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Time to Upgrade...

Well, about that time again. Had my ATT S4 for a year, and I had good and bad to say about it..
Hated not being able to get a bootloader unlock for it, being stuck on Touchwiz for a very long time gets irritating..
I have had a long list of phones since android came to fruition. I started with the G1 and never looked back. Hated apple and all they stood for and never wanted an iPhone, like most of us.
But its time for an upgrade and unfortunately AT&T doesn't have much to offer at this point in time. Just about the only phone worth getting with android has to be this phone right here, the G3. Ive never owned a LG phone, stuck with HTC until they burned the bridge, had the S4, and now I'm here.
My question, I suppose, is should I just get another android.. or maybe try that iPhone that everyone and their cousin has? I can't imagine going from android to Crapple.. but maybe it's a good change for a year? I hear mixed reviews about the LG OS, and it doesn't look too too unflattering. But it doesn't make me excited to get the phone, even with the fantastic hardware.
Can anyone here who has had the phone long enough to actually get used to daily life with it keep me grounded in the world of Android?
How is the battery life with the 3000mAh battery? How does the phone respond with the LG OS? How does the camera fare?
Irk.. I so don't want an iPhone but I don't want to be stuck in the same position I was with the S4, on a crap OS with nowhere to go, frustrated with myself for getting what I thought was a fantastic phone. I just want to be happy with my next phone. Cause Samsung effed that one up my last go round.
Cheers....
Matt

You're asking a bunch of questions that can all be answered with the many, many threads around here and by doing your own research.

I guess I'm just looking for one answer:
Do you think you'd be happier with another flagship device?
I'm reading through all the threads, but it's the usual, bickering and sifting through it all for one or two good posts..

shook187 said:
You're asking a bunch of questions that can all be answered with the many, many threads around here and by doing your own research.
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Instead of crying answer his questions. He obviously did some research.
Anyways @OP
The phone is pretty good. The battery life will be better than the s4. The performance will be much better than the s4. The design is awesome.
The LG UI is very nice. Its simple and erogomic and does not look childish. It is also more functional with allot let bloat and gimmics. The phone feels really nice. The display is beyond sharp. Impossible to spot a pixel. The brightness is very good and the best part is that you get a 5.5 inch screen in a phone sized simarly to the S4. Its awesome. I had samsung for 4 years, will never look back. Its a nice new experience. Plus you get 3gb ram and 32gb storage standard. [emoji41]

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Instead of crying answer his questions. He obviously did some research.
Anyways @OP
The phone is pretty good. The battery life will be better than the s4. The performance will be much better than the s4. The design is awesome.
The LG UI is very nice. Its simple and erogomic and does not look childish. It is also more functional with allot let bloat and gimmics. The phone feels really nice. The display is beyond sharp. Impossible to spot a pixel. The brightness is very good and the best part is that you get a 5.5 inch screen in a phone sized simarly to the S4. Its awesome. I had samsung for 4 years, will never look back. Its a nice new experience. Plus you get 3gb ram and 32gb storage standard. [emoji41]
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Thank you for your response. I'm leaning toward the G3. Might hold my tongue for a week or two, so if I like it I can keep it, or return it in time to get the new iPhone on September 9th..
Or I might love the phone. Hoping I do. :good:

