My Moto G5 Plus won't update.. - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

So as the title suggests. I bought my phone 2 months ago, and since I got it it hasn't updated once. Nothing, not so much as a security patch or anything.
I've tried googling this but nothing comes up. I obviously check via system update - and it says it's up to date.
My build number ends 137-33.
Android security patch 1st January 2017.
It's not rooted. And all stock.
Is this normal?

My phone came with same build and you're not alone. Twiddling thumbs may help with the long wait, or root and try some custom ROMs. I've got the June 5th security patch running CyberOS which is based on Android 7.1.2 and other custom ROMs are similar. There's a debloated stock ROM based on India's G5+ update (they got one already) with the March patch at least. That said, there are rumbles ours is finally coming soon if you do want to remain stock and get the OTA.

What does it say under Settings > About Phone> Software Channel?

There hasnt been an update for the UK Moto G5 Plus yet.

Dahenjo said:
.There's a debloated stock ROM based on India's G5+ update (they got one already) with the March patch at least. That said, there are rumbles ours is finally coming soon if you do want to remain stock and get the OTA.
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I asked a similar question in a separate thread and maybe you know, is the update 137-35-5 that is available as a zip able to be flashed over this same build, 137-33 I have now? I unlocked my bootloader but stopped short of flashing twrp or rooting. I think the 35-5 update only has the May security patch only but someone uploaded the full firmware. Any opinions are welcome.

MrBelter said:
There hasnt been an update for the UK Moto G5 Plus yet.
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Yeah, I cannot believe that some regions were being updated months ago to March and subsequently May security patches and the UK is still yet to receive any updates at all. Why do manufacturers make their lives so much more difficult by having such variances by region? A single software version for all regions seems to work just fine for Google and their Nexus/Pixel lines.

surrealjam said:
Yeah, I cannot believe that some regions were being updated months ago to March and subsequently May security patches and the UK is still yet to receive any updates at all. Why do manufacturers make their lives so much more difficult by having such variances by region? A single software version for all regions seems to work just fine for Google and their Nexus/Pixel lines.
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I fully agree with you mate and i think it is only going to get worse with Lenovo pumping out more and more models.

I am in same boat my friend

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New stock firmware available (24.221.8)

Hi all.
I just noticed there's new firmware. Has anyone updated yet? In using an XT1572.
I'm rooted etc... So I can't quite simply update.
Should I be flashing the last stock firmware i have and then update? The last fastboot I have is the February patch, but my phone is on the May patch. Whatever firmware i flashed gives me another language in the update notification screen...lol.
Any guidance would be appreciated. Otherwise, I'll just do my thing blindly.
d.casper.b said:
Hi all.
I just noticed there's new firmware. Has anyone updated yet? In using an XT1572.
I'm rooted etc... So I can't quite simply update.
Should I be flashing the last stock firmware i have and then update? The last fastboot I have is the February patch, but my phone is on the May patch. Whatever firmware i flashed gives me another language in the update notification screen...lol.
Any guidance would be appreciated. Otherwise, I'll just do my thing blindly.
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After your post, I rechecked the update service on my phone (xt1572 also). I got also new update here, but right now I cant do update (rooted + xposed). WIll try later, but I suppose that there is just new security patch. Strange that I got another version..
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fount out Motowebpage
it look like the only improvements are - September security patch there.
Is the update for India dual sim xt1572?
I've installed the update today. The download size was about 40 MB, so seems to be a small patch indeed. I can confirm that it contains the september security patch, haven't noticed anything else yet.
I do think it's a shame that Moto is lacking so much in the update department lately. This is a security patch of two months ago... Also I would have expected them to have news on Nougat by now, at least for their Moto Z family...
6.0.1 ? at the time of 7.0?
BooBzi said:
After your post, I rechecked the update service on my phone (xt1572 also). I got also new update here, but right now I cant do update (rooted + xposed). WIll try later, but I suppose that there is just new security patch. Strange that I got another version..
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it look like the only improvements are - September security patch there.
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makarand1881 said:
6.0.1 ? at the time of 7.0?
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it's not 6.0.1 update it's only security patch, we already had 6.0.1 in eu for a while
Has someone already tried the update with Flashfire? Im Rooted, on Frankenclark and Xposed. Does anyone know if we can get a flashable zip to flash in TWRP? To much work to go back to Stock, update and install everything again. Is the patch it worth?
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can someone upload full firmware for retasia? thx
We have to wait for Moto to release/leak the firmware image, the OTA zip won't do any good... This usually takes 2-4 weeks, sometimes more, to get the factory image. Be patient.
BTW, it is nothing special, all it does is patch to the Sept 1, 2016, security update, including Dirty Cow (which if you have been following the security threads is pretty much worthless on Lollipop and newer devices anyway)
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Is the update for India dual sim xt1572?
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India bro?
we will get it by next week and i hope volte support for jio also is gonna be fix in this upcoming build
What's your source?

