Got got a new Pumpkin model. Does anything know how fast boot works? - Android Head-Units

Edit: does anyone know, not anything... can't edit title. :-/
This is the model I bought as an upgrade to my old KitKat based model.
It's a PX5 based model with 4GB/32GB octacore.
Loving it so far, but for one annoyance - the fastboot is fast indeed (a second or two), but when the unit sleeps, it apparently kills all running apps, and only re-launches the foreground app (and launcher) when it wakes up from sleep mode.
Apps that have an internal 'start on boot' option do not do so, and there is nothing in the system settings to configure startup applications.
This means apps like Blokada, a VPN-based adblocker, do not start automatically. If manually enabled, it will run until the car is turned off or back on. This is also the case if I turn off the fast boot feature. Also means that Tasker won't auto load either, or CF.Lumen, an app that changes the color temperature of the screen at night (like LiveDisplay).
Has anyone with a unit with fast boot found a method to get services to autostart, perhaps with root? I'm not sure what root method to use with this device. If I had root, I could block ads via a host file rather than using Blokada.
Note that these sorts of services are background services, not the actual launching of the apps in the foreground.
I'd love to know how the sleep mode works. I'm guessing it's a very low power standby mode. I'd like to know why it needs to stop background services and apps in order to sleep.

Just have a look at the FCC Car Launcher. Install the launcher and your problems are gone.
About the fastboot method: https://www.ubiquitous-ai.com/en/products/os/quickboot/

I don't think that the Ubiquitous solution for Quick boot is used in PX5 devices. I have not seen any indication for that.
The easier and cheaper solution is to use the Linux kernel builtin Suspend To RAM feature. During sleep the only powered devices are the SOC RAM and the MCU wakeup detection circuitry.
At resume, the SOC jumps into its RAM, which was powered all the time, and so can resume its work where it left it before suspend.
Why all vendors add system apps that kill all user background apps before entering suspend, is a very annoying fact, but the rationale is unknown.
Besides FCC Car Launcher, also the custom Hal9k ROM has options to not kill apps and even add apps to start at startup.

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rigattoni said:
Just have a look at the FCC Car Launcher. Install the launcher and your problems are gone.
About the fastboot method: https://www.ubiquitous-ai.com/en/products/os/quickboot/
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I looked at the FCC Car Launcher, looks like it re-starts music players, but I don't see anything about being able to start chosen background services (like my adblock VPN or Tasker or CF.Lumen), unfortunately.
The launcher I'm using, Car Launcher Agama, already restarts my music when I start the car due to powerAMP integration. It's the background apps that I want to keep alive.

anticitizen said:
I looked at the FCC Car Launcher, looks like it re-starts music players, but I don't see anything about being able to start chosen background services (like my adblock VPN or Tasker or CF.Lumen), unfortunately.
The launcher I'm using, Car Launcher Agama, already restarts my music when I start the car due to powerAMP integration. It's the background apps that I want to keep alive.
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Install the ROM Hal9K 3.1 - It allows you to select applications that will not be closed on sleep (called whitelist in the mod settings). It's also just generally faster with heaps of extra configuration available. I use a combination of FCC Car Launcher and Hal9K ROM and it is great

FCC does not move your background apps into a whitelist, but is able to restart your apps after reboot.
That is quite better than having them not killed.
I played around with Hal9k and the white list and I was not really happy with it.
FCC on stock ROM and Tasker is all you need.

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[Q] How can I manage background processes?

Basically, I went into Settings>Apps>Running and realised I don't want Facebook in there ever unless I actually open the app. I opened the Facebook app Settings and disabled Notifications off. Also Messenger Location Services is off too. Each time I try and kill the process or reboot it comes back.
Things that load that I want to permanently disable unless I actually open the specific app:
Facebook
Maps
Google Play Store
I use Titanium to put a widget on my screen where I can freeze and unfreeze that app. I have done it with maps and some other programs that were aggressive in their communications. Unfreeze them, open and use, refreeze when done.
Thanks grubbster.
Any other options available to me?
Other than ignoring it, you can kill the app each time you close it. There's a developmental setting that shuts down the apps (not sure if it's in Cyanogenmod only or just stock) because it doesn't keep anything in the background. This would close ANY app that's not holding forground view however.
I'll just leave it as it is to be honest. Just thought there was a quick way of doing it similar to how the MSCONFIG utility operates in Windows.
MSCONFIG does that for startup, there are apps that block apps from starting up in android too but those apps need to be running as well which defeats the whole purpose of having plenty of RAM in the first place..
The whole point is Android manages the background apps just fine. Having 2GB of RAM but wanting 1.6GB to be free all the time (200MB used by GPU AFAIK so you are left with 1.8GB) is not the smartest way to manage apps. You want them snappy, in and out and done. Apps sitting in memory doesn't use more power because the RAM is active even as long as it's plugged into the the motherboard.

