[Rumour] No Nougat (7.0/7.1) update for g4 AND V10 - G4 General

Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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That isn't official. Official is from LG directly.

This is so far away from official like seeing flying pigs.. Could be true or not.
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Just think about it. Do you really think that LG will say officaly: "NO NOUGAT UPDATE FOR OUR 1.5 YEARS OLD PHONE". It would be a really good advertisement for them! Lets be critical. It's the same like if they said: Buy our current flagship - G6 and you will get terrible support, bad build quality, bootloop problem after a year, you will loose all your date when we change phones motherboard, you will wait many days and finally you will probably stuck on 7.1.1 forever. It's almost on 100% that LG G4 won't get Nougat update. All what they need is to sell new models. That is what keeps them alive. Building a new system for almost 2 years old phone is nonsense, it is, it cost money. We need to earn money, not spend money. If you want Nougat, buy LG G5 or get G6. Thats it. But many people will buy from another phone manofacturer next time after this. LG is digging it's own grave for a long time.

We barely started March dude... If you had any Asus you'd see what's slow. Just wait and if they don't deliver too bad. The phone is not that bad as it is since it's a terrible chip

Wow LG seems like they really don't like the G4 considering they are leaving it on the same Android version as it's predecessor G3. I bought this phone as a budget alternative to buying the galaxy A5 2016 .... At least the LG G4 has good custom ROM support so I'll just install lineage os if LG really decides to ditch this phone. But I'm still disappointed to see this phone only get one update in its lifetime.
Edit : *only one major update
Also: even comparing LG to other companies like Sony... Their whole z5 series including z5, premium and compact just got the 7.0 update

luiferulz said:
Korean news; A Korean consumers' group criticized a recent LG's decision of abandoning Nougat update for G4 and V10. LG's reason being is; Because of the aging device's stability and reliability, LG decided not to offer Android 7.0/7.1 update.
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Until it's not from official LG sources, readable on their homepage or blog, i would say it's not official. It's just guessing...

Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team

braulio_holtz said:
Official??? you are crazy
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
LG V10 is already confirmed by T-mobile.
About the LG G4, no official info ... do not believe in support that often does not have communication with the development team
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So you're going to trust a carrier over the manufacturer?
The official line seems to be that the Nougat update for the G4 and V10 was abandoned as it wasn't stable enough for release. If you choose to believe any other source then I'm afraid you're set to be disappointed.
It's time to move on.

i imagine this on a balance.. one side how much they would spent on 7.0 development vs the other people moving away from LG.
what a re you toughts do they loose more money at developing a g4 that should be able to handle 7.0 asn the nexus 5x has nougat.
or all the people that will get angry and dissapointed. as we still in the 2 year update cycle.??

Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.

tmihai20 said:
Let's make dozens of topics with the same posts. It is not over until the fat lady sings. Let's suffocate this topic, LG deserves it. Wait, only users that actually look for useful information will find it difficult with all these topics. Just my 2 (euro) cents.
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Agree

F u c k i n g b a s t a r d s !

I`m so sick of LG`s ****:
My LG G2 display not responding so I got LG G4 instead of buying a new display for LG G2
My LG G4 problems:
1. the BOOTLOOP
2. display burn in (ghosting)
3. battery after 10% phone dies
4. mobile data on and no signal = phone goes crazy touches all over the screen
5. the plastic back falls
6. and now no update for Nougat? wtf. LG?
The LG G6? I love it but after my history whit LG i`m so so so disappointed
sorry for the unorthodox words....

I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.

mulperi said:
I must say I don't care much about 7.0/7.1. The g4 is working perfectly for me. What killer features would 7 bring? The upgrade to 6 did not bring many noticable improvements imho.
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if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...

neobdium said:
if 7.0 brings :
better battery life time
option to lower the resolution
magic focus
better ui
lower dpi
better cpu management to turn of the cores in idle
etc...
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The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.

heroutm said:
The most important thing is improved Doze mode and Vulkan support.
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its not our fault they f*** with bootloops. and it still in update cycle. and lame excuse about not beign optimized.. my nuts.

Shall we make a petition??? I dont know will it work or not.
The same thing also happened with my previous phone Xperia SP where they promised kitkat update but later abandoned it. So we (Xperia SP members) filled a petition but unfortunately I didnt change anything.

it looks like a prank to me. Of course you will all bite.
a new xda member just made his 1st post and its about lg never update to nougat ? lmao....
i could do the same anytime just as a prank. pranks exist because people that like pranks exist.
i had too much fun reading it
+1 to the guy that had the idea !

