UK Essential Owners? - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Has anyone else from the UK like me who has imported the PH-1?

I'm waiting for official release,just can't get an answer when it will be

As far as I'm concerned, and only my opinion if course.
It does not deserve the bad reviews. For sure it wasn't great when first released, but after a few updates, it's improved a lot. Even the camera has improved.
Most people who have seen me using it, comment on how good it looks, and want to know who makes it.
The SOT is great, I've been regularly getting 6 hours +.
Have you tried ordering from Amazon Prime?

If anyone is interested I am selling one on Gumtree along with 360 camera...getting a new phone from work and I just received it direct from Essential right before my departure to UK. I'm here in Manchester til Oct 3 so if anyone wants to get their hands on an exclusive ...DM me.
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johnny8910 said:
As far as I'm concerned, and only my opinion if course.
It does not deserve the bad reviews. For sure it wasn't great when first released, but after a few updates, it's improved a lot. Even the camera has improved.
Most people who have seen me using it, comment on how good it looks, and want to know who makes it.
The SOT is great, I've been regularly getting 6 hours +.
Have you tried ordering from Amazon Prime?
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Mind answering how much you paid after taxes etc to get it?

Please DM me if interested in purchasing. It's a thing of beauty ..just don't need it with work providing me with possibly a V30

DaveHTC200 said:
Mind answering how much you paid after taxes etc to get it?
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It came in at around 880 dollars.

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Just got Oneplus 64gb invite....

