Database Users

Camera2 bugs

Hi,
I'm the developer of Open Camera ( http://opencamera.org.uk/ / https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-camera-t2850557/ ) and was wondering what people's experiences were on the OnePlus 3T with third party camera apps that use Camera2 API?
I've tested a few different third party cameras on my OnePlus 3T, with Camera2 enabled as follows:
Open Camera: enable Settings/"Use Camera2 API".
A Better Camera: enable Settings/General settings/More/"Use Camera2 interface".
Snap Camera HDR (Trial): enable Settings/Other/"Use Camera2 API".
Camera FV-5: this uses Camera2 by default.
AZ Camera: this uses Camera2 by default.
Footej: this uses Camera2 by default.
Lightroom (which has a built-in camera using Camera2)
Mostly things seem good, but there are some issues on my device (these occurred on both Oxygen 4.0.2 and 4.0.3):
* Most seriously, I've seen problems to do with using manual shutter speed. This usually shows in the form of preview corruption (it shows a split-screen, or starts scrolling), but sometimes there's a camera error, in some cases the entire phone freezes for several seconds (with even the home button not responding). In rare cases the phone becomes sluggish until a reboot is forced. It seems to happen with bright scenes (e.g., outdoors in daytime, or pointing close to a bright light - say shutter speed 1/100s or less). There are a few ways to reproduce this:
1. Switch to manual shutter speed, then back to auto. Then point to a bright scene, after a few moments the problem usually happens.
2. Point at bright scene and switch to manual shutter speed, and wait a few moments.
3. Switch to manual shutter speed, and keep varying the shutter speed (even if not pointing to bright scene).
I've reproduced this with: Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej, Lightroom.
Unfortunately this doesn't just make manual mode unreliable, but also affects implementation of things like HDR, expo bracketing.
* The ISO value (and possibly shutter speed?) reported by the Camera driver is incorrect in dark scenes. This can be seen by the on-screen values in Open Camera, A Better Camera (see Settings/Viewfinder settings/More/ISO value), Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej. In Open Camera, this value is CaptureResult.SENSOR_SENSITIVITY obtained from the CaptureRequest request received by onCaptureCompleted.
It can also be seen by looking at the reported ISO in the image's Exif data.
The maximum reported values are ISO 799 and shutter speed 1/16.7s. Why do I suspect this to be incorrect? Firstly because taking a photo of the same scene with the stock camera will show much higher ISO in the Exif (even though the photo looks similar), secondly because switching to manual ISO value of ~800 (either in the stock or a third party camera) results in a much darker photos.
Note, this bug is more serious than it might sound, as it messes up things like using HDR for darker scenes.
* Possibly related to this is that setting a manual ISO of above 800 seems to have no effect - photos are still taken as if they had ISO 800. This can be reproduced with Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR.
Also, not a camera2 issue, but still relevant to the OnePlus 3T, is double-power-button to open camera: if the device is unlocked, it launches the default camera app, but if the device is locked, it only seems to open the stock OnePlus camera app. Open Camera sets an intent filter for both android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA and android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA_SECURE . This works okay on my Nexus 6. On my OnePlus, the app info for the stock camera app says "no defaults set", so there's nothing to clear.
Supposedly the preferred way to report bugs is https://forums.oneplus.net/feedback/ , but I can't create a new thread until I've posted 5 replies (ah yes, anti-spam measures that encourage users to spam) so I'll have to post here for now. I thought it'd be interesting to know if others have experienced or can reproduce these - or if you're experiencing different issues altogether? (Sometimes even on a single model, there can be frustrating camera bugs that only show on some devices for whatever reason.)

I like to play with manual mode, but just a casual shooter so haven't gone to details, but will give this try. I know there are some inaccuracy, but it's affirming coming from a pro. You can just comment 5 times and post in the oneplus forum. I will also test and post the feedback.
May be fixing these will result in impressive picture quality as hardware is capable just the processing which is average.
Thanks for the finding and posting, at least we know some of the reason now.

