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R3A Camera Results/ Samples?

Could anybody inform me of the changes with camera performance with the new update? (other than auto flash and geotagging)
How fast is it to load and focus? what are the images like?
All reviews i have read are based on the old software, so wondering if those reviews would have been much better if using newer firmware?
Any samples?
Many Thanks.

Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.

A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow

phenx said:
Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.
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i like the one with HTC better the X1 got some horizontal lines
but i dont know :S i thin i will stay at the xperia Camera
artesea said:
A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow
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these pictures are never taken by the Xperia Camera xD

By the way, I was searching in R3A cam the self-timer / autotimer / automatic release, didn´t find it. Can anybody help, or is this basic function missing?

thanks for the samples, dont look too bad.
But 10 secs to take a photo is really slow! anybody else experiencing this?

after a softreset, speed of the camera is back to normal.. 1-2s

Really 8 - 10 secs to take a shot ???
1- could be the SAT link time
2- could be the flash charge time
I am pleased with the results, it is not a PRO camera: it's a phone with camera and I don't expect PRO pics
IMHO it makes decent (not "brilliant" or "great") shots
I took this one with zero adjustments, just grabed phone from pocket and shot:
If I need better shots, I take my cybershot with me

Is there only one camera working ?

Good evening everyone !
I really love the camera of the OP5, especially when shooting in RAW.
I tried pixter's lenses on my OnePlus 5 to add Wide Angle and improve Macros but I'm able to put it only on one lens (so there is a piece of plastic in front of the second cam).
Everything is good, and I tried many modes, all is working fine and this is strange...
So I decided to put my finger over the second cam (the one close to the flash), tried portrait mode, x2 zoom, manual mode, and I never saw my finger...
So is there only one camera working ??
Thanks !

The effect is only weaker with one lens.
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So the right camera is never fully used ?

Most is software.
Look the videos in this post.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/dual-camera.558141/

BiugEE said:
Most is software.
Look the videos in this post.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/dual-camera.558141/
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Ohh thanks, so it's only in good lightning

Time to take picture (camera launch speed)

There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Nokia 9 PureView can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm really interested into the shooting performance.
So any "final version" user please let us know how big the delay is between shoots when shooting a series of Photos.
Let's hope it's minimal!
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Signor Rossi said:
I'm really interested into the shooting performance.
So any "final version" user please let us know how big the delay is between shoots when shooting a series of Photos.
Let's hope it's minimal!
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From what I've read, the shots are processed in the background and there isn't any delay in taking the next shot. I'm curious about the buffer tho.

Itaintrite said:
From what I've read, the shots are processed in the background and there isn't any delay in taking the next shot. I'm curious about the buffer tho.
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Read this too the other day. Let's hope the buffer is large enough to cover 4-5 shoots.
I guess processing will take 4 - 8 seconds per picture. This would not surprise me.
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The processing time differs based on the scene, and which settings are active. I've had some outside shots take between 15-20 seconds to process, and photos with less detail involved only take 3-5 seconds.
With everything active, there's about a half-second delay between shots. Even if you keep tapping the button, it won't take another shot immediately. I haven't noticed any limit on total number able to be processed at once though. I think the most I had at once was 11.

Harfainx said:
The processing time differs based on the scene, and which settings are active. I've had some outside shots take between 15-20 seconds to process, and photos with less detail involved only take 3-5 seconds.
With everything active, there's about a half-second delay between shots. Even if you keep tapping the button, it won't take another shot immediately. I haven't noticed any limit on total number able to be processed at once though. I think the most I had at once was 11.
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Thanks for the feedback. Am I guessing correct that this was on a pre series model?
Half a second delay is acceptable, I guess that's normal.
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Signor Rossi said:
Am I guessing correct that this was on a pre series model?
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Not sure what you mean by 'pre series'. I've had mine since March 1. It's the retail version.

Ok, thought you got your hands on a version given to press or testers.
Thanks for clarification
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So, I’ve purchased the Nokia 9 from and downloaded a compatible pixel 3 camera mod… Question, do all five-camera work as one on third party camera applications as well, night scape using five camera lenses awesome.

saddler2kx said:
Question, do all five-camera work as one on third party camera applications as well
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I can't answer for sure, but I highly doubt it. I think the app has been customized to use all 5 together and stitch the image together when all the settings are enabled. Since you can disable the extra stuff, I imagine it would only use the main 2 cameras when using a third party app. Seems like it's software controlled.

