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U11 video recording nitpicking

I've been using the Galaxy S8 Plus until I received my solar red U11 yesterday (glad I waited, it's very nice looking). Anyway, I am very impressed with the photo image quality of the phone (it is very comparable to the S8), but I have a few nitpicks about the video recording:
1) No 1080p/60 mode. I really don't understand why it doesn't have a 60fps mode when even phones from 2016 had it? It has 1080p/30 and 1080p/120 (for slow motion), so why no 1080/60? Is it overheating concern?
2) No way to turn of EIS in 1080p video recording mode? While 1080p is very stable due to its combined OIS and EIS, it also crops the view significantly when recording video in this mode (compare it to 4k, which is quite a bit wider but has no EIS). Anyway, the EIS is nice if you want that, but I think there needs to be a toggle or option to turn off EIS and have the wide recording mode in 1080p that is like the 4k mode. As it stands, there does not appear to be a way to change this.
3) 6 minute recording limit in 4k. I guess it's also due to overheating concerns, but why not just make it unlimited and have the phone's temperature monitoring stop recording automatically if it gets to a certain temp? Some people are reporting overheating stoppages even before the 6 minutes, but in cooler environments, we may be able to record indefinitely in 4k.
Things I DO like about the U11's camera though...
1) Photo app and quality are excellent. Nice Pro mode too.
2) Glad I can lock exposure and focus during video recording very easily.
3) Focusing pulling with the touch screen is very nice on the U11 (it doesn't rock back and forth when focusing like many other phone cameras).
4) Audio recording options are very nice (3d audio vs hi-res, and acoustic focus)

https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/

Conan1986 said:
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/
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Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!

Travisimo said:
Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!
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Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.

I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged

TheEndHK said:
Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.
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It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).

wilpang said:
I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged
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I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.

Travisimo said:
It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).
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60fps will come with one of the next OTA updates.
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Travisimo said:
I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.
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Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.

TheEndHK said:
Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.
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Right, I understand it's not an actual "photo" at the highest resolution, but I would still like the convenience of capturing a frame during 4k video recording like I can on all of the other flagships phones.

Wow I'm glad I found this post, I thought I was going crazy with the issues you mentioned, especially the cropped 1080p video! I hope they can fix that with the 60fps update, because it is really annoying.

Hi, 60fps still not possible?

vojta20vt said:
Hi, 60fps still not possible?
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1080p60 is being introduced in stock ROMs with versions 1.26 and higher.

Do you know if EIS for 4k video is planned? Thinking about buying the U11 instead of the much too expensive Pixel 2, but the lack of EIS in this case is a bit of a bummer.

Laggy 4k 60fps video recording

Hi there all,
I received my 6T 8/256 last week. I'm still in official ver 0.7. I've checked that all my videos recorded in 4k 60fps are laggy. They skip frames and do not reproduce accordingly. I thought it may be a buffer problem in the phone itself, and moved them to the computer. They are laggy per se, they're recorded with this failures. Let's say they lag every 2 o 3 seconds (only video, not audio), giving the impression of a low quality, under resources smartphone.
Can you double check this? Can anybody confirm this problem is fixed in next updates? Otherwise I will have to switch to 30fps, which is a real pity in the quality standard.
Thx guys.

adanyeva2 said:
Hi there all,
I received my 6T 8/256 last week. I'm still in official ver 0.7. I've checked that all my videos recorded in 4k 60fps are laggy. They skip frames and do not reproduce accordingly. I thought it may be a buffer problem in the phone itself, and moved them to the computer. They are laggy per se, they're recorded with this failures. Let's say they lag every 2 o 3 seconds (only video, not audio), giving the impression of a low quality, under resources smartphone.
Can you double check this? Can anybody confirm this problem is fixed in next updates? Otherwise I will have to switch to 30fps, which is a real pity in the quality standard.
Thx guys.
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Does not lag on mine, but I have McLaren edition

Me too
Lags on my OP6 too. Even the 4k30 results are choppy. It's been like this for months now, videos come out like crap all the time.

