I don't know about ideal but I have my own personal requirements.
1. Notifications for Text messages, Phone Calls and Emails. I don't use Facebook or Twitter anymore but I do understand lots of people still do so those would be important as well.
2. Ability to dismiss incoming calls or answer. I hate those bluetooth headsets so talking directly into the watch would be better for ME. Don't know how well that would work but if the call is important enough or private than have the ability to swap over to just the phone.
3. The screen is so small games really won't matter to me but the ability to go to Playstore and download various Apps would be ideal. Don't really know what I would really need on my watch as any Apps I use regularly I would rather see on my 5" screen.
4. Calendar with Notifications would be great as I could set dates and times on my phone and be alerted thru the watch.
5. Not much else is really required besides changing watch faces to different designs and the occasional trip to the internet on the fly with readable screens. Sometimes I need to google something and it would be great to be able to do this at random.
Currently I am looking at the SmartQ Z Watch and the ZGPAX S5 Smartwatch
I have had this watch for 2 days, comments as below:-
1. This works perfectly.
2. I haven't figured out how you can talk directly into the watch. I do not think this is possible yet although you can plug in a headset and has a built in microphone. With the updates coming in weekly I assume this might be possible through an update.
3. Playstore is not pre-installed. Anyways I do not think most of the apps would work in Playstore since they are not tailored for the screen size.
4. No problem with this either.
5. No inbuilt web browser but I assume you can install one, some of the custom roms has this I have read.
coolface said:
I have had this watch for 2 days, comments as below:-
1. This works perfectly.
2. I haven't figured out how you can talk directly into the watch. I do not think this is possible yet although you can plug in a headset and has a built in microphone. With the updates coming in weekly I assume this might be possible through an update.
3. Playstore is not pre-installed. Anyways I do not think most of the apps would work in Playstore since they are not tailored for the screen size.
4. No problem with this either.
5. No inbuilt web browser but I assume you can install one, some of the custom roms has this I have read.
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What watch do you have???
All-Or-Nothing said:
I don't know about ideal but I have my own personal requirements.
1. Notifications for Text messages, Phone Calls and Emails. I don't use Facebook or Twitter anymore but I do understand lots of people still do so those would be important as well.
2. Ability to dismiss incoming calls or answer. I hate those bluetooth headsets so talking directly into the watch would be better for ME. Don't know how well that would work but if the call is important enough or private than have the ability to swap over to just the phone.
3. The screen is so small games really won't matter to me but the ability to go to Playstore and download various Apps would be ideal. Don't really know what I would really need on my watch as any Apps I use regularly I would rather see on my 5" screen.
4. Calendar with Notifications would be great as I could set dates and times on my phone and be alerted thru the watch.
5. Not much else is really required besides changing watch faces to different designs and the occasional trip to the internet on the fly with readable screens. Sometimes I need to google something and it would be great to be able to do this at random.
Currently I am looking at the SmartQ Z Watch and the ZGPAX S5 Smartwatch
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I have ZGPAX - they haven't released software for the notifications and call handling options, like the Galaxy Gear has... but it's a great device for sure!
All-Or-Nothing said:
I don't know about ideal but I have my own personal requirements.
1. Notifications for Text messages, Phone Calls and Emails. I don't use Facebook or Twitter anymore but I do understand lots of people still do so those would be important as well.
2. Ability to dismiss incoming calls or answer. I hate those bluetooth headsets so talking directly into the watch would be better for ME. Don't know how well that would work but if the call is important enough or private than have the ability to swap over to just the phone.
3. The screen is so small games really won't matter to me but the ability to go to Playstore and download various Apps would be ideal. Don't really know what I would really need on my watch as any Apps I use regularly I would rather see on my 5" screen.
4. Calendar with Notifications would be great as I could set dates and times on my phone and be alerted thru the watch.
5. Not much else is really required besides changing watch faces to different designs and the occasional trip to the internet on the fly with readable screens. Sometimes I need to google something and it would be great to be able to do this at random.
Currently I am looking at the SmartQ Z Watch and the ZGPAX S5 Smartwatch
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I have zgpax.
Mine came with playstore preinstalled. Can run most ICS compatible applications, oddly though launchers ie Nova Launcher do not work. There is no home button anyway. Switching between programs involves using the back button a lot and switching from the home screen/watch launcher. ADW launcher works but every time the phone is turned on the clock launcher starts instead. Don't know how to switch default.
Google calendar is preinstalled.
I use MySMS to mirror text messages from my main phone, and use a prepaid sim with cheap data just for notifications, ie gmail, ebay.