When do i get the nougat update

I had flashed the latest rr (nougat). I flashed stock firmware now and don't seem to have the notification for the nougat update. It says mty device is up to date, my one friend has recieved the update.
vaibhavplays said:
I had flashed the latest rr (nougat). I flashed stock firmware now and don't seem to have the notification for the nougat update. It says mty device is up to date, my one friend has recieved the update.
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Which model no your device nd which stock rom you flash
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Which model no your device nd which stock rom you flash
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Yes the device model is xt1643 and the rom I flashed is the latest one MPJ24.139-63
vaibhavplays said:
Yes the device model is xt1643 and the rom I flashed is the latest one MPJ24.139-63
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are you 100% confirm your friend recieve OTA for nougat
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are you 100% confirm your friend recieve OTA for nougat
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99% cause it could be soak test but he doesn't even know what recovery is so I don't think ke would have soak test on his phone
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99% cause it could be soak test but he doesn't even know what recovery is so I don't think ke would have soak test on his phone
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I think wait for some days to receive OTA Nougat bcz i don't think anyone got officially OTA Nougat...
I can confirm this. I had flashed MPJ24.139-63 earlier and received Nougat OTA Update. But since mine was rooted and had TWRP recovery, it failed. So I took the downloaded file and flashed MPJ24.139-63 again hoping I'd get the update. But now it tells my device is up to date.
Xt1644 RETUSA
This is nothing in plain sight for people in the United States as we get the chaft everytime. Good device but thought they followed Googles lead in their device updates. Here is what is received from Lenovo
My name is Mohammed from Motorola E-mail Support and it will be my pleasure to assist you with any concern that you might have. I hope that your day is going great so far.
Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience that we may have caused you.
In this case let me tell you that you can check for updates by going to Settings > About Phone> system updates. If the device says it's up to date, and you have not received the notification update, you should wait until the notification to arrive since it is sent via OTA, by the way let me tell you that we do not send system updates in this case you can also contact your carrier about this issue since they are in charge to send it.
I would also suggest you to please keep checking our software update page periodically:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/
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This is nothing in plain sight for people in the United States as we get the chaft everytime. Good device but thought they followed Googles lead in their device updates. Here is what is received from Lenovo
My name is Mohammed from Motorola E-mail Support and it will be my pleasure to assist you with any concern that you might have. I hope that your day is going great so far.
Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience that we may have caused you.
In this case let me tell you that you can check for updates by going to Settings > About Phone> system updates. If the device says it's up to date, and you have not received the notification update, you should wait until the notification to arrive since it is sent via OTA, by the way let me tell you that we do not send system updates in this case you can also contact your carrier about this issue since they are in charge to send it.
I would also suggest you to please keep checking our software update page periodically:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/
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I can't say for all carriers but I know that most have the final say on when the updates are pushed out. Since they field calls for problems their support people have to be up to speed on each release. Almost across the board you'll see the following when you put in your carrier "This device will be upgraded to the Android 7 (Nougat) release, pending partner support."
It sucks.
vaibhavplays said:
I had flashed the latest rr (nougat). I flashed stock firmware now and don't seem to have the notification for the nougat update. It says mty device is up to date, my one friend has recieved the update.
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How to flash stock MM firmware from latest NPJ25.93-11 Nougat firmware? Please help.
I am also waiting for the N update...I thought moto is good at delivering Android updates... and now I'm running out of patience...
Has anybody received Nougat update on Moto g4 plus in India yet
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I am a beginner and wanted to know if I can iodatey G4 plus with the ota zips available online. My device is extremely new and I don't want to take any risk or void the warranty. Any suggestions! Maybe I could wait for the official update to come? Pls help.
prateekk056 said:
I am a beginner and wanted to know if I can iodatey G4 plus with the ota zips available online. My device is extremely new and I don't want to take any risk or void the warranty. Any suggestions! Maybe I could wait for the official update to come? Pls help.
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The only way to remain risk free let the update notification arrive and then update from there. Anything else has an element of riskiness involved.
But soak test otas can be flashed if you can bear the risk
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The only way to remain risk free let the update notification arrive and then update from there. Anything else has an element of riskiness involved.
But soak test otas can be flashed if you can bear the risk
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Ok thanks!
Is there such a problem with waiting? I mean really? If you are so desperate for an upgrade install a custom ROM. It's not officially released yet and only reports of soak tests are not through Motorola. Please be patient. It's better to have it right than not.
daverobinson88 said:
Is there such a problem with waiting? I mean really? If you are so desperate for an upgrade install a custom ROM. It's not officially released yet and only reports of soak tests are not through Motorola. Please be patient. It's better to have it right than not.
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My thoughts exactly. I can see the point if someone wants to install a custom rom, lord knows I've done it enough, but installing a soak test that could kill your real OTA or contain bad code, borders on ridiculous. If you don't have a chance of receving Nougat then I'd go for it, but AFAIK, all the G4's are going to get it. I actually had an official soak test on a previous phone and it killed my final ota.