Video is running fine on my OP6T at 4K60. I also have the 8/256 variant. I am currently on OB17. Maybe update your phone to the latest OOS as I know they made a few camera updates between what you're running and the latest OOS (9.0.17). Or you could download a newer APK for the camera from another source. I believe the newer camera versions from the 7/7 Pro work on the 6T but have issues in some modes (Pro mode, I believe}.

dj_ooms said:
Video is running fine on my OP6T at 4K60. I also have the 8/256 variant. I am currently on OB17..
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Same. Faulty unit?

Same here. I think this is because of crapy camera app that needs to be rebuilt because it has bad algorithms botch video and photo

I honestly prefer GCam on this device. I haven't noticed any issues with it on the device. Even with recording at the specifications that you noted above. Pictures are also of much better quality.

trafalger888 said:
I honestly prefer GCam on this device. I haven't noticed any issues with it on the device. Even with recording at the specifications that you noted above. Pictures are also of much better quality.
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+1 for this.
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trafalger888 said:
I honestly prefer GCam on this device. I haven't noticed any issues with it on the device. Even with recording at the specifications that you noted above. Pictures are also of much better quality.
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Do you also use the GCam Tool in the play store?
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Elloco305 said:
Do you also use the GCam Tool in the play store?
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No I use the port found here with the config file that is located here as well.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2-beta/

Elloco305 said:
Do you also use the GCam Tool in the play store?
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I use the GCam Tool from the Play Store. I use it mainly to stop the multiple subfolders created when taking portrait photos but it can also be used to flip/mirror the front camera images if the camera app you use doesn't offer the option (some combinations of GCam and Custom ROMs need to have the flip option enabled to correct the images).
trafalger888 said:
I honestly prefer GCam on this device. I haven't noticed any issues with it on the device. Even with recording at the specifications that you noted above. Pictures are also of much better quality.
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I am quite certain GCam doesn't support 4K60 on the OP6T, only 4K30 max. I may be wrong, so apologies if I am.

dj_ooms said:
I use the GCam Tool from the Play Store. I use it mainly to stop the multiple subfolders created when taking portrait photos but it can also be used to flip/mirror the front camera images if the camera app you use doesn't offer the option (some combinations of GCam and Custom ROMs need to have the flip option enabled to correct the images).
I am quite certain GCam doesn't support 4K60 on the OP6T, only 4K30 max. I may be wrong, so apologies if I am.
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Hmm...I set the settings and it showed the 60fps icon in the corner so I assumed it was recording at that frame rate.

These are just what I have set with the config file for the beta. Seems to record and playback fine.

What is the best video camera app for axon 7?

I am looking for a camera app that can utilize the axon 7's 60fps at 1080p and 120fps at 720p, so far it doesnt matter what app ive tried (on oreo stock a2017u) every app only actually records at 30fps, ideally it would be something like open camera where I can manually change the bitrate shutter speed iso etc.
Im on the stock oreo rom but if needed I can install Lineage os, (but i would rather not)

foxtrotdragon said:
I am looking for a camera app that can utilize the axon 7's 60fps at 1080p and 120fps at 720p, so far it doesnt matter what app ive tried (on oreo stock a2017u) every app only actually records at 30fps, ideally it would be something like open camera where I can manually change the bitrate shutter speed iso etc.
Im on the stock oreo rom but if needed I can install Lineage os, (but i would rather not)
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Stock camera app? I haven't seen any other app so far which can actually utilize 60fps and slowmo. It's ZTE's fault for their weird camera driver programming.

