My phone is kinda slow and i was wondering if it makes any difference where i save my programs......Any suggestions on what to do?
I just got my phone and installed a recommended app called oxios.
A friend of mine had the tmobile wing, and it was operating really slowly too. I beamed that app over to him and it made his phone operate much much better.
I'd store stuff on your card, keeps the phone memory free to use and then its also removable if you want to loan some data to a friend or something.
To get Oxios, look at the thread I made called "Sprint Mogul must haves"
Yeah I agree...
Most stuff can be put onto the card.
I only put onto phone storage the stuff I use ALL the time or stuff that HAS to be there or running in the background(like MSVC, dialers, themes, sounds, etc)
I use wisbar advanved desktop and S2U2. I installed THOSE to phone memory along with various themes. It is running all the time and is quicker waking up when the phone rings etc. Ringtones should be on phone memory also.
All my games, other apps (like oxios, gps maps, youtube player, tvguide, aim, etc) are on the card. Because those I use/run them and when I'm done I close them.
Hope this makes sense....
I tried to download the file but it wont let me...do you know somewhere else i can get it? thanks
irnman43 said:
My phone is kinda slow and i was wondering if it makes any difference where i save my programs......Any suggestions on what to do?
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Generally, it won't make your phone slow if you have a lot of items loaded in local flash ROM. What typically makes it slow is having a number of background tasks that are running. Do you use taskmanager or something to close the excess junk?
Typically, if you have a program that runs on the today screen or in the background, load it in local ROM. If it is huge or seldom used, load it on the storage card.
If you install an app on the storage card, it may be a little slower to load into ram when you start it. Usually that isn't a problem though.
Ok. so I was thinking of installing manila and the opera browser. should i install them on the storage card?
I wouldn't put either of those on the storage card. As worwig said the speed of your device has only to do with the processor load, which can never be too much since the ram will never allow the titan to over bombard the processor. So, it really all boils down to open ram. The more you have generally the better proformance you are going to get. If it is really bad to the point where you open your phone and you have to wait more than half a second for the screen to flip I would recommend a hard reset or more effective install dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4. Then install each program soft reset and find which program is causing the memory drain.
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I personally prefer to save larger or less frequently used apps and all backups on a storage card. Just in case I need to do a hard reset or something goes wrong. Also a good practice is to have partial backups so if you need to get raid of some apps you could restore only what you need.
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It's safe to install software to the microdrive? I have heard alot of problem with the microdrive..
It's better in microsd? Any faster in the microdrive or microSD
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It's safe to install software to the microdrive? I have heard alot of problem with the microdrive..
It's better in microsd? Any faster in the microdrive or microSD
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I've posted several times already that almost all my applications are on microdrive. Every night I have an automatic backup of the entire content to the miniSDHC. If you do a benchmark using sktools, you will see that microdrive is way way faster than miniSDHC.
By installing my applications to microdrive, I'm able to change the storage cards when one runs out of capacity. This means unlimited videos, pictures, and musics.
It have problem with microdrive as often as with storage card, which is extremely seldom. During the nine months that I owned it, my microdrive had acted up twice, and storage card also twice, and that had more to do with the way I formatted them, thinking back. My PC hard drive had also given me problem occasionally
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I've posted several times already that almost all my applications are on microdrive. Every night I have an automatic backup of the entire content to the miniSDHC. If you do a benchmark using sktools, you will see that microdrive is way way faster than miniSDHC.
By installing my applications to microdrive, I'm able to change the storage cards when one runs out of capacity. This means unlimited videos, pictures, and musics.
It have problem with microdrive as often as with storage card, which is extremely seldom. During the nine months that I owned it, my microdrive had acted up twice, and storage card also twice, and that had more to do with the way I formatted them, thinking back. My PC hard drive had also given me problem occasionally
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OK, here's the flip side (eaglesteve and I seem to do this a lot recently!!!).
