Looking at the LTE bands, it seems to have the main ones needed for Verizon service. I don't want to buy the CDMA version in case I need to switch in the near future.
No. Bands may be the same but the radios in the device are different.
Yeah the one I been using the past month only worked with GSM sims. I been using a T-Mobile sim
It does "work" for LTE and data. You will have issues with voice calls though since VOLTE is packaged as part of Verizon's Advanced calling. If you HAVE to use it, set up a google voice or SIP account to forward to your Verizon number. That being said, wait for the CDMA version to be available to have full functionality.
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Hi All,
I was wondering if I could use my unlocked 8525 with Verizon's net work if I switched to them? I'm not sure about compatability of the phone with Verizon's voice and data services and was wondering if anyone knew.
Thanks
I dont think so. Att and verizon use two different technologies. Att uses GSM and Verizon uses CDMA. Im almost certain tho a phone that is based on GSM cannot be used on a CDMA network. The phone will work on TMobile or USCellular. They use a GSM based technology. Verizon Sprint and Nextel all use CDMA. If i am wrong and you can use the GSM based phone with Verizon CDMA then someone please correct me. But i am pretty certain you cannot.
OK,thanks. Thats what I thought
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
mistadj16 said:
Verizon does not have sim cards, is that correct?
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Not that I've ever seen.
I know sprint phones have sim card slots, but they are not used, at least in the USA.
My guess is that CDMA phones can be used in the same way as GSM phones as far as switching sims to use different carriers, but the CDMA carriers in the 'states don't use that functionality (probably to keep a tighter grip on their sucke....customers and wring more money from them through phone sales/upgrades and extra services, like a data service to put on extra ring tones )
I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
CDMA and GSM phones are totally different. The only SIM based verizon phone that Ive seen its the Blackberry 8300 its world edition soo it can bu used through a cdma and also a GSM carrier. I would be interested if anyone knows how to say make a sprint phone capable of being on verizons network. That would be something different.
actually a sprint phone is capable of being used on verison network any cdma phone is. in short the way cdma works the subscriber info is assigned to the phone's esn by the carrier so only the carrier can change your phone with gsm the sim (Subscriber Identity Module) holds the subscriber info and it is assigned to a sim card id not a esn (electronic serial number) so all you have to do to get a sprint phone to work for verizon is get verizon to let it (GOOD LUCK WITH THAT) you would have better luck the other way around verizon is the pickiest co out there when it comes to network integrity and security issues they seem to think that letting people use any phone they want could somehow hurt their network
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I know that I don't know much about these phones, but what of the setting inside of Settings/Personal/Phone/Band where you can select WCDMA as your network type? I've got an 8525 and it shows as an option, but I just don't know if anyone's tried it before.
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WCDMA is 3G. 3G on GSM systems is essentially a CDMA standard, but not the same CDMA as Verizon uses. It is not compatible.
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I got my SM-G900P phone Internationally and Domestically unlocked, and while I can get voice to work on a T-mobile sim, I am unable to get data to work.
I'm currently on the stock Sprint 5.0 rom, I have also rooted the device.
I have also added the T-mobile APN, and have the network set to T-mobile, but still no luck
I'm not sure what I should do to get the mobile data to work.
Wondering if I flash a T-mobile rom, would that brick the phone? And would that unlock the bands?
Any and all help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
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I know Sprint operates on CDMA while T-Mobile uses GSM technology.
I don't know if the G900P has the hardware capabilities to operate on GSM LTE bands. But it is interesting that you got the voice to work!
Try this page. He had a Verizon (CDMA) phone and got it to work on the AT&T (GSM) network. So apparently it is possible, and your situation is similar in trying to use a cdma phone on a gsm network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3291026
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I know Sprint operates on CDMA while T-Mobile uses GSM technology.
I don't know if the G900P has the hardware capabilities to operate on GSM LTE bands. But it is interesting that you got the voice to work!
Try this page. He had a Verizon (CDMA) phone and got it to work on the AT&T (GSM) network. So apparently it is possible, and your situation is similar in trying to use a cdma phone on a gsm network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3291026
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Thanks for the link!
I already had tried what he did previously, adding the APN, sadly that didn't work for me . And once I had unlocked the phone I enabled GSF and got the voice to work. But sadly that's the farthest I've gotten
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I dont know if this has been asked before, will this work on project fi?
The official list at the moment is only Pixels, Nexus 6P and 5X. Not sure why the Nexus 6 isn't still on that list since it was the launch device for the service. (I'm guessing the list is limited to what they officially have stock of.)
The US996 carrier unlocked model would be the closest match for Project Fi, but that model is missing all the Sprint bands. So would only work with T-Mobile's network for FI.
You can check all the compatibility of the US996 here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/WloNsJX/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/united-states
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The US996 carrier unlocked model would be the closest match for Project Fi, but that model is missing all the Sprint bands. So would only work with T-Mobile's network for FI.
You can check all the compatibility of the US996 here:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/WloNsJX/lg-us996-v20-lte-a/united-states
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That site says sprint's ls997 is compatible with all of project fi's bands... would it work?
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That site says sprint's ls997 is compatible with all of project fi's bands... would it work?
