Is anyone concerned about optimization? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

So as I'm sure everyone here is aware given XDA's articles on it, Samsung phones with the Snapdragon 820 (well, really ALL Samsung phones, but the 820 ones in particular) had some serious performance issues compared to both the Exynos version, as well as other phones with similar Snapdragon processors.
Does anyone have any info or inkling or just general thoughts on whether the S8 series will have similar problems?
Personally, I'm kind of turn, as I was more or less pleased with the performance of my Note 5, but downright can't stand the S7's performance, so I'm kind of torn on what direction I'm going to go with buying the S8 or not.

I always worry Samsung and Qualcomm will screw it up. I wouldn't be surprised if my OnePlus 3T outperforms the Snapdragon S8's.

Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.

CConn882 said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.
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Yea it blows away my old note 5 and nexus 6p by a huge margin

CConn882 said:
Yeah, that's pretty much the exact comparison I've been thinking about.
Of course, I don't think it's even possible for a phone to be faster than the 3T is in day-to-day use.
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Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.

Nitemare3219 said:
Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.
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From my EXTREMELY limited time using the device in store, it seems that Samsung has tightened things up a bit. It's a good bit smoother than last year's 7 and 7 Edge. Everything is noticeably more fluid and I didn't experience any hangs when opening apps.

Anyone else notice the speaker volume extremely low?

Nitemare3219 said:
Oh please. I had zero complaints with my Mate 9 when I had it, and my Pixel XL is perfectly smooth as well. My 7 Plus is a hair smoother sometimes, and that is faster than the 3T.
HOPEFULLY Samsung has their **** together this time, especially with the 835.
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Haha, calm down there. I'm not trying to throw any other phones under the bus, I'm just saying the 3T's performance is impressive.
And, obviously, Apple is usually faster than Android in general.

954wrecker said:
I always worry Samsung and Qualcomm will screw it up. I wouldn't be surprised if my OnePlus 3T outperforms the Snapdragon S8's.
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Hopefully we can get some custom kernel and roms with good performance, I hope Samsung can put more effort on 835 S8.

54wenzhao said:
Hopefully we can get some custom kernel and roms with good performance, I hope Samsung can put more effort on 835 S8.
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Who wants to spoil this for him?

peachpuff said:
Who wants to spoil this for him?
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Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.

54wenzhao said:
Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.
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Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.

954wrecker said:
Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.
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Partially true, the S7 has plenty for the Exynos. It's the Snapdragon variant that won't see any support, if it's locked down again of course.

954wrecker said:
Did you just miss the last few years of Samsung development? You won't be getting custom roms or kernels unless you get a OnePlus.
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My last android phone was LG G3 and last time I use a samsung is Nexus S. I think I missed a lot. Thanks for the head up, I need to reconsider the purchase.

54wenzhao said:
My last android phone was LG G3 and last time I use a samsung is Nexus S. I think I missed a lot. Thanks for the head up, I need to reconsider the purchase.
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if you only care about custom roms then don't get a samsung, but if you care about camera, screen, build.......get the S8

54wenzhao said:
Should I cancel the order and get a international version? Hard to decide when you can get free gear VR.
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i think even the exynos get a lot of more support than the snapdragon one
assuming how the snap 820 was, the Xiaomi Mi5, One Plus 3, got really a lot lot of custom roms, meanwhile LG G5 and HTC 10 not much, meanwhile the S7 Edge, as i can see in the forum, has nothing for the 820
I assume now the Xiaomi Mi6 will have a lot of custom roms, with the Snapdragon 835, i don't know about other future phones with this besides the S8, but i'm sure the Exynos S8 will get more community support than the Snapdragon One

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i think even the exynos get a lot of more support than the snapdragon one
assuming how the snap 820 was, the Xiaomi Mi5, One Plus 3, got really a lot lot of custom roms, meanwhile LG G5 and HTC 10 not much, meanwhile the S7 Edge, as i can see in the forum, has nothing for the 820
I assume now the Xiaomi Mi6 will have a lot of custom roms, with the Snapdragon 835, i don't know about other future phones with this besides the S8, but i'm sure the Exynos S8 will get more community support than the Snapdragon One
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I'll never buy another Xiaomi. They violate Googles policy and take forever to release the kernel source. They won't even bother until the next model is out. Also, they have below par camera's and are slow with important updates. Their idea of a firmware update is to add something to the calculator, or improve their forum app. Lol. Downloading an entire ROM for that is a joke. Can't wait to sell my Mi 5s Plus.
Oneplus is the best way to go for custom ROM's. I wouldn't choose a phone just for that though, each to their own I guess.

