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is it better to save in device or storage card? Does it matter

My phone is kinda slow and i was wondering if it makes any difference where i save my programs......Any suggestions on what to do?

I just got my phone and installed a recommended app called oxios.
A friend of mine had the tmobile wing, and it was operating really slowly too. I beamed that app over to him and it made his phone operate much much better.
I'd store stuff on your card, keeps the phone memory free to use and then its also removable if you want to loan some data to a friend or something.
To get Oxios, look at the thread I made called "Sprint Mogul must haves"

Yeah I agree...
Most stuff can be put onto the card.
I only put onto phone storage the stuff I use ALL the time or stuff that HAS to be there or running in the background(like MSVC, dialers, themes, sounds, etc)
I use wisbar advanved desktop and S2U2. I installed THOSE to phone memory along with various themes. It is running all the time and is quicker waking up when the phone rings etc. Ringtones should be on phone memory also.
All my games, other apps (like oxios, gps maps, youtube player, tvguide, aim, etc) are on the card. Because those I use/run them and when I'm done I close them.
Hope this makes sense....

I tried to download the file but it wont let me...do you know somewhere else i can get it? thanks

irnman43 said:
My phone is kinda slow and i was wondering if it makes any difference where i save my programs......Any suggestions on what to do?
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Generally, it won't make your phone slow if you have a lot of items loaded in local flash ROM. What typically makes it slow is having a number of background tasks that are running. Do you use taskmanager or something to close the excess junk?
Typically, if you have a program that runs on the today screen or in the background, load it in local ROM. If it is huge or seldom used, load it on the storage card.
If you install an app on the storage card, it may be a little slower to load into ram when you start it. Usually that isn't a problem though.

Ok. so I was thinking of installing manila and the opera browser. should i install them on the storage card?

I wouldn't put either of those on the storage card. As worwig said the speed of your device has only to do with the processor load, which can never be too much since the ram will never allow the titan to over bombard the processor. So, it really all boils down to open ram. The more you have generally the better proformance you are going to get. If it is really bad to the point where you open your phone and you have to wait more than half a second for the screen to flip I would recommend a hard reset or more effective install dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4. Then install each program soft reset and find which program is causing the memory drain.

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I personally prefer to save larger or less frequently used apps and all backups on a storage card. Just in case I need to do a hard reset or something goes wrong. Also a good practice is to have partial backups so if you need to get raid of some apps you could restore only what you need.
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Laggy Phone

My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released

If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/

You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.

borodin1 said:
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card

tanner2007 said:
And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.

Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.

borodin1 said:
Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while

I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.

I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?

how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.

borodin1 said:
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes

tanner2007 said:
I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
or
Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
(scroll down to second post)

SGS life after a Hard Reset

since i was unable to find the proper answer to fix the problem the easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793254
i had to go it the hard way
just went ahead and Wiped my phone.
it was less painful than i though it'll be, it was within the calculated parameters of the process involved to get your device up to speed in record time in a massive failure
so once the phone booted back into the OS, the very first thing i did was to setup APN
then sign in to my gmail account, BAM! got all my pictures, phones, contacts, calendars, etc, every thing back
then next task was to install AppsBrain, hit sync and BAM! i got my list of 400+ apps to install back
now i'm clicking through about 800 times install, okay, continue LOL :r
and i'm rather surprise Android Market, and the OS hasn't crapped out on me yet with the massive deluge of files action
it's install faster than i though... only 200+ apps to go
and about 15+ more email / IM accounts to join back into the system, and reconfiguring 400 apps
the Titanium Backup backed up files got wiped out in the process
at least i'm getting a good vibe out of this, it means the upgrade to Froyo will be just the same
the phone is HOT of all the 3.5G activity

the actual 3 button reboot to Recovery Mode + Wipe data and reboot back took less than a minute.
chances of missing a call during this time is quite low
SMS will be downloaded as soon as your phone goes back into OS, so chances of missing out on an important SMS is very unlikely

another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?