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Just because the LS997 from Sprint supports all the bands for Project Fi, there is no guarantee that it would be carrier unlocked to work with Project Fi and its SIM.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carrier-compatibility/lKrKFAZ/lg-ls997-v20-td-lte/google-project-fi-united-states
Just posting to add that my h910 LG v20 from AT&T does work on fi. The one guy who said that only T-Mobile would work is correct in my case. The v20 doesn't even have the type of dialer codes that are used for forcing network switching on fi supported phones. However I have found some use for this because I have an official supported pixel 2 from Project fi and happened to be a convert from AT&T and thus I had my old h910 to screw around with why the hell not? So to anyone who is familiar with project fi and is also the type of geek who frequents XDA, you are probably aware of apps like signal spy or Signal Info. When I was talking about dialer codes, those apps copy the dialer code to your clipboard and then you paste to your phone dialer which will then switch to either T-Mobile, Sprint, or US Cellular.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that even if your variant of the v20 does have the correct radios to work on the network, at this point I'm unaware of any way to switch between those Networks. That is not to say it is impossible, perhaps somebody can code something that would do that and if so please shoot a message my way. Also you may be disappointed when you find out that picture texting doesn't seem to work, or at least I haven't figured out how to fix it yet.
I currently use my v20 on Project fi very often. Anyone who has a pixel 2 is probably aware that one of the biggest complaints about the February update is reduced battery life, and so I often pull my SIM card out and stick it into my v20. Which does bring me to an interesting note if you are unaware, if you begun your service with project fi on a pixel 2 phone ....... Which does bring me to hun interesting know if you are unaware, if you be gone your service with project fine a pic so to phone.. You will have been activated using the SIM method in which your phone does not actually have a nano SIM inside of it. Now what you can do as a simple little life hack or whatever the hell you want to call it, is call and ask project fi how you go about ordering a free nano SIM. It'll cost you nothing and when you get it you can then activate it to the same phone number as the E Sim. However you cannot use the ECM and the nano SIM simultaneously. But it does allow you to have a backup phone.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using XDA Labs
Now that you can order a SIM directly from Google, will it work with Sprint model V20 if unlocked?
I realize it won't have the carrier switching but that's ok.
I too use my V20 with Project-Fi. I have the T-Mobile variant and everything seems to be working fine. The network switching will not work and will be restricted with T-Mobile service only.. Also, you will be unable to do Wi-Fi calling. Seems to be restricted on non Project-Fi phones. As far as MMS, I've used it only with Hangouts. I like to keep all my conversations synced across devices. I can try MMS via the stock messaging app and see if it works. If data doesn't work, you can try the following APN settings:
Open the Settings app on your device.
Tap More (under Wireless & Networks).
Tap Cellular networks and then Access Point Names.
Tap + (at the top of the screen).
Tap Name and enter "Project Fi".
Tap APN and enter "h2g2".
Save.
Go back to the previous page.
Select Project Fi from the list.
Hope this helps.
hi, I have LGVv20 ATT version, its unlocked. If i use google fi sim, will it work? and switch?
I am trying to not spend a lot on V35. thank you very much
So I got my unlocked T-Mobile [d801] G2 working on Verizon 4G LTE. I just can't make calls or send SMS. Is this because it has to go over CDMA or something?
I'm still using the T-mobile ROM. Vzw LTE works fine - like hangouts phone calls and web sites.
Just curious about this.
I'm going to the UK (London) soon, I don't expect to have 4G but I should get 3G on the 2100MHz band according to "willmyphonework".
Does Verizon require you to call in and register the phone imei?
No I just had to add the APN info and "register" on the network via the phone. I had some issues with the LG G2 due to its poor radio, but that doesn't represent the entire process which is usually quick and easy.
I've got an old LS997 which was my daily driver a few years ago on Sprint. Not anymore and now our new plan is under T mobile. I flashed the LS997 version of /e/OS to it (a de-googled version of LineageOS) and it seems to work fine, except poor reception compared to my newer Pixel 4A (which has newer LTE and NR-NSA modem and maybe better SNR? not sure...)
Importantly, call and SMS do not work. It would be cool if these could be made to work so this phone could be used as a backup. T-mobile does not give their blessing, they claim it is not supported. Why is it so? LTE is GSM technology, and LTE data works as well as it did when it was sprint years ago, shouldn't SMS and calling work over VoLTE? and hell if T mobile adopted Sprint's network, they should have kept support for CDMA in addition to GSM phones to maximize the number of supported devices and minimize barriers to Sprint customers when said customers transition over from team yellow to magenta.
I played with the following settings:
* configuring the APN as per the official guide.
* tried a few random selections under "preferred network type" currently have the most inclusive option selected. (NR/LTE/TDSCDMA/CDMA/EvDo/GSM/WCDMA
* CDMA Subscription selection, tried both RUIM/SIM and NV
I suspect it simply will not work because it is in fact an LS997, and does not support the bands and technology the T-Mobile network uses. Since they are GSM and Sprint was CDMA, and my vague non-technical understanding is that Sprint used some bodgy CMDA bull**** for voice and SMS and GSM technology for data. though that would explain why mobile network state is disconnected and mobile voice network type is unknown, while mobile data network type is LTE and works fine.
Dumb question, what would happen if I were to do the forbidden thing: flash US996 bootloader and ROM to this device? or deliberately overwrite the radio.img? Something about there not being KYZ files for the LS997 variant means no going back but hey Sprint doesn't exist anymore so who cares. Worst case my almost useless phone would be bricked, though I do sometimes use it on the side as a sort of tablet and to record videos so it would be ashame to completely destroy it, but seeing the phone can be had well under $100... meh.
Is it possible to do this acknologing there is probably no turning back and also there is a good chance of hard bricking?