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Looks like the Moto X may be a keeper with a 5.2" screen.

Looks very pleasant. Concerned a little bit about the battery size though

Same about the battery, big concern if this thing cant last a whole day. Should be at least a 2700mAh battery with a screen over 5 inches. Unless moto made some big changes to background software for the battery (and the L preview's project volte being a battery saver), I might just wait and see.

No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.

i'm very interested in seeing the actual performance of this phone. i have high hopes for the camera and additional functionality they're claiming. all-in-all i'll have to hold it before i make my decision.

Currently a Note 2 user, I was pleased to see the size increase on the Moto X. I'm concerned abotu the battery, though. Right now I'm torn between the Note 4, LG G3, Moto X, and Nexus 6/X.

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No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.

Maybe?
Very disappointed to see the increased size, though it was inevitable.. I have been looking forward to this phone for months because of the innovation and engineering that went into the original moto x. Using separate processing elements for different parts of the phone is, I think, the absolute key to the battery life/functionality equation. I've been waiting for a company to split the UI and external features (screen, mics, cameras, etc..) off from the core phone functionality to save juice for a long time. When the screen is off, there should be little need to run the main processor, and therefore it should be kinder to its battery. I do need to know if this unit will have a replaceable battery, unfortunately its a complete no-go for me if it doesn't..
Hoping for the best!:good:

darkgoon3r96 said:
According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
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Thanks that's useful to hear as that's quite a key requirement for me with a phone.

I was thinking about replacing my rooted GS4 with this one but I wonder whats coming down the pipe from the Nexus and LG

If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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If there is a Dev edition then I'll buy immediately.

MichaelMcEntire said:
If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014 XT1092 unlocked version, including sprint

I like the size increase. I would rather it stayed at 5 inch screen instead of 5.2 but the battery size should have been bumped to 2600. Even if they are going to release a Moto Maxx version with a 3000 battery. Not sure if I will get this now or wait until the Nexus X before I ditch my VZW unlimited for greener pastures.

let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?

640k said:
let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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I'll probably wait to see what the next nexus phone is and then make a decision. Hopefully by then, there will be more clarification on what the Moto maXx is . I'd really like a 2014 Moto X with a larger capacity battery. For me that's the only thing it's really missing.

I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.

the new X is a good 1-2mm thinner than the old one at the edges. i'd say there's room for a 4000mAh battery.

Mayze23 said:
I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
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That's great news for you then.

Way too big for my taste, and I've become a big Moto fan since owning the X. What ever happened to all that research done to come up with the original X being the perfect size? Hope they do a blow out sale on the original X and I'll pick up a spare if the price is good. I understand the trend towards bigger phones, but all the Android manufacturers leaving behind high spec more compact models is VERY disappointing.

To everyone who is put off by the size of the Nexus 6

Get a Moto X 2014.
The Nexus 6 is built by Motorola and its basically just a blown up version of the Moto X 2014.
What's the differences between the 2 phones?
Moto X 2014 -
5.2" Display
Snapdragon 801
2gb Ram
1080p (423ppi)
2300 mAh Battery
5.08 oz (144 g)
Nexus 6 -
6" Display
Snapdragon 805
3gb Ram
1440p (493ppi)
3220 mAh Battery
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
6.49 oz (184 g)
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
Yes you're not getting the exact same specs shrunk down into the smaller Moto X but it's more in-line with what a lot of people think a "nexus device should be".
Moderate Specs, Moderate pricing and Stock android.
Here's a size comparison if anyone is interested:
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5

eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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The N5 is a great device no doubt but the Moto X follows the exact same design language as the N6 which imo is an overall a more premium feeling device with better specs
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.

eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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Agreed, there's a larger gap here in Canada between the Nexus 5 at $350 and Moto X at $600 than the X and Nexus 6 which is $750.
I'm unsure of American Moto X prices.

Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.

dtroup64 said:
Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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In the US...

EddyOS said:
In the US...
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And only on Verizon. And it will have a locked bootloader.
For you GSM guys though, it went through the FCC not too long ago with GSM bands. Rumor is that it will be released as the "Moto X Play" or "Moto Maxx" , two names that Motorola trademarked this year.

The only glaring difference here is the Nexus is a developer device, and supported directly by Google.
IMO get the Nexus 6, or Nexus 5 if the 6 is too big. The only carrier left out in that case is VZW, but that's not something new.

shadowcore said:
The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.

floepie said:
Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.

floepie said:
Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014

shadowcore said:
Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Why does it matter if something looks unimpressive when it performs better? Real world performance is what matters in the end...
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jbdan said:
My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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But if you don't like Amoled then you probably weren't gonna get a N6 either? N6 and MotoX but are amoled displays
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GalaxyWhy said:
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
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lol. So, most everything about the phone is different. Gotchya

Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.