Do not get SmartQ Z watch if running apps is important to you. It runs a MIPS cpu instead of an ARM cpu, and most apps will not run on MIPS by default.
ZGPAX is not rooted by default but can be very easily.
No volume buttons, volume is best controlled by quick volume profiles from notification tray. Four profiles are set by default, general, silent, meeting (vibrate mode), and outdoor (loud mode).
Only buttons are power and back. Menu button is soft button in notification tray next to clock.
Wifi reception has been excellent for something of this size, though understandably a little slowish.
alcuin said:
Do not get SmartQ Z watch if running apps is important to you. It runs a MIPS cpu instead of an ARM cpu, and most apps will not run on MIPS by default.
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Actually on the smartq z watch most apps excluding a lot of games work just fine without MIP compatibility or MIPS conversion . some have screen issues but that problem lies with any smartwatch .
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda app-developers app
Hi lets help each other here about finow x5air
my problem are
1)i live in India and my watch says no network each time i call it just dont register ,have tried airtel idea etc ant suggestions
2)my weather dont show me anything y ?
any help is appreciated:fingers-crossed:
I got my x5air a week ago and had problems with watch helper software it's keep disconnecting from my galaxy s8plus.
I installed different app and so far it's working
App name is watch droid assistant
how many storage will it remain?
FumiJ said:
how many storage will it remain?
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16 Gb is on board and app is take around 2-3 Mb
Also I disable Most google apps and some other stuff which I am not using for now
New problems with Finow X Air
I also just recently got my Finow X air. I love it so far, the problem are just...
apparently the X Air it's the only model in the Finow X 5 linee which doesn't turn screen on automatically when you look at your watch.
I fixed this problem by installing th app "gravity screen" and set it so, that if you turn your watch in special angle away from you, it turns off and if you turn watch to you, the screen automatically turns on, so you have both hands free and can see the time (which is core aspect of any watch!)
the problem now is that, x air seems to automatically turn off gravity screen and any other apps opened before in background after 1 minute and resets every setting (I also hate that stock android keyboard, you can hardly write with it on small watch)
So in summary my problems are:
1. We should have an auto turn off and turn on screen by looking at the watch feature
2. Let us change freely keyboards!
3. Both settings should remain, and not just stay for 1 minute.
Do any of you know a fix or solution for this or experience same problems? Thank you for your answer in advance.
I install this launcher http://roundandroidwatches.proboards.com/thread/758/universal-launcher-new-generation-2
And also use Debloater to freeze some apps
Keyboard is ok but aldo you can install Google handwriting keyboard which will aloud you to write 1 letter at the time but it's working fine for me
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Also I use some of this faces
http://www.watchfaceup.com/android.php
Regarding the auto turn screen on off problem I found
The app "shake screen on off " from play store works even better than "gravity screen".
You shake your wrist and your watch goes on.
Shake wrist again or just wait a Iittle and it turns off.
Problem is that system still automatically closes every app including "shake screen on off" in background in standby mode..
So I tested it with a stop watch and *after exactly 3 minutes in standby mode the watch closes every open app.*
Can someone confirm this or knows how to fix the autoclose problem?
Raaik said:
Regarding the auto turn screen on off problem I found
The app "shake screen on off " from play store works even better than "gravity screen".
You shake your wrist and your watch goes on.
Shake wrist again or just wait a Iittle and it turns off.
Problem is that system still automatically closes every app including "shake screen on off" in background in standby mode..
So I tested it with a stop watch and *after exactly 3 minutes in standby mode the watch closes every open app.*
Can someone confirm this or knows how to fix the autoclose problem?
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Check Power saving it should be like on my first picture for wrist shake work properly
and also go to more settings, about phone, developer options and on very bottom part check what you have , like on my second picture
Zenia said:
Check Power saving it should be like on my first picture for wrist shake work properly
and also go to more settings, about phone, developer options and on very bottom part check what you have , like on my second picture
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HEUREKA! NO PROBLEMS ANYMORE! I LUVE YOU, THANKS YOU SOOO MUCH!!
PS. i'm not a robot
Hơ can I type STATIC IP in Wifi setup networking cause it have no Advance Setting?
Harbir said:
Hi lets help each other here about finow x5air
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I can not input STATIC IP because it have no Advance Setting after Show Password as same as Config Network Setting in Adroid Phone. Pls help me cause my wifi netwoking cannot using DHCP but STATIC IP. Thanks!