The MD uses much more battery life than the SD; it takes a while to spin up (so leads to inital delays) and if you drop the unit while the MD is spinning, you stand a greater chance of killing the MD (although it is to stop automatically using the accelerometer).
Frankly, there is so much RAM on this thing, I install the majority to the main memory. I also have push email (with a big inbox and contacts and calendar) and it still runs very fast. Any real bloater applications I install to SD and I still have room for a few albums, lots of photos and several satnav maps!!! And if my unit dies, I will take the SD card out and put it in a replacement. I don't use the MD for anything important.
So there you have it, there is no right answer!
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OK, here's the flip side (eaglesteve and I seem to do this a lot recently!!!).
The MD uses much more battery life than the SD; it takes a while to spin up (so leads to inital delays) and if you drop the unit while the MD is spinning, you stand a greater chance of killing the MD (although it is to stop automatically using the accelerometer).
Frankly, there is so much RAM on this thing, I install the majority to the main memory. I also have push email (with a big inbox and contacts and calendar) and it still runs very fast. Any real bloater applications I install to SD and I still have room for a few albums, lots of photos and several satnav maps!!! And if my unit dies, I will take the SD card out and put it in a replacement. I don't use the MD for anything important.
So there you have it, there is no right answer!
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I've tried installing everything intI main memory before. Unfortunately, it is not big enough for me. It also freezes up when the memory is too low.
I agree that battery life is somewhat affected, so I carry extra battery. I don't really try hard to save my battery. I use full screen brightness all the time.
Almost all of my stuff is on the drive. No problems. If I ever have to hard-reset I think I'll put everything in memory to compare. So far I havent used the SD slot.
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Almost all of my stuff is on the drive. No problems. If I ever have to hard-reset I think I'll put everything in memory to compare. So far I havent used the SD slot.
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You might be able to do this if you have just a few applications. For me I only install into device memory iLauncher, Microsoft Voice Commander, ftouchflo, wktask, wm5torage, mobile golf scorer, pieplus, sjphone, Tengo, googlemap, chronos alarm, pocket weather, and sipchange.
There is a compelling reason for each of them to go to the device memory, so they are rare exception for me.
hi,
i have all my today plugins installed at the rom, and all other applications installed (opera, adobereader, ...) installed at microdrive.
regards
eaglesteve said:
You might be able to do this if you have just a few applications. For me I only install into device memory iLauncher, Microsoft Voice Commander, ftouchflo, wktask, wm5torage, mobile golf scorer, pieplus, sjphone, Tengo, googlemap, chronos alarm, pocket weather, and sipchange.
There is a compelling reason for each of them to go to the device memory, so they are rare exception for me.
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I have about 25-30 apps on the drive.
Hope you have better luck then me.
The Microdrive continually corrupts (X7501 WM6).
I tried a format using an external formatter (described in another post here) but it failed again - rubbish comes up when you access it.
I've been emailing HTC with a case number but responses have dried up.
It's one of the few aspects of a very good unit which take the edge off owning it - the other is jerky video no matter what I try.
Anyway, enough moaning. I'll keep trying to get it 100% - and keep coming back to XDA-Developers.
Hope I can contribute enough in future to return the tips I've picked up from here.
Good luck with your unit.
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I have all my programs installed on the mini SD card It is a SDHC crd and is actually faster than the microdrive in running the programs.
Hence never went back
Only programs like solitaire i install on drive if i lose who cares.
Regards
mw22 said:
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I have all my programs installed on the mini SD card It is a SDHC crd and is actually faster than the microdrive in running the programs.
Hence never went back
Only programs like solitaire i install on drive if i lose who cares.
Regards
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Mine is a class 4 miniSDHC card made by Toshiba, but it is nowhere as fast as the microdrive. What brand and speed class is yours? What is it's benchmark with sktools?
For some reason, I don't see too many complaints about low memory issues - yet I have always had problems with my RAM.
