Since it has a titanium body, it looks like Wireless charging will be missed
Or will it?
It look like it has a charging pad, BUT it looks like it will a magnetic connector will allow Qi-ish like charging where you lay it down without having to connect a usb cable, but the back docking pins will charge the phone. When charged you just pick it up and go without having to disconnect anything, WHICH I FREAKING LOVE ABOUT MY QI wireless charging right now with my Nexus 6.
The back is ceramic, not titanium. So it could work, and does work, but you need to connect with their pins for the phone to recognize the pad. It's wireless but I think without the pins it doesn't work. We will have to wait and see..
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Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.
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Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.
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Just buy a cheap $15 Bluetooth aux. No more wires in my car, besides the charger if I need it.
You know, The phone supports Wireless USB. How exactly do you suppose they accomplish that? Its already been stated by Andy that the two connection points are magnetic for aligning accessories. Now, I don't think anyone knows for SURE how this phone's tech actually works yet. Since Andy went on record to say this tech will be open source, who is to say this wireless communication couldn't support Qi charging with a software update. It's entirely possible that this phone supports that out of the box. Really I am not confident that this could be answered with a " yes it does" or "no it does not" quite yet. Unless I am uninformed? can anyone else chime in?
EDIT** pins do provide power infact too.
When the phone website first launched there was an accessory for a wireless charging dock that said coming soon..... It's not there anymore. I thought it was supposed to transmit power thru the connector pins. But maybe the pins only transfer power from phone to accessory not accessory to phone.
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When the phone website first launched there was an accessory for a wireless charging dock that said coming soon..... It's not there anymore.
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It is still there, when scrolling down the webpage. The image is of the phone lowering to rest in plate charger, to get juice via the two pins on back of phone.
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It is still there, when scrolling down the webpage. The image is of the phone lowering to rest in plate charger, to get juice via the two pins on back of phone.
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Your right.... It is still there....I overlooked it. Well I'm not really sure why every review says there's no wireless charging. Assuming this dock actually comes out.... It is charging without a cord/wire... Which is essentially wireless charging. It's just not qi wireless charging technology.... It could basically be described as proprietary wireless charging.
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Since there's no headphone jack, it would be nice if there were a way to charge the phone and have a 3.5 mm jack plugged in to the USB jack at the same time. Especially in the car.
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I was reading an interview and Andy indicated one of the next adapters for the phone after the camera is car audio integration.
I wonder what that is?
My BMW uses USB storage so I don't even bother with the phone.
tech_head said:
I was reading an interview and Andy indicated one of the next adapters for the phone after the camera is car audio integration.
I wonder what that is?
My BMW uses USB storage so I don't even bother with the phone.
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It will be interesting to see what they do with the adapters. If they do that, I hope it includes a 3.5mm jack. For a lot of people that's still the only way they have to tap into their car audio system.
I am pretty sure the 2 pins are just for power, and any wireless bit is through the 60hz system which is more than likely data only.
So no Wireless charging parse', but with the dock, it has fancy pin charging lol.
I do also look forward to seeing what else they use that expansion ability for. Heck If they wanted to add a headphone port to the phone how easy would it be to just build a slim plate that attached to it that barely is thicker than the port itself, but is a bit wider to include a nice DAC and AMP? Doesn't take up the USB port for charging and could have really good audio to boot. The possibilities are endless and unlike some of the other modular designs, this one seems to make good sense and not be an eyesore when not in use.
Wireless data transfer and wireless charging are not even remotely the same thing. Data transfer is radio waves with a transmitter and receiver. Qi charging is electromagnetic induction (a magnetic field around a coil of wire will induce a voltage in the wire).
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Anyone find a source for USB extension cables for the Touch Pro? I want to run a cable in my car from my touch pro mount to the center counsle where I will have the audio dongle. which will branch off to a charger and line out to my Aux in. Otherwise I have to have the exposed audio adapter and then two cables running out of that instead of the one single extension cable I want to run to the center console. Really hoping I don't have to build my own.
I suspect this will be hard to find, considering it's not just a standard mini USB cable.
I like the idea behind it though. I was thinking about the same type of thing in my car and I'm waiting on getting a couple different docks so I can see if they will fit my needs once I rip them apart.
You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
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You need an extUSB extension cable. It should be around $10-$30. Depends on where you get it from. I'm thinking try eBay/expansys-usa/htc store
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Been looking at all the normal sources, the problem is I need it to end in the same female plug that is in the Touch Pro (so I can plug the audio dongle into it). Having zero luck finding it.
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
darfri said:
I have to disappoint you: if you connect both the audio and the charger from your car, you'll get a loud noise because of lack of grounding in car
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Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
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Easily fixable:Ground loop Isolator http://www.crutchfield.com/p_127SNI135/PAC-SNI-1-3-5-Noise-Filter.html?search=ground+loop&tp=2653
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Does it work?
3in1 11 PIN ExtUSB Earphone Handsfree Adapter for HTC
Finally appeared on eBay what I was looking for a long time!!
I think that is the same that you are looking for!
http://cgi.ebay.com/3in1-11-PIN-Ext...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item3cabfd9d0b
Now I will not have a lot of wires apparent in the dashboard of my car!
not yet tested, I just bought!