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(Discussion) LG G3 Android 5.0 Lollipop Update

Discussion about the LG Android 5.0 update for our beloved G3.
How long do you think we will wait im guessing Jan or Feb next year!
Maby LG can surprise us,(not like bootloader unlock fiasco)
Please feel free to leave your thought
I'm not waiting anything from LG. I had LG's best phones till now, the Optimus 2x and now the G3. They make awesome and powerful devices but they are crap at software developing. I bought the G3 for its hardware specifications. Now I'm just waiting for the developers to start working on roms, kernels, etc.... They will do a grate job I know it! So be patient and wait for the developers and not LG
tabenf said:
Discussion about the LG Android 5.0 update for our beloved G3.
How long do you think we will wait im guessing Jan or Feb next year!
Maby LG can surprise us,(not like bootloader unlock fiasco)
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Ask the developers on LG.
Probably a slightly faster timeframe to the G2 getting 4.4, which was the end of March. LG do seem to have stepped up their game a bit since the G2, but we will see. My guess is also Jan/feb.
I wonder if there is a 5.0 Lollipop Launcher we can install?
Hey quick question friends!
If i have a rooted LG G3, will i need to unroot before updating to the new android OS?
Probably should note that i've removed a ton of the bloatware as well. I'm hearing that i may need to have all that back to update,
and if that's the case then i'll just return to stock and then update.
Thanks!
I tweeted LG UK and they don't seem to have any idea of a timeframe for Lollipop. That's actually a little depressing.
I'm guessing not any time soon
I think on may or jun 2015
I don't think LG's software division is very efficient, and will take time to update their stock apps to material design. HTC's software division is great & they promised and update within 90 days so I'm guessing LG would probably take around 150 days(hopefully) which means probably some time around March-April.
LOL LG is utterly horrible with updates...
So I wouldn't get my hopes up for any LolliLove any and I mean any time soon..
If I had to guess. I'd say May... LOL or better yet after the G4 is released....
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IT'S OVER 9000!!
In the ballpark of May 2015... Honestly, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if G4 runs 4.4.4. LG makes GOAT phones, but there sw Dev division is horrible... It'll also be interesting to see some of the more ugly stock apps being "updated" to material design..
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I don't think LG's software division is very efficient, and will take time to update their stock apps to material design. HTC's software division is great & they promised and update within 90 days so I'm guessing LG would probably take around 150 days(hopefully) which means probably some time around March-April.
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There is no reason that LG need to update its apps for Material design. All the new look will likely be ignored and the UI will be the same as it is now. All they have to do is make a working ROM based on 5, which is mostly about drivers and APIs, not the look.
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There is no reason that LG need to update its apps for Material design. All the new look will likely be ignored and the UI will be the same as it is now. All they have to do is make a working ROM based on 5, which is mostly about drivers and APIs, not the look.
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Ofcourse there is no "need" as such, but I'm pretty sure they will be updating the apps(which like I said with LG's software div will take some time). Releasing an L update without updating its stock apps won't do good for the experience & LG's standing especially when Samsung has already almost finished updating TouchWiz to Material Design.
With Material Design hyped as a USP for Lollipop, I don't think any OEM would(ideally) just release a stock ROM without updating its stock apps.
We will most likely see CM12 for our phone before a release from LG.
LG
we hope for custom roms
In custom roms we trust!
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In custom roms we trust!
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Yup !!! :victory:
I fully agree.
Android 5.0 may be available sooner than people think. It's possible that the reason LG haven't updated from 4.4.2 is because they decided to just wait for 5.0 and they will just go straight to that. Maybe. So I'm going to say late January/early February for an update.
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Android 5.0 may be available sooner than people think. It's possible that the reason LG haven't updated from 4.4.2 is because they decided to just wait for 5.0 and they will just go straight to that. Maybe. So I'm going to say late January/early February for an update.
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I also think so.?