Closing Idle apps on Screen off

Hi,
It has been a while since I have been able to play with custom ROMs as my previous phone was not well supported.
I have just now switched over to the Axon 7 and have just started setting it up as my daily driver. I Installed NucleaROM with LIGHT PATCH, Open GApps and ARISE Sound System. All seems to be working fine but I have one issue and I think it may be a feature from not just the Custom ROM of choice but the underlying source (ResurrectionROM/LineageOS).
When I first setup the phone, it had an option on the lock screen to customize how apps are closed (i believe the term was Smart Close) when the device is idle and the screen is off. I remember looking through it and having options for which apps are closed and which are to remain running.
Since then I have installed a collection of apps, one of which is the Garmin Connect which I need to run when the screen is off.
I am unable to find how to get to these options now. I have looked through the power options and cannot see it.
If anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for your assistance.
As I have started to use the phone a little more I have noticed that this is having another effect.
It seems to be closing my keyboard app so every time I unlock it goes back to the stock keyboard and I need to select SwiftKey again.
I hope someone knows where these settings are.
I have found a workaround for now, but if anyone knows how to control the SmartBattery application, it would be greatly appreciated.
I believe this function is coming from the System App called Smart Battery. I have gone into Settings -> Apps then selected the menu to show system apps. From there I was able to locate the SmartBattery app and disable it.
This seems to be working for me as by Garmin Fitness tracker was losing BlueTooth to the phone before but not now with that app disabled.
I'm not entirely positive about this, as I've never heard of that app. At first, I thought you were talking about the screen lock cleaning feature from the power manager on stock. After your follow up post indicating you had actually found reference to the app on your system and a bit of Googling, I was able to find some reference to it. Nothing useful, I'm afraid.
Try using an app that can launch activities, like Nova Launcher or Tasker. Try to find the app in the list, and see if you can launch it by calling for one of its activities.
P.S., if you're running RR, if you have a look at the extended settings, there might be a way to set the nav keys long-press action to a custom activity. Remember to enable the app, otherwise it might not show up in any lists.

Slow Tasker on Joying 2GB - Sofia

Like many of you I use tasker on my Joying 2GB - Sofia Unit. However I am encountering some issues with the speed in which it sometimes executes any tasks. To try and eliminate variables I have created a simple task which simple launches Spotify (I realise this is pointless but it is purely for troubleshooting).
If I run the task within tasker 100 times it executes instantly 100 times. If I run the task from a shortcut it may execute instantly or it may be delayed by 1 minute or more. I have looked through the forum and also google and found that if I create a tasker widget rather than a shortcut it executes instantly ever time.
When delayed I have tried turning logging on in tasker and found it is the request to tasker that is delayed not the starting of the task so its not an issue with tasker so much as it is an issue with android making the call from the shortcut. I have tried changing settings for "running in foreground", "allowing external access" and "reduce resource usage" but with no effect. I have also noticed in the About section the tasker version is slightly older as it detects my android version as Android 4.0 even though my device is running 5.0+ as it comes from the manufacturer.
I am using Lightning Launcher but have also switch to the standard Joying launcher and experienced the same issues.
First I would be interested to know anyone using tasker (and on what system ) and if they are having issues similar to the above or not at all. Obviously second I would be interested if anyone can make some suggestions as to what I could try to troubleshoot or resolve the issue. I feel like I need to trace the issue starting from what android is doing from the moment I click the shortcut to when the task launches.
Any response is appreciated as this is driving me nuts.

Android Head Unit Launcher Suggestions??

