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The focus when close or macro is perfect with all smartphones (standard, Zenfone 2, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, ...) but with the Z3 Compact... look :
VIDEO:
drive.google.com/file/d/0B_nG40-uFJh7NUk0WTlMWTBjcVU/view?usp=sharing
Am I alone with this issue ?
Is it normal ?
Software or hardware ?
Can you try and tell me?
Thanks
I do not have any issues with close up or macro photos, they work perfectly fine, in fact, i find it working better then on any iphone or samsung ive tried so far...
bubimir13 said:
I do not have any issues with close up or macro photos, they work perfectly fine, in fact, i find it working better then on any iphone or samsung ive tried so far...
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Really???
Can you post a close macro sample of a key on your keyboard please. Like in my video.
Thanks
you cannot have the lens has close, but with the amount of details you'll still have a better macro than the older camera
this is because of the f2.2 lens
the z3 tends to indeed take better macro shots than the competition (yay! one thing the camera does sort of decent).. but yeah you cant stick the camera too close like you would with another phone. i know, it feels "unnatural" but try 1 more centimer away and compare the resulting picture instead
quick demo:
lens too close: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAOJA/qfnJKKFHX6Q/w1525-h858-no/DSC_1097.JPG
lens 1 cm away: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAOJQ/3eElMevMZ3g/w1525-h858-no/DSC_1098.JPG
/me goes clean this keyboard now
Thanks man, your pictures have the same "problem" of mine. So it's not a problem with my Z3C but it's normal for all models.
But I am a little sad about that because YES the pictures are good but when I see the PERFECT focus at 2cm with a 200$ phone... and my Z3C completly blur at the same distance... I don't understand.
I'm not here for know if the Z3C is a good phone or not... but only for know if when you watch my video (1sr post) and ou try to take the same picture thad me in the video, you have the same blur result ?
But anyway I saw your sample and you have same pictures than me. Thanks for help and taking pictures for me man
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Look! That AWESOME focus of my chinese basic phone vs. Z3 Compact at the SAME distance :'(
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If someone can try the same with money at the same distance and post result, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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you cant at same distance, other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens
since its higher mp it doesnt matter if u go back a centimer tho
bilboa1 said:
you cant at same distance, other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens
since its higher mp it doesnt matter if u go back a centimer tho
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So when you see my two pictures, the difference, you have (and all Z3C) the same thing ?
Nobody can with Z3C take a picture of money at the same distance than me in my sample?
other phone prolly has a f2.0 lens ? So the Z3C doesn't ?
Z3 has a f2.2 Lens
And nope cant take picture that close but if i take it further away and zoom it looks the same
I can take that pic on my z1c (f2.0 lens) hehe
Thank you
I've got a Huawei Mate 9 Pro with dual cameras and I must admit, the software is magnificent - so many modes and options. Bokeh is achieved through 'wide aperture' and it looks fantastic.
When you look at the OP5 camera software, you're feeling a little underwhelmed. It's shame because everything else is so good!
Is there an alternative?
I see there's "Camera MX", but I'm not sure if this supports dual cameras and the Bokeh effect?
Open camera seems to work ok lots of options to tweak over stock cam app
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DoobyDroid said:
Open camera seems to work ok lots of options to tweak over stock cam app
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But not sure if this one can take advantage of the dual camera or do Bokeh?
No idea how you could tell if is or not but looks crisp good enough for me I'm sure 1+ will be working hard to improve cam as it was ment to be there main selling point , ??
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But not sure if this one can take advantage of the dual camera or do Bokeh?
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The open Camera apps allows you to be able to capture and render 100% of the details, special effects like portrait mode .. unless they add it to the open camera source coude the app wont be able to reproduce the same mode..
Open Camera takes abit longer when taking pictures with 100% quality but the results is the quality is inded higher than the stock camera app, at least in my experience that is in OP3.
I am impressed by Open Camera. Less blurring and easy to use.
Try OP5 camera apps, its portrait mode is super
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72782695&postcount=9
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/themes-apps/apps-oneplus-5-camera-gallery-port-t3631645
Hi All,
It seems that the 5T has a low light shooting preference over telephoto and facial unlock.
Although the latter is not something I'd ever use, I was thinking would it be possible for the camera's on the 5 to use the low light functionality of the 5T? I've read that they're similar?
If not, it's not the end of the world, I've took some great pics with my 1+ but if I could improve low light then it'd be a bonus.
I believe the 5T has a different camera sensor.
If that's the case, it won't be portable unless you change the camera altogether.
The primary camera is the same, the difference is on the second camera. Now its nos a zoom len, it will work for low Light shoots because the sensor has a different aperture.