I have almost all of my programs installed on my SD card to try reduce any of my memory usage - but if I run PIE, MSN Messenger, or try to play music, I almost always have low memory messages come up.
I usually have one program running in the background - Slide to Unlock - but as far as I know its not that memory intensive?
Any insight on how I can fix this?
Thanks!
Are you running an elf or an elfin? If your not sure.....go to start-->settings-->system-->device information-->hardware. What does your RAM size read? If its 64MB its an elf.....if it says 128MB its an elfin. Your saying you've installed all your applications on the storage card. How much free space do you have for program memory on your phone? Your phones needs free memory in order to run applications too. Perhaps its running low on that end? Two things you should do:
1. Move any extra files, photos, videos or anything else that you might have saved on the phone memory to the storage card. Use activesync. Its faster that way.
2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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I've been having "Insufficient memory" errors while trying to run SpB Backup, and have deleted all sorts of applications, but nothing seemed to free up enough memory. Then I tried your advice, and everything is working as it should!
Thanks!!
I have an elf - usually when I close all of my processes, except my stumble to unlock, I'll have approx. 15mb/47 free in my program memory. 10/28 of my storage space is free.
I've tried to clear all of my temp files... even made it so that all my temp files/PIE files are put on my storage card through SK tools, but still have the same issues.
As soon as I run my HTC music player with the one or two background apps, it almost always pops up with memory issues. Browsing with PIE is almost impossible for any period longer than 5 minutes.
I've tried it with several configurations and I always have the same results, even if I have no background processes - I still have the same issues.
Are you using a cooked ROM? Come to think of it, I never had many problems with the original shipped ROM. I was normally running S2U2, PocketMusic, Opera Mini and SpbMobileShell back then.
You mean to say you can't even run one application at a time without running out of RAM? Soft reset. And if you use SKTools like you say you do, try running Free Up RAM, select all options.
In your shoes I'd probably move everything I want to storage card, (you should want more than 10mb storage) try a hard reset and install my most used apps again. Oh, and what is your PagePool size? Try here to find out about that. It should be 4mb.
Your primary problem is indeed the fact that you are running out of space on your phone. 15mb for program memory especially on heavy usage is quite insufficient. Especially if your going to be multi tasking and running several applications at once. I would move ALL my installed programs and anything else I may be able to get my hands on, to the storage card. Try to squeeze out atleast 25-30mb out of your program memory. This should give your phone some more breathing space.
This might be to use of you to try it out.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
hi
I had the same problem before but now my touch runs fine now & haven't got any issues till now. Use advanced task manager and pocket mechanic. These application will keep ur pocketpc in good shape.
Very good, Thanks.
Hi,
I currently only have 4.98mb left of the 180.85mb total storage available on my device and am now getting 'critically low memory' warnings. I have not installed many apps or anything else to the phone and can't really understand why this is so high.
I had a look at the folders which are: -
Application Data 39.8mb
Documents and Settings 1.07mb
My Documents 2.77mb
Program Files 10.4mb
Windows - doesn't say but must be approx 115mb for the total to be correct? Is this normal?
Also, I have 115.06mb free of the 336.93mb total program memory available.
Is anyone else having similar issues? If the windows section is suppossed to use this high amount why has the phone not been allocated enough memory to deal with it?
Thanks
James
You should search a bit, but, empty the cache folder of HTCAlbum, Opera, etc.. in Application Data.
Thanks for the help. I have deleted the contects of the HTCalbum cache and Google maps and this has increased the available memory to 39.57mb.
Why should we have to delete cache data to be able to use our device? This seems a bit crap to me
Your memory usage is not normal- the HD2 has about 135MB free Storage Memory after a hard reset, so something has grabbed your memory somewhere.
I'd suggest downloading a small program called SpaceFinder which can give you a tree view of where the memory has gone sorted by folder size. It was designed for much older versions of WinMo but still works well. Some of the fiels it sees are in the ROM, but at least it will give you some clues.