GodOfPsychos said:
Stock camera app? I haven't seen any other app so far which can actually utilize 60fps and slowmo. It's ZTE's fault for their weird camera driver programming.
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the issue is that the stock camera app is just so... mediocre, to say the least, th camera quality is a sold 6/10 but could be sooo much better q.q

I wonder does it need Camera2 API?
I just shot a little test with Snap Camera HDR then checked with an editor app and it was about 43 fps but when I hard switched it to 60 fps and tried to shoot it failed.
It's still my favourite camera app.

RobboW said:
I wonder does it need Camera2 API?
I just shot a little test with Snap Camera HDR then checked with an editor app and it was about 43 fps but when I hard switched it to 60 fps and tried to shoot it failed.
It's still my favourite camera app.
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I couldnt get any apps to shoot at 60fps+ regardless of camera api2 support or not, I was experiencing the same thing with snap camera hdr, regardless if the bit rate was 20 or 200Mbits/s and regardless of encoder highest I could get was that 43 fps, even on 720p.

Hello
I am usin OpenCamera
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It has everything. you can change Bitrates,resolutions,wide array of settings.
IMHO must have app. For videos i choose that.
Check it out and let me know howw well i have have helped you and how this is the solution to camera XD (joking a little bit) But yes,its the Best in my opinion. i use it. (axon 7 4k at 80Mb/s is amazing...)

I'll be honest, Open Camera has potential but it's never good enough. I try it occasionally and then uninstall. It has weird eccentricities but the biggest one is often the preview is quite different to the captured image.
Snap Camera HD shats all over it in so many ways.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I have never seen better video recordings than on the Mi 10 so far. 4K @60 fps is gorgeous in terms of sharpness, colors & artifact handling.
The video bitrate @4K is at 38 Mbps.
At 8K it has insane 104 Mbps.
The stabilisation is also remarkable.
I wonder what the Samsung S20 devices are capable of?

AlexxAnders said:
I have never seen better video recordings than on the Mi 10 so far. 4K @60 fps is gorgeous in terms of sharpness, colors & artifact handling.
The video bitrate @4K is at 38 Mbps.
At 8K it has insane 104 Mbps.
The stabilisation is also remarkable.
I wonder what the Samsung S20 devices are capable of?
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could you try testing if HDR is enabled on mi 10 pro? try shooting a video of sunset or very high contrast scene, if you can try, plz provide a comparison between non hdr phone?

rellycooljack said:
could you try testing if HDR is enabled on mi 10 pro? try shooting a video of sunset or very high contrast scene, if you can try, plz provide a comparison between non hdr phone?
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At the moment I only have the Mi 10 at home.
When my Pro has arrived I will definitely try it out

AlexxAnders said:
I have never seen better video recordings than on the Mi 10 so far. 4K @60 fps is gorgeous in terms of sharpness, colors & artifact handling.
The video bitrate @4K is at 38 Mbps.
At 8K it has insane 104 Mbps.
The stabilisation is also remarkable.
I wonder what the Samsung S20 devices are capable of?
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I Had also great Results

Question to Mi 10 owners - how would you rate 4k60fps quality?
In some samples on youtube, I saw that 4k60 isn't fluid and drops some frames. The same it was on mi 8, but using gcam 4k60fps works quite well - much better than native cam app. Would be interesting to hear if somebody uses Filmic Pro / Mcpro24fps on Mi 10 to comment if there's some video quality increase and stability using 3rd party apps?