I've had problems with the manual shutter speed. Happens when reducing it. Picture starts scrolling then phone freezes up
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

mdwh said:
Hi,
I'm the developer of Open Camera ( http://opencamera.org.uk/ / https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-camera-t2850557/ ) and was wondering what people's experiences were on the OnePlus 3T with third party camera apps that use Camera2 API?
I've tested a few different third party cameras on my OnePlus 3T, with Camera2 enabled as follows:
Open Camera: enable Settings/"Use Camera2 API".
A Better Camera: enable Settings/General settings/More/"Use Camera2 interface".
Snap Camera HDR (Trial): enable Settings/Other/"Use Camera2 API".
Camera FV-5: this uses Camera2 by default.
AZ Camera: this uses Camera2 by default.
Footej: this uses Camera2 by default.
Lightroom (which has a built-in camera using Camera2)
Mostly things seem good, but there are some issues on my device (these occurred on both Oxygen 4.0.2 and 4.0.3):
* Most seriously, I've seen problems to do with using manual shutter speed. This usually shows in the form of preview corruption (it shows a split-screen, or starts scrolling), but sometimes there's a camera error, in some cases the entire phone freezes for several seconds (with even the home button not responding). In rare cases the phone becomes sluggish until a reboot is forced. It seems to happen with bright scenes (e.g., outdoors in daytime, or pointing close to a bright light - say shutter speed 1/100s or less). There are a few ways to reproduce this:
1. Switch to manual shutter speed, then back to auto. Then point to a bright scene, after a few moments the problem usually happens.
2. Point at bright scene and switch to manual shutter speed, and wait a few moments.
3. Switch to manual shutter speed, and keep varying the shutter speed (even if not pointing to bright scene).
I've reproduced this with: Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej, Lightroom.
Unfortunately this doesn't just make manual mode unreliable, but also affects implementation of things like HDR, expo bracketing.
* The ISO value (and possibly shutter speed?) reported by the Camera driver is incorrect in dark scenes. This can be seen by the on-screen values in Open Camera, A Better Camera (see Settings/Viewfinder settings/More/ISO value), Snap Camera HDR, Camera FV-5, AZ Camera, Footej. In Open Camera, this value is CaptureResult.SENSOR_SENSITIVITY obtained from the CaptureRequest request received by onCaptureCompleted.
It can also be seen by looking at the reported ISO in the image's Exif data.
The maximum reported values are ISO 799 and shutter speed 1/16.7s. Why do I suspect this to be incorrect? Firstly because taking a photo of the same scene with the stock camera will show much higher ISO in the Exif (even though the photo looks similar), secondly because switching to manual ISO value of ~800 (either in the stock or a third party camera) results in a much darker photos.
Note, this bug is more serious than it might sound, as it messes up things like using HDR for darker scenes.
* Possibly related to this is that setting a manual ISO of above 800 seems to have no effect - photos are still taken as if they had ISO 800. This can be reproduced with Open Camera, A Better Camera, Snap Camera HDR.
Also, not a camera2 issue, but still relevant to the OnePlus 3T, is double-power-button to open camera: if the device is unlocked, it launches the default camera app, but if the device is locked, it only seems to open the stock OnePlus camera app. Open Camera sets an intent filter for both android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA and android.media.action.STILL_IMAGE_CAMERA_SECURE . This works okay on my Nexus 6. On my OnePlus, the app info for the stock camera app says "no defaults set", so there's nothing to clear.
Supposedly the preferred way to report bugs is https://forums.oneplus.net/feedback/ , but I can't create a new thread until I've posted 5 replies (ah yes, anti-spam measures that encourage users to spam) so I'll have to post here for now. I thought it'd be interesting to know if others have experienced or can reproduce these - or if you're experiencing different issues altogether? (Sometimes even on a single model, there can be frustrating camera bugs that only show on some devices for whatever reason.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey man first of all thank you very much for developing that app, its awwwwsssome and btw oneplus implemented camera2api in op3t poorly so that could be the reason ( if they were able to implement api2 correctly then there wouldve been 240 fps slow mo for op3t)

I was able to reproduce every issue you've said on my 3T - OOS 4.0.3 - mainly incorrect EXIF data when using camera app <> stock.
Open Camera works okay for me (as it crashes the least), but when trying CFV-5 or Manual Camera then I was also able to reproduce the freezing/hanging/glitched preview screen.
Also a thing I noticed, that my rear camera takes brighter pictures in low light than the back, even tough the shutter is longer on the rear (probably incorrectly reported) - more info here.

I was able to reproduce all of the issues you mentioned on an OOS 4.0.3 based custom ROM, which I guess is kinda the same as stock.
This is a serious issue, you should definitely report this to Oneplus, since all of us seem to be affected by it.
Another thing: Higher ISO and lower shutter speed combo works as intended in the stock camera app. I suspect foul play by Oneplus.