I can't seem to locate the thread I saw a while back regarding someone wanting an extension cable for the T.V. out USB dongle for a Fuze.
I also wanted to port into my car's radio (touchscreen w/audio & video in/out jacks) and also supply power without having a tangle of wires. The t.v. dongle has a power-in jack on the side but that would result in a mess and I, apparently not alone, was looking for an 11 pin miniUSB extension cable. Seems nobody can find such an animal. However, during a trip to WalMart I found a car charger adaptor for Motorola phones with a 90 degree plug and a coiled cord. Not quite as neat as an extension would have been but with the jack arranged to point down the side of the dongle, the coiled portion can wrap around the dongle's cable. $15 and the search was over.
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I was probably the one looking for the cable. I have my Fuze in a cradle in my car and I have the HTC A/V cable plugged into the bottom of the cradle so when I slide my fuze into it, I get connection to my Avic-D3 and I can see whatever the fuze sees on the Avic screen. However, in order to keep the phone charged, I have to plug in another cable into the jack on the little junction box and now I have 2 cables and an ugly box hanging below my phone.
I have searched high and low for an 11 pin mini USB extension cable to no avail and the 2 different styles of A/V cables for the phone either have the junction box 2-3 inches from the end where it plugs into the phone (which is what I have now) or if the junction is at the other end of the cable by the RCA plugs, it lacks the charging port! HOW F$#@$%ing dumb are these engineers??? All I want to do is hide the mess behind the dash and have just ONE SINGLE CABLE running up to the phone cradle.
If anyone has any ideas before I start cutting and soldering, please let me know!
Thanks for such a GREAT site here and hopefully someone will come up with a solution besides cut and burn!
Good day to all!
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I just received an HTC Charger that I ordered from "Android Central" and the part that connects to the PHONE is not the same as the original that came with my HTC Hero... I am just wondering if it makes a difference or not...
The HTC Charger from Android Central works perfectly fine, I am just wondering why its different from my original that came in the HTC Hero box.
It may just be a standard mini USB. They work just fine, but they don't have the "HTC rounded end"
and in order for it to charge as fast as the stock charger it needs to be 1000MaH..or (1amp)
The mini-USB will work fine but may feel a little looser than the HTC version.
I have always wondered what HTC was thinking when they designed this? They sell a plug that won't go into anything else but an HTC phone and yet any mini-USB will fit into the phone's input.
I'm not complaining but it seems like if they wanted to go out of their way to have a proprietary interface (like Sony-Ericsson) they would have made it, well... more "proprietary".
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The mini-USB will work fine but may feel a little looser than the HTC version.
I have always wondered what HTC was thinking when they designed this? They sell a plug that won't go into anything else but an HTC phone and yet any mini-USB will fit into the phone's input.
I'm not complaining but it seems like if they wanted to go out of their way to have a proprietary interface (like Sony-Ericsson) they would have made it, well... more "proprietary".
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Yeah, I really don't understand why they put the slanty-bit at the right instead of just making it stansard mini USB. They have been switching to micro USB for their new phones (i.e. Nexus One, Desire, HD2)
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Yeah, I really don't understand why they put the slanty-bit at the right instead of just making it stansard mini USB. They have been switching to micro USB for their new phones (i.e. Nexus One, Desire, HD2)
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There's one big, distinct advantage of their special connector: extra pins.
These extra pins are used for audio (and sometimes video) output. This is critical for people like me, as I only have to plug in one connector in my car to both charge the phone and get audio into the stereo. You can't do that with mini-USB.
Mini-USB connectors should not be any looser than the HTC one.
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There's one big, distinct advantage of their special connector: extra pins.
These extra pins are used for audio (and sometimes video) output. This is critical for people like me, as I only have to plug in one connector in my car to both charge the phone and get audio into the stereo. You can't do that with mini-USB.
Mini-USB connectors should not be any looser than the HTC one.
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True. My car has a radio w/ an auxiliary input, so I use a mini USB charger and plug the aux into the audio jack to navigate.
HeroMeng said:
True. My car has a radio w/ an auxiliary input, so I use a mini USB charger and plug the aux into the audio jack to navigate.
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Thats what i would do..until i got my car (and stereo) jacked lol.....
Hey guys. I seem to be having a problem with my Android HD2. It seems that the phone recognizes certain chargers as USB. The phone allows the option to enable USB Mass Storage and turns on debugging mode.
Normally, this wouldn't be a problem since the phone still charges fine, except for the fact that it limits the incoming current to 280mA. The main charger for my HD2 is a powermat which puts out 1A but when the phone is dropped onto the mat it recognizes it as USB and limits the charging current to 280mA so it charges rather slowly. All the powermat receiver door is connected by is 2 pins. The little 3 pin interface that is underneath the battery door is where it interfaces at via thw two outer pins one for + and one for -.
I thought I had seen this issue on XDA before but for the life of me I can't find the article. I thought I remembered someone saying that you had to short something with a resistor to stop the phone from thinking the charger is USB. Does anyone know of this problem?
