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Mini USB to RCA?

Hello all, I want to plug my Tilt into my factory Volkswagen radio as an auxilary audio input. I already have the volkswagen factory harness that accepts a white and red RCA pair. I know i could go to mini usb >>>> 3.5mm stereo>>rca OR does anyone make a mini usb strraight to RCA?
cheers

Praygo said:
Hello all, I want to plug my Tilt into my factory Volkswagen radio as an auxilary audio input. I already have the volkswagen factory harness that accepts a white and red RCA pair. I know i could go to mini usb >>>> 3.5mm stereo>>rca OR does anyone make a mini usb strraight to RCA?
cheers
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Olympus makes one for the 780 which comes with a mini-USB-to-RCA video/audio cable. If it is the right one, check a camera shop.

The port on our Kaisers are called mini usb right?

no and yes the sync and charge part is called mini usb
but htc's own connector which also carry audio is called extUsb
look at www.expansys.com for a converter even if all you can get is
an extusb to 3.5minijack then a minijack to rca is pretty easy to get

Or you could get a SonyEricsson MBR-100. It will connect via bluetooth to your Kaiser for audio out and comes with RCA leads as well as giving a 3.5mm output for use with headphones.

tkalli said:
Olympus makes one for the 780 which comes with a mini-USB-to-RCA video/audio cable. If it is the right one, check a camera shop.
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Analog audio output on a USB connector is NOT a defined part of the USB specification. As a result implementations of it are manufacturer specific.
95%+ chance the Olympus adapter will not work with HTC devices.
The best bet is likely a ExtUSB-3.5mm + 3.5mm-to-RCA adapter.
Edit: Or an A2DP (Bluetooth stereo) to RCA adapter.

Im just going to go this route: ExtUSB-3.5mm + 3.5mm-to-RCA adapter.
thanks for everyones input!

http://roccstar.com/catalog/Mini-USB-to-Male-RCA-Cable-p-910
my search led me to this. if it fits the razr, it should fit a kaiser!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280098254181
The more i got to thinking, the more i wanted one. so i went on eBay and found one. In a few days i should have a new cable, and i shall tell you how wonderful it is!

douglastheduke said:
http://roccstar.com/catalog/Mini-USB-to-Male-RCA-Cable-p-910
my search led me to this. if it fits the razr, it should fit a kaiser!
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Yep, it will fit. But it won't work.
Entropy512 said:
Analog audio output on a USB connector is NOT a defined part of the USB specification. As a result implementations of it are manufacturer specific.
The best bet is likely a ExtUSB-3.5mm + 3.5mm-to-RCA adapter.
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I had a RAZR adapter lying around and tried it with my Kaiser. No go. Had to buy an HTC-specific adapter.

Schematics for video output cable

see post #7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2515344&postcount=7

What's in the box?
I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...

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I would also be curious about the box content it comes with...
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mbarabas, szerintem a csomagnak nem része a tv kábel, de ne legyen igazam, mert én meg akarom venni a pro-t
mbarabas, according to me for the packet not his part the TV cable, but not be true, because I want to buy it the pro

I'm sure I saw somewhere that it doesn't come in the box. I've just oredered one from Expansys.
Today is the last day of the Modaco offer if you type "http://mickey.modaco.com/expansys/getcode.php?email=" into your browser adding your email address after the "=" it will send you a £10 voucher. You need to order something else to push the price of the cable over £20 so I got a 1GB MicroSD.
So all in that's a the TV out cable and 1GB MicroSD card delivered for £14.19

HTC own website states that its optional, so its highly unlikely you'll get one in the box

My cable has arrived. I'll post the pinout when I get a chance to beep it out.

pin out
These are for the pins as viewed in the plug.
1 video out
5 video ground
2 audio right
6 audio left
11 audio ground

jwitham - thanks, updated first post!

Now does anyone know where you can buy the 11pin ExtUSB plugs from? I only seem to be able to find them on audio adaptors which, I guess, only have 3 wires connected.

I was watching unboxing video, there is not a TV cable in the box

not really what the post is after but might be useful for some people, here is the link to buy the full cable from expansys:
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=170917

make one?
The HTC TV out cable cost too much! ($50)
Im gonna try my luck and make one.
Ebay sells 3in1 HTC ExtUSB adapters for about AU$15 shipped (it does say 5+6pins)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370079511111
and Dealextreme have Yellow+Red+White TV-out cable for a samsung phone for $5 shipped.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5122
Should be able to use the diagram in post#7 and get it to work.
anyone see a problem with this approach?

i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.

