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Greetings!
My name is Daniel Sloof and together with a group of volunteers we have recently been working on a project called Mangler: a Ventrilo compatible client for linux. Mangler is driven by a C library called libventrilo3 and over the past couple of weeks I have been working on making this library compile with the Android-NDK. I am currently succesfully able to build libventrilo3 as a native library that can be used in Android applications. The JNI wrappers are a little lackluster, but they are being worked on.
The main reason for me posting on this forum (amongst others) is because I am looking for skilled Android/Java developers to assist us in working on this open-source project. We're mostly C programmers that have very little Android experience. I expect we could have something functional up within the month, most of the work has already been done: we're pretty much just writing a GUI for an existing backend (and some audio stuff, which is just feeding PCM to one of the native functions).
Thanks for reading! If by this point you're interested in participating or have any specific questions you can just post them here or drop by on IRC. You can find me on freenode #mangler (alias: danslo).
Im so excited for this project! I hope this goes well.
Time for an update and a quick *bump*.
More progress has been made making libventrilo suitable for Android usage. This primarily involves audio stuff, such as upsampling to rates that Android's AudioRecord doesn't support. Buffering in the Android App is still required but this can be done with minimal effort. Of course all of this (and future) progress can be found on our website.
There have also been some android developers peaking around in the IRC channel but no active developer has yet been found, feel free to drop by.
(PS: To moderators: I am cross-posting this on several Android Forums. If this is considered spam, please feel free to take appropriate measures.)
What is your website, I'd like to track your progress.
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What is your website, I'd like to track your progress.
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You can find us at mangler (dot) org though
<-- so happy to see this!~!!
*bump* - still looking for developers
Bump & small update!
I've just managed to record audio on my android device and send it to our ventrilo test server. Even with just 8khz quality (for testing purposes) the transmission sounds loud and clear on my ventrilo client! There is a small bit of delay but that doesn't seem to be caused by either the connection or the speed of the device (HTC Magic); it can probably be fixed with relative ease.
That being said, looks like we've found an Android developer willing to work on the project, but nothing is for certain so we're still looking for decent Java/Android developers to help out.
And up up we go!
Current revision in our repository can now play received audio transmissions! Once that is worked out nicely, all we'll really need is a decent GUI and some minor modifications (process more library events, etc) and we're good to go.
That spot for Android/Java developer is still available
danslo said:
And up up we go!
Current revision in our repository can now play received audio transmissions! Once that is worked out nicely, all we'll really need is a decent GUI and some minor modifications (process more library events, etc) and we're good to go.
That spot for Android/Java developer is still available
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Way to go keep up the good work, can't wait to give it a whirl.
People dont seem to understand the potential of this, what a shame. there should be 100 guys clamoring to do this. if i coded i would be all over this.
Looking forward to seeing what comes of this!
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People dont seem to understand the potential of this, what a shame. there should be 100 guys clamoring to do this. if i coded i would be all over this.
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Unfortunately those are the responses we get most of the time Thanks for the support!
I noticed on your website that you recommend Mumble, which I've been a huge fan and contributor since 2007. Any reason not to make Mumble for Android? It's my #1 most wanted app (I've got money on it) and I've heard from quite a few other people who want it, but hardly anyone with the skills/resources to make it happen. Then again it looks like you're in a similar situation, yet still the most qualified.
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I noticed on your website that you recommend Mumble, which I've been a huge fan and contributor since 2007. Any reason not to make Mumble for Android? It's my #1 most wanted app (I've got money on it) and I've heard from quite a few other people who want it, but hardly anyone with the skills/resources to make it happen. Then again it looks like you're in a similar situation, yet still the most qualified.
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Several reasons:
1) I've never worked on Mumble. (I am very familiar with the ventrilo protocol and written quite a chunk of our ventrilo library)
2) It's written in C++, which is not by default supported by the Android NDK. (unlike libventrilo3 which is written in plain C)
3) Mangler seperates a ventrilo library from its GUI interface, which makes it easy to write seperate interfaces to the same library. As far as I know this is not the case with Mumble.
Don't get me wrong, I (we?) think that Mumble is one of the better alternatives for desktop environments.. but Android places some restrictions that are difficult to overcome with the way Mumble was designed.
I hope that answers your question.
Fair enough. I will continue my search.