Hey all....
Much to my surprise, I woke up this morning with an invitation to buy the 64GB Oneplus One. I went ahead and made the purchase. Whether I keep it, sell it or use it....no clue.
The G3 was my response to not being able to get the OPO invite. However, after having the G3, I have grown quite fond of it. I have concerns about the customization level even with xposed running. Customizing is important to me. Storage is whatever, not a huge deal. Photographs and videos are a mid priority on my list.
Anyways - anyone here have a chance to play with both? Which did you prefer? I have 1 week to return my G3 before I'm stuck to it. I will most likely return the G3 if the OPO doesn't arrive fast enough to be on the safe side. I'll deal with the return fee.
If anyone has any experience or thoughts on it please share. I read some other threads which were less constructive and more just bickering.
Thanks everyone.
tehpud said:
Hey all....
Much to my surprise, I woke up this morning with an invitation to buy the 64GB Oneplus One. I went ahead and made the purchase. Whether I keep it, sell it or use it....no clue.
The G3 was my response to not being able to get the OPO invite. However, after having the G3, I have grown quite fond of it. I have concerns about the customization level even with xposed running. Customizing is important to me. Storage is whatever, not a huge deal. Photographs and videos are a mid priority on my list.
Anyways - anyone here have a chance to play with both? Which did you prefer? I have 1 week to return my G3 before I'm stuck to it. I will most likely return the G3 if the OPO doesn't arrive fast enough to be on the safe side. I'll deal with the return fee.
If anyone has any experience or thoughts on it please share. I read some other threads which were less constructive and more just bickering.
Thanks everyone.
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i gave away my invite..the g3 is far superior than the opo
I just got an invite also and I also bought it. Main reason is because Franco is developing kernels for it, and it being fully unlocked. I like the g3 but the software is pissing me off
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I just got an invite also and I also bought it. Main reason is because Franco is developing kernels for it, and it being fully unlocked. I like the g3 but the software is pissing me off
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From a hardware perspective I am quite happy with the g3. That being said...I am Stoll yearning for more customization. The software has been frustrating me as well.
One question I need to answer is if the cost is worth it. 350 is an awesome price.
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i gave away my invite..the g3 is far superior than the opo
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Gave mine away also...dont want to have to deal with that company.
And no doubt G3 is better...
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I got the invite too, G3 is leagues ahead
Even if the devices were similar, I'm so annoyed with OP's business practices that I don't want to support them anyway.
How is the software frustrating? If you download Chrome, Hangouts, Google Camera, and install the Google Now launcher and dialer, you pretty much have a stock experience. Hell you could even get rid of the lock screen and use a replacement to get a more stock feel. Xposed modules will let you customize almost anything Cyanogenmod can.
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How is the software frustrating? If you download Chrome, Hangouts, Google Camera, and install the Google Now launcher and dialer, you pretty much have a stock experience. Hell you could even get rid of the lock screen and use a replacement to get a more stock feel. Xposed modules will let you customize almost anything Cyanogenmod can.
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this is a good post. after all is said and done, they will be quite similar with what is installed. for me, i like to tinker with ROMs and building environments (i'm a ux/ui designer) to play with.
bloatware can be removed so i'm not worried about that. at this stage it is mostly a matter of time. I already ordered it and will just turn around and sell it and keep the G3 or switch to it. I haven't put my G3 down since I got it. Truly an awesome phone.
I may have ordered it because i had waited 4 months for the invitation. Finally comes after I already getting into a committed relationship with the G3. LOL.
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Hey all....
Much to my surprise, I woke up this morning with an invitation to buy the 64GB Oneplus One. I went ahead and made the purchase. Whether I keep it, sell it or use it....no clue.
The G3 was my response to not being able to get the OPO invite. However, after having the G3, I have grown quite fond of it. I have concerns about the customization level even with xposed running. Customizing is important to me. Storage is whatever, not a huge deal. Photographs and videos are a mid priority on my list.