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Well, about that time again. Had my ATT S4 for a year, and I had good and bad to say about it..
Hated not being able to get a bootloader unlock for it, being stuck on Touchwiz for a very long time gets irritating..
I have had a long list of phones since android came to fruition. I started with the G1 and never looked back. Hated apple and all they stood for and never wanted an iPhone, like most of us.
But its time for an upgrade and unfortunately AT&T doesn't have much to offer at this point in time. Just about the only phone worth getting with android has to be this phone right here, the G3. Ive never owned a LG phone, stuck with HTC until they burned the bridge, had the S4, and now I'm here.
My question, I suppose, is should I just get another android.. or maybe try that iPhone that everyone and their cousin has? I can't imagine going from android to Crapple.. but maybe it's a good change for a year? I hear mixed reviews about the LG OS, and it doesn't look too too unflattering. But it doesn't make me excited to get the phone, even with the fantastic hardware.
Can anyone here who has had the phone long enough to actually get used to daily life with it keep me grounded in the world of Android?
How is the battery life with the 3000mAh battery? How does the phone respond with the LG OS? How does the camera fare?
Irk.. I so don't want an iPhone but I don't want to be stuck in the same position I was with the S4, on a crap OS with nowhere to go, frustrated with myself for getting what I thought was a fantastic phone. I just want to be happy with my next phone. Cause Samsung effed that one up my last go round.
Cheers....
Matt
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I personally love it. I too came from the S4 to the G3. The battery life is beyond anything I could of imagined (given I am rooted and have made cpu tweaks and removed AT&T bloat along with lg apps I'd never use). Bootloader unlock for this phone is looking very promising so hopefully that'll come soon (although an exploit has been shown that could possibly work on the S4 so I'd keep that one around for awhile longer if I were you). I didn't like the LG launcher at all so I switched to nova but then again I always use nova even if I'm on CM or AOKP. I made the switch to this phone purely for the specs not expecting to like the large size or anything else about it that much but I do love it. It won me over. Build quality, camera, screen res, battery life, again didn't expect to like it anywhere near as much as I do. I'd even go as far as saying I don't need bootloader unlock as I'm getting so much of what I want and need with stock firmware. One last word; don't switch to iphone. You won't like it, and you'll quickly notice its not even remotely capable of doing what you're used to easily doing on your android devices. For me iphones are nothing more than your pc desktop full of shortcut icons to apps that you feel are mostly useless. These are all my opinions of course and I don't treat them as facts nor do I expect anyone else to. And everyone's experience with their device is their own. Hope this helps you out on your decision.
Ps once Android L releases this phone is gonna be beyond what it is now and if/when we get bootloader unlock custom ROMs based off L are really gonna shine (especially CM).

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Thank you for your response. I'm leaning toward the G3. Might hold my tongue for a week or two, so if I like it I can keep it, or return it in time to get the new iPhone on September 9th..
Or I might love the phone. Hoping I do. :good:
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I think you will regret getting an iphone after having an Android phone. It will feel a bit locked down. Like someone put you in a cage.

drock212 said:
I personally love it. I too came from the S4 to the G3. The battery life is beyond anything I could of imagined (given I am rooted and have made cpu tweaks and removed AT&T bloat along with lg apps I'd never use). Bootloader unlock for this phone is looking very promising so hopefully that'll come soon (although an exploit has been shown that could possibly work on the S4 so I'd keep that one around for awhile longer if I were you). I didn't like the LG launcher at all so I switched to nova but then again I always use nova even if I'm on CM or AOKP. I made the switch to this phone purely for the specs not expecting to like the large size or anything else about it that much but I do love it. It won me over. Build quality, camera, screen res, battery life, again didn't expect to like it anywhere near as much as I do. I'd even go as far as saying I don't need bootloader unlock as I'm getting so much of what I want and need with stock firmware. One last word; don't switch to iphone. You won't like it, and you'll quickly notice its not even remotely capable of doing what you're used to easily doing on your android devices. For me iphones are nothing more than your pc desktop full of shortcut icons to apps that you feel are mostly useless. These are all my opinions of course and I don't treat them as facts nor do I expect anyone else to. And everyone's experience with their device is their own. Hope this helps you out on your decision.
Ps once Android L releases this phone is gonna be beyond what it is now and if/when we get bootloader unlock custom ROMs based off L are really gonna shine (especially CM).
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Ive got to say, this has been a helpful reply. And exactly where I am coming from. Thank you. Will be getting this phone tomorrow

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Ive got to say, this has been a helpful reply. And exactly where I am coming from. Thank you. Will be getting this phone tomorrow
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Glad I could help. I'm gonna see if this weekend I have some time to put a thread together listing everything I've modded to get the performance that I get as well as what I've don't to try and squeeze as much battery life as possible so definitely look for that.

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Glad I could help. I'm gonna see if this weekend I have some time to put a thread together listing everything I've modded to get the performance that I get as well as what I've don't to try and squeeze as much battery life as possible so definitely look for that.
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Will definitely look for that. My warranty exchange will be here Friday, and l am taking it straight to the Att store and getting the G3. CAN'T WAIT!!

@OP LG ui is defiantly way better than crap wiz (I have used S3), I am an G2 user & love it.

Farewell, LG.

Well y'all, it's been a long run with LG but I am jumping ship to the OnePlus One. I have no animosity, but just feel it is time for a change. I have used LG since the Optimus G (great phone, not so great battery), all the way up to the Optimus G Pro, the G2, the G Flex, and now the G3. I received an invite to get the OnePlus, and decided to go for it.
I'd like to thank all of the great developers working on the phone, especially @jcase, @autoprime, @thecubed, and the many others that tirelessly worked at getting root, and a bootloader bypass to this device. I am glad I got to be a part of this phones development journey from the start (first phone I bought on launch day). I am selling my G3 (on Swappa currently for 355. If you tell me you're from XDA, I'll cut you a deal), but I will be active here providing answers to questions I can! Thank you all again!