The 5 has de 1.6x len zoom, now on the 5T, all the zoom is digital
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Actually I think OP5 is doing the same thing (obviously with different second camera sensor) test yourself: open camera app, cover the main camera and obviously you will see just black, here is the weird thing: change to "zoom" (2x), cover the second camera (supposed zoom lens) you'll still have image then cover the main camera boom no image! So for 2x is just a digital zoom (a good one) from the main camera, and the second camera is just used for portrait mode effect
I think this is only in low light condition. Try this again in good light and it would work as expected
google cam with HDR+ will give you better low light shots
i took a picture of the night sky the other day and it actually turned out a beautiful picture. very surprised how well it judged exposure time.
We need to wait OxygenOS 4.7 to discover how many new features will arrive also in our OnePlus 5.
WaxysDargle said:
google cam with HDR+ will give you better low light shots
i took a picture of the night sky the other day and it actually turned out a beautiful picture. very surprised how well it judged exposure time.
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Focus on Google cam never works for me I've missed countless shots putting my faith in that
For the most part Google's Camera is awful.
Rhoban said:
I believe the 5T has a different camera sensor.
If that's the case, it won't be portable unless you change the camera altogether.
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Yep that's what I wrote mate.
Telephoto Vs low light I know they're different.. I'm wondering if the software can be forced to work with what we have?
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We need to wait OxygenOS 4.7 to discover how many new features will arrive also in our OnePlus 5.
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?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
I only need to know if the camera choice!! Low light over zoom can be transferred. In all honesty the second camera never works. Cover it an nothing happens.
In low light the second camera doesn't work, and it's better that way. With an f/2.6 aperture, it just wouldn't allow enough light in to the tiny sensor to be useful. This would be true even with the pixel binning technique the 5T uses for its secondary camera.
It's also entirely possible that there's hardware involved for that feature to work properly too.
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DorianX said:
Actually I think OP5 is doing the same thing (obviously with different second camera sensor) test yourself: open camera app, cover the main camera and obviously you will see just black, here is the weird thing: change to "zoom" (2x), cover the second camera (supposed zoom lens) you'll still have image then cover the main camera boom no image! So for 2x is just a digital zoom (a good one) from the main camera, and the second camera is just used for portrait mode effect
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Unbelievable bull crap from a senior member. This untrue.
Second lens activates in good looking lighting automatically, you covered the lens manually so it thinks it's dark and it will take the picture with main lens.
Best way to test is to test outside, I can visually see, how it's jumping from one lens to another when zooming. Also you can see whether it used the second lens from the photo details.
You don't need to be rude dude... Yes I'm senior member but I'm not a God that know how everything works, I just did that test and see that results, didn't know how this dual camera works. So I researched a bit and found what you said. My bad
Here's a video to understand how this dual camera works
Cheers
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Unbelievable bull crap from a senior member. This untrue.
Second lens activates in good looking lighting automatically, you covered the lens manually so it thinks it's dark and it will take the picture with main lens.
Best way to test is to test outside, I can visually see, how it's jumping from one lens to another when zooming. Also you can see whether it used the second lens from the photo details.
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dladz said:
Yep that's what I wrote mate.
Telephoto Vs low light I know they're different.. I'm wondering if the software can be forced to work with what we have?
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Not likely since you have to have a lower aperture (1.7 or so) a Tele lens aperture is usually higher and allows less light to reach the sensor. With this, it is highly unlikely to have a software update that will allow the 5 to reproduce the 5T's low light photo quality.
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Not likely since you have to have a lower aperture (1.7 or so) a Tele lens aperture is usually higher and allows less light to reach the sensor. With this, it is highly unlikely to have a software update that will allow the 5 to reproduce the 5T's low light photo quality.
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Cheers mate.
Thought I'd ask..nvm
dladz said:
?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
I only need to know if the camera choice!! Low light over zoom can be transferred. In all honesty the second camera never works. Cover it an nothing happens.
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OxygenOS 4.7 is not Oreo, is the default ROM installed in OnePlus 5T (OnePlus 5 has OxygenOS 4.5)
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OxygenOS 4.7 is not Oreo, is the default ROM installed in OnePlus 5T (OnePlus 5 has OxygenOS 4.5)
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I haven't said that the 5T does have Oreo ? Where are you getting your information ?
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I haven't said that the 5T does have Oreo ? Where are you getting your information ?
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You wrote replying me about OxygenOS 4.7:
?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
If you don't remember what you wrote is not my problem.
Hey, Hi!
I have a X727 using a Oreo Rom (AEX 5.4) and I've have tried some Gxam Mod apps, mainly Arnova's and miniuser's version. Both are great! And I get a beautiful bokeh/portrait effect with both cameras, rear/front.