Highspeed123 said:
I'll never buy another Xiaomi. They violate Googles policy and take forever to release the kernel source. They won't even bother until the next model is out. Also, they have below par camera's and are slow with important updates. Their idea of a firmware update is to add something to the calculator, or improve their forum app. Lol. Downloading an entire ROM for that is a joke. Can't wait to sell my Mi 5s Plus.
Oneplus is the best way to go for custom ROM's. I wouldn't choose a phone just for that though, each to their own I guess.
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i have a Xiaomi Mi 5 and i won't say that you are wrong lol, the camera is not the best in any means
anyways i'm guided to buy a phone by it performance and no other things, but that is just my case, so i'm good with the Mi5
the Mi 5s has Snap 821 if i'm not wrong? same as the OnePlus 3T, but it seems the 3T has a lot more roms than the Mi5S (and Mi Mix, this phone has Snap 821 too)

abdelha said:
if you only care about custom roms then don't get a samsung, but if you care about camera, screen, build.......get the S8
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All I want is root..that bout it

mlock420 said:
All I want is root..that bout it
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there is root for every device....

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Galaxy S6 Edge plus, or 6P?

Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.
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Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.
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For T-mobile and Sprint users the s6 + note 5 are the kings of all cell phones. The samsung phones beat the nexus 6p in every category. People on Verizon and AT&T it's best to switch to Nexus 6p because we have lock bootloaders, super slow updates etc.. I have a note 5 verizon and I'm switching, but when it comes to specs the nexus 6p can't even get close to the note 5. I'm going to do a youtube video before selling my note 5 once I get my nexus 6p.
MCASTILLO said:
Hello all.
I have T Mobile jump on demand, and right now I have galaxy S6 Edge plus, but I have always used the nexus phone. Does anyone know if next nexus will be better than S6 edge plus? with this new jump from T Mobile, we have the option to do three changes, I love nexus phones, but S6 Edge plus is amazing. What do you think, nexus 6P, or S6 Edge Plus?
Thank you for your answers.
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It's better because the boot loader is not locked and it doesn't have carrier bloat.
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For T-mobile and Sprint users the s6 + note 5 are the kings of all cell phones. The samsung phones beat the nexus 6p in every category. People on Verizon and AT&T it's best to switch to Nexus 6p because we have lock bootloaders, super slow updates etc.. I have a note 5 verizon and I'm switching, but when it comes to specs the nexus 6p can't even get close to the note 5. I'm going to do a youtube video before selling my note 5 once I get my nexus 6p.
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Better in terms of HW on paper. But SW wise nexus will always be king. In terms of a fluid UI that is. Hopefully google really optimized battery life this time around to complete with OEM's. You want a fluid device with the fastest updates and good HW ... Nexus all the way.
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Yep Nexus rules...its a XDA thing!
i was asking myself that exact same question, especially cuz here in Germany the S6E+ and the 6P will only be about 30€ apart (ikr, insane.... one of those rare instances where i wished i was in the US! ugh)
anyways, bottom line was that id still be going for the 6P, im just too much of a nexus fanboy direct and clean android updates, tons of custom roms, larger battery and, tbh, better looking design did it for me!
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i was asking myself that exact same question, especially cuz here in Germany the S6E+ and the 6P will only be about 30€ apart (ikr, insane.... one of those rare instances where i wished i was in the US! ugh)
anyways, bottom line was that id still be going for the 6P, im just too much of a nexus fanboy direct and clean android updates, tons of custom roms, larger battery and, tbh, better looking design did it for me!
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im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.
Samsung is a no go. KNOX on Samsung has me running away.
Thankful
I appreciate your responses, definitely I am going back to the nexus devices.
Does anyone know when it will be available in the different carriers, here in US?
Again, thank you all.
Gungrave223 said:
im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.
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Why do you assume when this is NOT TRUE.
Greg Joplin
If any carriers in the US does not sell 6P, jump on demand from T Mobile will be useless, I am very disappointed, I bought S6 Edge with jump, thinking changing it for Nexus 6P, what do we do now!
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Why do you assume when this is NOT TRUE.
Greg Joplin
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Not really sure where the assumption is. Not including the the SD 810v1, if you look up the OnePlus 2 which have v2 it stills suffers from performance issues, heating issues, and throttling issue....so remind me what it is that I'm assuming again unless this SD 810 is actually the 820 in disguise
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im kinda disappointed... the 810 processor have been killing phones all year. And see as how its underclocked in the 6p one can only assume that it still sucks.
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how is it underclocked? its at 2 ghz, SD810 doesnt get any higher according to official qualcomm specs...
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how is it underclocked? its at 2 ghz, SD810 doesnt get any higher according to official qualcomm specs...
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Yep you're right it isn't, but the jury is still out performance wise
I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.
clorbag said:
I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.
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The only way would be the better thermal efficiency of the Exynos.
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The only way would be the better thermal efficiency of the Exynos.
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That's what I'm thinking seems lame people are saying it is better hardware wise in a phone that hasn't been even reviewed yet. Exynos doesn't even have any great support but that's a software thing.
Once you've tasted Exynos you'll never want it again. No sane dev wants to waste the time on that crap. Factor in KNOX, LagWiz and Samsung's notoriously bad "support" if you ever need 'em, makes it an easy choice. If you need/want root it's even easier unless you want a goofy "warranty void" message every bootup.
Meanwhile all the Nexuses will be on Android N this time next year and the Note 5 will be abandonware in classic Samsung fashion, all the dev forums will be barren except a few old hacked stock-ish roms. Even Samsung doesn't like to support Exynos
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I'm failing to see how the s6+ and note 5 are smashin the 6p in the HW department. They are very comparable in specs.
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They are comparable on specs but the note is overall better in hardware. I will say the nexus is on par with the 6S plus.
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you simply cant compare specs between the iphone and android phones. ios requires so much less horsepower

