I have been a HTC lover for almost sever years (Desire HD --> ONE X --> M7 --> M9) and I've decided to go for my next phone. Although the U11 looks like an impressive phone, I'm still a bit hesitant to go for it. Next to G6 and S8, the U11 sure looks like an ancient phone (I'm not a big fan of shinny backs and the front view of the phone looks awful in my opinion).
Not a samsung admirer hence I would like to give the G6 a try, but my only worry is how much is LG dedicated towards releasing the android updates. I didn't have troubles with HTC and I am sure Samsung will take care of this too but not I'd like to know how much is LG committed towards this. I do like the vanilla android but I don't feel like getting into the rooting business anymore (I'm too old for that and can't keep up), so I'd be heavily relying on LG OTA updates. Also I hear that LG UX has immensely improved, but would like to know if you guys think that LG will keep updating it's own UX.
Thoughts and comments are welcome, as I'd be ordering my new phone today.
Just got the G6 a few weeks ago, and as a first time LG owner I was wondering the same, I'm sure others will give more informed opinions but from what I've read LG are quite good at keeping us up to date, I've had a UX and a patch update since I got the phone which is promising.
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Only been using a V20 for almost 3 weeks and from what I've read here and the V20 forum I believe LG aren't quick, or even regular, with updates.
But maybe you've left it a bit late to be asking, hope you get more replies soon.
Edit: two conflicting replies already :laugh:
I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/
Here there are, more ore less, the major updates received by the G-Series starting from the G2:
- G2: 4.4.2, 5.0.2
- G3: 5.0, 6.0
- G4: 6.0
- G5: 7.0
LG is pretty fast to release major updates, but it isn't for security patches.
vizzzy said:
I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/
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The V20 was the first phone to be released with Nougat 7 out-of-the-box.
Not a lot has happened since then.
In my experience, LG has been quick with their updates. I believe my Sprint G5 was one of the first to get the Nougat update.
LG is usually first to update to newest Android versions (except Google's own phones offcorse).
G3 was the first OEM phone to get Lollipop update, G5 was first to get Nougat,...
We may not get the 7.1 update but I'm pretty sure they'll skip it because we'll be the first ones to get Android O (minus Google's phones).
I've had this phone for almost 2 weeks now and allready got 1 UX and 2 system updates so... They're really fast.
Really does depend? My G4 is fine for updates my G5 was more miss than hit!
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Discussion about the LG Android 5.0 update for our beloved G3.
How long do you think we will wait im guessing Jan or Feb next year!
Maby LG can surprise us,(not like bootloader unlock fiasco)
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I'm not waiting anything from LG. I had LG's best phones till now, the Optimus 2x and now the G3. They make awesome and powerful devices but they are crap at software developing. I bought the G3 for its hardware specifications. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to start working on roms, kernels, etc.... They will do a grate job I know it! So be patient and wait for the developers and not LG
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Discussion about the LG Android 5.0 update for our beloved G3.
How long do you think we will wait im guessing Jan or Feb next year!
Maby LG can surprise us,(not like bootloader unlock fiasco)
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Ask the developers on LG.
Probably a slightly faster timeframe to the G2 getting 4.4, which was the end of March. LG do seem to have stepped up their game a bit since the G2, but we will see. My guess is also Jan/feb.
I wonder if there is a 5.0 Lollipop Launcher we can install?
Hey quick question friends!
If i have a rooted LG G3, will i need to unroot before updating to the new android OS?
Probably should note that i've removed a ton of the bloatware as well. I'm hearing that i may need to have all that back to update,
and if that's the case then i'll just return to stock and then update.
Thanks!
I tweeted LG UK and they don't seem to have any idea of a timeframe for Lollipop. That's actually a little depressing.
I'm guessing not any time soon
I think on may or jun 2015
I don't think LG's software division is very efficient, and will take time to update their stock apps to material design. HTC's software division is great & they promised and update within 90 days so I'm guessing LG would probably take around 150 days(hopefully) which means probably some time around March-April.
LOL LG is utterly horrible with updates...
So I wouldn't get my hopes up for any LolliLove any and I mean any time soon..
If I had to guess. I'd say May... LOL or better yet after the G4 is released....
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In the ballpark of May 2015... Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if G4 runs 4.4.4. LG makes GOAT phones, but there sw Dev division is horrible... It'll also be interesting to see some of the more ugly stock apps being "updated" to material design..
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I don't think LG's software division is very efficient, and will take time to update their stock apps to material design. HTC's software division is great & they promised and update within 90 days so I'm guessing LG would probably take around 150 days(hopefully) which means probably some time around March-April.
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There is no reason that LG need to update its apps for Material design. All the new look will likely be ignored and the UI will be the same as it is now. All they have to do is make a working ROM based on 5, which is mostly about drivers and APIs, not the look.
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There is no reason that LG need to update its apps for Material design. All the new look will likely be ignored and the UI will be the same as it is now. All they have to do is make a working ROM based on 5, which is mostly about drivers and APIs, not the look.