Google is sending the Android 7.0 OTA update to Nexus 6 phones running 7.1.1

If you're on 7.1.1 and get an update notification, be careful!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-7-0-ota-update-nexus-6-phones-running-7-1-1/
Also under discussion on reddit. May be isolated to T-Mobile, but not sure. I'm running 7.1.1 with the March update on Project Fi, and haven't seen anything yet.
Just came across this online. That would suck if someone got an OTA and accepted it. Ouch.......Good thing there's custom ROMs. ?. But yeah....Beware everyone.
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Why would anyone accept an update to 7.0 when that person clearly sideloaded and knows that they are running 7.1.1? Clearly that person was curious and bit them in the ass on first boot after the "upgrade".
What is Google doing.. Unbelievable
This was posted on reddit from a "Nexus Comminuty Manager". Seriously- WTF?
Hey All,
There was a recent OTA update for Android 7.0 that is causing confusion for some Nexus 6 users. For those of you that want to guarantee future OTA updates, you will need to get back on the 7.0 supported track. If you are experiencing issues after accepting the 7.0 update, please factory reset your device to help resolve any problems.
For any Nexus 6 users that want to continue flashing/sideloading future builds, you can stay on 7.1.1 and continue to do so.
Hope this clarifies! Nexus Community Manager
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Link to the thread
I'm just glad I flash the factory images when they're available and don't wait for OTAs, but this is beyond my comprehension.
dberthia said:
This was posted on reddit from a "Nexus Comminuty Manager". Seriously- WTF?
Link to the thread
I'm just glad I flash the factory images when they're available and don't wait for OTAs, but this is beyond my comprehension.
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That actually does make sense though.
Google's response on that thread is stellar. I really can't believe how poorly they've handled N on our device. Making me second guess a Pixel 2 right now.
has there been any confirmation / clarification that after accepting the 7.0 "update", the latest 7.1.1 OTA will be immediately available for updating?
dont want to be stuck on 7.0 till april
This is funny, got my 6p yesterday
Better not move to pixel, if Google behave like that.
Custom Community vs. Burning money
2 years support on a phone plus or minus a few months for security updates is not enough for the price they are commanding.
Big disappointment... expensive phone trashed like a low end one...
Now the question is: will security patches come in both 7.1.1 and 7.0 forms?
They will for a while. In the U.S. at least, the Nexus 6 has been getting patched for 6.1, 7.0, and 7.1.1 for the last several months, depending on what carrier's SIM card was in the phone. It sounds like the patches to 6.1 may now be done with T-mobile and Fi now on 7.0. With any luck, next month will bring them all to 7.1.1, but I am not holding my breath with the way the update round has been rolling.
I am currently on 7.1.1 N6F26Q whic I think is the January update. I have not seen a March update yet but I am sure it should have come. Perhaps because I sideloaded the 7.1.1?
Presumably I can download this and sideload it to get to the March update and hopefully correct the speaker phone issue without losing data using the instructions on this page
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/shamu-ota-n6f26u-62ac8549.zip
veesix said:
Now the question is: will security patches come in both 7.1.1 and 7.0 forms?
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My guess is that we won't see any more updates even for security purposes.
Katt50 said:
My guess is that we won't see any more updates even for security purposes.
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No, monthly security patches at least through this September.
I think what he was trying to say was that because the "supported" track for the N6 is Android 7.0 and not Android 7.1.1, any security updates we see will only be for Android 7.0, meaning no security updates for Android 7.1.1. Given how Google has dangled the carrot for us with Android 7.1.1 and then suddenly snatched it back it wouldn't surprise me if ending support for Android 7.1.1 on the N6 is what ends up happening.
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I think what he was trying to say was that because the "supported" track for the N6 is Android 7.0 and not Android 7.1.1, any security updates we see will only be for Android 7.0, meaning no security updates for Android 7.1.1. Given how Google has dangled the carrot for us with Android 7.1.1 and then suddenly snatched it back it wouldn't surprise me if ending support for Android 7.1.1 on the N6 is what ends up happening.
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She thinks that the Nexus 6 is done with security updates no matter if you are on 7.0 or 7.1.1. But we'll know over time.
Google should be more clear on that and just say whats up
FYI: Just did a full factory reset here and got 7.1.1 with March update. Phone runs even smoother now. 1st reset I have ever done.