JugglerLKR said:
i heard that raphael detects video-out cable presense, so there probably should be some king of resistor or somthing like that... we need to check that.
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yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter

Vladimyr said:
yeh, to check resistance between video out and video ground, as well as
between audio out and audio ground, for example, by some ohm-meter
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probably a terminator resistor of 50 ohms .. a piece of 50 ohm antenna wire will do fine ..
these cost 25 cents or less
as far as the mini usb .. its probably the same as this one motorola has..
im not sure if motorola sells these or if there are any to buy separatly.
just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.

da_jojo said:
just an idea : maybe one can convert this yellow rca videoplug (which comes standard with any videocard with tv-out) to have a miniusb plug on the other side.
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No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence

Vladimyr said:
No problem what to convert, the question is "how"
An ExtUSB-3.5mm jack headphone adapter ($5) has the necessary connector.
I just need someone to check the original cable of intercontact resistence
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I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.

jwhitham said:
I dont think it is terminated inside the connector. The detection will be due to the internal termination of the device you connect to eg tv or projetor.
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I think you are right a tv has an composite input witch has a 75ohm resitance.
but your headset uses the same connection for his mic... for me a bummer but for you guys maybe the solution....
take a look at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
it's a pinout of the headset...
i just maked one for myself (actual a home made cradle) but it just doesn't reconize the cable, audio and charging works like a charm

Build your own TV Out Cable
OK, I tried to put the pin-out together. I don't have the cable, but I played around with the Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200 which I opened up for that purpose. Only when pins 3 and 5 are connected and not 4, the TP recognizes a video cable and askes for the video norm. When using these pins as ground, there is a humming noise and the video flickers. By connecting these pins with pin A, this problem is solved. I put the info on a figure... could someone with a cable and a multimeter validate it?
I made then a custom cable to work with the Multifunction cable. For this, a 4-pin 3.5 mm plug was worked on with a Dremmel (see figure). The plug needs then to be inserted into the receptacle so that the notch is at the upper left. Just turn the plug till it is no longer identified as headset but as video cable. The extra ground connection I got from a regular mini USB cable. Tested and works without problem...

switch should be connected to mic ground probably.. can you try if this works ?
connect 3 and 5 for video switch
connect audio plug [ ]=== ground - audio right - audio left
4 - 2 - 6
connect video (o) outer 5 inner 1

"USB" connector

I have previously made up very short charging leads to use with earlier PDAs and my Arkon car mount. Having just got the Touch HD I was dismayed to see the "non-standard" USB connector. I cannot find a supplier of plugs to fit these anywhere. There are plenty of cheap car chargers around claiming to fit Touch HD, but I wonder if they do? Do they expect me to use the cable that came with the HD? I don't want to hack that one around. So any ideas? Can I buy a cheap sync cable and modify that? Can I get the plugs I need?

I thought the same thing but it turns out the normal usb plugs fit the HD.

You can just use a normal mini-usb male connector, it fits the same way as in a normal female usb-connector, at least for charging and mounting the phone as harddisk on a pc it works. i think even acticesync should work, 'cause its a normal usb-connection it uses.
greetings
Seth

Well, even activsync will work, at least it work on my HD, you can even flash your HD trough normal USB cable. Check - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneFAQ.
Jakkuz

Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?

pastyman said:
Wonderful! Many thanks everyone. I already have a car and mains charger with normal mini-usb connectors. Problem solved
I wonder why they made the connector like that?
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I suspect they were considering some proprietary nonsense at some point

HTC Charger?

I just received an HTC Charger that I ordered from "Android Central" and the part that connects to the PHONE is not the same as the original that came with my HTC Hero... I am just wondering if it makes a difference or not...
The HTC Charger from Android Central works perfectly fine, I am just wondering why its different from my original that came in the HTC Hero box.

It may just be a standard mini USB. They work just fine, but they don't have the "HTC rounded end"

and in order for it to charge as fast as the stock charger it needs to be 1000MaH..or (1amp)

The mini-USB will work fine but may feel a little looser than the HTC version.
I have always wondered what HTC was thinking when they designed this? They sell a plug that won't go into anything else but an HTC phone and yet any mini-USB will fit into the phone's input.
I'm not complaining but it seems like if they wanted to go out of their way to have a proprietary interface (like Sony-Ericsson) they would have made it, well... more "proprietary".

watzone69 said:
The mini-USB will work fine but may feel a little looser than the HTC version.
I have always wondered what HTC was thinking when they designed this? They sell a plug that won't go into anything else but an HTC phone and yet any mini-USB will fit into the phone's input.
I'm not complaining but it seems like if they wanted to go out of their way to have a proprietary interface (like Sony-Ericsson) they would have made it, well... more "proprietary".
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Yeah, I really don't understand why they put the slanty-bit at the right instead of just making it stansard mini USB. They have been switching to micro USB for their new phones (i.e. Nexus One, Desire, HD2)

