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I just got a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and I'm comparing it directly against my Asus Eee Pad Transformer. The first thing I noticed is that the touch scrolling seems terribly unresponsive on the Tab. I'm not saying that the touch screen is unresponsive in general, but where a slight flick of the finger will scroll the browser or scroll between home screens on the Transformer, nothing happens on the Tab. You have to make wider, more forceful scrolling gestures. I'm comparing them side by side, and there is most certainly a difference.
Anyone else notice this? Is it possible my touch screen is defective?
I returned mine last weekend..
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Im doing the same. Comparing the TF vs the Tab. Will post back my results shortly.
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I returned mine last weekend..
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What motivated you to return it? Was it related to the problem I pointed out in this thread?
Wait until you try typing a response on here with the tab. Super lagggg. Hopefully an update will fix this.
I've noticed this as well. A light touch that works fine on my iPad2 doesn't register with the tab sometimes.
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Wait until you try typing a response on here with the tab. Super lagggg. Hopefully an update will fix this.
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it's like that with all HC tablets. seems to be a problem with the browser.
of all the tablets i've used the iconia and xoom are the most responsive screens. i'm sure a calibration could fix the problem, but why there isn't an option to do so is beyond me.
i'm still on the fence about returning my transfomer. gonna do some side by side this weekend. so far the screen on the gt10.1 is freaking nice!
Have not noticed this. Coming from an iconia still feels about the same. Typing on Many forums is a big problem because of the android browser far as I read it is not device specific.
Trying to replicate what you are saying. It could be the delay time in which the tab chooses to respond rather then simply not being able to respond.
Weird...I've had my tab for a few days and Im experiancing none of these issues. I had some light lag on the home screen but found it was caused by a rouge widget.
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Had the 10.1 since the 8th and i dont experience this, in fact it is more responsive than when my Xoom was stock, and is still comparable with my Xoom OC'd at 1700. I was surprised it was so snappy right out the box.
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Had the 10.1 since the 8th and i dont experience this, in fact it is more responsive than when my Xoom was stock, and is still comparable with my Xoom OC'd at 1700. I was surprised it was so snappy right out the box.
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This is me typing a response on the tab and so far there is no lag
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Okay, I think I figured it out! I only notice this issue when the tablet is plugged into an AC outlet via the charger. This is when I notice poor sensitivity for any kind of dragging motion. I have the white model, if that matters.
Can someone else try it out? I'd like to validate my sanity
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Okay, I think I figured it out! I only notice this issue when the tablet is plugged into an AC outlet via the charger. This is when I notice poor sensitivity for any kind of dragging motion. I have the white model, if that matters.
Can someone else try it out? I'd like to validate my sanity
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I can't (don't have mine yet ), but I did want to chime in that this is a problem that I've heard about with other tablets and Android phones. I can't explain why, but charging seems to interfere with the touchscreen on some devices.
Same issue here, unfortunately. Just got mine today and I notice real scrolling lag and an annoying delay / slow response when flicking and scrolling. Switching between browser tabs also has noticeable delay. I am comparing this to a rooted Vibrant which I've had almost a year that is super responsive and smooth. Expected much better considering this is a dual core 1ghz vs. the single core in my phone. Will continue to monitor this thread in case a fix or solution is found.
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Same issue here, unfortunately. Just got mine today and I notice real scrolling lag and an annoying delay / slow response when flicking and scrolling. Switching between browser tabs also has noticeable delay. I am comparing this to a rooted Vibrant which I've had almost a year that is super responsive and smooth. Expected much better considering this is a dual core 1ghz vs. the single core in my phone. Will continue to monitor this thread in case a fix or solution is found.
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Well, here's the thing:
-If it's because it's plugged in and charging, that's a hardware issue I think, might not be easily fixable.
-If it's just all the time, then it's probably just Honeycomb. It's a bit laggy compared to Gingerbread and Froyo right now, it'll get better with updates though.
Mine was plugged in and I was testing the 10 pt multitouch. Didn't notice any lag or sensitivity issues
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Oops spoke too soon . I did see the browser tab issue
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Same issue here, unfortunately. Just got mine today and I notice real scrolling lag and an annoying delay / slow response when flicking and scrolling. Switching between browser tabs also has noticeable delay. I am comparing this to a rooted Vibrant which I've had almost a year that is super responsive and smooth. Expected much better considering this is a dual core 1ghz vs. the single core in my phone. Will continue to monitor this thread in case a fix or solution is found.