LG G4 Nougat update planned

Guys check out this link http://www.gsmarena.com/smartphone_buyers_guide_holidays_2016-review-1510p5.php
It says Nougat update planned
As far as I know GSMArena is the most trusted website for phones. I hope it turns out to be true.:laugh:
yeah thats still not official.
Phoenix854 said:
Guys check out this link http://www.gsmarena.com/smartphone_buyers_guide_holidays_2016-review-1510p5.php
It says Nougat update planned
As far as I know GSMArena is the most trusted website for phones. I hope it turns out to be true.:laugh:
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It's full logic that we have N ! :good: For a "recent" hight range phone , the G4 with v10 is the best recent of lg ...others manufacturers have planed the same for equivalent...
BUT !!!! They have had too much motherboard problem....and it's the worst manufacturer (after the horrible Samsung !!! The worst of the worst... ) for android deployment....
You love Android ??? Buy a Nexus !!!!!! Always updated...
There are the best development ,the best "pure" android developers (more and more move to nexus !!! Because orhers manufacturers and others LG are more and more locked encrypted,protected).......very easy to ynlock bootloader without problem...
Loulou-13 said:
It's full logic that we have N ! :good: For a "recent" hight range phone , the G4 with v10 is the best recent of lg ...others manufacturers have planed the same for equivalent...
BUT !!!! They have had too much motherboard problem....and it's the worst manufacturer (after the horrible Samsung !!! The worst of the worst... ) for android deployment....
You love Android ??? Buy a Nexus !!!!!! Always updated...
There are the best development ,the best "pure" android developers (more and more move to nexus !!! Because orhers manufacturers and others LG are more and more locked encrypted,protected).......very easy to ynlock bootloader without problem...
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Well in the future we simply can't go for a Nexus cause Google ended the Nexus brand. Nexus is only really good for the ones who love Android and want the fastest updates. Nexus have always lacked in some features which can be really important for some of us, like a SDcard-Slot, removable battery, also they have never ever been the best with their camera's, yes they have been improved over the years and yes the last nexus phones are pretty good if it comes to the camera but they are simply not close to be the best (My opinion based on my experiences). Also the new Pixel phones can be a no go for the most of us due to that they are ridiculously overpriced. I do regret going for a LG G4 tho... always loved the rich development for my previous phone the Nexus 5 .. Also the G4 really disappoints me after I have upgraded to Marshmallow LG Stock ROM, the 3D performance got really bad, scrolling lag, wifi that sometimes disconnects and bad battery life compared to the Lollipop LG Stock ROM and AOSP based custom ROMs. The only things I really love about the G4 are the camera, the SDcard-slot and the removable battery. I'm almost 100% sure the G4 will get Android Nougat so we will see what the Nougat update will bring to the G4. I hope it will somewhat improve the bad things about this phone.
@Loulou-13: You love Android ??? Buy a Nexus !!!!!! Always updated
Tell that to the Nexus 5 owners like myself. Everything is relative.
tmihai20 said:
@Loulou-13: You love Android ??? Buy a Nexus !!!!!! Always updated
Tell that to the Nexus 5 owners like myself. Everything is relative.
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I think google end up with nexus now..not sure
Sent from my Sony D6503 using XDA Labs
the end of Nexus glory ? end of his reputation ? damned...
Yes, there will be no more Nexus devices. I guess we had it coming since last year. No problem, the last Nexuses will become more valuable.

How good is LG keeping up with the Android releases and how often does it update UX?

I have been a HTC lover for almost sever years (Desire HD --> ONE X --> M7 --> M9) and I've decided to go for my next phone. Although the U11 looks like an impressive phone, I'm still a bit hesitant to go for it. Next to G6 and S8, the U11 sure looks like an ancient phone (I'm not a big fan of shinny backs and the front view of the phone looks awful in my opinion).
Not a samsung admirer hence I would like to give the G6 a try, but my only worry is how much is LG dedicated towards releasing the android updates. I didn't have troubles with HTC and I am sure Samsung will take care of this too but not I'd like to know how much is LG committed towards this. I do like the vanilla android but I don't feel like getting into the rooting business anymore (I'm too old for that and can't keep up), so I'd be heavily relying on LG OTA updates. Also I hear that LG UX has immensely improved, but would like to know if you guys think that LG will keep updating it's own UX.
Thoughts and comments are welcome, as I'd be ordering my new phone today.
Just got the G6 a few weeks ago, and as a first time LG owner I was wondering the same, I'm sure others will give more informed opinions but from what I've read LG are quite good at keeping us up to date, I've had a UX and a patch update since I got the phone which is promising.
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Only been using a V20 for almost 3 weeks and from what I've read here and the V20 forum I believe LG aren't quick, or even regular, with updates.
But maybe you've left it a bit late to be asking, hope you get more replies soon.
Edit: two conflicting replies already :laugh:
I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/
Here there are, more ore less, the major updates received by the G-Series starting from the G2:
- G2: 4.4.2, 5.0.2
- G3: 5.0, 6.0
- G4: 6.0
- G5: 7.0
LG is pretty fast to release major updates, but it isn't for security patches.
vizzzy said:
I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/
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The V20 was the first phone to be released with Nougat 7 out-of-the-box.
Not a lot has happened since then.
In my experience, LG has been quick with their updates. I believe my Sprint G5 was one of the first to get the Nougat update.
LG is usually first to update to newest Android versions (except Google's own phones offcorse).
G3 was the first OEM phone to get Lollipop update, G5 was first to get Nougat,...
We may not get the 7.1 update but I'm pretty sure they'll skip it because we'll be the first ones to get Android O (minus Google's phones).
I've had this phone for almost 2 weeks now and allready got 1 UX and 2 system updates so... They're really fast.
Really does depend? My G4 is fine for updates my G5 was more miss than hit!