Culprits for memory usage apart from the caches are music and video files- look in those folders to see if there's anything obvious.
Hello JJJJacksonjjjjj
Your problem is not new and has been reported many times on here.
If you look in the hints and tips thread in this forum there are a number of suggestions for clawing back memory space, which I suggest you implement.
Other thing is I bet you have been installing all of your apps onto the phome memory when you could have done so onto the storage card. If I am right then I would suggest you backup all your data using, say Sprite Backup or my preferred app which is SPB Backup, hard reset your phone and rebuild it from scratch, installing your apps carefully and onto the memory card instead.
Might sound a bit heavy handed but you will reap the benefits in the long run (If too drastic for you then deinstall and reinstall apps onto external memory instead without hard resetting).
I built my phone exactly this way from day one. Every app that gets installed gets assessed by me as to whether it needs to be in phone memory or not. If not then its straight onto the memory card (running an 8GB at the moment, waiting for the 32GB to come onstream and at at a reasonable price).
This, plus all the tips in the thread I mentioned earlier, have left me a happy bunny memory wise.
Good luck with it.
WB
Thanks guys, I am sorted now.
I downloaded spacefinder (really good program) and found out straight away that I had 30mb+ in Windows>Opera9>Profile>Download. I didn't know it kept all the downloaded cabs and pdfs etc you download (without saving), I thought these would be cleared when you exit Opera.
Also there were loads of facebook pictures in the temporary internet files of Internet Explorer! Why does it save all these?!
Anyway, I am now at 93.5mb free out of 180.85mb so all is good
Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues. Most people I know wouldn't have the first idea about all the messing about we have to do with these devices, and as a result they would have a sluggish, buggy device within weeks of normal use.
Without the help form you guys on XDA I would have probobly ditched the TP after a month or so, and I think I knew deep down I was being too hopeful, but I thought the HD2 would be free from the minor niggles I had with my TP.
That turned into a bit of a rant lol.
Thanks again guys.
...many problems are for cache of programs like htc album, opera, google maps...
...in this post there are many advice, and explain how to move the htc album cache to storage card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600578
...i have a good result with SKTOOLS program, because i had the same problem with the internal memory
good luck!
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Don't get me wrong I love my HD2 (and TP before) but HTC will never win over the mass market unless they sort out these kind of issues.
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Glad you're sorted- despite its age, I still always load Spacefinder as one of my 1st apps. Only 72KB and does exactly what it says!
Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
At least the HD2 has a fair amount of free space- unlike earlier devices which ground to a halt because of these stupid problems.
Spacefinder download link please gents (google is not turning up what I am looking for)?
Cheers
WB
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Don't blame HTC for these issues- it is down to both MS and the application developers like Opera to define whether & where they store stuff.
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I am probably being a bit unfair to HTC, but a lot of the common issues most people seem to have are (as far as I can see) ones that HTC should sort - sms, pink camera etc (I didn't just mean the memory). How can they release a top line device with these issues and expect that users will check for and install fixes?
My point is that they are selling us a product; which they know things like Opera, the facebook app, HTC photo etc are integral to how it will be used by the consumer, so they should ensure these functions work reliably out of the box without user research and fixing.
I don't want to knock HTC (I wouldn't have any other device now), but there are always niggles that they should sort out before release
hey guys never posted here before..i did some searches and didnt see anything i could use so i fig id ask. memory storage one my verizon imagio is so low i couldnt even open youtube. i deleted a bunch of pics... walpapers and other stuff that seemed to fix it for a while. i was seeing 25kb of rom i loaded a new slider lock and now im at about 12kb...so i deleted more, still at 12kb. i need to know where this storage is...and how it goes overnite so fast...suks..thanks guys. not good with this stuff so go easy..thanks
1. Backup any and all files you wish to keep.
2. Get the HSPL unlocker and unlock your phone. Can be found at ppcgeeks.com.
3. While your on ppcgeeks download one or two of the custom ROMs
Look for a ROM that has left out the VZW bloat. that will free up memory and resources.