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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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they are holding onto hope it comes with super shrinking feature that's a hidden easter egg in lollipop

bigf00t said:
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Perhaps those people are intrigued to see what other peoples opinions are on it?
I have always been a Nexus guy, but this year I've been disappointed by Google with the screen size. Yeah sure, some people want a big 6" screen but for practical everyday use a lot of people want something a bit smaller - between 4.5" and 5".
I took the plunge and have gone over to the dark side and got myself and iPhone 6. I love it, it does everything an average phone user wants.
It has a decent size screen that looks beautiful in all conditions. Plus there are little extra quirks like 1080p at 60FPS and slow motion video at 240FPS. TouchID in a way that nobody else has managed to beat yet.
I think realistically the Nexus 6 and Lollipop both look amazing and I will be doing my normal thing and watching these forums to see what people do with them but I just can't imagine having to use a phone that big daily.
I will happily go on record and say that I'm sure within 1 - 2 months of owning the Nexus 6 some of you will be fed up with how big it is.

Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'll be fed up with my TOO BIG Nexus. Thanks for proving my point.

I am on the fence about it. I think the hardware improvements for the Nexus 6 are worth it's price, they are all the things I want:
-OIS camera with better sensor
-big enough battery for 5hours screen on time (not possible with my Moto X 2014 unless I use it conservatively)
-wireless charging
-stereo speakers
-all US carriers support
I might hold of preordering the Nexus 6 like I thought I would and wait for some of the reviews, but I know eventually I will likely buy one.
I love the Moto X, but I'm not as impressed with the 2014 version as I should be because they lack the aforementioned features. I just switched to the Moto X 2013 for a couple days and I'm really happy with what it offered for the price, I feel like I could live with the 2013 version. If the 2014 X had all the hardwares features of the Nexus 6 and cost $650 as well, it probably would be better for me.
If I buy the Nexus 6, I would use it as a tablet and backup device, it definitely will not be my daily driver. So I wouldn't be fully utilizing it.
So right now there isn't yet a perfect device for me. I want a phone with Motorola features and design with flagship hardwares, but not phablet size. I guess I have to wait to see what the Moto X 2015 will be like. If it's going to be a 5.5" screen I wouldn't be happy about it (unless they manage to have almost no bezel), it would be a begrudging upgrade, in that case I would get a used Nexus 6.

If there's no Moto X 2016, what's your next phone?

I've been hoping for an announcement regarding the Moto X 2016. I currently have the Moto X 2015 and love the phone. I don't want the Moto Z due to the higher price and lack of front facing speakers. If there's no Moto X 2016/2017 what will you get?
I'm currently looking at the ZTE Axon 7. It has everything I was hoping for in this year's Moto X except Moto's awesome customization features to stock Android. It also has an awesome QHD AMOLED display, dual front facing speakers, fingerprint scanner on back, all aluminum build, support for microSD, support for dual SIM cards, and runs the same processor as the Galaxy S7 all at a $399 price tag. Reviews are amazing aside from the camera and it seems to be similar to the camera on my Moto X Pure. I can live with that.
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TBH, this will likely be my last Moto phone... Moto is not Motorola and the respect for customers and devices that Motorola had is gone under Lenovo, whether there is a Moto X 2016/2017 model or not, I won't be getting one.
The Axon 7 looks solid, but at this time I will probably stick with my MXPE, if I had to replace it today it would be a solid contender, along side the OnePlus 3, or the new LeEco devices announced today look interesting, or I would probably grab a sub-$200 budget or used device temporarily.
I see the Android market changing, with LeEco and Xiaomi bringing phones to the US market (or soon to be), other Chinese manufacturers will likely follow suit, which could bring about a revolution in the mid-range price and device category.