Then that is good in my view because I can use the Nokia camera app to access all five cameras for pro photos and GCAM using the 2 RGB cameras for great point – shoot photos (like pixel 3 xl)

Could also be, that you are using just one Camera.
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HMD seem to have released an Camera Update to improve Camera Speed.
Any feedback?
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Signor Rossi said:
HMD seem to have released an Camera Update to improve Camera Speed.
Any feedback?
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I'll be checking it out tonight. Been stuck at work all day

saddler2kx said:
Then that is good in my view because I can use the Nokia camera app to access all five cameras for pro photos and GCAM using the 2 RGB cameras for great point – shoot photos (like pixel 3 xl)
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Can you share the link to the APK of the pixel camera mod you are using? Haven't been able to run one that doesn't force quit every time.

Got the working apk from Nokia Power User
https://nokiapoweruser.com/google-camera-apk-download-for-nokia-smartphones/
Direct Link To One I'm using
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ny6ulpiqih18ulg/Nokia_8.1_fully_working.apk/file

I believe the long processing for the photos is a Nokia app bug, because i was able to find a workaround. This issue appeared on my Microsoft nokia as well. The work around i found to get them processed immediately is after you take your pictures, create a new text message or send yourself a text message, and add the pictures you just took to the text message. You dont have to send the text message and you dont have to add them all, just one that is processing. then you can go back in photos and it will be done processing.

Harfainx said:
I'll be checking it out tonight. Been stuck at work all day
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So any improvement?
I'm unsure if I should buy it
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Signor Rossi said:
So any improvement?
I'm unsure if I should buy it
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No, the speed didn't get any better than before (maybe slightly, but not enough to really care/notice). They're supposed to be releasing another update soon. Honestly though, I doubt there's too much they can do about the picture processing time. With all the work going on in the background, I don't think they'll be able to speed it up much.
One thing I do hope they address though is the killing of background apps. If you take a picture with all the data turned on (RAW, depth, etc...), it seems to kill most background apps to free up space to process. That seems like overkill to me. Maybe free up a little space, but it seems overly aggressive.

Harfainx said:
No, the speed didn't get any better than before (maybe slightly, but not enough to really care/notice). They're supposed to be releasing another update soon. Honestly though, I doubt there's too much they can do about the picture processing time. With all the work going on in the background, I don't think they'll be able to speed it up much.
One thing I do hope they address though is the killing of background apps. If you take a picture with all the data turned on (RAW, depth, etc...), it seems to kill most background apps to free up space to process. That seems like overkill to me. Maybe free up a little space, but it seems overly aggressive.
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Bummer, well I will wait a bit till its fully available here and test it at MediaMarkt.
I was really hoping for a flagship AndroidOne. But an unusable FP and a crapy Cam isn't worth the price.
Sadly there are zero alternatives....
Thanks for your feedback thought
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Camera Update (Autofocus issues etc.)

Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
EDIT 23.03.2020:
Look at this video guys. Focus hunting is gone. Sorry, I have orange blinds and the sun was shining directly on those.
https://streamable.com/ckj6d

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
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Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?

ZayaanAhyaan said:
Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?
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I have just tested it with my own face at work in bureau using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.

Plz keep us updated on the auto focus issue

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
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I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.

Here are the details for the one with camera improvements
https://9to5google.com/2020/03/05/galaxy-s20-camera-update-samsung/amp/

VZTech said:
I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.
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It is the ATBM.

buddy66 said:
It is the ATBM.
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That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.

VZTech said:
That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.
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I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.

buddy66 said:
I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.
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Yes, that one. Hopefully it comes before my return period. If not, I'm sending it back.

ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most

Djapatos said:
ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most
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Lets hope so!!
As has been stated, ATBM is the one that everyone already has and it definitely did nothing for the camera.

Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..

so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam

neigo said:
so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam
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I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
EDIT2: This was already a Tier 2 answer and they do not know on their own when it is going to arrive because it is being rolled out without properly informing all Samsung Sites.

buddy66 said:
I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
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Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..

Virgo_Guy said:
Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..
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I know that support from such big companies is mostly not helpful but if they throw a voucher for something, then there is at least something useful you get if they cannot help. As I have written before, the other lenses could help with the Plane of Focus. Maybe Samsung will figure it out. Samsung integrated Google Duo so let Google guys improve the camera software :silly:

They're not going to be able to fix the narrow focus depth of close up images. Have you ever noticed that "fast" zoom lenses with constant aperture for cameras are invariably heavy and expensive? That's because they cram in several aspherical lens in there to be able to maintain the wide aperture. But on a camera lens, you can adjust the aperture if you want to increase the focus plane. The Ultra has a variable zoom with fixed aperture, so it's a trade off. They may be able to improve the focus hunting issues but I doubt it will ever match the speed and precision of the dpaf of their cheaper siblings.
For this reason I changed my pre-order at the last minute to the s20 plus. My subjects are typically closer range shots that are moving (my kids), so auto focus performance is important.

Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.

_Dennis_ said:
That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.
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That!
It's a feature, not a bug.
The culprit is fixed aperture.

Themes / Apps / Mods GCam 8.1 for Nothing Phone 1 with Config

Thanks to Wichaya for developing this version of GCam 8.1
After trying different versions of GCam for our Nothing Phone 1, I finally found this proper GCam file!
Tried different config files for days & finally created a one that,
Clicks detailed pictures without too much HDR+ or oversharpening
Very minimal color difference between Main & Ultra wide lens
External-mic works like charm
NOTE:
No macro mode
Slow-motion doesn't work on Ultra-wide cam. Will force close
HOW TO INSTALL:
Download the Atttached GCam file, Install it
Place the Config file in Internal Storage/GCam/Configs8/ Folder
Open GCam, give the required permissions, tap the blank space to your right of shutter icon
On the pop-up, choose "Nalann's Nothing.xml", Click on update & Restart the Camera

There is already gcam thread for this phone.
Gcam for Nothing phone 1
Dear anyone, please assist me to get Gcam for nothing phone 1. Stable one
forum.xda-developers.com

is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo

UserNamist said:
is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo
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It depends on who you ask. I personally love using GCam for the colour tones and styles it produces. I personally own a lot of phones including some from the actual Pixel lineup, and the consistency GCam makes on different devices Is just awesome.

UserNamist said:
is there any benefit to using Gcam though? Every phone I've tried it on just makes it laggy, with noticable delay between pressing the shutter and capturing the actual photo
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I have been using GCam on most of my androids, midrange to premium ones. The lag or delay you noticed may be due to wrong version of Gcam(not optimized for the phone's processor) or an incapable processor that was unable to handle those HDR+ with ZSL(Zero shutter Lag) or atmost minimal lag. It may be even due to an wrong config file.
Personally Gcam provides better details, specially for selfies. Also the color tone, skin tones will be more realistic And few additional options like external mic support, tweaking the image processing as per your likability through advanced settings etc. I was annoyed as i was uanble to use external mic on default camera app of nothing. And finally this GCam version of wichaya helped me out in Fixing this. Im using wireless mic to record videos and it works like charm

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van valami haszna a Gcam használatának? Minden telefon, amelyen kipróbáltam, csak késlelteti, észrevehető késéssel az exponáló lenyomása és a tényleges fénykép elkészítése között.
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Yes! Now the 1.1.4 farkkk up the UW(Oversaturated,oversharpened noise)
Nalkal!Thank you!! The uw and regular camera color profile almost perfect good job mate!

Hello, does anyone knows how to enable higher framerate slow-motion ? Apparently the camera is able to do higher than 120 fps but it crashes the app

Hi, is it possible to use slow motion with more than 120fps ? Because the sensor is capable of. Thanks.

BAd news at this point. It may change, Nothing has gotten back to me and they said that they are going to close my request(case) without any further help from them in regards to this issue.
I will sell my Nothing phone and replace it with another phone since their customer service has taken a complete downfall.
Later on today or tomorrow I should have an update about this.

rogerrulez said:
BAd news at this point. It may change, Nothing has gotten back to me and they said that they are going to close my request(case) without any further help from them in regards to this issue.
I will sell my Nothing phone and replace it with another phone since their customer service has taken a complete downfall.
Later on today or tomorrow I should have an update about this.
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UPDATE: Nothing has not followed up with my request. As a consumer i take this as a company who does not back their commitment, their desire to provide customer service as they said they would.
Therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Nothing phone, return back to OnePlus and take it as it is. They are NOT a good company to deal with since they do not stand by their products. Sad as it is, but it is.
Peace

rogerrulez said:
UPDATE: Nothing has not followed up with my request. As a consumer i take this as a company who does not back their commitment, their desire to provide customer service as they said they would.
Therefore, I have decided to get rid of my Nothing phone, return back to OnePlus and take it as it is. They are NOT a good company to deal with since they do not stand by their products. Sad as it is, but it is.
Peace
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haha , I just rid off OnePlus Nord 2 for the worst support , lack of updates , instable OS and so on . Nothing Phone is upper class compare to OnePlus

muppetz said:
haha , I just rid off OnePlus Nord 2 for the worst support , lack of updates , instable OS and so on . Nothing Phone is upper class compare to OnePlus
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I believed that as well, until this support request.