Moto G5 Plus Updates

Has this phone received ANY updates? When I run Motorola's update through the Android Settings app, I'm told the phone is up-to-date, but the phone is still running Android 7.0 with a 1/1/17 security patch... is this some kind of joke?
My updates are from September. Not sure what's going on with your updates. You can manually update via fastboot or TWRP if you aren't getting them...
Karlinski said:
My updates are from September. Not sure what's going on with your updates. You can manually update via fastboot or TWRP if you aren't getting them...
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How do I do this?
The UK finally got the May security patch a week or so ago and when i asked Moto UK about updates they were a little terse with their answer.
I have loved my Moto phones since owning a Moto Defy but i have been looking at Nokia handsets and they seem very good for the money and with the promise of timely updates.
There's a thread in here somewhere with all the firmware links for TWRP. Those are all flashable if you have it. If not, there's another thread with fastboot firmware. Just gotta find which you need and get cracking
Hello,
I bought my phone on Ocotber 2017 and i haven't received any updates yet. My latest security patch are from August 2017.
Is this normal?
Thank you
Stock update
Moto xt1686 got an update right now. Well I am waiting for stock Oreo!
Tyto said:
Hello,
I bought my phone on Ocotber 2017 and i haven't received any updates yet. My latest security patch are from August 2017.
Is this normal?
Thank you
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Yes, I believe the August 1st security patch, Android 7.0 is the latest update for the US variant. Build number is NPN25. 137-83.
I got mine from Amazon UK and it's on the august patch.
It's dual SIM, that might make a difference?
I have the Amazon Prime exclusive version (U.S. XT1687) with 7.0 (NPN25.137-83), Security Patch 8/1/2017
Brainstatic said:
Yes, I believe the August 1st security patch, Android 7.0 is the latest update for the US variant. Build number is NPN25. 137-83.
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Yep. I'm on RETUS and that is the latest version.
i am using Indian variant and having 1st November 2017's security update.
Can anyone drop the link to download august build stock rom for xt1686
Hello, thanks for the feedback.
5 months without any security update, that's a lot of time.
Mine is on reteu, NPNS25.137-33-11.
Just talked to motorolla on the chat and they said that don't know when the next security patch will be available. For a phone that has release last year on February, the support/updates should be more active. A little bit disappointed with that.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
Tyto said:
Hello,
I bought my phone on Ocotber 2017 and i haven't received any updates yet. My latest security patch are from August 2017.
Is this normal?
Thank you
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My latest security patch level are from nov 1.
What's your provider reteu?
This is the Latest update i have in india XT1686.
Security Patch: November 1, 2017
Build Number: NPN25.137-92
Android Version: 7.0
New patch from November 1, on January, almost six months after last one! Not bad two per year if lucky
Well done motorolla well done.