I've experienced the lock screen issue before but not used the camera enough to really notice the other problems yet. I actually have Open Camera installed. Nice work and I love the fact that you open sourced it and didn't plague us with more ads. That is very appreciated!
I really miss the camera app I used on the OnePlus One but its just not compatible (or that's the rumor) with newer models. Maybe Ill flash it.
Definately keep trying on the feedback link. I know the spam-to-post thing is stupid. Have you tried the User Feedback app? Or is that only on the Beta?
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

For what it's worth after I received my 3t I saw how slow the stock camera was and it's inability to stop motion very well and installed your app and it works quite well. I use your app as my default camera app.

kenhicg said:
For what it's worth after I received my 3t I saw how slow the stock camera was and it's inability to stop motion very well and installed your app and it works quite well. I use your app as my default camera app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously? You defenetly confused with camera apps.
Stock oos camera is wonderful. For exemple, now I'm using as my daily rom, dedicated and unnoficial laos by nvertigo67 for 3t. And I can say, that it is the best rom by far.
Just a moment ago, I'm installed and tested opencamera, and can say anything good (if comparing it with stock one). So please, just try something else and you will see how is amazing, fast, smooth the stock one. Btw, there you can find snapdragon camera(introduce by @nvertigo67 too), that have same perfomance and quality. I'm just prefer oos cam, becouse ui more comfortable.
@mdwh
Nothing personal. You making a good app (use it on my opo). Just whanted to say, that stock one is superb, with op bloobs. Even in laos build.

Getting green squares instead of front camera photos

Thanks for your responses, I've now posted on the OnePlus forums at https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/ .

mdwh said:
Thanks for your responses, I've now posted on the OnePlus forums at https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/ .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They responded quickly. Surprisingly quickly. I'm interested to see how fast they will react though...

lapapunk said:
Seriously? You defenetly confused with camera apps.
Stock oos camera is wonderful. For exemple, now I'm using as my daily rom, dedicated and unnoficial laos by nvertigo67 for 3t. And I can say, that it is the best rom by far.
Just a moment ago, I'm installed and tested opencamera, and can say anything good (if comparing it with stock one). So please, just try something else and you will see how is amazing, fast, smooth the stock one. Btw, there you can find snapdragon camera(introduce by @nvertigo67 too), that have same perfomance and quality. I'm just prefer oos cam, becouse ui more comfortable.
@mdwh
Nothing personal. You making a good app (use it on my opo). Just whanted to say, that stock one is superb, with op bloobs. Even in laos build.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Obviously you are confused
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk

A month passed, new open beta, same thing is in it.

prathyand said:
I have talked to a ROM Enginieer from OP. He says that it is internally fixed but not released in OpenBetas. Will be released soon. Let's wait n see .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/camera2-api-bugs-for-3rd-party-camera-apps.506100/#post-16131084
And I really want to have back the functions from Open Camera. It's the main camera since years now and I don't wanna miss it. Never.
Well, there's hope.

What should I say... I really tried my best to get their attention, but the administrative audience keeps being quiet. I really thought of getting an OP5, but at all points in summary, they really grew trust issues. Wasn't one point of their slogan, they hear what the users want? I really don't think so. Otherwise, this issue would have been fixed ages ago or at least a reply from someone who really works on fixing issues like that. That's a major bug and nobody cares. Sad.

I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.

@redsmith: Abandon OnePlus once and forever. I'm already looking for a new OEM. Currently, there are no developer-friendly phones out, so I have to wait a bit. I won't support this company any longer that claims "We hear what customers say!". They don't. They only look forward to get their newest devices sold by hype. They're not as tiny as they make us believe. They're close to OPPO (even in the same building). They could fix this problem if they want but sadly it seems, that they simply don't.

MickyFoley said:
What should I say... I really tried my best to get their attention, but the administrative audience keeps being quiet. I really thought of getting an OP5, but at all points in summary, they really grew trust issues. Wasn't one point of their slogan, they hear what the users want? I really don't think so. Otherwise, this issue would have been fixed ages ago or at least a reply from someone who really works on fixing issues like that. That's a major bug and nobody cares. Sad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
redsmith said:
I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
MickyFoley said:
@redsmith: Abandon OnePlus once and forever. I'm already looking for a new OEM. Currently, there are no developer-friendly phones out, so I have to wait a bit. I won't support this company any longer that claims "We hear what customers say!". They don't. They only look forward to get their newest devices sold by hype. They're not as tiny as they make us believe. They're close to OPPO (even in the same building). They could fix this problem if they want but sadly it seems, that they simply don't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@Funk Wizard