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Ofcourse there is no "need" as such, but I'm pretty sure they will be updating the apps(which like I said with LG's software div will take some time). Releasing an L update without updating its stock apps won't do good for the experience & LG's standing especially when Samsung has already almost finished updating TouchWiz to Material Design.
With Material Design hyped as a USP for Lollipop, I don't think any OEM would(ideally) just release a stock ROM without updating its stock apps.
We will most likely see CM12 for our phone before a release from LG.
LG
we hope for custom roms
In custom roms we trust!
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In custom roms we trust!
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Yup !!! :victory:
I fully agree.
Android 5.0 may be available sooner than people think. It's possible that the reason LG haven't updated from 4.4.2 is because they decided to just wait for 5.0 and they will just go straight to that. Maybe. So I'm going to say late January/early February for an update.
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Android 5.0 may be available sooner than people think. It's possible that the reason LG haven't updated from 4.4.2 is because they decided to just wait for 5.0 and they will just go straight to that. Maybe. So I'm going to say late January/early February for an update.
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I also think so.?
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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That isn't official. Official is from LG directly.
This is so far away from official like seeing flying pigs.. Could be true or not.
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Just think about it. Do you really think that LG will say officaly: "NO NOUGAT UPDATE FOR OUR 1.5 YEARS OLD PHONE". It would be a really good advertisement for them! Lets be critical. It's the same like if they said: Buy our current flagship - G6 and you will get terrible support, bad build quality, bootloop problem after a year, you will loose all your date when we change phones motherboard, you will wait many days and finally you will probably stuck on 7.1.1 forever. It's almost on 100% that LG G4 won't get Nougat update. All what they need is to sell new models. That is what keeps them alive. Building a new system for almost 2 years old phone is nonsense, it is, it cost money. We need to earn money, not spend money. If you want Nougat, buy LG G5 or get G6. Thats it. But many people will buy from another phone manofacturer next time after this. LG is digging it's own grave for a long time.
We barely started March dude... If you had any Asus you'd see what's slow. Just wait and if they don't deliver too bad. The phone is not that bad as it is since it's a terrible chip
Wow LG seems like they really don't like the G4 considering they are leaving it on the same Android version as it's predecessor G3. I bought this phone as a budget alternative to buying the galaxy A5 2016 .... At least the LG G4 has good custom ROM support so I'll just install lineage os if LG really decides to ditch this phone. But I'm still disappointed to see this phone only get one update in its lifetime.
Edit : *only one major update
Also: even comparing LG to other companies like Sony... Their whole z5 series including z5, premium and compact just got the 7.0 update
luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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Until it's not from official LG sources, readable on their homepage or blog, i would say it's not official. It's just guessing...
Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
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Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
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So you're going to trust a carrier over the manufacturer?
The official line seems to be that the Nougat update for the G4 and V10 was abandoned as it wasn't stable enough for release. If you choose to believe any other source then I'm afraid you're set to be disappointed.
It's time to move on.
i imagine this on a balance.. one side how much they would spent on 7.0 development vs the other people moving away from LG.
what a re you toughts do they loose more money at developing a g4 that should be able to handle 7.0 asn the nexus 5x has nougat.
or all the people that will get angry and dissapointed. as we still in the 2 year update cycle.??
Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Agree
F u c k i n g b a s t a r d s !
I`m so sick of LG`s ****:
My LG G2 display not responding so I got LG G4 instead of buying a new display for LG G2
My LG G4 problems:
1. the BOOTLOOP
2. display burn in (ghosting)
3. battery after 10% phone dies
4. mobile data on and no signal = phone goes crazy touches all over the screen
5. the plastic back falls
6. and now no update for Nougat? wtf. LG?
The LG G6? I love it but after my history whit LG i`m so so so disappointed
sorry for the unorthodox words....
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
mulperi said:
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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its not our fault they f*** with bootloops. and it still in update cycle. and lame excuse about not beign optimized.. my nuts.
Shall we make a petition??? I dont know will it work or not.
The same thing also happened with my previous phone Xperia SP where they promised kitkat update but later abandoned it. So we (Xperia SP members) filled a petition but unfortunately I didnt change anything.
it looks like a prank to me. Of course you will all bite.
a new xda member just made his 1st post and its about lg never update to nougat ? lmao....
i could do the same anytime just as a prank. pranks exist because people that like pranks exist.
i had too much fun reading it
+1 to the guy that had the idea !
where are the security updates for january and february 2017 for V20 H990DS???!!!
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
yep they're taking way too long with the updates...
I have the US996 unlocked version and we are also stuck on the December patch, hopefully we get something this month!
Hope they are working on a new build... Probably 7.1 not sure... LG won't delay this much without a reason... But as a buyer ... Its irritating and makes me to think different
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I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
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H990DS unlocked also still on december security patch! come on LG!