As I hear from some developers in the Mumble community, the main limitation is the lack of Qt support for Android, but there may be a way to work around the need for Qt. I'm not a programmer (I hope eventually), so I wouldn't know how difficult such a task would be by any standard.
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Fair enough. I will continue my search.
As I hear from some developers in the Mumble community, the main limitation is the lack of Qt support for Android, but there may be a way to work around the need for Qt. I'm not a programmer (I hope eventually), so I wouldn't know how difficult such a task would be by any standard.
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There's pretty much a lack of any GUI toolkit on Android (that includes Qt, but also Gtk, wxWidgets, etc). You are pretty much confined to writing it in Java with the Android SDK. Which isn't really a big issue; you want your stuff to feel like -actual- android apps anyway. The real problem with Mumble integration is the Android NDK's lack of proper (official) C++ support and a way of interfacing with the Mumble network protocol without touching any of the audio/gui stuff.
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Fair enough. I will continue my search.
As I hear from some developers in the Mumble community, the main limitation is the lack of Qt support for Android, but there may be a way to work around the need for Qt. I'm not a programmer (I hope eventually), so I wouldn't know how difficult such a task would be by any standard.
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There is a Qt port for Android underway, so this might help the port once it gets completed.
I've gone off-topic for long enough, but couldn't resist to post. Some dude named pcgod in our mangler IRC channel is working on a Mumble port for Android.. Git repository can be found here:
http://github.com/pcgod/mumble-android
In regards to Mangler... only thing we really still need is a GUI.
Checking out the svn of the project it seems that some work has already been done. Do you only need the GUI now? or the audio stuff too like you wrote in your first post?
EDIT: I just tried it, it manages to login and I can see that there are some users in the test server but how do I start a conversation?
Hey lovely community !:laugh:
so guys after the "fight" in the [DEV] thread about developing CM 10.x ...
The thread got closed ! So whats now ?
Will shaaaaan or any other DEV's going on working on this or not ?
I hope you get the the things in the right way ... :highfive:
LOVE YOU <3
Let's forget about CM for a while. Shaan from the first time is speaking for his Samsung Galaxy S Advance and he's got some problem too. Even if he success build the CM for his device, we need someone to port it into GS 3 Mini, so we're far from fully workng CM. So let's wait oliver and the other who really concern about our device GS 3 Mini.
Hey!
Sincerly from my opinion that "fight" was really child`ish. I didnt make a backgroung check on Mac and i dont care what he did in the past as long as he can make something viable for our phones. We can all be "condemned" for not folowing the GNU licence agrement at some point. Anyway its bad that we lost a DEV because some ppl have pride. Afaik the licence doesnt obligate anyone to share, it give you the right to share.
PS: English is not my native language so dont flame about my speling mistake.
PS2: This is just my opinion so take it as is.
Really upset to see that the devellopers where almost done with the first operationnelle version and now everything is gone due to personal ego's!
Unfortunatly I do not have developer skills
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ztandroid said:
Let's forget about CM for a while. Shaan from the first time is speaking for his Samsung Galaxy S Advance and he's got some problem too. Even if he success build the CM for his device, we need someone to port it into GS 3 Mini, so we're far from fully workng CM. So let's wait oliver and the other who really concern about our device GS 3 Mini.
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I'm very unhappy to hear this but ok ...so we have to wait now
But I'm also an owner of the Galaxy Ace device and if I remember rightly there were a lot of Problems too with Maclaw ... but in anyways he is a good Dev.
Enjoy your week!
And sorry for my english ...
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Lol, it was kind of fun. But to bad we have no cm.
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Search about Maclaw and GNU first, then judge..
Maclaw break the rules
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Hey!
Sincerly from my opinion that "fight" was really child`ish. I didnt make a backgroung check on Mac and i dont care what he did in the past as long as he can make something viable for our phones. We can all be "condemned" for not folowing the GNU licence agrement at some point. Anyway its bad that we lost a DEV because some ppl have pride. Afaik the licence doesnt obligate anyone to share, it give you the right to share.
PS: English is not my native language so dont flame about my speling mistake.
PS2: This is just my opinion so take it as is.
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I respect your opinion, but GNU and GPL clearly state that you HAVE TO SHARE THE SOURCE!
I do not respond to tech support via PM
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Really upset to see that the devellopers where almost done with the first operationnelle version and now everything is gone due to personal ego's!
Unfortunatly I do not have developer skills
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Had maclaw given any proof to prove that he had a operational build? Screenshots or something?