Just a little issue. Using Portrait mode with front Camera, if there is much light or directly under Light/Sun, the results is a over exposed image, a lot bright and Burn. Some time I got a little bit orange face. This only happens with Portrait Mode and only with front camera. Using front camera without Portrait mode, I get pretty image, not issue there. Rear camera work perfectly Normal/Portrait mode.
My question is, its a front camera fault? If its a hardware/sensor issue, its ok for me. Any setting to fix this or can use another Gcam app? Already I used a lot of them with same results, so I think could be a some of tweak or play with setting... I don't Know...
Thank!
some of gcams allow to change exposure manualy even on front camera. try to lower it and see how it works. and clean the camera too ?
motanel_pufos said:
some of gcams allow to change exposure manualy even on front camera. try to lower it and see how it works. and clean the camera too
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Thank. I will try.
kukuteku said:
Hey, Hi!
I have a X727 using a Oreo Rom (AEX 5.4) and I've have tried some Gxam Mod apps, mainly Arnova's and miniuser's version. Both are great! And I get a beautiful bokeh/portrait effect with both cameras, rear/front.
Just a little issue. Using Portrait mode with front Camera, if there is much light or directly under Light/Sun, the results is a over exposed image, a lot bright and Burn. Some time I got a little bit orange face. This only happens with Portrait Mode and only with front camera. Using front camera without Portrait mode, I get pretty image, not issue there. Rear camera work perfectly Normal/Portrait mode.
My question is, its a front camera fault? If its a hardware/sensor issue, its ok for me. Any setting to fix this or can use another Gcam app? Already I used a lot of them with same results, so I think could be a some of tweak or play with setting... I don't Know...
Thank!
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I'm actually using the same rom and have played around with a few different mods. Did you settle on a favorite? So far my fav has been the Arnova pixelmod2 v6. It balanced features and speed for me (I prefer the pixel/zsl mode speed over the nexus 6 mode).
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I'm actually using the same rom and have played around with a few different mods. Did you settle on a favorite? So far my fav has been the Arnova pixelmod2 v6. It balanced features and speed for me (I prefer the pixel/zsl mode speed over the nexus 6 mode).
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Ok, Thank. I choose V6 too. Its more stable. About the Pixel/zsl over Nexus 6, I gonna try it!
Thank
kukuteku said:
Hey, Hi!
I have a X727 using a Oreo Rom (AEX 5.4) and I've have tried some Gxam Mod apps, mainly Arnova's and miniuser's version. Both are great! And I get a beautiful bokeh/portrait effect with both cameras, rear/front.
Just a little issue. Using Portrait mode with front Camera, if there is much light or directly under Light/Sun, the results is a over exposed image, a lot bright and Burn. Some time I got a little bit orange face. This only happens with Portrait Mode and only with front camera. Using front camera without Portrait mode, I get pretty image, not issue there. Rear camera work perfectly Normal/Portrait mode.
My question is, its a front camera fault? If its a hardware/sensor issue, its ok for me. Any setting to fix this or can use another Gcam app? Already I used a lot of them with same results, so I think could be a some of tweak or play with setting... I don't Know...
Thank!
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This is the best link to stay up to date with all of the numerous versions of GCam that will work on this phone: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Personally I use, Arnova's v7beta9: Which is the most up to date and provides " a pixel-like experience (portrait mode, motion photos, etc). Doesn't require a camera fix anymore in some phones"
tsongming said:
This is the best link to stay up to date with all of the numerous versions of GCam that will work on this phone: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Personally I use, Arnova's v7beta9: Which is the most up to date and provides " a pixel-like experience (portrait mode, motion photos, etc). Doesn't require a camera fix anymore in some phones"
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I installed GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V7.7.apk which I think is almost the same but with fixes. Looks like it's working fine. However what settings do you use ? I kept defaults for now.
Which Gcam do you use with x720 and official Lineage 16?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/google-camera-hdr-b-s-g-port-version-t3659879
Using GCam 6.1.021 with settings from @BadCluster
Great!
Anyone other interested?
You'll find everything here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79159358&postcount=543
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There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Nokia 9 PureView can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm really interested into the shooting performance.
So any "final version" user please let us know how big the delay is between shoots when shooting a series of Photos.
Let's hope it's minimal!
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Signor Rossi said:
I'm really interested into the shooting performance.
So any "final version" user please let us know how big the delay is between shoots when shooting a series of Photos.
Let's hope it's minimal!
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From what I've read, the shots are processed in the background and there isn't any delay in taking the next shot. I'm curious about the buffer tho.