We had OG Droid Turbos. Decided that I wasn't wanting to deal with Lenovo anymore so we jumped over to the Note 7, and we all know how that went. So I was able to pick up MXPs for $250 each to tide us over till next year. As soon as the Note 8 or whatever the replacement for it is released, we are gone from Moto again.
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If I'm honest I have no idea. Decided for now to stick with X Style. I bought a OnePlus 3 the other week from a phone store but by the time it came to picking it up I'd decided it wasn't enough of an upgrade. Trying one in the shop it didn't feel all that faster than the Style though sure the benchmarks would say otherwise. No stereo speakers and although amoled, wasn't as bright. Not to mention Moto display, double twist for camera and double chop for torch.
I'll consider an X Style/Pure 2016/17 if there is even one. True, Lenovo have gone downhill as far as updates are concerned. It's to be seen how/if an upgrade to android 7 goes.
So I still like my X Style. If it fell under a bus tomorrow then maybe an OP3. More probable I'd get another X Style! I've looked Moto Z and not keen. Other than that I've considered a Samsung GS7 and even the Note 7. Axon 7 could be a contender but unavailable in the UK currently.
My Moto X Style is still stock and not had the urge to root or load a custom room. Works day in day out. Battery lasts most days but turbo charge it either by mains or vehicle soon tops it up. I have a tempered Glass screen protector but don't bother with a case and never takes any harm. I work outdoors in a rough manual environment. I still think as phones go it's underrated.

No more Moto for me. As a T-Mobile customer with the XT1575, and having the VoLTE choppy audio almost this entire year, and Moto not providing a fix but almost promising the fix will be in N if it ever gets released, I don't have any reason to give them any more of my money.
My wife's Honor 5x has been solid on CM13 and I am eyeing a pair of Honor 8 phones @ Best Buy for $400 each. I may wait for a price drop and CM14 as EMUI is a bit irritating at times.

Now that Lenovo seems to be killing the Moto brand, I hate Samsung software, LG has some hardware solder issues, I am beginning to like the one plus

A lot of folks are going with the Google Pixel XL phones, but I cannot stomach that ridiculous $800 price. About the only phone I would have purchased for near that price would have been the Note 7 had it not 'gone up in flames'. Thankfully I still have my MXPE trucking on, so I'll wait till next fall and decide then with whatever is available at a decent price. Maybe by then the Pixel XL's will come down in price from the stratosphere.

I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.

I like this phone, but I don't like the direction moto is trending. Nexus is dead.
OnePlus is looking like the best choice remaining for a modder/enthusiast.

dkeepitabuck said:
I heard the Moto Z is pretty good.
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Gets good enough reviews.
I said earlier that the Axon 7 wasn't available in the UK but I'm wrong as amazon have them. Price seems to have gone up to £482. It's got too expensive so off my list now. I'd pay a little more and buy a Moto z.

If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php

maidguitar said:
If it helps the discussion, there are already rumours of what the next moto X specs will be like:
http://www.gsmarena.com/moto_x_2016_gets_benchmarked_with_snapdragon_820_and_4gb_of_ram-news-17968.php
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The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....

warvelous said:
The Motorola XT1650 is the Moto Z....
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My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Mysterious-Motorola-device-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702

maidguitar said:
My bad, I meant to link this, since I swore that I read mention of a new moto x very recently... no specs, but there's at least a leak:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Myst...-leaked-Moto-X-2016-could-still-be-on_id86702
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Saw that but I'm not convinced at all. It looks exactly like the Moto X Style/Pure except the bezels look a little more narrow. The picture is blurred except for the viewable screen. Even the most novice of Photoshop users could recreate this. For that matter, even the most basic photo editing software could do a better job than what is seen.

I plan on sticking with my Moto X Pure for a while. It performs very well in my opinion on the stock firmware, I've tried several ROMs and IMO it is hard to beat Moto's stock Android. The Snapdragon 808 is plenty powerful for day to day usage. I do a bit of 3D gaming as well, and with Nougat comes Vulkan, which is becoming more common, so that should help satisfy my need for graphics performance a while longer.

I went with the Axon 7. The hardware is essentially an updated Moto X Pure. The software is just as buggy but it looks like ZTE is so far responsive to making improvements.

TBH, I don't really see the need to upgrade my phone anymore.
I think specwise the number can keep getting bigger and bigger but for me, the specs that a phone truly need had peaked already.

I was really interested in the Moto Z and the Hasselblad camera attachment but I can't take the price at the moment. I received the MXPE for free so I can't complain too much about it. I am considering rooting because I want gravity box to change the navigation buttons and the dpi but I won't be doing much more than that.
Maybe this time next year when the new Pixel is on the way I'll get one of those or the Moto Z

it's hard decision since there is no true moto x alternative right now ;\ decent specs with great price and stock up to date android, since google killed nexus there is no other phone like that. Hopefully I don't have to make this decison yet because I've bought this phone few months before so I'll keep it for next few years.

the xiami mi mix looks very nice, with nova launcher - im really thinking of getting it, but will hold on until reviews come out

Worth the Buy?