Anyways - anyone here have a chance to play with both? Which did you prefer? I have 1 week to return my G3 before I'm stuck to it. I will most likely return the G3 if the OPO doesn't arrive fast enough to be on the safe side. I'll deal with the return fee.
If anyone has any experience or thoughts on it please share. I read some other threads which were less constructive and more just bickering.
Thanks everyone.
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Gave my invite away. G3 is leagues ahead, and I am rather fond of LG. The One Plus is a good phone for the price, and the software is top notch. (I have the One Plus ROM installed on my G2. Same hardware I believe) I just believe the G3 is superior in terms of everyday usage. My two cents.
How do you guys get invite to OPO? Should I just register on web site?
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Gave my invite away. G3 is leagues ahead, and I am rather fond of LG. The One Plus is a good phone for the price, and the software is top notch. (I have the One Plus ROM installed on my G2. Same hardware I believe) I just believe the G3 is superior in terms of everyday usage. My two cents.
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I am seeing a consistent trend in this direction. The every day user seems to prefer the G3 while others justify the OPO due to cost, faster updates (assumed by the claimer), and better battery life.
Once I get it in my hands - I will know quickly which I prefer. I just hope we get an unlocked bootloader on the G3. Doesn't have to be right away but soon!
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I am seeing a consistent trend in this direction. The every day user seems to prefer the G3 while others justify the OPO due to cost, faster updates (assumed by the claimer), and better battery life.
Once I get it in my hands - I will know quickly which I prefer. I just hope we get an unlocked bootloader on the G3. Doesn't have to be right away but soon!
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In no way am I bashing the One Plus, I rather like the price for the specs inside. Applauded Google for bringing the Nexus line into fruition, and pushing manufacturers to not screw over the average consumer with mediocre specs for a lot of money. I just am not seeing the justification of a smartphone of that price, when build quality, screen material, and overall spec wise, the G3 beats it (for not a lot more money, I might add)
Another reason I shied away from the One Plus, is the shady dealings of both the manufacturer, and how CM royally screwed over a large contributor base. Again, a great phone, but with shady dealings and practices involved I can see no reason to jump ship to that.
Why would anyone even compare the one plus and g3? It's not even close. People want the one plus because its hard to get.....period.
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I have both phones. In my opinion, the G3 is far superior than the Oneplus One in every way hardware wise. The G3 is thinner, smaller, has a better camera, and the screen is gorgeous (everyone has their own opinions). The only thing I like about the Oneplus is cyanogenmod's theme chooser, other than that I'm more than happy with the G3.
Plus, I'm sure cyanogenmod will make it's way to the G3 sooner or later since our T-Mobile G3s are bootloader unlocked.
Edit: Oh, just wanted to point out that the sandstone back of the Oneplus is AMAZING! It feels much better in hand than the G3, but it is also wider and taller which is a no-no.
Sell the OPO for like 100 more than you paid for.
Can't go wrong with either really, as long as you can get an invite for the OPO. They're picking up the pace with those though and you should be able to purchase it outright by the end of Q3 (August)
If any of you have spare invites I still haven't gotten one yet and I'd love one for tinkering. The random invite system is dumb. I was one of their earliest supporters but I didn't create a forum account for a while so I got burned.
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If any of you have spare invites I still haven't gotten one yet and I'd love one for tinkering. The random invite system is dumb. I was one of their earliest supporters but I didn't create a forum account for a while so I got burned.
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+1!!!!!
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I have both phones, and to be honest, they don't really feel like competitors. The G3 is polished, slim, and solidly built, but is heavily restricted with its locked bootloader. The OPO is a flashaholic's dream, but the hardware isn't as nice. Mine has the slight yellow band at the bottom of the screen, too. The OPO feels much faster, but not overwhelmingly.