redsmith said:
I'm really fed up with this situation. I like to try lots of custom ROMs but I'm basically stuck with using stock OOS just for the camera. What can we do to make this happen? Phone calls? Lots of emails? I'm willing to make a lot of fuss to pressure these mofos into fixing this POS API thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. Phoenix AEX has the OOS camera (not the port). It's exact. I've even used the new Camera2 for the OP5 on Phoenix. Try it. However, I'm using Sultan's SnapDragon Camera (works on LOS based ROMs and Phoenix since Phoenix auto-switches camera HALs), and it really beats any camera app I've tried in quality ... there are setting to tweak ... quality set to high, raised contrast a step or two up, sharpness a step up, saturation a step down, but ... its my new default.
Sent from my OnePlus3T using XDA Labs

Google Camera HDR+ function can be activated on Mate 9's?

Recently seen that for the latest 8** series Snapdragon SOC driven devices the HDR+ function on Google Camera was made functional on most of devices. The results in comparison to their original camera seems day and night from all points of view especially in low-light situations. As we now this seems to be Achilles heel for the Mate 9 and maybe the biggest reason that most of us lookup for other devices.
As I am no expert, I wonder if this function can be made functional on Kirin chipsets!? I want to take this opportunity to pull the alarm for the developers' and for the skillful members of this forum.
If successful most likely most of us won't look that soon for the planned new launches like: Note 8, V30, maybe even the next Mate.

You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!

Swan Princess said:
You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That thing already know, but regardless of how hard you try (any app or setup) you cannot achieve results that good. Plus google camera's exposure is much better. Please check this thing yourself if you don't believe me.

does google camera even work on mate 9?

galaxy16 said:
does google camera even work on mate 9?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. But not the most recent ones. The ones for 7.0 work.

True HDR uses three different images that you then assemble in a photo editing suite of your choice. The 'HDR' function in any phone is not a true HDR and just a computer algorithm that blends three exposures. Since the Mate 9 shoots raw, most will just do it the 'real' way Would be neat to see this function in the Mate 9 for us lazy folks(yes I am lazy and yes I am a professional photographer)

Ok, so no interest in this direction, nobody keen on improving the camera.

Not what I was saying at all. If we can improve the camera and keep all the functions built into it by Huawei, I would be first in line to sign up. Hell, I bought this phone specifically because of the camera. It is a wonderful performer that I have not even begun to stretch to the limits yet, but I have only had the phone for 3 days or so. I look forward to an improved camera, but only without the loss of functionality

Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization

kermex said:
Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally

benjmiester said:
Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It working fine on my Mate 9.

kermex said:
It working fine on my Mate 9.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.

benjmiester said:
Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, I didn't do anything special. But pay attention: there are two different APKs. One of them is for Qualcomm CPUs. Download the one in the first link. This one.

Hey guys, I've tried the other one I think and crashed the camera driver had to reboot! Lemmie try this one! Thanks kermex
Edit: Nope! I open once, then can't open again :/ Oh well... Another curious thing is that it only detects the 12MB RGB Sensor... These sensores have so much potential, hope Huawei will get into the Camera Software deeper...

So now it works, change hw level to legacy.

Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?

mad.nexus said:
So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only thing I changed was the option to save as RAW. Nothing else.

will test it with several set-ups to see if any improvement comes from the HDR+ function.

mad.nexus said:
Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
i tried using different settings, but not work for me, stay an "A" above HDR+

Looserke said:
if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Soooo... How did you activate it then?

OnePlus 6T Camera Application vs. Pixel Camera Application

I can 100% say it makes a difference. I'll try it out when it gets dark later but just a quick office shot of my Rockstar can and I can easily see the difference. The OnePlus 6T camera application makes the can "pop" more but it loses detail in the process. The GCam (Pixel) camera application makes it much more natural looking and restoring detail. Only con is it shoots 4K at 30 FPS so I'll toggle back to stock software for 4K 60 FPS.
I highly recommend it. It's posted elsewhere but for those who don't snoop around the threads...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/themes/app-oneplus-6-google-camera-port-t3862849
Stock Camera (left) vs Pixel on 6T (right)
I'm a believer!

I agree with this general statement. Get the one with Night Sight and then you have magical night mode as well!

Waiting for the TMo fix so I can give this a test.

CHH2 said:
Waiting for the TMo fix so I can give this a test.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's fixed with latest update

Just wait till @Arnova8G2 adds the ability to control the jpg quality. I have a feeling this is just scratching the surface in terms of image quality. The OnePlus camera software makes images look oily up close. Severe detail loss. Google Camera pretty much reproduces what you see in the viewfinder. OnePlus needs to stop compressing the images so much. These phones have enough space for 100% quality .jpgs.

ram4ufriends said:
It's fixed with latest update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, still crashes on me. Just in a different part of the process for me.