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As a matter of fact he did on his webpage, but he removed it because the thread got closed meaning he's stopped the development.
Yes he had pictures with S3 mini booting CM 10 on his website.
Regarding the GNU-GPL licence...well after taking a closer look and reading carefuly i can say I was wrong and u was right. My appologies.
Anyway we could of given him some time .... maibe he whould of shared it. IDK.
Here is the passage from the GNU-GPL licence to make everything clear to everyone :
"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.
To protect your rights, we need to prevent others from denying you these rights or asking you to surrender the rights. Therefore, you have certain responsibilities if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it: responsibilities to respect the freedom of others.
For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights."
Best regards.
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As a matter of fact he did on his webpage, but he removed it because the thread got closed meaning he's stopped the development.
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Not pics about cm booting. Afaik, oliver made a booting cm.
Did he post pics of the stuff he said he fixed?
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Yes he had pictures with S3 mini booting CM 10 on his website.
Regarding the GNU-GPL licence...well after taking a closer look and reading carefuly i can say I was wrong and u was right. My appologies.
Anyway we could of given him some time .... maibe he whould of shared it. IDK.
Here is the passage from the GNU-GPL licence to make everything clear to everyone :
"When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not price. Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for them if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it in new free programs, and that you know you can do these things.
To protect your rights, we need to prevent others from denying you these rights or asking you to surrender the rights. Therefore, you have certain responsibilities if you distribute copies of the software, or if you modify it: responsibilities to respect the freedom of others.
For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must pass on to the recipients the same freedoms that you received. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights."
Best regards.
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Well. He isn't new to xda. He should have followed the rules.
As i already said in the thread, i had no problems if he shared the source when he released the rom. But then, there was no use ot the thread!
If he didn't want to share the source before releasing the rom, he shouldn't have had made that thread in the first place. If he did create the thread, it means he was seeking attention.
Also, did he or did he not ask for donation, before even releasing a single build?
I have seen his ways. That's why i resented.
Also, if he is a real dev, such petty things shouldn't stop him from contributing to the community!
./rant
If you are reading this text, it means that i am too busy currently and won't be tendering any support questions via PM
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leave it at that
thread was closed
we should do the same and move on
end of the day we should all be here for the same reason
to help out to improve and add functionality to our phones
don't let one bad apple ruin the whole bunch move on
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Not pics about cm booting. Afaik, oliver made a booting cm.
Did he post pics of the stuff he said he fixed?
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RIL (call/messages/3G) were fixed from the looks of it.
hi shaaan....i saw that you are from galaxy s advance (same hardware of galaxy s3 mini).....in this evening i will re-start develop from cm10 and stop kernel develop.....(hope that i don't must work)...tomorrow i have 4 days free and i will spend to develop cm10. As i can see Oliver did a great work so i will start from that sources and every change i will publish on his repository. anyway....can you start doing some modifies with your work? The point is this: maclaw after a first compilation had various things working SO he must did something really simple.....such as changing something in BoardConfig.mk. After searching some i founded that we are missing something in this file for RIL problems that can work for our devices (start from there it is the main problem for now). add these in your boardconfig and see if work ( i am at work now and i can't test )
# RIL
BOARD_MOBILEDATA_INTERFACE_NAME := "pdp0"
#SPECIFIED SECRIL(need this to work??/)
BOARD_USES_LIBSECRIL_STUB := true
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As a matter of fact he did on his webpage, but he removed it because the thread got closed meaning he's stopped the development.
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Well that was a very mature move. He cand allways open a new one and post a build if he wanted.