AllGamer said:
another interesting i noticed is that the File System is not choking up as it did before the Hard Reset.
before i couldn't get more than 4 apps downloading/installing concurrently in parallel
right now i'm doing around 10 at a time, and it doesn't slow down.
what gives?
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Really? Maybe i should wipe my device to
Installing more than 3 apps at the same moment.... it´s just a pain...

exactly, normally when you try to download and install 4 apps simultaneously it gets sooooooo slow, worse than a snail
but for some odd reason right now that is not happening, it's smooth download and install, i wonder that's the difference

recommend you buy/install mybackup pro.. you can reinstall a bunch of apps without it prompting you for each one... i think if you pay for titanium backup it does the same..
i frequently copy the appmanager (diff app i use) and titanium backup directoryies from internal to external sd so i have have a backup in case of a full reset ..
i also set mybackup pro to backup directly to external sd.

yeah, that was my problem i forgot to move a copy of titanium backup from internal SD to external SD
otherwise i'd not have had to go thorugh 800+ clicks to say OK to everything
LOL

well... after aprox 250+ apps/games installed the phone is going back to its old self slooooooooow when you try to install 2 or more apps concurrently.
and the list of Manage Apps takes a while to load up
so it seems like the sweet spot is to keep less than 200 apps on the phone to keep it running silky smooth

Thanks for the report and the painless part, AllGamer.
May have to try it one of these days if I screw up.
After reading you post, I move the Titanium Backups to SDcard
just so I don't forget. Now have to remember to update it.
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I can't even imagine how you have 800 apps on your phone. I just counted and I have 21, and to me that is a lot, but perfect.

not 800 it's 400 but for each install you need 2 click
so that's 800 clicks

Can you do a write up on step by step how to wipe and reinstall the (JH2) ROM, kernal, modem etc for i9000M?

Friendly "rooter" advice

This is for people that are ADB shy and/or "low" level rooters:
For folks using Titanium, rather than uninstall most apps, it is probaby best to Freeze them, since this provides the same function, but an easier backtrack if any issues. You could uninstall an app, but then you need to make sure you back it up. "Freezing" is a more efficient process. Apps like Need For Speed and Sparta can be uninstalled, since will not hurt anything and will save about 1gb of total space- especially nice to zap those apps, since Honeycomb has issues with installing apps with less than a 1gb of free space in the internal storage (or is this a exclusive problem for A500)?
As far as using Rootexplorer or messing with root-only files in general, best to not do this at all until there is a clockwork/nandroid option.

I did a freeze to most of the apps that I do not use on a regular and that I'm able to do w/out any problems. I just froze those game apps as I just wanted to wait until we could get recovery working. This will hold me over until that time comes.
I really need to learn ADB though.

Apps closing in background (RAM)

Hello,
I bought a ZE553KL 32gb/3g RAM model. At first I didnt know that the 32gb model has only 3gb RAM.
Well, upon using the smartphone I noticed that apps wont stay in background (RAM) for too long, example:
- I open facebook app, browse a little, then I open another app, use for a little time and when I switch back to facebook it has to load again 95% of the time.
- If i open the Antutu Benchmark App and then go to home screen, and switch back it has to load again, I dont even need to open another app for antutu to be closed.
I also noticed that the system wont let me use more than 2.2GB approximately, which means the system shuts down apps when i have less than 900MB or 800MB free RAM which for me makes no sense. why would they make a 3GB RAM phone that doesnt let you use it? What a waste of RAM.
I tried disabling the option "Clean up in suspend" at the auto-start manager and even disabling the whole Mobile Manager App. but nothing helps. I rarely can switch from an app to another without it closing.
Have someone had the same experience? does it happen on the 4gb RAM model too? can I do something about it? it's really annoying me and i'm thinking about getting a refund on this purchase, very disappointing

Nevermind

I tried everything, even developer options, doesnt matter what I do, the android wont let me use more than 2,2GB and everytime I want to switch to another app it has to load again, every damn time.
I guess the only solution would be a custom ROM, does anyone know when we will get one?