HeroMeng said:
Yeah, I really don't understand why they put the slanty-bit at the right instead of just making it stansard mini USB. They have been switching to micro USB for their new phones (i.e. Nexus One, Desire, HD2)
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There's one big, distinct advantage of their special connector: extra pins.
These extra pins are used for audio (and sometimes video) output. This is critical for people like me, as I only have to plug in one connector in my car to both charge the phone and get audio into the stereo. You can't do that with mini-USB.
Mini-USB connectors should not be any looser than the HTC one.

jonnythan said:
There's one big, distinct advantage of their special connector: extra pins.
These extra pins are used for audio (and sometimes video) output. This is critical for people like me, as I only have to plug in one connector in my car to both charge the phone and get audio into the stereo. You can't do that with mini-USB.
Mini-USB connectors should not be any looser than the HTC one.
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True. My car has a radio w/ an auxiliary input, so I use a mini USB charger and plug the aux into the audio jack to navigate.

HeroMeng said:
True. My car has a radio w/ an auxiliary input, so I use a mini USB charger and plug the aux into the audio jack to navigate.
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Thats what i would do..until i got my car (and stereo) jacked lol.....

Micro-USB Extention Cable + Slimport = Success!

If you're wondering if it's possible to use a Micro-USB extension cable with a Slimport adapter the answer is yes! I have successfully used one to connect my Nexus 4 to a Slimport SP1002 adapter, then connect that via HDMI to my Pioneer SPH-DA100 car stereo.The bulky adapter with its myriad of connections and super short cable to connect to my phone is now hidden under the center console.
I can't post links yet, to find the cable I used Google "angledcables" micro-b usb extension

Just curious, why do you use MyDP to connect to your car's headunit? movies for the kids? GPS?

karasuhebi said:
Just curious, why do you use MyDP to connect to your car's headunit? movies for the kids? GPS?
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GPS, and as a workaround for the poor audio output of the Nexus 4. Although the ability to watch Netflix while waiting in the car is nice, too.

theexgov said:
GPS, and as a workaround for the poor audio output of the Nexus 4. Although the ability to watch Netflix while waiting in the car is nice, too.
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hmmm... this didnt work for me with
Black 3 Foot USB 2.0 USB Micro B Male 5 Pin to USB Micro B Female 5 Pin Cable
by YCS basics
from amazon
but I'll order the other one and try it because it would be so much better if i could extend the slimport rather than hang that whole thing from my phone

it works!!!!!!
The cable from amazon did not work but the cable from angledcables.com worked! Even though the envelope says usbfirewire.com, they have different models of micro usb cables
I got the 12 inch version of :
Item #: RR-MCB-EXT-XXG5
and i can CONFIRM it is WORKING for AppRadio 3 as an extension between the phone and Slimport adapter.

I suppose it's a hit or miss depending on if the company wired the 4th pin through (Which is usually used for OTG) or not. Slimport uses all 5 pins.

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I suppose it's a hit or miss depending on if the company wired the 4th pin through (Which is usually used for OTG) or not. Slimport uses all 5 pins.
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After a few days I had to disconnect the extension because it makes things way too unstable. The slightest bump stops the video signal. You have to totally remove it and plug it back in before it works again. I might try a few things to fasten the connectors together but I might just go without it.

drinklime said:
After a few days I had to disconnect the extension because it makes things way too unstable. The slightest bump stops the video signal. You have to totally remove it and plug it back in before it works again. I might try a few things to fasten the connectors together but I might just go without it.
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Sorry to revive an old thread. Did you get this sorted out?
I'm in same situation. I just got Pioneer AVH-x8500BHS and SlimPort adapter to mirror from my N5 to the x8500 HU.
But the Slimport is in my glovebox, I want to move it to my center console for easier access and better GPS signal.
I'm afraid all this plugging/unplugging of the SlimPort will eventually wear out the cable or the N5 port.

Anyone ever figure out a way to get the extension to work without it cutting in and out all the time?

theexgov said:
If you're wondering if it's possible to use a Micro-USB extension cable with a Slimport adapter the answer is yes! I have successfully used one to connect my Nexus 4 to a Slimport SP1002 adapter, then connect that via HDMI to my Pioneer SPH-DA100 car stereo.The bulky adapter with its myriad of connections and super short cable to connect to my phone is now hidden under the center console.
I can't post links yet, to find the cable I used Google "angledcables" micro-b usb extension
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Hi there!I know this is old post,but can you please tell me if you remember,can you use de 2Din touchscreen by doing this or you also need to get another app?I am trying to get it going,but I have one Huawei Mate 20 pro and I have bought something similar to what you post here and is not working....any ideas?
Thank you!