Itaintrite said:
From what I've read, the shots are processed in the background and there isn't any delay in taking the next shot. I'm curious about the buffer tho.
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Read this too the other day. Let's hope the buffer is large enough to cover 4-5 shoots.
I guess processing will take 4 - 8 seconds per picture. This would not surprise me.
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The processing time differs based on the scene, and which settings are active. I've had some outside shots take between 15-20 seconds to process, and photos with less detail involved only take 3-5 seconds.
With everything active, there's about a half-second delay between shots. Even if you keep tapping the button, it won't take another shot immediately. I haven't noticed any limit on total number able to be processed at once though. I think the most I had at once was 11.
Harfainx said:
The processing time differs based on the scene, and which settings are active. I've had some outside shots take between 15-20 seconds to process, and photos with less detail involved only take 3-5 seconds.
With everything active, there's about a half-second delay between shots. Even if you keep tapping the button, it won't take another shot immediately. I haven't noticed any limit on total number able to be processed at once though. I think the most I had at once was 11.
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Thanks for the feedback. Am I guessing correct that this was on a pre series model?
Half a second delay is acceptable, I guess that's normal.
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Signor Rossi said:
Am I guessing correct that this was on a pre series model?
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Not sure what you mean by 'pre series'. I've had mine since March 1. It's the retail version.
Ok, thought you got your hands on a version given to press or testers.
Thanks for clarification
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So, I’ve purchased the Nokia 9 from and downloaded a compatible pixel 3 camera mod… Question, do all five-camera work as one on third party camera applications as well, night scape using five camera lenses awesome.
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Question, do all five-camera work as one on third party camera applications as well
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I can't answer for sure, but I highly doubt it. I think the app has been customized to use all 5 together and stitch the image together when all the settings are enabled. Since you can disable the extra stuff, I imagine it would only use the main 2 cameras when using a third party app. Seems like it's software controlled.
Then that is good in my view because I can use the Nokia camera app to access all five cameras for pro photos and GCAM using the 2 RGB cameras for great point – shoot photos (like pixel 3 xl)
Could also be, that you are using just one Camera.
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HMD seem to have released an Camera Update to improve Camera Speed.
Any feedback?
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Signor Rossi said:
HMD seem to have released an Camera Update to improve Camera Speed.
Any feedback?
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I'll be checking it out tonight. Been stuck at work all day
saddler2kx said:
Then that is good in my view because I can use the Nokia camera app to access all five cameras for pro photos and GCAM using the 2 RGB cameras for great point – shoot photos (like pixel 3 xl)
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Can you share the link to the APK of the pixel camera mod you are using? Haven't been able to run one that doesn't force quit every time.
Got the working apk from Nokia Power User
https://nokiapoweruser.com/google-camera-apk-download-for-nokia-smartphones/
Direct Link To One I'm using
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ny6ulpiqih18ulg/Nokia_8.1_fully_working.apk/file
I believe the long processing for the photos is a Nokia app bug, because i was able to find a workaround. This issue appeared on my Microsoft nokia as well. The work around i found to get them processed immediately is after you take your pictures, create a new text message or send yourself a text message, and add the pictures you just took to the text message. You dont have to send the text message and you dont have to add them all, just one that is processing. then you can go back in photos and it will be done processing.
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I'll be checking it out tonight. Been stuck at work all day
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So any improvement?
I'm unsure if I should buy it
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Signor Rossi said:
So any improvement?
I'm unsure if I should buy it
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No, the speed didn't get any better than before (maybe slightly, but not enough to really care/notice). They're supposed to be releasing another update soon. Honestly though, I doubt there's too much they can do about the picture processing time. With all the work going on in the background, I don't think they'll be able to speed it up much.
One thing I do hope they address though is the killing of background apps. If you take a picture with all the data turned on (RAW, depth, etc...), it seems to kill most background apps to free up space to process. That seems like overkill to me. Maybe free up a little space, but it seems overly aggressive.
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No, the speed didn't get any better than before (maybe slightly, but not enough to really care/notice). They're supposed to be releasing another update soon. Honestly though, I doubt there's too much they can do about the picture processing time. With all the work going on in the background, I don't think they'll be able to speed it up much.
One thing I do hope they address though is the killing of background apps. If you take a picture with all the data turned on (RAW, depth, etc...), it seems to kill most background apps to free up space to process. That seems like overkill to me. Maybe free up a little space, but it seems overly aggressive.
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Bummer, well I will wait a bit till its fully available here and test it at MediaMarkt.
I was really hoping for a flagship AndroidOne. But an unusable FP and a crapy Cam isn't worth the price.
Sadly there are zero alternatives....
Thanks for your feedback thought
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