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Harbir said:
my problem are
1)i live in India and my watch says no network each time i call it just dont register ,have tried airtel idea etc ant suggestions
2)my weather dont show me anything y ?
any help is appreciated:fingers-crossed:
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I cannot input STATIC IP because it have no Advance Setting after Show Password as same as Config Network Setting in Android Phone. Pls help me cause my wifi netwoking cannot using DHCP but STATIC IP. Thanks!
It seems the watch will close Apps once the screen is turned off. Then there are no notifications at all until you re-open the app. For example, Gmail will not inform me the arrival of new emails, even if it is set up as a push email. Only when I re-launched Gmail, then suddenly a bunch of emails come in. I am not able to use the trick mentioned above to enable push notifications. Are there any other options? Thanks.
Gmail were? watches or phone
I use my watches like a assistant to phone and it's push all notification to watch from phone.
I disabled Watch Assistant and install Watch Droid Assistant it's working great for me
I need to clarify that I am using the watch as a standalone device. It has a SIM and not connected to a phone. I would like to get notifications of emails. But it does not work that way. On an Android phone, I would imagine there is a battery optimization setting that I can uncheck to keep the app alive. I am not sure whether there is something like that on the watch.
Heart rate
Can Strava or similar apps use the built-in hear rate sensor?
Hi people,
Whenever I tried to add new faces by clicking on " + " or when i try to load the Finow Appstore, after some time loading, i get a black screen. Yesterday it worked though. As if it couldn't reach Finow server.
I tried resetting, but it didn't change anything.
Does anyone have any idea?
Thanks!
Hi, I also faced same problem and have fixed it without installing any third party application. Try this .. press center button -> gesture up from bottom -> genture right to left -> genture right to left -> here select the center icon it looks likes torch light.. that’s it .
Thanks for your help, I already tried it, it didn't work.
But today everything works fine, so i guess there wasn't an error on my side, but either on the server's side.
Hi Folks,
I've got the phone for 3 days now and I'm fiddling around with it to see what it can do and what not. I had an Omate derivate with rectangular screen (512MB/4GB, replaceable battery 600mAh) which I found much better to use and which had an sdcard slot. I'm pretty much p...d off that it is impossible to find anything like it with more memory. I found one phone with 320x200 screen in landscape, but only with Android 4.4 and no card slot and not enough memory. So finally, I bought the X5 Air which is not ideal for me, because of too small a battery and the round screen that makes a lot of problems. 2 GB Ram is good, but 16 GB Flash without the possibility to expand is rather mediocre for my purposes aside of the weak battery .
But here I am, and willing to give it a try.
Here is what I did so far:
Rooted with Kingroot
Works, but installs bloatware.
Tested a few launchers:
From the ones I tested I like Evie the most. It works nicely and works quite well with the round screen.
Installed Linux Deploy
Works perfectly. I just copied my installation file from the old phone and can now access the desktop via VNC from any device in the network. Only drawback is that swapoff doesn't seem to work, and obviously it is not a good idea to have a swap space on the internal flash memory of the phone. Defects are prone to happen. With 2 GB, swapping is not necessary, that's why I wanted more memory. More work needed here.
Installed Crono Surf
Looks good, but if I could combine an alternative launcher like Evie with the generic watch face engine, that would be nicer.
Installed Ki4a
Works perfectly, but to access settings, the screen has to be set to the smaller size (rectangular) and it is better to open it in parallel on a normal phone because you cannot read all descriptions.
Installed HERE We Go
Seems to work, but due to the limited flash memory, you cannot download all the maps you would like to have for offline navigation.
Installed Titanium Backup
Works, but some buttons seem impossible to access.
Removed Kingroot
Kingroot installs too much bloatware for my liking. And it cannot be uninstalled via the normal app management (system app). Maybe there is an uninstall routine via the settings in Kingroot, but it cannot be accessed on that stupid round screen. So I used Titanium Backup to uninstall it. Restart after that and Kingroot and Root seem to have gone without trace. Additionally, I reset the device. Until there is a proper way for rooting the X5 Air, I will stay with Kingroot, but it is good to know that I can revert it.
Basically, I can more or less do with the phone what I intended, but one important thing is missing, standard bluetooth tethering. The menus for setting up a hotspot are completely missing. Anybody knows a way or a tool for that?
When I have time I want to try out xposed framework, maybe that can solve the missing options problems, but so far, I really find it annoying to have hardware that is limited by the software. What is this, Apple? Even my 4 yrs old Omate derivate could be easily converted to a fully working android device with homescreen, notification bar etc. And above all it had only 2 buttons but still all the phone navigation actions were possible, incl. a working running-apps list.