You just made my eyes teary...
Farewell brother !!
Hope that OnePlus One brings you more happines !!

TheAfroGuy said:
Well y'all, it's been a long run with LG but I am jumping ship to the OnePlus One. I have no animosity, but just feel it is time for a change. I have used LG since the Optimus G (great phone, not so great battery), all the way up to the Optimus G Pro, the G2, the G Flex, and now the G3. I received an invite to get the OnePlus, and decided to go for it.
I'd like to thank all of the great developers working on the phone, especially @jcase, @autoprime, @thecubed, and the many others that tirelessly worked at getting root, and a bootloader bypass to this device. I am glad I got to be a part of this phones development journey from the start (first phone I bought on launch day). I am selling my G3 (on Swappa currently for 355. If you tell me you're from XDA, I'll cut you a deal), but I will be active here providing answers to questions I can! Thank you all again!
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Appreciate the kind words.. and sorry to see you go. OPO is a great phone too though.. enjoy it

This is a farewell I actually like. Thanks for loving lg! But I agree, time for a chance

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I received an invite to get the OnePlus, and decided to go for it.
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It's OK, but can you post pros and cons of OPO compared to G3? Is OPO that much better overall, or you miss something of G3? Is OPO camera the same or better quality?
Not to start a flame wars but to get truly and unbiased comparison from one who have owned both devices

I had both for about three weeks and out of the box i preferred The OPO. Over The course of three weeks I started missing The G3 for certain things. Wireless charging, smaller footprint, sd card, having an extra battery for my Orlando days, the list goes on and on. The battery life of The OPO was badass, but some things didn't feel refined enough though. The OPO went to my brother in the end. If there was anything i miss more than anything about The OPO, it would be that sandstone back it had. It felt pretty amazing.
Sent from my LG-D851 using XDA Free mobile app

I'm keeping both devices. OnePlus One deal breaker... battery not removable, No expandable memory card slot. LG G3 deal breaker... locked bootloader. Can't get the best of both world eh?

Indeed a nice farewell. All the best with OPO.

Bye ,don't let the door hit you in the ... I'm joking ... :thumbup:
2SHAYNEZ

i have both and everytime i look at the two screens side by side i go nuts and throw away the OPO

Funny, I did the opposite. Sold my 1p1 and bought the G3.

hierarchy666 said:
I'm keeping both devices. OnePlus One deal breaker... battery not removable, No expandable memory card slot. LG G3 deal breaker... locked bootloader. Can't get the best of both world eh?
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Locked bootloader? [emoji780]
Sent from my Stump'd & Bump'd Sprint LG G3

hierarchy666 said:
I'm keeping both devices. OnePlus One deal breaker... battery not removable, No expandable memory card slot. LG G3 deal breaker... locked bootloader. Can't get the best of both world eh?
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Note 4?

hierarchy666 said:
I'm keeping both devices. OnePlus One deal breaker... battery not removable, No expandable memory card slot. LG G3 deal breaker... locked bootloader. Can't get the best of both world eh?
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Have you been living under a rock or are you just complaining that the bump website hasn't been put up that will allow developers to bump their ROMS and Kernels for use on the G3? If you haven't heard about bump, then a little reading is in your future, but the short story is that we now have the ability to flash whatever we want using the G3 bootloader via a method called "bump."

And here it starts it seems every one is leaving the g3 crap.

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And here it starts it seems every one is leaving the g3 crap.
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Not really, but thats a nice generalization to make just from one thread.

Vivasanti said:
Not really, but thats a nice generalization to make just from one thread.
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Its just not off one thread there are tons of people switching to other phones and a few devs. So yes i guess you know every thing i was reading and I guess I cant have my own opinion or state any thing on xda any more with a remark. All i was stating that is sucks devs and some user are switching.

sic0048 said:
Have you been living under a rock or are you just complaining that the bump website hasn't been put up that will allow developers to bump their ROMS and Kernels for use on the G3? If you haven't heard about bump, then a little reading is in your future, but the short story is that we now have the ability to flash whatever we want using the G3 bootloader via a method called "bump."
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I said im keeping both devices. I'm just laying out the differences in both devices i own which is a "FACT". For LG G3 our bootloader is locked. XDA devs did a amazing job in bypassing it. On the LG(Company) part they are not going to do anything to unlock our bootloader officially. I do know the method called "bump" by the way.
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Note 4?
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Nah, im not going to mess around with a device that comes with a KNOX in it.