Just got the Gear VR!

Just bought the Samsung Gear VR from Best Buy....it is freaking awesome. ..I highly recommend anyone with a note 4 to buy it. ..you won't be disappointed!
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Do what with it?
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Just bought the Samsung Gear VR from Best Buy....it is freaking awesome. ..I highly recommend anyone with a note 4 to buy it. ..you won't be disappointed!
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Can you give us a detailed review?
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Can you give us a detailed review?
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Yes that would be very helpful.
hobby31 said:
Just bought the Samsung Gear VR from Best Buy....it is freaking awesome. ..I highly recommend anyone with a note 4 to buy it. ..you won't be disappointed!
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Were you able to find it in a store or did you order it?
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I've been thinking of getting one, if only for the pr0n.
I ordered mine already, should be here Monday. I can't wait.
The Gear VR is an exelent add on the N4, still in early apps development stages but the potentials are limitless. You'll be able to experience movie theater sound and vision like never before right in your leaving room, watch movies in Hi Def and 3D with the Gear VR, stream any type of contents. Contents are added almost in the daily basis. Takes gaming to a whole new level with gamepad or the touch sensible pad. Like I said, anybody getting a Gear VR device is considered early adopters for whom gets it now but when contents get released, this device will be a must own for GN4 users.
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Were you able to find it in a store or did you order it?
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Sorry, ordered it from best buy and choose next day shipping. It is awesome. I watched a movie today with the Oculus cinema and it is really almost like you're in a movie theater watching a huge screen. That in itself was worth the money I spent. The virtual oceans are awesome. I've downloaded pretty much everything in the store. The content is a little lacking right now but they promise more to come. It's all free right now. If your on the fence just do it. ..you won't regret it.
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+1 :good: pretty damn awesome. got the vr like 3 weeks ago and i've shown it to all my coworkers and many of my friends (15+people who were mostly some what skeptical), and pretty much everyone was mind-blown :laugh:
definitely recommend it for anyone with N4. it's a guaranteed new experience that you and your family/friends will enjoy
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+1 :good: pretty damn awesome. got the vr like 3 weeks ago and i've shown it to all my coworkers and many of my friends (15+people who were mostly some what skeptical), and pretty much everyone was mind-blown :laugh:
definitely recommend it for anyone with N4. it's a guaranteed new experience that you and your family/friends will enjoy
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A major DITTO here. It is awesome fun.
Some one please post the benchmark result
Unless you have tired the Gearvr you really cant explain how cool it is.
The virtualrealporn.com demo videos are the best demonstration of how immersive it is.
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Unless you have tired the Gearvr you really cant explain how cool it is.
The virtualrealporn.com demo videos are the best demonstration of how immersive it is.
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Now only if we could see our hands and move in the virtual space
I have been watching the VR market and this is very interesting.
My main concern is how well will the VR headset be supported when the Note 5 comes out? Dropping $200 on a headset which is only supported by one device seems a tad crazy.
Granted, the technology is very cool and I have yet to own one.
so so
Pixley and overheats alot, u have to clean the lens all the time and it fogs up easily as well. the downsides to it... The upside is that u can swim with sharks, and the horror game feels so real i dont dare to play it, tried 3 times
does netflix work with it
I've done a little research on Gear VR vs. Cardboard and pretty much everyone says that Gear VR is a far superior device, but there isn't much substance behind those opinions. Obviously Gear VR is more comfortable and has much better lenses that provide a better "field of view". Besides these things, is it really a "night and day" experience? I've been impressed with Cardboard but I mostly bought it because it's a cheap way to see what all the VR fuss is about. I realize that VR is a rapidly advancing technology and there might soon be devices that support eye tracking drool: ) and other cool features, so I'm on the fence. Should I pay the $200 (which seems steep to me) or hold out for better options to come in the next year or so?
I'm hoping that Best Buy will have a demo unit for the in-store release this Sunday. That might help me decide.
Definitely worth the $200. Even with the small amount of content available, the experience is worth it. Best buy has a 14 day return policy so you can always bring it back.
Got mine this week, resolution is a little rough, (about 720 I'd guess) there's significant screendoor effect, and it overheats.
All that out of the way, it's pretty damn good, I'd honestly love to trash it, am no fan of Samsung, but it's neat as hell. (GF is Korean, so I'm obligated to keep her happy with Korean products, Samsung in particular, LOL) Anyway, got her a Note 4 a month or so ago, got a Gear VR this week, and I'm pretty well blown away.
Highly recommended if you already own a Note 4.

