Video stabilisation - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Does anyone knows if essential will have OIS, EIS?

https://twitter.com/essential/status/875469689358516224

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OIS: Software or Hardware?

It is nice to see OIS on the Note. I assumed it was hardware, but I noticed the option for stabilization becomes disabled when shooting 4K video. This led me to believe it's software and performing stabilization via software for 4K would be too much for the phone. If hardware, why is stabilization turned off for 4k?
Pretty sure it's hardware since that's how it works for Canon (IS) and Nikon (VR) lenses.
Pentax has it as part of their camera bodies instead of their lenses, but it's still a hardware feature.
And it could be that they allow OIS to be deactivated during 4K video since if the phone is placed on a tripod, the OIS can get in the way, but I'm not sure tbh.

Video Stabilisation / Video Quality

I have been wading through all the YouTube videos trying to get an idea if the ZTE Axon 7 will be my next phone and I find this
I am totally suprised at how good the OIS / EIS is working and it looks to me very similar to the S7 and iPhone 6s+ stabilisation.
If anyone has the phone please let us know what you think and if you can post some video capture in 1080p that would be great to.
The autofocus seems lost too often in this scene...
masterbox said:
The autofocus seems lost too often in this scene...
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It does. Software issue so could be fixed ? But how about that ois
How many axis OIS and EIS are these?
Is EIS part of camera unit or is it ZTE development?
Does EIS operate in case of 4K and/or 60fps?
obladi64 said:
How many axis OIS and EIS are these?
Is EIS part of camera unit or is it ZTE development?
Does EIS operate in case of 4K and/or 60fps?
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I don't know as in the UK it's still not released yet
OIS is hardware and EIS is the electronic image stabilisation in the software. It looks floating like an iPhone or Samsung s7 but I would compare it more to the iPhone 6s plus but as someone already commented it is hunting for focus too much. Let's hope we can lock focus at least until they release the promised updates.....lol. Zte updating a phone. I think we will have more luck with custom roms if they unlock the bootloader!
The OIS is performing so well wow. Some of the other videos show really bad performance, wonder if its part of a new update?
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I don't know as in the UK it's still not released yet
OIS is hardware and EIS is the electronic image stabilisation in the software. It looks floating like an iPhone or Samsung s7 but I would compare it more to the iPhone 6s plus but as someone already commented it is hunting for focus too much. Let's hope we can lock focus at least until they release the promised updates.....lol. Zte updating a phone. I think we will have more luck with custom roms if they unlock the bootloader!
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OK it is clear that EIS is software solution for the problem. I don't know too much about phone cameras but look at this article.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-announced-imx318-cmos-image-sensor-673495/
It is just about camera device alone and it says "the IMX318 supports 4K capture at 30fps and features electronic image stabilization to reduce camera shake and lens distortion", which means for me that software is included in the camera itself. Or?
Regarding axis I read the following meanwhile "The back of the Axon 7 is where you will find a 20 mega-pixel dual OIS rear camera".
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/08/08/zte-axon-7-first-impressions/
I suppose that dual is the number of axis because A7 has only one rear camera.
obladi64 said:
OK it is clear that EIS is software solution for the problem. I don't know too much about phone cameras but look at this article.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-announced-imx318-cmos-image-sensor-673495/
It is just about camera device alone and it says "the IMX318 supports 4K capture at 30fps and features electronic image stabilization to reduce camera shake and lens distortion", which means for me that software is included in the camera itself. Or?
Regarding axis I read the following meanwhile "The back of the Axon 7 is where you will find a 20 mega-pixel dual OIS rear camera".
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/08/08/zte-axon-7-first-impressions/
I suppose that dual is the number of axis because A7 has only one rear camera.
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The phone has both OIS and EIS, that's why the "dual OIS" part should say "dual IS". Both OIS and EIS mechanisms are built into the sensor module, but while EIS is performed on the sensor, the OIS is performed by the SoC taking the reading from the 2-axis gyro (haven't seen any specs indicating more than that) and driving the (most likely VCM) motors in the module.
The auto-focus hunt in the video is too much, hope it can be locked, it made me nauseated
No info on what sensor it is now that is interesting. Knew the glass would be cheap but that's the way it goes on a cheap phone.
Overall looks quite good to me compared to the op3.
The pocket now review found that OIS is not so good and if you enable EIS, it gets worse. In the end they called it ambitious but flawed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0FJCYKTcM

Google Camera on Le Pro 3 x722 - How good is Video recording?

Hi everyone! I'm new here.
I was interested in this phone (x722) because its crazy cheap for what it offers, but at the same time I am interested in a phone with a good video recording (with stabilization) so before buying I wanted to check.
I was wondering if anyone having the x722 and having installed a custom rom and the GCam port, could tell me how it stabilizes, in which settings (4k, 1080) and if its possible to record 1080/60fps videos aswell?
If some nice person around here would do some test and check if it stabilizes video well and can record 1080/60 it would be great.
Thanks a lot in advance! Hope to see some useful replies
I don't have proof, but people like the camera when they're using it with the modded Gcam. 60fps recording should work with modded Gcam, but it doesn't work normally, i.e. with the stock camera or OpenCamera, despite giving you the 60fps recording option. The IMX298 takes decent 60fps, nothing special. About on par with the iPhone 6. But I don't think you get video stabilization at all. You'll have to stabilize it yourself in Google photos or something.
Source: I owned a Zenfone 3, which has the same sensor.
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I don't have proof, but people like the camera when they're using it with the modded Gcam. 60fps recording should work with modded Gcam, but it doesn't work normally, i.e. with the stock camera or OpenCamera, despite giving you the 60fps recording option. The IMX298 takes decent 60fps, nothing special. About on par with the iPhone 6. But I don't think you get video stabilization at all. You'll have to stabilize it yourself in Google photos or something.
Source: I owned a Zenfone 3, which has the same sensor.
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The OP3T has pretty good electronic stabilization and uses the same IMX298 sensor aswell, so its definitely not a sensor problem in your Zenfone.
The LeEco pretty much has the same capabilities as the OP3/3T, it should be perfectly doable
I don't know, I guess the app would have to give you the option for stabilization. I just tested video recording on my phone and it doesn't have stabilization. I used Open Camera. I'm not rooted so I can't try the modded Gcam.
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I don't know, I guess the app would have to give you the option for stabilization. I just tested video recording on my phone and it doesn't have stabilization. I used Open Camera. I'm not rooted so I can't try the modded Gcam.
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Yes, I was asking to people that had a custom Nougat ROM + Google Cam 5.0
Could someone in general post pictures and videos taken on the X722 with gcam? I am thinking of buying this Phone.

S8(+) Camera OIS and RAW (for the clever people out there)

OK, this is quite a technical question so I hope someone can answer, when shooting RAW photos with the S8(+) is the OIS also active? I know when one shoots jpeg OIS is working but when shooting RAW+jpeg is OIS enabled for RAW?? I read somewhere someone said no, but that makes no sense to me... thanks

S10 plus HDR10+

i am facing issue with hdr10+ recording with rear camera.
i selected hdr10+ option in camera settings with low resolution but when i tried to make video with hdr10+ with rear camera there is no written hdr on on the s10 camera screen while when i make video with front cam it says HDR ON
on the camera screen.
can anybody help me how can i make hdr10+ video with rear camera?
I dont think HDR+ can be recorded in low res. I think it has to be the 4k or at least 1080p

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