freeDom21 said:
Question to Mi 10 owners - how would you rate 4k60fps quality?
In some samples on youtube, I saw that 4k60 isn't fluid and drops some frames. The same it was on mi 8, but using gcam 4k60fps works quite well - much better than native cam app. Would be interesting to hear if somebody uses Filmic Pro / Mcpro24fps on Mi 10 to comment if there's some video quality increase and stability using 3rd party apps?
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Video quality is actually one of the best I have ever seen on an android phone (iPhone is the king of video in my opinion) at least on the main sensor (the wide angle is very, very dark and it can't do 4k60 on native camera, only 4k30 or 1080p60) . I'm on Miui.eu beta and, at least for me, 4K60 is very fluid. But is important to say we don't have electronic image stabilization at 60fps (at any resolution) so the video is gonna be a little shaky using only optical stabilization.
Filmic pro is incapable of using the wide angle or the macro lenses, only the main one (mi9 can use all of them with the last updates of Filmic Pro), but it can do 4k60 and 1080p120. You can enable OIS, EIS or even EIS+OIS on Filmic, but EIS seems to be doing nothing actually even if you enable it. Apparently it does not works yet. I appreciate the manual controls Filmic gives you, but since Mi10 already have a manual mode for video and other advanced options like a very good LOG mode, the only real benefit of using filmic is the higher bitrate, except if you want really manual precise controls.
Feel free to ask any other question. Hope I helped.

xLeonix said:
Video quality is actually one of the best I have ever seen on an android phone (iPhone is the king of video in my opinion) at least on the main sensor (the wide angle is very, very dark and it can't do 4k60 on native camera, only 4k30 or 1080p60) . I'm on Miui.eu beta and, at least for me, 4K60 is very fluid. But is important to say we don't have electronic image stabilization at 60fps (at any resolution) so the video is gonna be a little shaky using only optical stabilization.
Filmic pro is incapable of using the wide angle or the macro lenses, only the main one (mi9 can use all of them with the last updates of Filmic Pro), but it can do 4k60 and 1080p120. You can enable OIS, EIS or even EIS+OIS on Filmic, but EIS seems to be doing nothing actually even if you enable it. Apparently it does not works yet. I appreciate the manual controls Filmic gives you, but since Mi10 already have a manual mode for video and other advanced options like a very good LOG mode, the only real benefit of using filmic is the higher bitrate, except if you want really manual precise controls.
Feel free to ask any other question. Hope I helped.
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Thanks xLeonix,
Glad for your answer!
Interesting to know about the sensors availability on Filmic Pro. For Mi Note 10, I send request to devs through the app: information -> version x.xx.x (click) -> and press contact us (after that you will be guided to email, the app will generate metadata.json file and please write to FilmicPro devs to look up for possibility of enabling additional sensors. Thanks to Filmic Pro team they helped me and with latest update gave additional (ultrawide/tele) sensors option to use with Filmic Pro. Hope this would be with Mi 10's ultrawide camera too!
For 1080p/60 and 4K60, have you tried to enable electronic stabilisation through GCAM app (urnyx and burial mods)? On my wife's Mi 8 4K60 works stabilised with OIS/EIS via gcam. EIS works interestingly, but if there's not much camera movement, I would say the quality is fine. Also can use much higher bitrate without loss of quality (native camera's app bitrate is equal for 30/60fps).
Also would be interesting to see a comment from a person, who also tried the mcpro24fps on Mi 10 - does it let to use ultrawide camera, and availability of 4K60.