TheAfroGuy said:
Well y'all, it's been a long run with LG but I am jumping ship to the OnePlus One. I have no animosity, but just feel it is time for a change. I have used LG since the Optimus G (great phone, not so great battery), all the way up to the Optimus G Pro, the G2, the G Flex, and now the G3. I received an invite to get the OnePlus, and decided to go for it.
I'd like to thank all of the great developers working on the phone, especially @jcase, @autoprime, @thecubed, and the many others that tirelessly worked at getting root, and a bootloader bypass to this device. I am glad I got to be a part of this phones development journey from the start (first phone I bought on launch day). I am selling my G3 (on Swappa currently for 355. If you tell me you're from XDA, I'll cut you a deal), but I will be active here providing answers to questions I can! Thank you all again!
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You know, I like my G3, but I got a OnePlus for my sweetie, and I really like it simplicity.. so I got one for myself to play with. Still using the G3 as my DD. I'm on the fence about switching, as they both have some interesting features. If I could 1080 the screen and all apps work/present well, I'd stay G3. The 4K is awesome, though.
Good luck.

Wow, that's a strong move. Although G3 is pretty much locked, 1p1 is too rough.. overall rubbish.
I'd suggest keeping both and then deciding if that's what you want.
But it's been a month now, eh.. guess it's too late

Opinions about leeco

Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol

Currently, the bootloader of the US version of the Pro3 cannot be unlocked. There is a lot of negative comments about that on the forum. [http://forum.le.com/us/index.php?threads/unlock-bootloader.3682/
There is a positive first impressions post on the LeEco Pro3 XDA site. I'm conflicted - getting my phone tomorrow.

I have Le 1 PRO, to be honest it is a gamble. The devices are good but the support is terrible. If someone is not porting AOSP/CM to these devices they will have a very short life.
Le 1 series suffered some major faulty design problems in term of GPS/Wifi and so on. We moved to 6.0.1 only when series 2 came out.
Probably Le 3 series will receive n7.1.1 only after Le 4 series (if any) will be announced/sold, in the meantime you will have countless of useless update (clearly not on the camera since it will be too good).
I've seen some work on Le 2 series, hopefully there will be even more on Le 3 series.
As of now i'm not 100% regretting my choice (270 euros 1.5 years ago for Le 1 Pro) but it is literally a for-geek phone.

If you just want a top-spec phone to use at a great price the le pro 3 fits the bill.
If you want to tinker, probably any other unlocked phone will work better unless they decide to unlock the bootloader.
I've got no regrets so far for $299 us

Veidas said:
Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol
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If you get bored, but then also want the option of cm, I'm not sure how getting a new device will help you. You can have CM or miui now. And CM isn't exactly a grand departure from AOSP/CAF. It's relatively barebones android. Most phones these days are almost identical slabs. If you're gonna use the same OS as you had before, all you're really changing is the shape. Also, the Nexus is going to be your best bet for tinkering. Nexus or Pixel.
As for support, from what I understand LeEco isn't great when it comes to that. Whatever fashion you receive your device in, expect it to change VERY little. It also doesn't help that reports are popping up that the north american venture is coming up very short. Makes me believe they'll be pulling up stakes and going back to China. With the Pro3 currently locked, I'd say avoid it. If you want a toy phone to tinker with, the S3 might be a better choice. It's cheaper, already unlockable (or so people are reporting, I don't actually know myself), and if it receives any development, then it should be interesting. If you get it for $150, it isn't too much of a gamble.
If I were in your position, I'd steer clear. Especially if you were in the US on T-Mobile and can qualify for a Pixel half off through their promotion. At least that way you'll get wifi calling and some top-notch cameras. Either that or an Oppo. Since you're in europe, I don't know what the alternatives are. At least the chinese version is unlockable (the x720) but there's still the matter of development. And I think that'll be unlikely since CM development usually comes to US models.

I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69507812&postcount=20

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I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
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That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.

Veidas said:
That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.
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Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.

Ask directly there to him, im just reporting what i read.

Peter-C said:
Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.
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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.

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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.
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How is the camera? After 6p im quite spoiled lol. I understand that in bad lightning its complete crap, but how about daylight photos?