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hi shaaan....i saw that you are from galaxy s advance (same hardware of galaxy s3 mini).....in this evening i will re-start develop from cm10 and stop kernel develop.....(hope that i don't must work)...tomorrow i have 4 days free and i will spend to develop cm10. As i can see Oliver did a great work so i will start from that sources and every change i will publish on his repository. anyway....can you start doing some modifies with your work? The point is this: maclaw after a first compilation had various things working SO he must did something really simple.....such as changing something in BoardConfig.mk. After searching some i founded that we are missing something in this file for RIL problems that can work for our devices (start from there it is the main problem for now). add these in your boardconfig and see if work ( i am at work now and i can't test )
# RIL
BOARD_MOBILEDATA_INTERFACE_NAME := "pdp0"
#SPECIFIED SECRIL(need this to work??/)
BOARD_USES_LIBSECRIL_STUB := true
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Hey lupohirp, I've just noticed your Acer Liquid repo! Do you still have that device? :laugh:
- sorry for the OT ^^"
lupohirp said:
hi shaaan....i saw that you are from galaxy s advance (same hardware of galaxy s3 mini).....in this evening i will re-start develop from cm10 and stop kernel develop.....(hope that i don't must work)...tomorrow i have 4 days free and i will spend to develop cm10. As i can see Oliver did a great work so i will start from that sources and every change i will publish on his repository. anyway....can you start doing some modifies with your work? The point is this: maclaw after a first compilation had various things working SO he must did something really simple.....such as changing something in BoardConfig.mk. After searching some i founded that we are missing something in this file for RIL problems that can work for our devices (start from there it is the main problem for now). add these in your boardconfig and see if work ( i am at work now and i can't test )
# RIL
BOARD_MOBILEDATA_INTERFACE_NAME := "pdp0"
#SPECIFIED SECRIL(need this to work??/)
BOARD_USES_LIBSECRIL_STUB := true
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We have already fixed RIL in cm10.
Yes. The boardconfig values are needed for RIL to work.
./rant
If you are reading this text, it means that i am too busy currently and won't be tendering any support questions via PM
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Well that was a very mature move. He cand allways open a new one and post a build if he wanted.
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Yeah very, It makes me sick to think how that guy operates, steals Oliver's sources, fixes a few things and wham!! Calls Oliver's surces his own.
lupohirp said:
hi shaaan....i saw that you are from galaxy s advance (same hardware of galaxy s3 mini).....in this evening i will re-start develop from cm10 and stop kernel develop.....(hope that i don't must work)...tomorrow i have 4 days free and i will spend to develop cm10. As i can see Oliver did a great work so i will start from that sources and every change i will publish on his repository. anyway....can you start doing some modifies with your work? The point is this: maclaw after a first compilation had various things working SO he must did something really simple.....such as changing something in BoardConfig.mk. After searching some i founded that we are missing something in this file for RIL problems that can work for our devices (start from there it is the main problem for now). add these in your boardconfig and see if work ( i am at work now and i can't test )
# RIL
BOARD_MOBILEDATA_INTERFACE_NAME := "pdp0"
#SPECIFIED SECRIL(need this to work??/)
BOARD_USES_LIBSECRIL_STUB := true
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For S3 Mini? For real?
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Yeah very, It makes me sick to think how that guy operates, steals Oliver's sources, fixes a few things and wham!! Calls Oliver's surces his own.
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I am not saying that he did not use sources from oliver. But where is the proof that he did use them?
You cant be sure.
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Hi guys,
Making an app successful requires two distinct skill sets including:
1. product development: UI/UX, Graphics, clean code and all that stuff
2. marketing: Tricky business. How do you monteize? Work with Carriers? Pre-load your app? Promote it through blogs? Get good reviews? Create a hype in social media? Paid vs. Free? What kind of in-app purchases? Which ad network and what marketing partners to use etc. etc.?
I have seen many apps on app store that have the ability to be sell like hot cakes but they get dumped under the piles of bad apps which are being marketed properly.
If you guys think that you have an app that have the nice concept, good design and ability to be successful, but it is lacking marketing muscle, please send me a message. I will analyze your app and provide you free advise on what is it lacking. If I find that I can help you making it successful, I will let you know and we can discuss these details more once the key issues are identified.
Regards,
Omer
Sounds like a good offer. My app is in my signature. I posted some info on my efforts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228199&page=3
What do you think?
Great initiative, here is my app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.signedcode.diskovery
Thank you!
Please check your PMs.
have a look
omer205 said:
Please check your PMs.
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Please have a look at my signature this all my apps..
Wow your offer is amazing !
Well, please have a look:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rdmFactory.crazyKitchen
thanks
This is a big pain point for app developers everywhere, both during UI and feature design as well as marketing the app. A solution would be to A/B your app features, both for development and for marketing your features. Mobile A/B solutions tend to be cumbersome and code-intensive. But, WYSIWYG tools are also making their appearance (Appiterate, Useartisan)
omer205 said:
Hi guys,
Making an app successful requires two distinct skill sets including:
1. product development: UI/UX, Graphics, clean code and all that stuff
2. marketing: Tricky business. How do you monteize? Work with Carriers? Pre-load your app? Promote it through blogs? Get good reviews? Create a hype in social media? Paid vs. Free? What kind of in-app purchases? Which ad network and what marketing partners to use etc. etc.?