Upgrading to LG V10

I Didn't know where to put this thread so I am simply putting it here in general tab.
Do you guys think upgrading to LG v10 is a good idea?
thing sounds really cool except the processor (snappy 808) which is kinda making me think that its just not the time. Especially now that I know exynos chips are providing way better performance but I really like the features and all. Always have been a power user but ended up buying crappy devices. Every device had its down point somehow. Lg g3 has 2k too much for processor scenes and like that.
I don't want Knox so I don't wanna go down Samsung road if there is no development. After all XDA is what keeps devices newer even after 4 years :')
How many of you think/are considering that upgrading is a good idea?
They should wait with "Premium" device for new Snapdragons. Or atleast use 810 v2.0
That's why im waiting for 2016 flagships
Imagine how good the G5 will be, that's my next phone
The best time to upgrade to a newer device is at the beginning of a year. If you're thinking about buying a new device now, manufacturers are going to release their premium flagship devices in about 4 months.
This means that you'll be happy with a new phone now, but you'll want to swap it in 4 months. If you wait, you'll at least get a whole year on a really nice premium device, or if you're like me, 2 years so the upgrade actually feels like a big leap forward
Geme geme
Just Pre-Ordered the V10, Got the G3 on DAY 1 as well, so this will be a Leap Forward me...LOL
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I Didn't know where to put this thread so I am simply putting it here in general tab.
Do you guys think upgrading to LG v10 is a good idea?
thing sounds really cool except the processor (snappy 808) which is kinda making me think that its just not the time. Especially now that I know exynos chips are providing way better performance but I really like the features and all. Always have been a power user but ended up buying crappy devices. Every device had its down point somehow. Lg g3 has 2k too much for processor scenes and like that.
I don't want Knox so I don't wanna go down Samsung road if there is no development. After all XDA is what keeps devices newer even after 4 years :')
How many of you think/are considering that upgrading is a good idea?
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Knox is already in Lollipop..at least parts of it. Knox doesn't stop root or development. Locked bootloaders and DM-verity are what is killing Samsung Development. When the 2 biggest carriers in the US lock down their devices so as to make permanent root as of yet impossible, developers will leave for something else. Marshmallow will be even tougher. If you want a future proof device then you should look at Nexus devices. Otherwise wait and see how root and development turn out for the G5.
My lg g3 sucks at lollipop due to minor transition lags in notif tray and stuff, which i dont like. I will leave Lg asap
I am confuse about V10 position.
It is not a PRO like G PRO 2.
It is not a LG G5.
I will wait for LG G5.
I am waiting for lg v10.. This phone is the best phone till now
Exactly , it's a good idea ....indeed
It's upgrate the camera , memory, processor and the screen ...
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I would like to check this one out but I have to wait on my company to test and approve the phone before I can request it (corporations...). My G3 is more stable, fast, and usable than ever on XenonHD 5.1.1...
Pisses me off royally that sprint isn't getting the V10, I want it bad!
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raghavsharmaxda said:
I Didn't know where to put this thread so I am simply putting it here in general tab.
Do you guys think upgrading to LG v10 is a good idea?
thing sounds really cool except the processor (snappy 808) which is kinda making me think that its just not the time. Especially now that I know exynos chips are providing way better performance but I really like the features and all. Always have been a power user but ended up buying crappy devices. Every device had its down point somehow. Lg g3 has 2k too much for processor scenes and like that.
I don't want Knox so I don't wanna go down Samsung road if there is no development. After all XDA is what keeps devices newer even after 4 years :')
How many of you think/are considering that upgrading is a good idea?
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Probably wait for the v20 and see what that looks like. G3 is still getting the job done for me.
ramnoob said:
My lg g3 sucks at lollipop due to minor transition lags in notif tray and stuff, which i dont like. I will leave Lg asap
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Upgrade to CM13, you´ll love your G3 without any lags
thanks but
Ernesto0023 said:
Upgrade to CM13, you´ll love your G3 without any lags
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Thanks for the advice but the problem is i prefer stock and really like it, i wish there was a better lollipop stock rom
ramnoob said:
Thanks for the advice but the problem is i prefer stock and really like it, i wish there was a better lollipop stock rom
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After i bought my G3 i tested stock rom for about 10 Minutes and in the next 10 Minutes i saw CM booting it up - in my opinion so much better then stock isn´t comparable
But it´s your decision
Skipping this generation. Next year will upgrade
Decepticaons said:
Pisses me off royally that sprint isn't getting the V10, I want it bad!
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Supposedly they're going to be selling them in December.
Wj287 said:
Supposedly they're going to be selling them in December.
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I was thinking seriously about getting the V10, and even went to the AT&T store to check one out. But considering the $700.00 price tag to buy one outright, I think I'll get the 32GB Moto X Pure Edition instead.