I have recently picked up an Atoto A6 and I dont hate the factory launcher, im looking for something better and wondering what others are using or if anyone has any recommendations. Thanks.
Welcome!
Have you tried searching the forum yet?
There's a couple of topics already about different launchers.
The programmers even participate in some of them!
I have used:
- Car Launcher AG
- CarWebGuru
- FCC Launcher (currently in use)
The first two ones are quite pre-programmed, but the last one is very customizable.
Good luck and if you have questions, feel free to ask them here.
I am using Car Launcher AG on my ATOTO A6 HU, really great one. You can give a try.
Nova Launcher is often at the top of lists of good launcher apps. I installed it on my new A6 and like it very much. It really cleaned up the cluttered look of the A6.
Before I installed Nova Launcher I installed the QuickPic app and used it to change my A6 wallpaper to a nice Subaru Impreza WRX graphic that I found at https://imgur.com/gallery/57VoTfq. I tweaked it slightly in Photoshop to fit the A6's 1024 x 600P display on my desktop computer and then installed it from the A6 by transferring it via a Micro SD card. I believe the A6 wallpaper can also be changed from within Nova Launcher.
Nova Launcher is highly customizable but, so far, the only change I have made to the default installation is to remove the search field from my main A6 theme so it doesn't cover the WRX wallpaper.
I'm using the basic free version of Nova Launcher but may upgrade to the paid $4.99 version in the future.
Highly recommended!
I used to use Nova on my phone and I cant remember if you are able to customize your icons and the app name or not. I know on a few launchers you are able too. That would be perfect if I could. I might have to give Nova a try on this head unit. I have been just using the stock launcher and its ok. All the head unit type launchers that are out there, while nice, just dont do it for me. I just want something simple, highly customizable, and clean. I don't need built in music apps and junk.
With Nova Launcher, you can customize the icon, name, and even hide all app names if you like. I've tried pretty much all the launchers after having an Android head unit for the last couple of years and always come back to Nova.
Nova supports all the following:
"Okay Google" voice commands
Custom grid sizes let you specify icon size and placement
Custom images for app icons and folders
Custom launch items, like quick dial and system calls
Gestures to open settings or the app drawer - even launch an application, without clicking an icon
The attached image is my current home page with Nova. The links on the left side are actually application links with and invisible png file for the icon. The app icon on the bottom is a folder with an invisible icon that has all the apps I access frequently.
This setup is using an 8x8 grid with app icon labels hidden.
I've tried quite a few launchers too.
AGAMA is worth a try - I like the multi widgets it has - click the centre Icon and you can change between NAV, SPEED, LOGO, COMPASS, TIME and 1 more I can't remember.
However, nav does not support waze
Does anyone know of a launcher that allows an app to run in a window. FCC has a default view that makes google maps a window and puts buttons round it, but it can't be changed.
My goal is to have waze running in a window taking about half the screen, then the buttons round it - this would then look like a stock car radio screen which is what were all trying to get to with car launchers ?
Have not tried Nova - so guess what I'm going to do for a few hours this afternoon.
P.S. If you havn't uprated your stock android head unit DAB player, look at DAB-Z by zoulou. If you search these forums you'll find the 152 pages of discussions following his development of the app taking everyone's feedback along the way. TOP DOG
i use CAR LAUCHER PRO and it's awesome
it's simple to modify the main theme to yours preferences
also you have the instant speed of the car
I dont need nor want an permanent/built in on screen speedo or music player. My trucks speedo works perfectly fine and I use Pulsar Music Player and it works amazing for my needs. Im really leaning towards Nova I think. Its simple yet offers the customization options that I want. Why do I have to be so darn picky sometimes? haha
Hi!
It is really hard to find a nice car launcher with simple design as Android 6-7-8 Stock. They are a lot of launcher with a lot of theme, but I find them a little bit cheap... It reminds me old Windows XP desktop customisation
Do you have an idea of this kind of launcher ? I don't want to create my own ^^!
markmorto said:
With Nova Launcher, you can customize the icon, name, and even hide all app names if you like. I've tried pretty much all the launchers after having an Android head unit for the last couple of years and always come back to Nova.
Nova supports all the following:
"Okay Google" voice commands
Custom grid sizes let you specify icon size and placement
Custom images for app icons and folders
Custom launch items, like quick dial and system calls
Gestures to open settings or the app drawer - even launch an application, without clicking an icon
The attached image is my current home page with Nova. The links on the left side are actually application links with and invisible png file for the icon. The app icon on the bottom is a folder with an invisible icon that has all the apps I access frequently.
This setup is using an 8x8 grid with app icon labels hidden.
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Great tip with Nova. Just setting it up now. Which app are you using there for radio? Also do you have any alternatives to the standard apps?
KidMarley said:
Great tip with Nova. Just setting it up now. Which app are you using there for radio? Also do you have any alternatives to the standard apps?
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The radio app came with the car stereo, like with pretty much all of the Android stereos on the market. Mine looks different because I modded it after rooting my head unit. If you have a Joying, my radio mods are available with the Joying Extra Tools app at: https://hvdwolf.github.io/Joying-RootAssistant/
@surfer63 is the resident expert on making Joying headunits usable
By standard apps, I'm guessing you mean the music and DVR apps that come with the headunit? I use the music app when I drive with my wife for simplicity, but usually I'm on Spotify or the radio when I drive.
