broke from just the softness of your touch. If you dropped your phone even just once, it may have broken then, which is a bit ridiculous being that it's the camera glass...But if you had gotten the S7 Edge and dropped it once, there's a very, very good chance the the entirety of your front or back glass would have shattered (or both - the whole phone is glass) so you really should not be complaining about this.
But all comments aside, definitely go with the upcoming Note if you have the dough and are unsatisfied with the V20. I'd love to grab the new Note but I'm just a broke college student (hence why I got the V20. Cheap repairs =P ).
Anyway, best of luck phone hunting in the future!

I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.

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I'm gonna keep it for the time being. I don't hate it so much that i'm willing to spend more to get the s8 plus. But i will more than likely replace it when the note 8 rolls around....after waiting for 30 days after launch, for obvious reasons I can only imagine a large number of people came to v20 after giving up their note 7. I wonder how many of us will end up going to the note 8???
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The V20 is a powerhouse and can hold its own against the rest. No phone will be perfect and its all about preference. However, I too gave up my Note 7 for the V20. I will be definitely going back to the Note series.

thatisandwas said:
I appreciate all the responses. I did definitely do a lot of research before buying the v20. Getting the sweet ear buds for free that i'm using as i type this was a big reason why i got it. I agree that it is good in its own merits, such as expandable storage/removable battery. I won't settle on the camera glass though, that's BS on LG's part and the fact that they still haven't acknowledged in publicly as a defect is disappointing to me. I've used LineageOS for a few weeks, and frankly i'm AMAZED if you're actually getting upwards of 48 hours use. Thats insane. I'm super lucky if i get til 5 with any juice left.
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You must have the screen on and be using the phone most if not the whole 5 hours.
Plug it in. If you don't have ac\dc available - get a nice power bank.
The camera glass is only $6.69 on eBay with the adhesive part and the glass.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/282431684616

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G Stylus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G Stylus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

About a year ago my father gave me a used Moto 4. I used it as a back up phone. He had loaded it up with all kinds of Play Store apps, so it was like it had a virus. He went back to a new iphone. I warned him to tell me what he was going to buy, but he didn't listen. Not a bad phone but he messed it up.
I did a factory reset and a minimal setup. Quite snappy for a cheap phone! I was impressed. So I decided the next phone I would buy would be unbranded. I had a note 4 once and really liked the stylus, so that is part of why I bought this phone.
I am quite pleased with the performance, the feel, the battery, the amount of memory (I put a 128G card in it and loaded it up with music) and the stylus. I use the stylus for navigation and it is very good for that. Not a rubber tip stylus. Very accurate with a light touch. And no finger prints!

Im not happy with mine. No stock recovery, TWRP not available, loaded with bloat including 3 different facebook apps (including one called facebook app loader) no thank you!

Plenty of power, decent camera, runs and runs

I'm loving this phone. Had it for a little less then a month and I'm loving everything about it so far. I even feel like a teen again, relearning everything Android trying to root/flash roms and stuff. Something I couldn't do with the lg stylo series since lg started denying unlocking the bootloader with the 4 onwards

DMedina559 said:
I'm loving this phone. Had it for a little less then a month and I'm loving everything about it so far. I even feel like a teen again, relearning everything Android trying to root/flash roms and stuff. Something I couldn't do with the lg stylo series since lg started denying unlocking the bootloader with the 4 onwards
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I know what you mean, I was skipping down the street and someone tried to hit me with an old Chevy Chevelle.
I feel like a teen every time my local lawyer brigade release a county ordinance manual, only a teen with a headache, aching back, and a need for some pain killers.
I'm going to be honest with you, I hate the fact that I almost broke my finger nail trying to get the stylus out. I really wished they would have made it a spring lock so you just push it to pop it out.

roadrun777 said:
I know what you mean, I was skipping down the street and someone tried to hit me with an old Chevy Chevelle.
I feel like a teen every time my local lawyer brigade release a county ordinance manual, only a teen with a headache, aching back, and a need for some pain killers.
I'm going to be honest with you, I hate the fact that I almost broke my finger nail trying to get the stylus out. I really wished they would have made it a spring lock so you just push it to pop it out.
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Yes the stylus and stylus features need some work. They should take note from LG and Samsung. Specifically having the stylus apps hover over other apps and being able to change the transparency of them

Hahahaha!

Loved this phone on paper, hate it in real life. This thing can't stay connected to any kind of data whatsoever. 2 months in and I've yet to complete a call without it dropping signal, wifi is just as bad. Already had it replaced once. Replacement is just as bad. Girlfriend has one also. Hers is even worse than mine. As much as I wanted to like this phone it is by far the single worst pile of s**t Android I've ever owned. And 48mp is some bs as well. No love here.... Case in point this is now my third attempt to post this