Mi Mix EVO with Snapdragon 835 leaked on Geekbench

Looks like there is a higher-end variant of the Mi Mix in the horizon called the Mi Mix Evo. Leaked Geekbench screenshot shows Snapdragon 835 and 4GB of RAM.
I wonder whether it will have a better camera sensor.
I'm not worried about the Snapdragon 835. I knew there were many new devices from Samsung, LG and the like with better specs than the Mix, coming out soon.
I expected the Mix to be a "one of a kind" device for a while, like how the Xperia Z Ultra was, at one point of time.
If the rumors pan out to be true, the fact that it may change that, is a bit disappointing I guess.
Moreover, judging from Xiaomi's history with previous devices, it doesn't look like we may see a lot of development for the device. Add to the fact, a very small community of us here and an even smaller community of users at the MIUI forums.
Does anyone regret buying the Mix, considering the Mix Evo would be sold at a similar price?
Source: GSMArena
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No regrets
@vergilbt I agree..
Not at all.
Sent from my MIghty Mix.
This would be cool if it has something other than a ceramic or glass body.
It'd be refreshing to have a ruggedized shell/display,no need for a case.
Otherwise, I don't have regrets.
Worldwide 2G/3G/4G/LTE support would be the main spec to consider trading up.
An I-R Blaster & wireless charging would seal the deal.
There's a lot of nice phones hitting the market soon,most of us here will be experiencing some measure of buyers remorse, especially if you're strictly a one-phone-at-a-time user.
HTC's latest U Series devices look nice.The Ultra is tempting (for me),but, I'm passing.
Besides,they will likely introduce yet another flagship @ MWC.Ditto with Huawei (P10), Samsung & LG.
It's a vicious nonstop cycle that's a real Love/Hate experience for those of us who use little to no restraint in trying out virtually everything on the market. ?
With that said, I'm outta here for a bit,got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro that just delivered & a Huawei Mate 9 delivering tomorrow.
An intervention is definitely in order,LOL......?
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With that said, I'm outta here for a bit,got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro that just delivered & a Huawei Mate 9 delivering tomorrow.
An intervention is definitely in order,LOL......?
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Do you sell off all your old devices or keep them? I buy mine outright and mostly keep them. When my cycle hit 6 months I had to grab myself by the neck and slow it down. Can't let this consumerism consume me :laugh:
benziii said:
Do you sell off all your old devices or keep them? I buy mine outright and mostly keep them. When my cycle hit 6 months I had to grab myself by the neck and slow it down. Can't let this consumerism consume me :laugh:
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Most of my phone deals have been leases via T-Mobile's JumpOnDemand.
I've sold a few,not many,but, the trio of Xiaomi Mi MIX/Redmi Note 3 Pro/Huawei Mate 9 look to be long-term keepers,having buying them outright.
If I do need to thin the herd,I'll list 'em on Swappa,as other sites/private sales net only a fraction of their worth.
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I have to admit that I'm pretty annoyed by this news. I literally just ordered this phone a day ago and they are already anouncing a better variant? Like I didn't have enough buyers regret already
SantinoInc said:
I have to admit that I'm pretty annoyed by this news. I literally just ordered this phone a day ago and they are already anouncing a better variant? Like I didn't have enough buyers regret already
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Couldn't have said it better myself,LOL......
Considering returning for a refund?
I know this is a PITA & a little bit of extra expense,but,if the rumors pan out...................................
KOLIOSIS said:
Couldn't have said it better myself,LOL......
Considering returning for a refund?
I know this is a PITA & a little bit of extra expense,but,if the rumors pan out...................................
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I got a serious phone problem. I'm currently on the S7 which I have no complaints about but I always need something new. I always like MIUI though so hopefully I'll enjoy this phone and be content with it for a while.