Veidas said:
How is the camera?
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Pretty crap.

ericerk said:
Pretty crap.
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Yeah, not as good as a 6P for sure. It's like most cheaper cameras... Still great in bright light. Indoors not great. Low light, pretty bad. I've seen worse on more expensive phones though. It's better than my X Pure's camera.
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This phone is great. So far so good. Coming from a GS5

Well like everyone else have said so far, the x727 can't be unlocked.
the x720 is quite another story, im sitting with TWRP, rooted and with xposed along with all the other great stuff.
The phone is outstanding quality, full metal unibody and all that jazz.
The Camera is uhm there? but it's overall not the best performer, you can take some nice shots in daylight but that's about it.
i installed a custom version of EUI to remove the bloatware, and i'm currently rocking the leaked pixel launcher on top, so far so good.
The only other rom for this phone is MIUI, which is having some issues (atleast for me) with 4g LTE, it just locks itself onto 3g and HSPA+
My dream is a CM based rom sometime in the near future.

Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput

Veidas said:
Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput
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Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?

androFRUST said:
Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?
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http://s.aliexpress.com/I3myqEjU
Vat and tax offer applies to europe and russia only i think

Why Is Development Lacking?

This is only a question and dicussion I want to bring up, this is not about anything else, and truly not about disrespecting anyone, but just asking why is development slow... Please don't be offended, it was not my intentions by asking these things, just trying to figure why a nice phone doesn't have more people working on it is all..
I have my own ideas, maybe these are the reasons.
1. Smaller Company - but the Geeks know who Andy Rubin is
2. See number 1, with Andy Rubin at the wheel, where are the Android enthusiasts supporting the project?
3. Ok company has had a bad start, lots of bad reviews, mostly over the camera
So a smaller company, and the newbie phone users are all chasing after the bigger well known names, but again, what's happening here with the Android Geeks?
Anyhow, small company, bad reviews, started out costly, now prices are down. So where's the Android love for one of the Founders?

Agreed. But I guess we have 2 more years (till 2020, I guess) of support from essential side. I own Xiaomi Mi5 and Essential Ph1. Quite a lot of difference in development. SD820 has started to show signs of aging and 3GB ram is not holding up well. Will hold on to Essential for next few years. Hope development kicks in. Although happy with stock rom and android p beta program.
Not a bad phone at all. for 500 dollars. Not much into camera. Overall a great phone. Dunno why there was so much negativity around this phone.

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@Rahat34, I sometimes wonder if there was just a lot of propaganda posting going on against the Essential. It was strange all the negativity as you mention, and to be honest, we all know all phones out there get their share of it, but for some reason, I really wondered when it came to this phone, now this was all without even owning this phone, I just thought it was odd. By the way, they just went on sale for half off, I ordered a few at $249USD...
But looks like the sale is over.
@Tech_Savvy, so is there any work going on with TWRP at the moment, that there should be something working soon?
As far as ROMS are concerned, there's a lot of Android users in the world, so saying how many we need, well, that's anyone's guess.
The AospExtended, this is a really nice ROM I'd like to see for the Essential.
Also if my eyes are seeing correct, I didn't notice Franco or Void with Kernels for the phone.
Then there's microG, any ROMs supporting it good?
I wonder, if Xposed is working good on Esssential with Oreo, stock or custom?

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@Rahat34, I sometimes wonder if there was just a lot of propaganda posting going on against the Essential. It was strange all the negativity as you mention, and to be honest, we all know all phones out there get their share of it, but for some reason, I really wondered when it came to this phone, now this was all without even owning this phone, I just thought it was odd. By the way, they just went on sale for half off, I ordered a few at $249USD...
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Even for $500, gettiing a SD835, unlockable bootloader, titanium-ceramic build,a nice lcd panel (and what not) was a steal. $250, its nuts . Here, we get 625 schip at this much price and crappy glassy phones.
Must have been some sort of propaganda/conspiracy. Every phone has drawbacks, But boy every youtube review was bashing this phone.

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Even for $500, gettiing a SD835, unlockable bootloader, titanium-ceramic build,a nice lcd panel (and what not) was a steal. $250, its nuts . Here, we get 625 schip at this much price and crappy glassy phones.
Must have been some sort of propaganda/conspiracy. Every phone has drawbacks, But boy every youtube review was bashing this phone.
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Yes it's a low price I paid...