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download multitouch visibility test and you'll see the points lag significantly behind your finger vs the transformer. it feels like the evo 4g did before they fixed it.
i wonder if the lagfix for the other samsung devices fixed this. i really don't know as i've never had my galaxy tab 7 on a stock rom or a rom that didn't have the lagfix.
this lag is driving me crazy! it's like watching a move 500ms out of sync.
I personally wouldnt worry about any lag issues on the tab until we start seeing some custom rom love. I know personally that my captivate was pretty laggy on launch day and with all of the roms there are now, the phone is MASSIVELY different. When some of the devs start sinking their teeth into this thing I think we will all be impressed and glad we made the right choice with the tab! /end fanboy rant
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.
You'll get a real answer when the phone comes out. Or check video reviews. We know as much as you do at this point.
Thanks for the answers enviii and ralexand!
The thing is, this input lag issue is very rarely adressed. It seems to me as if most poeple dont even notice it. It may be that im kinda picky there but its definitely a very important feature for me...
As the device has been released I would appreciate someone talking about the mentioned issue, who actually posseses the phone.
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It uses the same new technology as the iPhone 5 which brings the touchpanel closer to the front glass meaning responsiveness should be significantly better. It's called In-Cell Touch display if you want to Google it.
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lol... that's just not true. It helps viewing angles, but has absolutely no effect on responsiveness.
The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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The thing is, It could be or could not be,I think its just what peoples definition of smoothness and response is. Never know until the phones out. IMO
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Well for me the scale is definitely the iphone. (even still the 3G when scrolling homescreens) Also top notch Windows Phones offer very good responsiveness.
schnip said:
Hey Guys,
ever since i use Android im kind of annoyed by the responsiveness of the tochscreen. Even with state of the art smartphones like the S3 (ICS version) there is substantial lag. (compared for instance to an iphone)
I was really excited when JellyBean was announced because as it seems, it addresses the issue.
However when i tried an S3 with JellyBean i still felt the lag.
My question is whether the Nexus 4 actually matches the Iphone in responsiveness.
(I do not mean the stuttering when opening for instance the app drawer, i mean the pure relation of the finger touching the device and the quickness of the response of the device.)
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I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.
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iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)
Also iOS is more optimized since its on for few devices.
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actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..
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I guess it would be better for you to stay with iPhone.
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I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
tgtoys said:
iPhone relies on a system that basically delivers all or much of the available resources to the graphical interface when scrolling, which slows down or stops whatever else the phone is doing at the time (ie stops loading a web page when you start scrolling or momentarily pauses a download). This, along with a very strong GPU, is much of the reason for the smooth interface. (note: this info was taken from an interview with a Google employee, probably about a year or less ago. Could be outdated, but I believe it's still true...)
4.1 ramped up graphics rendering FPS to 60fps. This, a long with a strong GPU, S4 Pro processor and (mainly) 2 gigs of ram should result in an incredibly smooth UI. Also, the curved glass on the edges of the screen have been noted to give a much smoother feel to scrolling, whether it's a placebo effect or not will just have to be determined over time.
Long story short...yeah, this thing should be smooth as butter (pun intended)
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actually the big main reason for smoothness of ios vs android is that...every single application (basically everything) runs on virtual machines on the android unlike ios.. so it is true that the beefier the hardware the smoother the device..and thats y ios is able to run smooth even with lesser hardware..
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Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know
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I have never owned an iphone and i never will. I love android but im always excited for new features and improvements!
Thanks for this in-depth information. I have already known some of this from posts by google employees on their google+ pages.
I hope the changes introduced in JellyBean and the sheer performance of the Nexus 4 can overcome the innate performance issues of Android.
When someone has made first real life experiences with the device please let me know
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I have a Nexus S (awaiting a 16GB N4) and I can tell you that Jellybean offered a tremendous improvement in smoothness.
As for the lack of improvement with the S3 and Jelly Bean, do keep in mind that is not "stock" Jellybean, Samsung may have avoided using any of the "project butter" code for their own GPU rendering.. Only Nexus devices are guaranteed the advertised improvements listed by Google, once an OEM touches there's no guarantee.