SantinoInc said:
I got a serious phone problem. I'm currently on the S7 which I have no complaints about but I always need something new. I always like MIUI though so hopefully I'll enjoy this phone and be content with it for a while.
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Been chasing that same Android Unicorn for five or six years now,kinda made a New Years resolution to curb it a bit ,but,as you,not successful,two new phones this month alone,not counting the Mix..........
I rationalize my habit by telling myself "I could be doing worse things"............
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Been chasing that same Android Unicorn for five or six years now,kinda made a New Years resolution to curb it a bit ,but,as you,not successful,two new phones this month alone,not counting the Mix..........
I rationalize my habit by telling myself "I could be doing worse things"............
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Hey, since I have your ear what's your current setup for this phone? Did you root and install TWRP? What ROM are you running? Any Xposed?
SantinoInc said:
Hey, since I have your ear what's your current setup for this phone? Did you root and install TWRP? What ROM are you running? Any Xposed?
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My phone came with an unlocked bootloader.
As soon as I realized that, I installed TWRP,made a backup of whatever was on my phone & jumped to the EU ROM,switched seamlessly to GlobeROM (very similar).
I have most MIUI/Xiaomi apps disabled,using SD Maid Pro.
Using Nova Launcher Pro & MIUI Xposed,I believe there's a thread here somewhere with the links for the proper version of Xposed for MIUI 8.
If not,just ping me & I'll post/PM 'em to you.......
In photography we call that Gear Acquisition Syndrome (gas).
The way I fixed it is to use the older generation for a while. I had a pretty serious issue with phones before but was forced to use my original xperia z1 after g4 had bootloop issue.
Turns out the z1 is so lovable that I didn't even bother fixing the g4. I only got the mix since it's one of a kind phone.
The hardware upgrade is getting insignificant. Even with a 50% battery improvement on the mix, it wouldn't be that important since the original mix is already pretty damn good.
SantinoInc said:
I have to admit that I'm pretty annoyed by this news. I literally just ordered this phone a day ago and they are already anouncing a better variant? Like I didn't have enough buyers regret already
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KOLIOSIS said:
Couldn't have said it better myself,LOL......
Considering returning for a refund?
I know this is a PITA & a little bit of extra expense,but,if the rumors pan out...................................
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Got this device just a few weeks back. I knew there were next gen phones with next gen specs coming out around Feb- March, which didn't bother me much. I bought the Mix, knowing this is a unique device. If an upgraded version hits the market too soon,, it will significantly diminish the value of the Original Mix. Moreover, we may not see much in terms of development if the interest for this device goes down too soon. And considering Xiaomi isn't very good at releasing kernel sources, we may even be on Marshmallow for a long long time. And that kinda sucks, especially for people who don't switch phones too often!
Before people start getting too pissed off, bear in mind the sheer volume of fake rumours that surface in relation to Xiaomi handsets - probably more even than for Samsung or Apple.
There's already been the debunked news about the Mi Mix Nano, not to mention the rumoured SD821-toting Mi S that never materialised, the rumours about a Mi 5C that have so far come to naught and a lot of Mi Note 2 rumours that turned out to be incorrect.
For all we know, that's just a test unit for the SD835 Xiaomi are using that's been given some random name - or even a completely faked benchmark.
Step666 said:
Before people start getting too pissed off, bear in mind the sheer volume of fake rumours that surface in relation to Xiaomi handsets - probably more even than for Samsung or Apple.