Depends what you're after really. If you want a few solid roms, or a hundred half baked bug ridden roms. I've done the "huge" forums before where I had to wade through twenty roms in order to find one that functioned decently. I'm past my days of needing to flash a new rom on a daily basis though. Work and kids keep me from having the time to do that anymore even if I wanted to.
I"ll take a solid dependable phone with support from the manufacturer any day.

I'll add as well, there are quite a few roms that are simply not posted on these forums (validus, gzosp, etc).

crixley said:
I'll add as well, there are quite a few roms that are simply not posted on these forums (validus, gzosp, etc).
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Ive heard to go to discord but ive found nothing. Where should i go to find them?

Sure no one wants half baked, but there should be twice the amount of development going on that is at present.
Anyhow, I would hope that everyone agrees there is not a lot of development going on.
So, what do people think on this forum about an email drafted up, and the Modding Community reaching out to Essential, in hopes of building up it's modding development?

just got the phone from prime day sale plus extra $100 off from AMEX, paid around $170 total. I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality, it makes my LG V30 feels like a toy. Reception problem with AT&T is real though I would actually see zero reception driving around my neighborhood in upstate NY which never happens in any other phones I have.

oceansoul said:
just got the phone from prime day sale plus extra $100 off from AMEX, paid around $170 total. I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality, it makes my LG V30 feels like a toy. Reception problem with AT&T is real though I would actually see zero reception driving around my neighborhood in upstate NY which never happens in any other phones I have.
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@oceansoul, sorry, not sure what you mean by your post for development?
Thanks

you asked for why there is so little development for the phone, maybe because of the reception issue, not many people are using it? at the same spot I am getting -112dBm for PH-1 and -83dBm for Lg V30 on ATT LTE band 2

It really doesn't sound like you'll be happy with this phone, I'm sure someone will take it off your hands.

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toxic much? you asked for why there is so little development for the phone, maybe because of the reception issue, not many people are using it? at the same spot I am getting -112dBm for PH-1 and -83dBm for Lg V30 on ATT LTE band 2
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toxic much, what does that mean?

To buy, or not to buy?

Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!

adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.

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First, if you're coming from an LG G4 no wonder you're a little paranoid. :cyclops:
To help answer your question, being a student your cash flow is limited so base your choice on intended use and on available price. If you can find an Essential at a relatively good price, it's a good phone with good specs which, as a brand, it's no more susceptible to quirks and ticks than any other name brand. It also has a healthy online community to engage with for questions/support.
In the end though, if you're weighing purchasing a device versus paying a bill or buying a box of ramen and your primary use would be for email/text and begging for boob pictures I'd consider something boring with proven reliability (used Samsung S6 or S7 can be purchased around 100 bucks nowadays). Otherwise, if you have a line on a good, decently priced, Essential and don't have to hang out on street corners for book money after buying ... go for it.
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Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)

adam_s_459_ said:
Yeah I can get it for like CA$220 so I might just pull the trigger. I'm just doing research right now my plan actually resets in December so if something like a pixel 2 refurbished pops up I'll snag that, but thanks for your responce. (And yeah I'm a lil paranoid)
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It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery

rignfool said:
It seems to me you might be better served by a Pixel 3a given its time in the Android life cycle...
I would assume you can score one for only a little bit more than a used PH-1... And not get something with a 2 year old battery
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I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.

mruno said:
I agree and the Pixel 3a should be coming down in price with the release of the Pixel 4 in the next couple months.
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Theses are good points, I'll definitely look into it I never thought about the release cycle of the pixel 4
Thanks!

adam_s_459_ said:
Hello all,
I have a crappy old lg g4. It's really unstable and doesn't preform well.
I am a student so i'm short on cash and I am looking into buying an essential ph-1 but I have heard of numerous issues regarding the touch, crashing, random rebooting, camera and other things. Are these issues common? Are they fixed by custom roms? Or is this phone a minefeild that I should avoid?
I tried to find documentation on this but there is just mentions of it online and it's not clear how widespread they are.
Any answers to clear this up would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.

Aimless Rambler said:
It all comes down to your intended usage and budget. The reality is, most of us do not keep the same device as a daily driver for more than a year. If you want to spend 400 bucks on something you'll be bored with in 6 months despite the initial wow factor then your student cash flow is much better than mine was as a student. In the end, you just need a device which works for your needs.
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I would keep the device for 2 years but I'm looking for the most value for my $300 (CAD) and a device which I won't have issues with . RN I'm torn between the pixel 3a (if the price drops) and Galaxy a50. Either way I'll be happy so I'll just have to see which is cheaper at the time. Thanks!