I'm considering trying fcclauncher but it looks like maybe it doesn't support integration on Atoto units the way it does others? Can anyone who's used it chime in with what they used to setup, which option was picked for headunit?
Ive used nova on phones but I kind of don't like the layout of atoto's Bluetooth screens (both the a2dp player and dialer) and I've seen a few of these launchers attempt to skin that and make it better looking and easier to use.
dishe2 said:
I'm considering trying fcclauncher but it looks like maybe it doesn't support integration on Atoto units the way it does others? Can anyone who's used it chime in with what they used to setup, which option was picked for headunit?
Ive used nova on phones but I kind of don't like the layout of atoto's Bluetooth screens (both the a2dp player and dialer) and I've seen a few of these launchers attempt to skin that and make it better looking and easier to use.
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Sorry to say, but a launcher is not able to skin the BT screen.
You really should tell us some details about the used head unit...
First and important is the MCU version and the chipset which is working under the hood.
Some pictures of the "About tablet" would help to see how to setup Fcc.
rigattoni said:
Sorry to say, but a launcher is not able to skin the BT screen.
You really should tell us some details about the used head unit...
First and important is the MCU version and the chipset which is working under the hood.
Some pictures of the "About tablet" would help to see how to setup Fcc.
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Interesting- I'm not looking to skin the screen, but rather change the UI to interact with Bluetooth, treating it like an audio source and making it easier to access things. Atoto, for some reason, treats BT like a second class citizen on their head units. It has widgets for things like Radio, media player, etc but it doesn't have one for Bluetooth audio. The only way to see/interact with A2dp is to have the Bluetooth app open (they call it BT1).
Also annoying re: their widgets is that each does only THAT source, so if you make a home screen that shows the media player and want to see the radio station instead, it's a DIFFERENT widget, usually set up on a different page out of necessity. This is silly for many reasons. And Bluetooth has no option at all.
I tried Vivid launcher and really liked it's ability to do exactly this: give me one 'now playing' widget that took whatever was playing and showed it in the box. Even Bluetooth!!! I was amazed, it even gave me a Bluetooth screen that showed paired devices that made it easy to swap between them if my wife and I are driving the car, all skinned within the UI. It also gave me a much nicer looking dialer interface for making BT calls.
The problem is, vivid seemed to also break audio output for music when doing this. And break some other things too (android auto had trouble connecting as well). So I removed it and I'm now trying to look into others that people recommend, and FCC Launcher comes up a lot. Does it offer what I describe? I can't tell yet bc I need to set it up as "tablet/phone" which doesn't seem to be aware of Bluetooth as a source.
I'm peeved at Atoto for giving us such a quality product with such crummy UI elements.
Device is the Atoto S8 Ultra, attaching photos of info.
dishe2 said:
Interesting- I'm not looking to skin the screen, but rather change the UI to interact with Bluetooth, treating it like an audio source and making it easier to access things. Atoto, for some reason, treats BT like a second class citizen on their head units. It has widgets for things like Radio, media player, etc but it doesn't have one for Bluetooth audio. The only way to see/interact with A2dp is to have the Bluetooth app open (they call it BT1).
Also annoying re: their widgets is that each does only THAT source, so if you make a home screen that shows the media player and want to see the radio station instead, it's a DIFFERENT widget, usually set up on a different page out of necessity. This is silly for many reasons. And Bluetooth has no option at all.
I tried Vivid launcher and really liked it's ability to do exactly this: give me one 'now playing' widget that took whatever was playing and showed it in the box. Even Bluetooth!!! I was amazed, it even gave me a Bluetooth screen that showed paired devices that made it easy to swap between them if my wife and I are driving the car, all skinned within the UI. It also gave me a much nicer looking dialer interface for making BT calls.
The problem is, vivid seemed to also break audio output for music when doing this. And break some other things too (android auto had trouble connecting as well). So I removed it and I'm now trying to look into others that people recommend, and FCC Launcher comes up a lot. Does it offer what I describe? I can't tell yet bc I need to set it up as "tablet/phone" which doesn't seem to be aware of Bluetooth as a source.
I'm peeved at Atoto for giving us such a quality product with such crummy UI elements.
Device is the Atoto S8 Ultra, attaching photos of info.
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You won´t get another dialer UI with Fcc, but you can use the implemented widgets to do some stuff.
Nevertheless: Atoto units are listed in the settings, so should work with your unit.

Joying snapdragon 625..

I just purchased the joying snapdragon 625 11.6 single din... And I'm having some small issues with it. For one, is there any way possible to stop it from closing apps in the background? If you try to run more than two apps in the background it closes them out whether it be music or any other type of app. I went into the settings but it seems joying somehow rewrote the Android software and locked it down so you can make changes like that I've even open developer settings and when I try to change background process limit it changes back to standard limit. It closes launchers,music players and any apps that you run if you run more than two at a time.. it is really quite frustrating and it makes certain launchers get real buggy because they keep trying to open and the unit keeps trying to close them any suggestions on that? And also it won't let me set live wallpapers. It will set them for a minute but then they disappear after a while no matter which one I try Even the ones that came in the unit. And also the default music player is real slow and laggy is there a fix for that I don't mind using the default launcher but it forces me to use the default music player which I don't really care for because it's slow..

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