LG OS support questions

Hi. I am looking at buying a G6 but I want to kow a couple of things first.
Firstly, how quick are LG with deployment of security updates for non carrier non US phones?
Secondly, how many years does LG support a phones OS updates before ending it?
I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
bodziec said:
I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
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I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
MuttleyMB said:
I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
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I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
bodziec said:
I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
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Up until a few years ago, Samsung used to abandon the devices themselves by releasing a few upgrades, even problematic.
Recently, the situation seems to have changed with faster releases of the security patches even for older devices. LG instead continues not to shine. Unfortunately!

LG Freaking Pathetic

I would never have believe a company the size of LG would let their smartphone business become so pathetic. My backup phone is an Essential PH-1 which is now two years old, first released May '17, and as of this AM I'm rocking Q Beta3 on a TWO YEAR old phone while LG hasn't even managed to get a supposed FLAGSHIP device (v35), released May '18, to Android Pie.
Who the F******* is running LG????????????????????????????????? What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!
Just unlock the bootloader and let the XDA community handle your business LG 'cause you obviously can't.
lg sucks butt
hooutoo said:
I would never have believe a company the size of LG would let their smartphone business become so pathetic. My backup phone is an Essential PH-1 which is now two years old, first released May '17, and as of this AM I'm rocking Q Beta3 on a TWO YEAR old phone while LG hasn't even managed to get a supposed FLAGSHIP device (v35), released May '18, to Android Pie.
Who the F******* is running LG????????????????????????????????? What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!
Just unlock the bootloader and let the XDA community handle your business LG 'cause you obviously can't.
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LOLOLOL you should post this on LG site so they could see it and wise the hell up... they suck big time
When i was going to buy my v30 i was so excited to have a wonderful phone. But then i understand that lg is very bad at software updates. Still luv my v30. I've rooted my v30 and can do whatever I want
jayshamar123 said:
LOLOLOL you should post this on LG site so they could see it and wise the hell up... they suck big time
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Give me the site and I'll post it! This is a F********g joke. If we had an unlocked boot loader we could just about skip Pie altogether.
True!! They are just making phones and ****ting on the users...sloowwwwww ass updates.. look it's the g7! .no look it's the g8! ..no look it's the v40! No it's the v50! I'll use my v35 as a door stopper soon. Lol...
jayshamar123 said:
True!! They are just making phones and ****ting on the users...sloowwwwww ass updates.. look it's the g7! .no look it's the g8! ..no look it's the v40! No it's the v50! I'll use my v35 as a door stopper soon. Lol...
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LG does make great phones -- great hardware, great features. The V30+ (128GB internal memory) especially was the best phone of 2017... They are just terrible at Android OS updates.
On the V30, they HAVE to give Android security updates at least every 3 months for 3 years. And they have pretty much done that.
And they HAVE to give all V30 variants PIE (also in the same agreement), but there was no date requirements on THAT.
V35 didn't have those promises in writing like the V30 did...
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LG does make great phones -- great hardware, great features. The V30+ (128GB internal memory) especially was the best phone of 2017... They are just terrible at Android OS updates.
On the V30, they HAVE to give Android security updates at least every 3 months for 3 years. And they have pretty much done that.
And they HAVE to give all V30 variants PIE (also in the same agreement), but there was no date requirements on THAT.
V35 didn't have those promises in writing like the V30 did...
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Here's another F******g joke, turns out only the Korean model G8 is able to flash Q Beta3 according to post on the XDA G8 forum.
Send it to lg ..i just sent them some advice that was similar to this ..unlock the bootloader

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