There's already been the debunked news about the Mi Mix Nano, not to mention the rumoured SD821-toting Mi S that never materialised, the rumours about a Mi 5C that have so far come to naught and a lot of Mi Note 2 rumours that turned out to be incorrect.
For all we know, that's just a test unit for the SD835 Xiaomi are using that's been given some random name - or even a completely faked benchmark.
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Good call all around. :good:
Most of the angst is tongue-in-cheek,most here know how the life cycle of the smartphone scene is in constant change.
Those truly upset would do better to find a hobby that's just as consuming,but,easier on the wallet,or,focus on finding the best in the low-to-midrange segment (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro,OnePlus,etc.....)
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Step666 said:
Before people start getting too pissed off, bear in mind the sheer volume of fake rumours that surface in relation to Xiaomi handsets - probably more even than for Samsung or Apple.
There's already been the debunked news about the Mi Mix Nano, not to mention the rumoured SD821-toting Mi S that never materialised, the rumours about a Mi 5C that have so far come to naught and a lot of Mi Note 2 rumours that turned out to be incorrect.
For all we know, that's just a test unit for the SD835 Xiaomi are using that's been given some random name - or even a completely faked benchmark.
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KOLIOSIS said:
Good call all around. :good:
Most of the angst is tongue-in-cheek,most here know how the life cycle of the smartphone scene is in constant change.
Those truly upset would do better to find a hobby that's just as consuming,but,easier on the wallet,or,focus on finding the best in the low-to-midrange segment (Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro,OnePlus,etc.....)
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Just hoping Xiaomi releases Kernel source for this device. As long as we see some real development for this device, I don't have any problems even if they bring one with Snapdragon 840.
The oneplus 3/3T has some really good ROMs, is based on the same chipset and if we have the source for the Mix, guess we can port a few ROMs. AOSP or CM anyone?
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Just hoping Xiaomi releases Kernel source for this device. As long as we see some real development for this device, I don't have any problems even if they bring one with Snapdragon 840.
The oneplus 3/3T has some really good ROMs, is based on the same chipset and if we have the source for the Mix, guess we can port a few ROMs. AOSP or CM anyone?
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Nothing like forced perspective to appreciate the MIX:
1) Just finished setting up my Redmi Note3 Pro & while it's definitely a great device, arguably the best bang for the buck available,it can't hold a candle to the Mix.
2) Same with my Samsung Galaxy Note4,is still a great phone,but,even with its S-Pen/I-R Blaster/expandable storage & removable battery, I'd pick the MIX without any hesitation.The performance/display/battery life are outstanding, exceeding expectations big time.
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Good call all around. :good:
Most of the angst is tongue-in-cheek,most here know how the life cycle of the smartphone scene is in constant change.
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Don't get me wrong, I completely get how frustrating it is to shell out for something and have it be superceded shortly after, even when you know it's likely to happen.
And should Xiaomi turn around and announce a superior Mi Mix a couple of months after I got mine, I'd be first in line to whine about it.
But having spent something like 10 months last year waiting for a phone I wanted to splash out on, I've come to realise just how low the wheat-to-chaff ratio is with Xiaomi rumours. So I'll hold off on complaining until I know for a fact what's happening
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The oneplus 3/3T has some really good ROMs, is based on the same chipset and if we have the source for the Mix, guess we can port a few ROMs. AOSP or CM anyone?
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Each to their own, of course, but for me a huge part of the appeal of the Mi Mix is MIUI - any other ROM would feel like know was losing part of what makes the Mix so great.