CHH2 said:
Nope, still crashes on me. Just in a different part of the process for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does for me sometimes when using the front camera. Clearing the cache sometimes helps

vimto25 said:
It does for me sometimes when using the front camera. Clearing the cache sometimes helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We're not talking sometimes. We're talking every single time I try to take a photo, it crashes right after I press the shutter button. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Still the same. Even if it's just a matter of clearing the cache every so often, that's way more work than necessary for a camera to work that should "just be there". If I'm going to have to fuss about, I'll just take out my real camera and set it to full manual. It will still be faster and better. Until the app is stable, I see no point in using it. I'm not getting paid to beta test. (I do get paid to test new development software though.)

CHH2 said:
We're not talking sometimes. We're talking every single time I try to take a photo, it crashes right after I press the shutter button. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Still the same. Even if it's just a matter of clearing the cache every so often, that's way more work than necessary for a camera to work that should "just be there". If I'm going to have to fuss about, I'll just take out my real camera and set it to full manual. It will still be faster and better. Until the app is stable, I see no point in using it. I'm not getting paid to beta test. (I do get paid to test new development software though.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oryte I didn't think it was everyone.
I'm on 9.0.4 what are you on? No update for mine yet to 9.0.5.
Maybe this is why I'm getting a few crash's and also no blur effect on the Google front camera.

vimto25 said:
Oryte I didn't think it was everyone.
I'm on 9.0.4 what are you on? No update for mine yet to 9.0.5.
Maybe this is why I'm getting a few crash's and also no blur effect on the Google front camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For some reason on this port you only get blur effect when taking a portrait of a person.

bp328i said:
For some reason on this port you only get blur effect when taking a portrait of a person.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oryte prob why then.
Is this port more stable on 9.0.5?

vimto25 said:
Oryte prob why then.
Is this port more stable on 9.0.5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really sure, I've only used it a handful of times. I normally use my Pixel 3 XL for pictures. I've had my unlocked OnePlus version for four days and besides the photos I tested the portrait mode on that have been deleted I have four pictures in my gallery...lol
I will say this about 9.0.5, screen unlock is now almost instantaneous. The fingerprint reader is now as fast as a hardware one.

bp328i said:
Not really sure, I've only used it a handful of times. I normally use my Pixel 3 XL for pictures. I've had my unlocked OnePlus version for four days and besides the photos I tested the portrait mode on that have been deleted I have four pictures in my gallery...lol
I will say this about 9.0.5, screen unlock is now almost instantaneous. The fingerprint reader is now as fast as a hardware one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha I was going to get a pixel 3 XL but for the extra 4-£500 I can't justify it.
I've noticed the picture quality is better with the pixel port I'm happy with the results.
Well I hope to receive the 9.0.5 update soon. The fingerprint scanner on 9.0.4 seems about sketchy it works great sometimes for me but sometimes it doesn't recognize.

Here is a comparison of night modes on stock and pixel camera app on OP6T. the first photo is the pixel camera app and the second one is the stock OnePlus camera app. The stock camera app seems to really wash out the colors. I can definitely say that with my own eyes the Google pixel camera app took a much more true to life image of what I'm seeing out my window.

Mikes30000 said:
Here is a comparison of night modes on stock and pixel camera app on OP6T. the first photo is the pixel camera app and the second one is the stock OnePlus camera app. The stock camera app seems to really wash out the colors. I can definitely say that with my own eyes the Google pixel camera app took a much more true to life image of what I'm seeing out my window.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I agree also abit more detail

I have been using gcam and it looks so much better, and of course that night mode is magical!

I still think a lot if detail is being left out as the file sizes are way too small compared to using past gcams with the 6p or even the other devices using the higher file size options/details that were in advanced options in the previous gcam ports. It's especially showing once you zoom in on the pics.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Mikes30000 said:
Here is a comparison of night modes on stock and pixel camera app on OP6T. the first photo is the pixel camera app and the second one is the stock OnePlus camera app. The stock camera app seems to really wash out the colors. I can definitely say that with my own eyes the Google pixel camera app took a much more true to life image of what I'm seeing out my window.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why the difference in crop?
Still waiting for a version of GCAM that doesn't break in some way. So far, I'm not impressed with the 6T's camera. Tried taking a shot this morning that's a cakewalk for my LG V30 and the 6T just couldn't pull it off. Ended up having to get out my real camera to get the photo.