I am currently using a Moto Z Play. Apart from the camera and size I love almost everything about it (especially the battery life). Quite recently the G6 has caught my attention since its price has dropped by a lot and I started considering it since I might not lose much if I were to sell off my Z Play and buy it.
I have a few doubts that need clearing from regular G6 users. I know the G6 will turn almost a year old since launch, so is it still a good option to consider as daily driver for the next 2 years at least. For its current price in India its offering bang for buck in terms of the features it packs. I'm in love with what the wide angle cam can do, the 18:9 aspect ratio in 1440p , IP67 rating and wireless charging. How is the custom ROM support for this phone (if i do eventually go for it i'll need the ROM community to help extend its life), secondly has anyone experienced lesser battery numbers after long term use.
Looking forward to everyone's advice.

I can only say, I like it and comes from a moto z (not play)
Battery is beter than on my moto z with battery mod
I like the skin from lg more than the more stock looking skin from moto z
Custom rom support, I not Really know
Display from the LG looks much beter than the moto display.
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"I know the G6 will turn almost a year old since launch"
It has only been out about 6 months.

davjan said:
Battery is beter than on my moto z with battery mod
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What battery mod are you talking about?

patruns said:
"I know the G6 will turn almost a year old since launch"
It has only been out about 6 months.
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It came out in February this year, so its close to turning a year old.

rondias18 said:
It came out in February this year, so its close to turning a year old.
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Announced, not available.
Very different.

tech_head said:
Announced, not available.
Very different.
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Yes, released in May here in the US.

Reasons for little Rom Development?

I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.

Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..

autosurgeon said:
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.

DerrickTight said:
Yeah youre probably right. Oh well no biggie. As long as it isnt a situation like Loki on some LG phones.
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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol

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Another reason I've realized that has not been mentioned, but even in the past as a newer device there wasn't as much development goin on as other premium devices. That reason is that when the Moto x pure was released, it was very optimized and a very stock Google Android device with a few extras from Moto that really enhanced the user experience. In other words it was a device that has no need for custom roms! And in my opinion with that being said and little things like stereo front facing speakers, was in the top 3 devices of that year! And still to this day after using the Moto z, and some other mid range Samsung devices, the pure still Rock's the house lol
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Yeah I'm really excited about getting one. Since my Moto G4 broke I've been using my old Nexus 5 and havent had much luck breaking the chop chop habit. I have a 8 month old baby and its been insanely useful. Looking forward to the dual speakers too. Also excited to see one of my favorite roms Validus Oreo from GRZ being developed here for Moto X Pure.

It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).

justmoto92 said:
It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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I'm completely with you, I did alot of research on Moto X Pure and have had a ton of phones over the years. In my head, I see myself being very satified with it. Nexus 6 was one of my favorites (except I didnt like the amoled screen and the huge size) and this phone reminds me what was good about it but without the stuff I didnt. Plus, since coming from a Moto G4, I found those exclusive Moto features very useful and handy. Also having the FM radio built in has been nice in certain circumstances.

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It's 2018. But Moto X Pure still impress me everyday despite so many flagships out there.
1. The chop chop and twist twist gestures
2. The Stock Android with Moto experiences
3. The dual Stereo speaker
4. The great LCD (it's really good imo)
5. The phone design with curved back that fits nicely on hand, build quality and that unique Moto dimple design.
I'n still looking forward for future OREO or newer version of Android being developed for Moto X Pure (Style).
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Totally man it is 2018, and it's an older phone but the only thing that separates it from newer flagships is the battery, and the chipset! Yet I've always thought due to Moto's optimized software it offset any issues with the snapdragon808. That it performed with other 808's and even phones with the Snapdragon 810! The screen to buddy ratio is even today good, and then it was great! I was also happy to hear somebody give props to the ips lcd screen! I believe it's just as good as any AMOLED screen I've seen! And is way better in direct sunlight! I honestly have to say my favorite phone!!!

@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!

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@Optimusman
Chipset wise, nothing much you can do unless with third party custom ROM optimisation. Whereas for battery, you can replace it by buying it from online, and you will be back to the "new phone" days. Cuz' thats what I did to my X Pure battery
Talking about screen to body ratio, before the bezeless phone became trendy, Motorola started it first with the old RAZR M Phone. And not forgetting that Moto X's front is symmetrical and proportional from top to bottom. And most of the time, I would rather stick with Moto X Pure LCD screen cuz' of natural colors and the screen brightness. It's really bright and comfortable to look at!
Did I mention that, with all these great stuffs, yet Motorola sold it at an affordable price, not those overpriced pricing!
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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.