Looking to buy OP 2; couple questions

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
Techgod said:
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
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Care to elaborate?
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support. Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at all. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support ? Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to go for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
Fobos531 said:
While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
casual_kikoo said:
You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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Sadly there are no entries for my market (Europe). However, browsing Ebay, I found a listing claiming they have a new OP 3T 64 GB at $352 "in perfect condition". The seller states: "Bought as Anniversary present. To be honest it's a lovely phone if you like Android But I wanted an iPhone. My wife thought I'd like this instead. Used for 2 hrs around the house and that's all. "
How legit do you think this is?
Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile​ now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile​ now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
Fobos531 said:
Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
amitgudwill said:
Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
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Seems reasonable. I might as well wait for G5+ and buy it when it becomes available. Thank you once again.
Take my advice and don't buy it.
So did you go for the OP2?
The G5 looks like a good alternative!
no save your hard earned money and buy a better phone, this is already a 2 year old phone and its not worth buying anymore, otherwise if you find a new one for just $50 bucks go for it otherwise forget this phone even existed.

Samsung S8 with Exynos

Hello,
Planning to buy the S8, but only the Exynos variants are available where I live. I want to know whether the rom support will be the same for the exynos variant just as the snapdragon variant. Should I pay extra couple of bucks to order the snapdragon variant from somewhere else?
Or should I just wait for the OnePlus 5?
Thank You
There are a few custom ROM for Exynos S8
I'm not sure there is anyone for the Snapdragon S8, locked bootloader. I'm not even sure you can root a S8 snapdragon variant
But no AOSP for any S8, if you want anything else than Touchwiz ROMs, OP5 would be best for you
if you are a custom rom guy, then oneplus 5 is definitely for you. although i was pretty disappointed with the oneplus 3 when i got it. hopefully 5 will be different but i wont switch to a Chinese phone from my beautiful s8
timrock7 said:
if you are a custom rom guy, then oneplus 5 is definitely for you. although i was pretty disappointed with the oneplus 3 when i got it. hopefully 5 will be different but i wont switch to a Chinese phone from my beautiful s8
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Why were you disapointed ?
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Why were you disapointed ?
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Well all of these little things that reviewers dont mention like the wifi reception being poor, vibration motor being weak, speakers really bad, camera quality pretty bad, lte reception pretty bad (i live in eu) so you things stacked up to a point where i decided to switch back to samsung and i dont regret it at all. But by all means buy the op5 and try it out.
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Well all of these little things that reviewers dont mention like the wifi reception being poor, vibration motor being weak, speakers really bad, camera quality pretty bad, lte reception pretty bad (i live in eu) so you things stacked up to a point where i decided to switch back to samsung and i dont regret it at all. But by all means buy the op5 and try it out.
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But any AOSP ROM on any device causes these problems, right ?
so wait no roms like RR,Carbon etc will be available on the S8 with Exynos?
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so wait no roms like RR,Carbon etc will be available on the S8 with Exynos?
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They maybe available with exynos. Not snapdragon they have locked bootloaders. Chances are you wont be able to root snapdragon or custom ROM.

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