Opinions about leeco

Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol
Currently, the bootloader of the US version of the Pro3 cannot be unlocked. There is a lot of negative comments about that on the forum. [http://forum.le.com/us/index.php?threads/unlock-bootloader.3682/
There is a positive first impressions post on the LeEco Pro3 XDA site. I'm conflicted - getting my phone tomorrow.
I have Le 1 PRO, to be honest it is a gamble. The devices are good but the support is terrible. If someone is not porting AOSP/CM to these devices they will have a very short life.
Le 1 series suffered some major faulty design problems in term of GPS/Wifi and so on. We moved to 6.0.1 only when series 2 came out.
Probably Le 3 series will receive n7.1.1 only after Le 4 series (if any) will be announced/sold, in the meantime you will have countless of useless update (clearly not on the camera since it will be too good).
I've seen some work on Le 2 series, hopefully there will be even more on Le 3 series.
As of now i'm not 100% regretting my choice (270 euros 1.5 years ago for Le 1 Pro) but it is literally a for-geek phone.
If you just want a top-spec phone to use at a great price the le pro 3 fits the bill.
If you want to tinker, probably any other unlocked phone will work better unless they decide to unlock the bootloader.
I've got no regrets so far for $299 us
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Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol
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If you get bored, but then also want the option of cm, I'm not sure how getting a new device will help you. You can have CM or miui now. And CM isn't exactly a grand departure from AOSP/CAF. It's relatively barebones android. Most phones these days are almost identical slabs. If you're gonna use the same OS as you had before, all you're really changing is the shape. Also, the Nexus is going to be your best bet for tinkering. Nexus or Pixel.
As for support, from what I understand LeEco isn't great when it comes to that. Whatever fashion you receive your device in, expect it to change VERY little. It also doesn't help that reports are popping up that the north american venture is coming up very short. Makes me believe they'll be pulling up stakes and going back to China. With the Pro3 currently locked, I'd say avoid it. If you want a toy phone to tinker with, the S3 might be a better choice. It's cheaper, already unlockable (or so people are reporting, I don't actually know myself), and if it receives any development, then it should be interesting. If you get it for $150, it isn't too much of a gamble.
If I were in your position, I'd steer clear. Especially if you were in the US on T-Mobile and can qualify for a Pixel half off through their promotion. At least that way you'll get wifi calling and some top-notch cameras. Either that or an Oppo. Since you're in europe, I don't know what the alternatives are. At least the chinese version is unlockable (the x720) but there's still the matter of development. And I think that'll be unlikely since CM development usually comes to US models.
I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
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I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69507812&postcount=20
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That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.
Veidas said:
That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.
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Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.
Ask directly there to him, im just reporting what i read.
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Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.
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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.
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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.
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How is the camera? After 6p im quite spoiled lol. I understand that in bad lightning its complete crap, but how about daylight photos?
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How is the camera?
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Pretty crap.
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Pretty crap.
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Yeah, not as good as a 6P for sure. It's like most cheaper cameras... Still great in bright light. Indoors not great. Low light, pretty bad. I've seen worse on more expensive phones though. It's better than my X Pure's camera.
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This phone is great. So far so good. Coming from a GS5
Well like everyone else have said so far, the x727 can't be unlocked.
the x720 is quite another story, im sitting with TWRP, rooted and with xposed along with all the other great stuff.
The phone is outstanding quality, full metal unibody and all that jazz.
The Camera is uhm there? but it's overall not the best performer, you can take some nice shots in daylight but that's about it.
i installed a custom version of EUI to remove the bloatware, and i'm currently rocking the leaked pixel launcher on top, so far so good.
The only other rom for this phone is MIUI, which is having some issues (atleast for me) with 4g LTE, it just locks itself onto 3g and HSPA+
My dream is a CM based rom sometime in the near future.
Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput
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Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput
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Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?
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Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?
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http://s.aliexpress.com/I3myqEjU
Vat and tax offer applies to europe and russia only i think