I have seen many apps on app store that have the ability to be sell like hot cakes but they get dumped under the piles of bad apps which are being marketed properly.
If you guys think that you have an app that have the nice concept, good design and ability to be successful, but it is lacking marketing muscle, please send me a message. I will analyze your app and provide you free advise on what is it lacking. If I find that I can help you making it successful, I will let you know and we can discuss these details more once the key issues are identified.
Regards,
Omer
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here is mine at my signature.
look at my signature, advices are welcome
I just sent you a message:
Here is my game =)
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getfun.treevolve
Cat Snaps
Hi Please tell me what you think to my app Cat Snaps.
Thanks!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noahdev.catsnaps
This does sound like a pretty good opportunity, has anyone been able to work with him? If so, any feedback?
I sent you a PM by the way.
Thanks!
unfortunately it does sound familiar :crying:
i have this amaizing app on which my team worked for months and now the marketing is not that good. i mean we all expected it wont be second agry birds but damn app store is like a wild wild west!!!!! luckily ive fouund this forum maybe something here will give me an answer
Regards,
Omer[/QUOTE]
Great to see this, I hope you will take some time to check my app
Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
Link: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Souls.Gabber_app
Thanks,
Levi
Reasons Why Your App is not showing Conversion
A/B testing is a powerful tool which can be used to exponentially increase your conversions and and thus revenue. However there are certain mistakes one can often make while doing an A/B test. Read more here http://appiterate.com/top-6-mobile-app-ab-testing-mistakes-and-how-to-avoid-them/
omer205 said:
Hi guys,
I will analyze your app and provide you free advise on what is it lacking. If I find that I can help you making it successful, I will let you know and we can discuss these details more once the key issues are identified.
Regards,
Omer
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Hi,
Thanks for the efforts and your hard work
can you help on my apps
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Wow! I agree with the former post, this is a great initiative! My app is called bitmado, it automatically shuffles wallpapers based on your interests. I'll message you the link. Thanks!
Thats true but
richardsd1985 said:
I think you forgot App store optimization. It is best to increase app download as people mostly search app on app stores.
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You are right, but
i observe that in search list google shows the result in below way.
1. first shows the app for which they have got advertisement money,
2. then the app those revenues are high as 30% goes to google.
3. then the most downloaded- reviewd, rate apps
4. then there algorithem goes for rest all...
Again this is my observation and i have not considered google algoritham at all on this.
Hi Omar,
I hope I`m not too late and this post is still active I try to promote my app, it is Astrology & Horoscopes, Feng Shui... I know it doesn`t sound awesome, but it actually is based on Chinesse astrology professional software and lot of people believe in this stuff, so i think my app may be successful. Could you please help me with some advice what should I do to increase it`s downloads? Thank you
• https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dmc.astrology&hl=en
Hi Omer
Here are my 2 latest games
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50785184&postcount=51
I would appreciate your review and thoughts on what can be improved.
Back in March, Replicant developers revealed a backdoor in the Samsung Galaxy application processor that lets the modem perform I/O operations on the device's storage.
(There was one security researcher who claimed on Ars Technica there was no evidence that the backdoor was used; Replicant's developers have responded to that here and here.)
Anyway, any progress on Galaxy S5 ROMs that use Replicant's replacement library, which won't collaborate with the backdoor, whether it's been used or not?
CC @Leigh Kennedy, @a2441918, @elelinux, @optx, @firebird11, @albinoman887, @kornfed, @ks3rv3rg, @BeansTown106, @tp2215, @edgarf28, @keysoh2, @AxAtAx
Nobdy...
Anyone?
Up
Up
@Leigh Kennedy, @a2441918, @elelinux, @optx, @firebird11, @albinoman887, @kornfed, @ks3rv3rg, @BeansTown106, @tp2215, @edgarf28, @keysoh2, @AxAtAx, Denis "GNUtoo" Carikli and Paul Kocialkowski where you at?