Only the framerate is high. There is MASSIVE input lag of 100-200ms on every Android device. As evidenced in every video of the Nexus 4 the screen lags behind your finger by 1 inch or more when swiping. This makes it feel extremely sluggish and unresponsive in apps like Facebook and games like Canabalt are unplayable.
I noticed this too when I first started messing around with my N4.
A test I like to do is use the calculator, and see how many numbers I could hit before they would be highlighted (which I assume means the device starts registering the command). For some reason I was getting 2 (almost 3) punches before the device would see it. On my Wildfire S and my iPod Touch the input lag was never this bad.
Amazingly, I actually found a solution. I don't remember if I turned it on myself or if it came on by default, but my phone had the "Magnification gestures" on. You can find them in the "Accessibility" settings. I turned it off, and BAM! The input lag has practically disappeared. I don't know why it was doing that or how it's related, but this has effectively fixed it for me. There may still be a slight input lag, but it's small enough that I can ignore it. Before it was easily over 500 ms.
Hope this helps.
I've made sure that's off on every Android device I've tested. The input lag is still considerably worse than the iPhone.
I am expecting my G3 to arrive in my post office tomorrow.
When it was released I was very intersted in G3, I was very impressed with the form factor and screen to body ratio and also the buttons on the back felt new and fresh and ergonomic. However all the reviews in the beginning was not that positive, so I did buy the G2 instead. The main problem I did see with G3 was overheated GPU that was not really good enough for a 2k screen that did also throttle brightness on the screen. The other big thing was that screen most people did not seem that fanatic with it despite being the first 2k screen, it was rather dim and and not bright enough.
However for you people who have had the device sine the start how have the phone evolved ?
I can imagine Lollipop with its 2k Optimization did a lot of good things to the G3 ?
In more recent reviews I do not see people complain about any lag, or that it is slow.
I see also no real complain about the low screen brightness. I have seen early reviews said that it was 370 nits but they have corrected it to 460 nits which
is about as bright as most flagships from the time. Which make me wonder if first revision of the device have a less bright screen ? or if this have been corrected with sofware... regarding contrast I think it will never be the best screen.
Hi,
My experience was a bit mixed feelings.
When i was using the stock Rom (20H) it was works fine, but there was lag and i suffered a bit of overheating during the summer.
Now I changed to a custom ROM (cloudy) and the lag is almost gone, but in some cases still there (specially when waking up from deep sleep). Overheating is not an issue on that Rom, even after heavy gaming.
The screen is awesome. The hardware is good enough. LG software and Rom update is crap.
I'm happy but i don't think I'll by LG again.
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I'm super happy with mine, running CM12.1 latest nightly. I don't have issues with lag or overheating. Though I don't do much gaming.
blackinfinity said:
I am expecting my G3 to arrive in my post office tomorrow.
However for you people who have had the device sine the start how have the phone evolved ?
I can imagine Lollipop with its 2k Optimization did a lot of good things to the G3 ?
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The phone's performance certainly improved. But even latest 20 t/s/u roms still has jerky animations everywhere. It's better than 1 second delay on opening EVERYTHING, that was present on kitkat, but it's still pretty bad IMO. Especially if compared with CM...
BTW, CM and roms based on it are using 5.1.1_R18 as a base. This is WAAAY newer than LG's 5.0 build. Faster, smoother, more battery efficient...
And yeah, the 2k screen is not the problem. My friend has an Oppo Find 7a: 2k screen, adreno 330, 801 cpu @ 2.33 GHz... And it's as smooth as his IPad. Aaaand it's on 4.3. Which means that LG did so terrible job at optimising the firmware, that even ART and all 5.0 performance improvements can't cover up their coding unskills ._.
Guys, have you tried not using the stock LG keyboard?
There's a thread reporting that for some reason, doing this, kills at least home screen lags. That certainly did the trick for me as well, although I keep coming back to this keyboard, since I find it best suits my needs compared to Google's or Swiftkey's.
Just make sure to restart your phone after changing the default keyboard to anything else than LG's stock keyboard, so the process isn't running in the background.
I have now received the phone performed the updates, the latest update I use now is 5.0 still. Do you guys have 5.1 ?
I can confirm the phone is slow and laggy as hell.. it is worse then my Mate 7.