Moto G5 Plus Software Update

My Moto G5 Plus is telling me that my software is up to date, yet it's still running Android 7.0, but more importantly the security patch level is 1/1/17. I don't know about major OS updates, but there MUST be at least some updates out there that I'm not getting. Can someone link me to somewhere where I can find a .zip files for all OTA updates, so I can just flash the update and then flash Magisk again to retain root? Thanks!
You are probably not receiving OTA updates since you've rooted your phone, right? There was no major updates but there was few security patches this year. Which model exactly you have? That's gonna help in providing you correct links...
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
nlinecomputers said:
I too feel like I am not on the latest version. I have two XT1687 units. I got two updates minutes after power on but I only at the March 1st update. Build NPN 25.137-43-5. Are there newer builds for the US version phone?
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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NPN25.137-83 with an August 1 security patch is the latest in the US... unless you are on Verizon, I think they are still on an older build due to voice quality issues.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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I am on Verizon so that must be it. One more reason to move on to another carrier. Which is partly why I got the phones to begin with.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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Problem is your stuck regardless of carrier now until they release an update FROM NPN25.137-43-5 to whatever... an OTA update is a differential update, meaning you have to have X to move to Y, so the update you just have to wait anyway.
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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I don't quite follow. Are you saying the build I am running is for Verizon only? If I put in T-Moblie sim cards in I would STILL not get the update?
Is there a way to flash the latest build in whole, not a delta upgrade?
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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I am using a rooted Moto G5 Plus that I bought from Amazon (no ads, 64 GB ROM & 4 GB RAM) with the stock software it was shipped with. As far as I understand, with a rooted phone, to update your software you just need to flash (1) the latest OTA update .zip file, and then (2) flash the root package .zip file again to retain root. However, unlike other phones, I can't find these OTA software update .zip files ANYWHERE. Can someone please help?
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Sort of... OTA files can only be flashed on a pure stock system, no root, no TWRP, no Xposed, nothing changed in system, no removed packages, etc. If the OTA script even detects that /system was ever mounted R/W it can fail (I don't know if Moto goes that far).
To flash an OTA you must restore your stock ROM completely (/system, /boot, and any other system level partitions), and restore stock recovery, and all versions must match or the OTA script will crap out with an error.
The OTA files are out there, on this forum in various threads... you can find them along with instructions on how to apply them to rooted and stock systems.
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Yes, that is what I am saying... Verizon had some real issues with voice quality initially, and several Verizon "specific" software updates went out to address that issue, and only to Verizon users, the rest of us (such as myself on AT&T) never got those updates.
You have to wait until Moto makes an update to the latest version from your version -AND- Verizon accepts it and allows it to be pushed out. Switching SIMs now won't matter since there is no update from your version to the latest out there, in fact, it could actually delay you getting the update because you are not on Verizon so Moto's update server may not offer it to your IMEI until it is available for pull (rather than push, which is all we have seen so far)
We do not have the full image of the ROM either, so flashing it is not possible.
The kicker is that the latest version supposedly fixes all the Verizon specific issues too. :/
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Well ****. I screwed up then. I got these phones to leave Verizon and all that controlled rollout BS.(Had Droid Turbo before this) Didn't know that even on unbranded phones they would still interfere So can you rollback to the shipping rom?
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Oh yeah... Moto's level of doing what the carriers "recommend" or whatever you want to call it, is ridiculous lately.
Good example is Nougat for the Moto X Pure Edition, if you are on Sprint or US Cellular you got it 2 months ago, but Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile users still haven't seen it. Except many users have figured it out, pop in a Boost Mobile SIM (not even activated) and it will grab the update almost immediately, let it apply, then swap your original SIM back in and enjoy some Nougat goodness. However that device never had a specific version for a certain carrier. Still today probably 80% of users of that FLAGSHIP device still haven't gotten an update that we know was completed in June/July, due to "partner approvals" or some such BS.