Why Is Development Lacking?

This is only a question and dicussion I want to bring up, this is not about anything else, and truly not about disrespecting anyone, but just asking why is development slow... Please don't be offended, it was not my intentions by asking these things, just trying to figure why a nice phone doesn't have more people working on it is all..
I have my own ideas, maybe these are the reasons.
1. Smaller Company - but the Geeks know who Andy Rubin is
2. See number 1, with Andy Rubin at the wheel, where are the Android enthusiasts supporting the project?
3. Ok company has had a bad start, lots of bad reviews, mostly over the camera
So a smaller company, and the newbie phone users are all chasing after the bigger well known names, but again, what's happening here with the Android Geeks?
Anyhow, small company, bad reviews, started out costly, now prices are down. So where's the Android love for one of the Founders?
Agreed. But I guess we have 2 more years (till 2020, I guess) of support from essential side. I own Xiaomi Mi5 and Essential Ph1. Quite a lot of difference in development. SD820 has started to show signs of aging and 3GB ram is not holding up well. Will hold on to Essential for next few years. Hope development kicks in. Although happy with stock rom and android p beta program.
Not a bad phone at all. for 500 dollars. Not much into camera. Overall a great phone. Dunno why there was so much negativity around this phone.
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@Rahat34, I sometimes wonder if there was just a lot of propaganda posting going on against the Essential. It was strange all the negativity as you mention, and to be honest, we all know all phones out there get their share of it, but for some reason, I really wondered when it came to this phone, now this was all without even owning this phone, I just thought it was odd. By the way, they just went on sale for half off, I ordered a few at $249USD...
But looks like the sale is over.
@Tech_Savvy, so is there any work going on with TWRP at the moment, that there should be something working soon?
As far as ROMS are concerned, there's a lot of Android users in the world, so saying how many we need, well, that's anyone's guess.
The AospExtended, this is a really nice ROM I'd like to see for the Essential.
Also if my eyes are seeing correct, I didn't notice Franco or Void with Kernels for the phone.
Then there's microG, any ROMs supporting it good?
I wonder, if Xposed is working good on Esssential with Oreo, stock or custom?
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@Rahat34, I sometimes wonder if there was just a lot of propaganda posting going on against the Essential. It was strange all the negativity as you mention, and to be honest, we all know all phones out there get their share of it, but for some reason, I really wondered when it came to this phone, now this was all without even owning this phone, I just thought it was odd. By the way, they just went on sale for half off, I ordered a few at $249USD...
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Even for $500, gettiing a SD835, unlockable bootloader, titanium-ceramic build,a nice lcd panel (and what not) was a steal. $250, its nuts . Here, we get 625 schip at this much price and crappy glassy phones.
Must have been some sort of propaganda/conspiracy. Every phone has drawbacks, But boy every youtube review was bashing this phone.
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Even for $500, gettiing a SD835, unlockable bootloader, titanium-ceramic build,a nice lcd panel (and what not) was a steal. $250, its nuts . Here, we get 625 schip at this much price and crappy glassy phones.
Must have been some sort of propaganda/conspiracy. Every phone has drawbacks, But boy every youtube review was bashing this phone.
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Yes it's a low price I paid...
Depends what you're after really. If you want a few solid roms, or a hundred half baked bug ridden roms. I've done the "huge" forums before where I had to wade through twenty roms in order to find one that functioned decently. I'm past my days of needing to flash a new rom on a daily basis though. Work and kids keep me from having the time to do that anymore even if I wanted to.
I"ll take a solid dependable phone with support from the manufacturer any day.
I'll add as well, there are quite a few roms that are simply not posted on these forums (validus, gzosp, etc).
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I'll add as well, there are quite a few roms that are simply not posted on these forums (validus, gzosp, etc).
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Ive heard to go to discord but ive found nothing. Where should i go to find them?
Sure no one wants half baked, but there should be twice the amount of development going on that is at present.
Anyhow, I would hope that everyone agrees there is not a lot of development going on.
So, what do people think on this forum about an email drafted up, and the Modding Community reaching out to Essential, in hopes of building up it's modding development?
just got the phone from prime day sale plus extra $100 off from AMEX, paid around $170 total. I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality, it makes my LG V30 feels like a toy. Reception problem with AT&T is real though I would actually see zero reception driving around my neighborhood in upstate NY which never happens in any other phones I have.
oceansoul said:
just got the phone from prime day sale plus extra $100 off from AMEX, paid around $170 total. I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality, it makes my LG V30 feels like a toy. Reception problem with AT&T is real though I would actually see zero reception driving around my neighborhood in upstate NY which never happens in any other phones I have.
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@oceansoul, sorry, not sure what you mean by your post for development?
Thanks
you asked for why there is so little development for the phone, maybe because of the reception issue, not many people are using it? at the same spot I am getting -112dBm for PH-1 and -83dBm for Lg V30 on ATT LTE band 2
It really doesn't sound like you'll be happy with this phone, I'm sure someone will take it off your hands.
oceansoul said:
toxic much? you asked for why there is so little development for the phone, maybe because of the reception issue, not many people are using it? at the same spot I am getting -112dBm for PH-1 and -83dBm for Lg V30 on ATT LTE band 2
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toxic much, what does that mean?

To buy, or not to buy?

Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.
Aimless Rambler said:
First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.
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Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)
adam_s_459_ said:
Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)
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It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery
rignfool said:
It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery
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I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.
mruno said:
I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.
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Theses are good points, I'll definitely look into it I never thought about the release cycle of the pixel 4
Thanks!
adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.
Aimless Rambler said:
It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.
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I would keep the device for 2 years but I'm looking for the most value for my $300 (CAD) and a device which I won't have issues with . RN I'm torn between the pixel 3a (if the price drops) and Galaxy a50. Either way I'll be happy so I'll just have to see which is cheaper at the time. Thanks!

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