freeDom21 said:
Thanks xLeonix,
Glad for your answer!
Interesting to know about the sensors availability on Filmic Pro. For Mi Note 10, I send request to devs through the app: information -> version x.xx.x (click) -> and press contact us (after that you will be guided to email, the app will generate metadata.json file and please write to FilmicPro devs to look up for possibility of enabling additional sensors. Thanks to Filmic Pro team they helped me and with latest update gave additional (ultrawide/tele) sensors option to use with Filmic Pro. Hope this would be with Mi 10's ultrawide camera too!
For 1080p/60 and 4K60, have you tried to enable electronic stabilisation through GCAM app (urnyx and burial mods)? On my wife's Mi 8 4K60 works stabilised with OIS/EIS via gcam. EIS works interestingly, but if there's not much camera movement, I would say the quality is fine. Also can use much higher bitrate without loss of quality (native camera's app bitrate is equal for 30/60fps).
Also would be interesting to see a comment from a person, who also tried the mcpro24fps on Mi 10 - does it let to use ultrawide camera, and availability of 4K60.
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Answering your questions, yeah, I have tried a couple Gcam mods for photo and video (specially for night sight on front facing and ultra wide lenses, since Mi10 doesn't let you use might mode on front facing camera. It didn't let you use it on ultra wide neither, but xiaomi added night mode on ultra wide with an update).
At the moment, I have installed Urnyx and Nikita gcam mods. Urnyx surprisingly let me record 4K60 on the ultra wide (can't do that on native camera) but with no stabilization of any kind. And it freezes if I try to enable 60fps on the main sensor. Nikita let me actually use the main sensor at 4K 60 with EIS but it isn't even half as good as the native one, It's only a little better than using OIS only. Nikita by the way freezes when I try to use ultra wide sensor.
About mcpro24fps, there's not much to say. It can do 4k 30 on the main camera with OIS, EIS or both OIS+EIS. It can do 1080p120fps too, but for some reason it won't let me do 4K60 in any way on main camera. Mcpro24fps can use wide angle and macro lenses without any problem, but it can't do 4K60 on ultra wide, only 4k30 . Surprisingly mcpro24fps let me set the ultra wide sensor to 120fps at 720p, but it is really noisy (unusable) and the field of view seems to be cropped so it almost match the main sensor. So there's no use for it. It can also do 720p 120fps on the front camera. That's all I can say about mcpro24fps based on my testing.
If you have any other question, feel free to ask. Hope I helped!

xLeonix said:
Answering your questions, yeah, I have tried a couple Gcam mods for photo and video (specially for night sight on front facing and ultra wide lenses, since Mi10 doesn't let you use might mode on front facing camera. It didn't let you use it on ultra wide neither, but xiaomi added night mode on ultra wide with an update).
At the moment, I have installed Urnyx and Nikita gcam mods. Urnyx surprisingly let me record 4K60 on the ultra wide (can't do that on native camera) but with no stabilization of any kind. And it freezes if I try to enable 60fps on the main sensor. Nikita let me actually use the main sensor at 4K 60 with EIS but it isn't even half as good as the native one, It's only a little better than using OIS only. Nikita by the way freezes when I try to use ultra wide sensor.
About mcpro24fps, there's not much to say. It can do 4k 30 on the main camera with OIS, EIS or both OIS+EIS. It can do 1080p120fps too, but for some reason it won't let me do 4K60 in any way on main camera. Mcpro24fps can use wide angle and macro lenses without any problem, but it can't do 4K60 on ultra wide, only 4k30 . Surprisingly mcpro24fps let me set the ultra wide sensor to 120fps at 720p, but it is really noisy (unusable) and the field of view seems to be cropped so it almost match the main sensor. So there's no use for it. It can also do 720p 120fps on the front camera. That's all I can say about mcpro24fps based on my testing.
If you have any other question, feel free to ask. Hope I helped!
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That was really helpful, thanks xLeonix. Quite surprised to see you use all the video recording apps as well!
Interesting that with Urnyx you can record with ultrawide! Nice!

By the way, they just added support for the Macro and Ultra wide lenses on Filmic Pro's lastest update.

Gcam video recorder BETTER than samsung stock one!

I have discovered something shocking. If you use the stock camera 1080p on stock camera app, it feels like its 480p, and the 4k feels a bit more like 720p. Well i have discovered somethign weird. On any gcam when you press and hold the camera button when ur in photo mode, it takes a video. Well i have realised that the video it takes is differnt than if you took it with the video option and not the video option on the photo option. The one where you hold the shuter, the quality is MUCH MORE better over stock or anything. I dont really know how this works lol can someone pls explain. Im posting screenshots here.
The screenshots below are samsung 1080p vs gcam 720p. Gcam wins by a long shot. And if you put sammy to 4k gcam still wins at 720p somehow. Just amazing.

What gcam mod are you using? I've been looking for something that will work fine for the A70 for a while now.