I have the same issue and looking for any answers. Using Android 2.3.2 on HD2.
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I've had this issue with apple chargers. I am guessing here but I think it is because the iphone chargers send some sort of authentication data to the phone as a measure against unauthorized chargers. See this link for more info
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
makes total sense i have heard of that its sort of a self protection
Yes, the new batch of apple chargers have some of the USB pins connected together to indicate that the device may draw more than 400mA from the charger.
It prevents my eBook from charging completely!
The only real way to fix it would be to butcher a USB cable to only connect the 2 power lines.
there are a few threads that talk about how to make some in car chargers NOT get recognised as a car kit, and that uses the same technique mentioned above, , ,namely shorting some of the pins. I assume the same principle will work here. You just need to find out which pins it is.
So, my 2014 Kia Soul ! got a new map update that included Android Auto. I love the functionality, but the Soul only outputs .5 amps to the phone and it isn't enough to charge it, I slowly lose a charge while driving, about 5 percent in my 47 minute commute. I've been trying to figure out a solution and think I may have based on this thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidAuto/comments/48e65c/way_to_fast_charge_with_android_auto/
if I were to get the same cable mentioned in there...
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-3-Feet-Cable-External-Drive/dp/B0047AALS0
And then put a Micro USB to Type C adapter on the end, I'd get a faster charge and have Android Auto still work, right?
Anyone else think it's worth a try?
Got any other ideas?
I should update this thread, I got the cable mentioned, really good quality THICK cable. I hooked it up to 3 different chargers, it didn't make a difference at all. Guess I'll return it.
Anyone have any other ideas on how to increase the charging capability?
I'm also trying to work it out. Although I don't have Android Auto, I have a headunit which is AOA2 (Android Open Accessory, USB audio,) and has an apparent power output at 2A on the USB port.
With Google Maps and Play Music both on, I'm losing roughly 5% an hour driving.
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Good to hear someone else is looking at this.
I'm trying to figure out how to hack the actual port on this thing to provide more power, you'd think we could do 2.4a, right? Or at least 2.1?
I use Pioneer unit avh-x8700bt and my phone is charging during using android auto. I use nillkin flat usb c cable. In fact 1 hour drive gives 14-15% juice. You can Google for this unit specs to check what are usb details.
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I don't think you'll be able to get faster charging with Auto - since it has to directly plug into your head unit usb, the only thing you can 'get' is the output from it. Not like you're changiner the lighter adapter where you can buy ones with different outputs.
masi0 said:
I use Pioneer unit avh-x8700bt and my phone is charging during using android auto. I use nillkin flat usb c cable. In fact 1 hour drive gives 14-15% juice. You can Google for this unit specs to check what are usb details.
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Thanks, I'm not going to swap to an aftermarket HU though, the one in this car is fantastic.
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I don't think you'll be able to get faster charging with Auto - since it has to directly plug into your head unit usb, the only thing you can 'get' is the output from it. Not like you're changiner the lighter adapter where you can buy ones with different outputs.
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I should have explained, in the Soul, the USB plug isn't in the head unit, it is an easy to remove module in front of the shifter. I've taken them out before for other modifications, and the wires are easy to access. I'm just wondering if there's a way to modify it there to output more power.
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Thanks, I'm not going to swap to an aftermarket HU though, the one in this car is fantastic.
I should have explained, in the Soul, the USB plug isn't in the head unit, it is an easy to remove module in front of the shifter. I've taken them out before for other modifications, and the wires are easy to access. I'm just wondering if there's a way to modify it there to output more power.
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Hmmm, it almost sounds to me like:
Buy a higher output cigarette car charger, rip it apart - but then you'd have to jump the electrical straight to the car + solder the usb connection to it and then remount it?
Yeah, I was leaning more towards that direction of thinking.
Any update?
Here are my ideas (view picture), though there are some possible problems I can't confirm. I'm currently using the 2017 Chevrolet Colorado 8" Mylink system and my phone is a Droid Turbo. I just ordered a wireless charger so I should be able to test that idea in a few days.
imgur.com/gallery/8HUKHTA
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Here are my ideas (view picture), though there are some possible problems I can't confirm. I'm currently using the 2017 Chevrolet Colorado 8" Mylink system and my phone is a Droid Turbo. I just ordered a wireless charger so I should be able to test that idea in a few days.
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Number 2 is what I was looking into but I really hate trying to splice tiny wires like this.
I do agree that the end solution should be wireless, allowing us to use a quick charger of our choice and having a small USB Wi-Fi dongle that you can plug into your vehicles usb port.
Has anyone gotten anywhere with this? I can tell you that I have my Nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi running in one of my cars with a Y-Cable. I have a 2.1 (actually QC2.0 but that doesn't matter,) charger plugged into the power side, and the data side goes into a powered USB hub. I actually intend to snip the power supply wires to the hub, so it can't drain the tablet no matter what.
I still ran into draining issues even after powering the hub, so I ended up using a cheapo microcontroller to keep the tablet charging for 20 minutes after the car goes off. This keeps the tablet topped-off. I'd be real curious if you could somehow trick a phone into quick-charging and data simultaneously.