Security holes like this effect the community as a whole. I have no doubt this an intentional flaw brought to us all by the Auroragold mission. Whats it going to take for this type of lunacy to stop, a figurehead's child's phone getting hacked by a malicious actor, or terrorist? Because it's only a matter of time before that exact threat is a damning reality, & Samsung will be left holding the bag. This flaw has been an open wound for me ever since I first read Paul Kocialkowski's report in February. The issue has been burred for way too long; on behalf of devs, users, people who don't want to know, and the ones that just wont ever get it, I demand a full community based effort to KILL THIS BUG. This is why were all here right? On XDA, we help one and other learn, as well as help ourselves to use our personal devices better, and soon, safer. But if we are not making a strong enough effort to get what we require as basic device security, why use one at all?
".....because once NSA introduces a weakness, a vulnerability, it’s not only the NSA that can exploit it". -Karsten Nohl
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@Leigh Kennedy, @a2441918, @elelinux, @optx, @firebird11, @albinoman887, @kornfed, @ks3rv3rg, @BeansTown106, @tp2215, @edgarf28, @keysoh2, @AxAtAx, Denis "GNUtoo" Carikli and Paul Kocialkowski where you at?
I demand a full community based effort to KILL THIS BUG. This is why were all here right?
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If that's the reason you are here, do something about it, instead of 'demanding' someone else doing it for you.
kornfed said:
If that's the reason you are here, do something about it, instead of 'demanding' someone else doing it for you.
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Thank you for your input. I mentor felons and teach them to use linux, windows, and android, essentally building a small army of informed individuals, teaching others to teach others. Sooo congrads for calling me out! And thanks for editing my statement to make me look silly.
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Thank you for your input. I mentor felons and teach them to use linux, windows, and android. Sooo congrads for calling me out!
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Good, take the lead, we are all very excited about your efforts.
kornfed said:
Good, take the lead, we are all very excited about your efforts.
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Whats your deal with me man? If you love these flaws, please please please continue to berate/belittle/troll me. I didnt deliberately make your phone work against you, hate on someone who deserves your hate. If you are such a narcissist that you cant see that your higher skill set will aid with RESOLVING the problem, please gtfo the away. Use your anger on some one else. Because in the real world I'm the scariest thing on the street, here, you are. Now that **** measuring competition has completed, what can we do as a community to resolve this important security issue?
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Good question and nice of you to bring this up. I think people don't give these matters enough attention.
I mean you can play pretend with your "encrypted" & "selinux secure" device as much as you want but there's no sense to it if the hardware is hardwired to spy on you.
This is an active backdoor
Six months later...
Is this backdoor still not fixed by current ROMs?
Hi, I'm following Project Ara with interest and I was wondering...
Which knowledge do you think a team needs, to be able to build a module for Project Ara?
Which type of figures?
For what I have understood, it is need:
- A person able to create circuits with FPGA/ASIC: an Electronic Engineer?
- A person able to create Android Kernel Module: a low level Android/Linux developer.
- Someone who is able to build Android image ARA-Compatible
- An APP developer: for building the app to manage the new module
- A 3D designer for building the envelope
What do you think?
Am I missing something?
thanks you
The use of hacker is really tasteless. Maybe saying low level linux developer would be more tastefull
CovXX said:
The use of hacker is really tasteless. Maybe saying low level linux developer would be more tastefull
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thanks you, corrected
any other figure?
Bro development of hardwares is bit complicated then softwares and kernel but you can learn that, Maybe in a year you will become a good hardware developer.
garva1 said:
Bro development of hardwares is bit complicated then softwares and kernel but you can learn that, Maybe in a year you will become a good hardware developer.
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ehehe a year? optimistic
I'm not here, thinking to do all by myself, but just to understand which kind of figures I need if I ever want to build an ara module or to understand which type of knowledge I need if I ever want to join a team.
btw thanks you :good:
I don't know much about it but maybe some kind of electronic and electrical connections and circuits knowledge or maybe controller knowledge, But if you want to join the team then instead of development work you can also some management work.
garva1 said:
I don't know much about it but maybe some kind of electronic and electrical connections and circuits knowledge or maybe controller knowledge, But if you want to join the team then instead of development work you can also some management work.
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Electrical or Hardware is more complex than software
what?
I am an electrical hardware engineer. And i am very interrested in this project. To bad i can't find any information that helps me develop new modules
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Hi,
I would also think you need -
A mechanical design engineer to look into module structure and potential thermal issues.
Engineers who are in the context of what type of module you want to build. E.g. you'll need quite a few additional engineers (optics, camera module, actuator, sensor) to build a quality camera module.
Someone who understands manufacturing issues for the factory.
Jimbochou
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