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At what levels do you guys primarily keep your screen brightness set at? When I was on the Moto G4 I kept my screen set at about 50% brightness cause I was mainly indoors and full brightness was overkill.
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30% or lesser for indoor (day). Because of the battery life.
0% for indoor (night) with bluelight filter.
50%-70% outdoor (under the sun) - usually will keep on adjusting to prevent from wasting the battery juice.

Brightness
I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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autosurgeon said:
Let's see it was never a flagship. It is over 2 years old...I could go on..
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device

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I like to get get the most out of my battery, and truthfully this screen is bright as hell lol! So I usually have mine at 30-35%, and in the dark like 5-10%lol
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I disagree with you on that one friend! It was Motorola's flagship device. The screen was flagship the processor although not the top dog was still Snapdragon 8** series, dual SIM, dual front firing speakers, 21mp camera etc. The list goes on lol the Moto x pure edition was a flagship device
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Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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DerrickTight said:
I'm about to buy a gently used Moto X Pure from Swappa and came here to see what's available as far as cistom roms. I'm kinda surprised by how little development is happening and was wondering if there is a particular reason. I broke my Moto G4 a week ago and its got quite a few Oreo Roms already. I'm not complaining just curious. There are a lot of roms I will miss but if there's no big obstacles in my way I may just try building my first rom here. I'm really excited for the Moto X Pure.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?

justmoto92 said:
Yeah! It was Motorola's flagship at that point of time. Moto X Pure edition was supposed to be using Snapdragon 810 processor. But... because of the heating issue, Motorola had no choice, so they had to use the Snapdragon 808 instead.
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@DerrickTight Hey, saw you mentioning on your first post, that you might be trying to build your first ROM? Any chance you might start doing it?
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I'm heavily considering it but I have a lot of obligations so it wouldnt be something to hold your breathe for. Its something that requires alot of time and patience. Thats why I always say donate to your devs. It isnt easy. Time will tell though, I could use another hobby. Might make something just for me, who knows.

I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.

Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.

schneid said:
I'm with the No Need to crowd. I am rooted with Magisk and TWRPed. I always ROMed my phones to ditch the factory UI, overhead, and bloat. Other than GravityBox I am all stock. Plus it was cheap.
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The main reason I have rooted and rom'd is for customization. I have a large collection of paid Sub themes too. I've been ad free for over 7 years and I wont go back to the ads experience.

acejavelin said:
Why is there not more ROM development? Guess that question confuses me... there are lots of ROMs (and many not on XDA, some would argue the best ones are not here)
The question should be, why is there not NEW/CONTINUED ROM development? Because this device is pushing 2.5 years old, and it is not holding up well and many people are abandoning it. The battery life is pitiful, and the battery longevity is worse, and on top of that there is no good source for "new" batteries... Not to mention that replacing the battery often required more technical expertise than many users have, and they need more parts than they expect since replacing the battery often destroys the back of the phone and requires a new one as well.
For $200-$300 you can get a new device with 3-4 times the battery life, similar processing power, and a reasonable display and camera... It is easy to see why people have been flocking away from this device for a while now. Developers have a hard time supporting a device that doesn't have consistent user base, and with Nougat, Oreo, and newer Android OS's, it is getting more and more difficult to maintain as a developer.
Your "old" Moto G4 was actually newer than the Moto X Pure/Style by a full year, so it would still see development and has a fairly active user base, phones typically have a "development life" of around 2-2.5 years for custom ROMs, people just leave the device for something newer and developers move on. Plus I would bet the Moto G4 sold at least 10 times as many units as the Moto X Pure/Style. Honestly the Moto X Pure/Style bombed (sales wise) and sold only a fraction of the number of units Moto hoped for, which probably accounts for why there was no Moto X "2016" model while Moto scrapped the old X line and gave us the new X4 last year, which is a decent phone, but in my mind is no replacement worthy of the X line.
Don't get me wrong, it is (was) a great phone... I loved mine, the only real problem was the battery life and the heat throttling, and I couldn't be tethered to a charger 2-4 times every day.
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Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.

DerrickTight said:
Would you happen to remember off hand where it was that you may have seen other builds? You could PM me as to not post to links of outside competitors. I have google searched with little hits, but I know alot of Moto G4 roms were posted directly on specific peoples Google Plus.
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Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.

acejavelin said:
Simple Google search will suffice... Dirty Unicorns, Zypher OS and BrokenOS come to mind just off the top of my head. There is a thread here somewhere listing "off-XDA" ROMs.
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I have been searching awhile, so is it true that beside XDA forum there are still other website that post custom ROM ?