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memory storage on my verizon imagio is so low i couldnt even open youtube. i deleted a bunch of pics... walpapers and other stuff that seemed to fix it for a while. i was seeing 25kb of rom i loaded a new slider lock and now im at about 12kb...so i deleted more, still at 12kb. i need to know where this storage is...and how it goes overnite so fast
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Are you sure it is storage memory that is running low? There are two memory "bins" on these phones. Storage memory is where you store files, etc. Program memory is where programs you install reside - this is where programs "live" while running.
Are you running a stock Imagio - no modifications, just like it came from the factory? If so, there are several memory "leaks" (programs that use memory and then do not release it when exited) and much bloatware (programs that almost nobody use, but still consume memory) on the phone.
I have to agree with the previous post - load a new ROM. I use the Energy ROM, but try out a few to see what you like.
I am running into the issue when I try to run an app there isn't enough memory. I don't have anything running in the back ground. I find that if I delete all my sms/mms it removes the problem for a while until it fills up again. I guess my question is what else can I clean out to gain more memory. I thought I was saving everything I could to the SD card. How do I isolate which programs are using the most memory? Thanks for any help you may be able to provide!
Sincerely,
Lou
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Hello.. I was having the same problem as well. I bought this phone about a month ago and I love it. I started getting a memory error, and eventually the phone stopped receiving texts and notifications. Very frustrating.
I searched online and found a helpful page and then decided to reinstall apps to the storage card. It takes some digging but you can also find tweaks for storing email attachments, temp files, etc. to the storage card (haven't checked, surely the folks here at XDA have suggestions to make this easier). Finally I discovered this really cool little app called cleanRAM.
I've noticed an improvement. Mainly because it seems the HTC apps sure love to eat up local memory and make things run rather sluggish on the Imagio.
I started with the "Troubleshooting: HTC Imagio (Verizon) Sluggishness/Freezing" over at the HTC forums.
(I guess I'm too new to post a link. Sorry!)
And then thought really long and hard about installing software to the storage card. I figured because I never remove it, and its a 8GB card, probably not a bad idea to start doing it.
I had to really think about it because I prefer to save my storage card space for music and pictures.
Anyway, I would install anything system-related such as file finders, registry editors, .Net CF, today launchers, Gyrator, cleanRAM etc to the device. Everything else such as Google Maps, 3rd party browsers, games, GPS utilities, etc. is now installed to the storage card.
I just found this today and it seems to work pretty well. Try searching for "cleanRAM windows mobile" in Google.
Hey XDA folks.. surely you guys have placed more tips and tweaks elsewhere for this sort of thing, specific to the Imagio..??
The only thing you should install to the device itself are things like MODS, not APPS.
ESPESCIALLY NOT the CF Framework. It is hugh!!!
As a general rule... MODS to Device. APPS to Storage Card
Hey, so I'm slow..
I haven't checked back here in a while. So I'm a little slow!!
Yeah, you know I never really gave much thought to where to install software to, and got into the habit of always internal. Ever since experiencing the memory issue on the Imagio, I changed that habit pretty quickly.
What I find interesting is, if a techie like me had all these "problems" I can only imagine what non-techies must go through. I feel bad for them, because if they would read the manual, take time to research Imagio memory issues, and take the time to tweak their phones they wouldn't have so many problems!
Anyway, thanks much for the tip. Been wanting (yes.. wanting) to do a hard reset just to clean things up and to install mods and apps in the right spots.
My only concern is with Bing. When I do the hard reset, I probably won't even start it. I miss the old version. It's installed to the ROM, correct? So should I accidentally start it and it automatically upgrades, where should the upgrade go.. internal memory, or storage card?