All these updates still come directly from Moto and their servers, but they are doing what the carriers tell them and only allowing it to certain devices... This has vaguely been admitted to by the mods on the official Lenovo support forums.
Honestly, many smaller brands with a history of poor update frequency get better update support than Moto's these days... My son's Axon 7 Mini already has 7.1.1 with the September update for BlueBourne, he got it the third week of September, and gets on every 3 months like clockwork. My faith in Moto is diminishing quickly, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on my last two (Moto X Pure Edition and Moto G 2015) because they were kind of transitional device during the Google-Lenovo switch over, and although my Moto G5 Plus is supported a little better I believe it is just because it is newer and not because Moto got better.
Chances this will be last Moto device? Let's just say this could be my last Moto device, and I have been a big Motorola fan for many years.
@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
Can anyone link me where to find OTA updates for Moto G5 Plus and, if necessary, instructions? I don't see why the instructions would be any different from the OnePlus 5, other than Motorola making it harder on purpose.
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@acejavelin That can't be true for every phone. On the OnePlus 5, I am able to flash an OTA update through TWRP and then flash the root package and everything works fine.
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Never said it was true for every phone or manufacturer, but that is the way it is with Moto devices... You cannot flash an OTA with TWRP, the script checks (among other things) the recovery and will fail if it doesn't have the correct signature, same with the modems, bootloader, partition table, and things in /system. Moto OTA updates are VERY picky and will fail at the drop of a hat on a device that is not purely stock.
The only work around, that works in SOME cases with Moto devices, is using FlashFire by Chainfire, but that is hit and miss, depends on what is updated.
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
Karlinski said:
There is a thread here that has TWRP flashable OTA updates. I flashed myself to the latest USA version just this week using them...
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Do you have a link to this thread? I am curious how the modems, partition table, and bootloader updates are handled since TWRP doesn't have the correct signature to write to these partitions. I can see where it could maybe update the boot and system partitions if they were extracted from the ROM, even if they are differential deltas, but my guess is that a "TWRP flashable" OTA is mearly an extract of a blank device's boot and system partition or just he changes, and packed into an OpenRecovery script, and not the "real" OTA file.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Karlinski said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Q9Nap said:
Do NOT attempt to apply standard OTAs over these builds; they will fail.
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
acejavelin said:
Ahh... OK... Read through those, can see they are ROM's that someone created from the OTA's and factory images, not the actual OTA's and cannot be used with a locked bootloader, . And if you read through it, they don't upgrade some partitions, like modems, and they have modified boot images that disable DM-Verity and force disable encryption...
They even clearly say:
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any developers work, but these are ROMs, just not very custom as they are essentially stock with near no modifications.
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The TWRP flashable stock builds DO upgrade the modem.
As stated in the OP, the only partitions NOT upgraded are gpt and bootloader.
I didn't omit these partitions because they can't be written; I omitted them to prevent potential issues for people who really don't know what they're doing.
Disabling dm-verity is required due to some partitions unavoidably losing their oem signatures during the conversion process.
Disabling force encryption is practically required, as TWRP seems buggy with it enabled.
The intended purpose of these builds is to provide a dead simple (and safe) way for users to return to stock.
I have linked useful tools at the bottom of the OP for those interested in making their own modifications to these stock builds.
Hope this helps :good:
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Hope this helps :good:
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It does actually, thank you... Obviously I have a lot to learn about the differences between current devices and older Moto devices I am used to working.

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