I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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Yeah, especially considering the second screen doesn't work with aosp :/
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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This is true and I sure hope so! I mainly use the second screen for a night clock and notifications since we lack a notification led.
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
My previous phone, P9 Plus already have the Feb. 1, 201 sec patch. Come on LG, unlock H990DS and update V20 to 7.1 already!!!! Or at least the latest security patch!!!!
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
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My Lg G2 had at least 4 years of support before it went capput. That is good of LG at east, just slow.
The LG G6 came pre-loaded with Feb Sec Patch, and still on 7.0
keep that in mind, we wont ever get 7.1 , if anything it will go to 8.0 next
Feb Sec Patch For Ls997 is out there but it seems like it got pulled, either to wait for G6 to launch or a issue with the code.
Either way, id be safe to assume there wont be 7.1 for us, but a jump from 7 to 8.
LG historically has skipped the .1 updates and just gone to the full fledged updates.
No update since 2016 December. Hope they will release some update in april.
yeah we can start adding march and april to the title...
Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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yep, looks like the SEA version is always ahead with updates...
wondering if switching from TWN to SEA would be a good solution...
LG seems to put the V-series on the slow lane. V10 was very slow to get any kind of update. It is rumored they weren't even going to update the V10 to Nougat, leaving it as it is, but T-Mobile pressured them to update it to Nougat. I'm hoping they'll not let the V20 languish, but they're throwing everything at the G6, now, and letting the V20 become the "discount" phone.
No update yet for me. My phone is at V10d-AUS-xx.
Hi. I am looking at buying a G6 but I want to kow a couple of things first.
Firstly, how quick are LG with deployment of security updates for non carrier non US phones?
Secondly, how many years does LG support a phones OS updates before ending it?
I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
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I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
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I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
MuttleyMB said:
I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
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I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
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I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
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Up until a few years ago, Samsung used to abandon the devices themselves by releasing a few upgrades, even problematic.
Recently, the situation seems to have changed with faster releases of the security patches even for older devices. LG instead continues not to shine. Unfortunately!
I would never have believe a company the size of LG would let their smartphone business become so pathetic. My backup phone is an Essential PH-1 which is now two years old, first released May '17, and as of this AM I'm rocking Q Beta3 on a TWO YEAR old phone while LG hasn't even managed to get a supposed FLAGSHIP device (v35), released May '18, to Android Pie.
Who the F******* is running LG????????????????????????????????? What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!
Just unlock the bootloader and let the XDA community handle your business LG 'cause you obviously can't.
lg sucks butt
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I would never have believe a company the size of LG would let their smartphone business become so pathetic. My backup phone is an Essential PH-1 which is now two years old, first released May '17, and as of this AM I'm rocking Q Beta3 on a TWO YEAR old phone while LG hasn't even managed to get a supposed FLAGSHIP device (v35), released May '18, to Android Pie.
Who the F******* is running LG????????????????????????????????? What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!
Just unlock the bootloader and let the XDA community handle your business LG 'cause you obviously can't.
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LOLOLOL you should post this on LG site so they could see it and wise the hell up... they suck big time
When i was going to buy my v30 i was so excited to have a wonderful phone. But then i understand that lg is very bad at software updates. Still luv my v30. I've rooted my v30 and can do whatever I want
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LOLOLOL you should post this on LG site so they could see it and wise the hell up... they suck big time
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Give me the site and I'll post it! This is a F********g joke. If we had an unlocked boot loader we could just about skip Pie altogether.
True!! They are just making phones and ****ting on the users...sloowwwwww ass updates.. look it's the g7! .no look it's the g8! ..no look it's the v40! No it's the v50! I'll use my v35 as a door stopper soon. Lol...
jayshamar123 said:
True!! They are just making phones and ****ting on the users...sloowwwwww ass updates.. look it's the g7! .no look it's the g8! ..no look it's the v40! No it's the v50! I'll use my v35 as a door stopper soon. Lol...
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LG does make great phones -- great hardware, great features. The V30+ (128GB internal memory) especially was the best phone of 2017... They are just terrible at Android OS updates.
On the V30, they HAVE to give Android security updates at least every 3 months for 3 years. And they have pretty much done that.
And they HAVE to give all V30 variants PIE (also in the same agreement), but there was no date requirements on THAT.
V35 didn't have those promises in writing like the V30 did...
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LG does make great phones -- great hardware, great features. The V30+ (128GB internal memory) especially was the best phone of 2017... They are just terrible at Android OS updates.
On the V30, they HAVE to give Android security updates at least every 3 months for 3 years. And they have pretty much done that.
And they HAVE to give all V30 variants PIE (also in the same agreement), but there was no date requirements on THAT.
V35 didn't have those promises in writing like the V30 did...
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Here's another F******g joke, turns out only the Korean model G8 is able to flash Q Beta3 according to post on the XDA G8 forum.
Send it to lg ..i just sent them some advice that was similar to this ..unlock the bootloader