CHH2 said:
Why the difference in crop?
Still waiting for a version of GCAM that doesn't break in some way. So far, I'm not impressed with the 6T's camera. Tried taking a shot this morning that's a cakewalk for my LG V30 and the 6T just couldn't pull it off. Ended up having to get out my real camera to get the photo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to each his own, but I had a v30 and the 6T camera is much better.... Even with the stock app

mpetruzz said:
to each his own, but I had a v30 and the 6T camera is much better.... Even with the stock app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, so far the evidence is quite to the contrary. The V30 can nail the shot every single time, the 6T couldn't nail it even once. Not once. Something tells me you all need to do some wider ranging testing.

Camera Update (Autofocus issues etc.)

Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
EDIT 23.03.2020:
Look at this video guys. Focus hunting is gone. Sorry, I have orange blinds and the sun was shining directly on those.
https://streamable.com/ckj6d

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?

ZayaanAhyaan said:
Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have just tested it with my own face at work in bureau using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.

Plz keep us updated on the auto focus issue

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.

Here are the details for the one with camera improvements
https://9to5google.com/2020/03/05/galaxy-s20-camera-update-samsung/amp/

VZTech said:
I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is the ATBM.

buddy66 said:
It is the ATBM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.

VZTech said:
That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.

buddy66 said:
I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, that one. Hopefully it comes before my return period. If not, I'm sending it back.

ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most

Djapatos said:
ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lets hope so!!
As has been stated, ATBM is the one that everyone already has and it definitely did nothing for the camera.

Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..

so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam

neigo said:
so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
EDIT2: This was already a Tier 2 answer and they do not know on their own when it is going to arrive because it is being rolled out without properly informing all Samsung Sites.

buddy66 said:
I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..

Virgo_Guy said:
Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know that support from such big companies is mostly not helpful but if they throw a voucher for something, then there is at least something useful you get if they cannot help. As I have written before, the other lenses could help with the Plane of Focus. Maybe Samsung will figure it out. Samsung integrated Google Duo so let Google guys improve the camera software :silly:

They're not going to be able to fix the narrow focus depth of close up images. Have you ever noticed that "fast" zoom lenses with constant aperture for cameras are invariably heavy and expensive? That's because they cram in several aspherical lens in there to be able to maintain the wide aperture. But on a camera lens, you can adjust the aperture if you want to increase the focus plane. The Ultra has a variable zoom with fixed aperture, so it's a trade off. They may be able to improve the focus hunting issues but I doubt it will ever match the speed and precision of the dpaf of their cheaper siblings.
For this reason I changed my pre-order at the last minute to the s20 plus. My subjects are typically closer range shots that are moving (my kids), so auto focus performance is important.

Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.

_Dennis_ said:
That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That!
It's a feature, not a bug.
The culprit is fixed aperture.

Gcam?

Just wondering if there is a version of gcam that can be installed? And where do you check for development and updates these days? Had a Pixel for so long I've no idea where to go!!

https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
considering the fact that the 8 Pro is one of the two phones in the world that uses the IMX 689 sensor, it'll take some time for developers to make a proper port for this phone.

Any luck?

I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.

voltiger said:
I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.

Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean the telephoto & wide ?

Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, This version of GCAM cannot support the UltraWide and Tele cam yet.

says it need root access to work..

That means I have no luck using ultrawide and tele lens with GCAM apps...
Use stock apps instead

Indeeed

...
I really hope we will see a stable version of GCam working with all Oneplus 8 Pro cameras.
I personally think there is a lot of potential in that IMX 689 sensor.
I am still thinking there should be some real use of this strange photochrom camera as well.
And may be a nice manual PRO VIDEO mode as well :fingers-crossed:
Most probably I will get the Filmic Pro anyway soon.

I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.

happiboi said:
I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it

happiboi said:
... Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
voltiger said:
I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GCam has a different algorithm which processes many frames. In Pixel devices, there is a dedicated chip (pixel visual core) which performs the necessary computations. In other devices, it is the main processor that has to do all the job

I played around with the GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.8, which delivers nice results. but I noticed that the maximum resolution is 4000x3000. the stock camera goes up to 8000x6000. is there a way to activate the full resolution? in the settings it is already set to full resolution.
other than that, can anyone recommend any of the configs for this gcam? https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/configs-urnyx-02/

How does the night mode compare to the pixel 4? I imagine it would be better because of the larger sensor