Kind regards,
Felix
Do smartwatches support master bluetooth?
Do smartwatches have master bluetooth? I would like to connect speakers or heart monitor strap (I do not like light based ones) to it, and I do not know will it work as it works with a normal android phone.
Running the stock ROM on a XTRONS TE706PL
PX5, Android 8.0.0
MTCE_GS.V2.84_3
(Build date appears to be 20180504)
I've tried various offline navigation apps, and "HERE WeGo" seems to be the best, except the turn-by-turn audio does not play correctly.
The audio seems to fade in and out and get a buzzing sound part the way through.
I tried Sygic, and the audio seems to work OK - however the problem with Sygic is that it does not appear to be possible to switch out of navigation without completely quitting the application.
i.e I can't go back to the music player or the radio to change track or radio station etc, without having to re-start the route in Sygic
I've read that this could be because HERE WeGo, is not registered as a "Navigation App", however I can't see anywhere to check this.
I've looked in Settings -> Car -> Navigation and I selected HERE WeGo in the "Navigation application settings" but it didn't make any difference
I also tried changing the "Navigation sound mode" from "Mixing" to "Switch" but didn't make any difference.
Any ideas what else I can try.
Edit: does anyone know, not anything... can't edit title. :-/
This is the model I bought as an upgrade to my old KitKat based model.
It's a PX5 based model with 4GB/32GB octacore.
Loving it so far, but for one annoyance - the fastboot is fast indeed (a second or two), but when the unit sleeps, it apparently kills all running apps, and only re-launches the foreground app (and launcher) when it wakes up from sleep mode.
Apps that have an internal 'start on boot' option do not do so, and there is nothing in the system settings to configure startup applications.
This means apps like Blokada, a VPN-based adblocker, do not start automatically. If manually enabled, it will run until the car is turned off or back on. This is also the case if I turn off the fast boot feature. Also means that Tasker won't auto load either, or CF.Lumen, an app that changes the color temperature of the screen at night (like LiveDisplay).
Has anyone with a unit with fast boot found a method to get services to autostart, perhaps with root? I'm not sure what root method to use with this device. If I had root, I could block ads via a host file rather than using Blokada.
Note that these sorts of services are background services, not the actual launching of the apps in the foreground.
I'd love to know how the sleep mode works. I'm guessing it's a very low power standby mode. I'd like to know why it needs to stop background services and apps in order to sleep.
Just have a look at the FCC Car Launcher. Install the launcher and your problems are gone.
About the fastboot method: https://www.ubiquitous-ai.com/en/products/os/quickboot/
I don't think that the Ubiquitous solution for Quick boot is used in PX5 devices. I have not seen any indication for that.
The easier and cheaper solution is to use the Linux kernel builtin Suspend To RAM feature. During sleep the only powered devices are the SOC RAM and the MCU wakeup detection circuitry.
At resume, the SOC jumps into its RAM, which was powered all the time, and so can resume its work where it left it before suspend.
Why all vendors add system apps that kill all user background apps before entering suspend, is a very annoying fact, but the rationale is unknown.
Besides FCC Car Launcher, also the custom Hal9k ROM has options to not kill apps and even add apps to start at startup.
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rigattoni said:
Just have a look at the FCC Car Launcher. Install the launcher and your problems are gone.
About the fastboot method: https://www.ubiquitous-ai.com/en/products/os/quickboot/
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I looked at the FCC Car Launcher, looks like it re-starts music players, but I don't see anything about being able to start chosen background services (like my adblock VPN or Tasker or CF.Lumen), unfortunately.
The launcher I'm using, Car Launcher Agama, already restarts my music when I start the car due to powerAMP integration. It's the background apps that I want to keep alive.
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I looked at the FCC Car Launcher, looks like it re-starts music players, but I don't see anything about being able to start chosen background services (like my adblock VPN or Tasker or CF.Lumen), unfortunately.
The launcher I'm using, Car Launcher Agama, already restarts my music when I start the car due to powerAMP integration. It's the background apps that I want to keep alive.
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Install the ROM Hal9K 3.1 - It allows you to select applications that will not be closed on sleep (called whitelist in the mod settings). It's also just generally faster with heaps of extra configuration available. I use a combination of FCC Car Launcher and Hal9K ROM and it is great
FCC does not move your background apps into a whitelist, but is able to restart your apps after reboot.
That is quite better than having them not killed.
I played around with Hal9k and the white list and I was not really happy with it.
FCC on stock ROM and Tasker is all you need.