I have never rooted and have not much experience. CM 12 might be the only way, but is that still based on kitkat ?
LG G3 was a real nightmare on stock atleast for me I got the 5.0 version, I read that people in usa have 5.1. so I guess you have less problem.
Anyway I solved any type of lag with help of modyfying that animation speeds in developer options setting it to 5.x on all 3.
In apex launcher I did set it always stay in memory, I did not use system animations but apex own "slide up" app animation.
in the Drawer I use the in and out fly animation (the gpu cannot hande the circle animation looks terrible)
Anyway this made a dramtic difference..so I am pertty much happy now.. it is faster then my Mate 7..and I really like the multi tasking view..even though I wish it did open little bit faster (again I guess it does in 5.1)
Screen was not impressive I prefer the G2 screen because of higher conrtast ratio.
That blacks are not good on this display, JDI NEO displays have better blacks for sure.. they are in Sony phones and Huawei to name a few..
Anyway.. this phone I will have until Huawei Mate 8 is released..which I will most likely buy.. The only thing that worry me is that they are so busy making it as thin as possible that they will sacrifice the batter..I am sorry I will not accept a small battery.
Weird I keep reading about lag issues on stock G3 and I never experienced lag on my stock Koodo/Telus D852. Wondering if it's carrier related and how bad they "tweak" the base rom...
One of the only problems with the 1 + 3t was the touchscreen latency as explained in this excellent article https://www.xda-developers.com/users-voice-concern-over-touch-screen-latency-issues-on-oneplus-3-3t/) explaining Touchscreen lag problems on the OnePlus 3T. i felt the same while playing with my friend's phone but could not properly articulate what the problem was.
Oneplus claims to have fixed this problem (See:- https://www.neowin.net/news/oneplus-has-finally-fixed-the-touchscreen-lag-issue-on-the-3-and-3t).
Can someone comment on whether this issue has been fixed on the Oneplus 5 ?
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See the official lunch stream, it's covered in detail what they did (process, not tech info in depth).
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A french review says that it's about 88 ms. So yes, it's a medium value.
Source : http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telephone-portable/oneplus-5-128-go-8-go-ram-p38963/test.html
Thanks, yes i see that they claim to have improved the input lag. Was wondering if any of the external reviewers can verify the claims
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See the official lunch stream, it's covered in detail what they did (process, not tech info in depth).
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Super Thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for.
IMHO 88 ms seems quite poor given the tall claims of having worked extensively on this.
I wonder why none of the reviewers has spoken about this, its an absolute buzzkill if you're used to a lower lag device.
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A french review says that it's about 88 ms. So yes, it's a medium value.
Source : http://www.lesnumeriques.com/telephone-portable/oneplus-5-128-go-8-go-ram-p38963/test.html
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Anyone have an idea of the latency of op3/t after ~ beta 14. The latency a after that is greatly reduced. Would be Interesting to compare the 5 to 3 with updated, beta firmware
Did you really notice any latency? I never did really on my 1+3 and Im usually very sensitive to this kind of problems or low fps..
Touch latency issue is already fixed on latest beta's for OP3/3T
Very very disappointed. A friend says he's played with one and it is an issue. Not to the extent to which it was with early oxygen os but to the level of new betas but still noticeable. Hope it isn't true.
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Did you really notice any latency? I never did really on my 1+3 and Im usually very sensitive to this kind of problems or low fps..
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Touch latency is not about fps.
Op3 on latest beta is OK but I would like to see better performance from 5 to spend my money
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Touch latency is not about fps.
Op3 on latest beta is OK but I would like to see better performance from 5 to spend my money
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I know that. I wanted only make clear that Im sensitive to similar types of issues.
What's the verdict so far?
Anyone?
is higly notice even worse if u rise it... window/animation/duration on dev option ...perhaps i think what they did on lates update was to reduce it
In my opinion, the latency is about the same as the OnePlus 3/3T running the Open Betas. I think that when trying to optimize this issue in the OnePlus 5, though, they created the jello-like scrolling effect oroblem that so many of us are complaining about.
OP5 lags than OP3
The touch latency is bad in OP5 when compared to OP3
I noticed that when you scroll long pages really fast or with short swipes sometimes it:
1) stops for no reason
2) goes the opposite direction
3) scrolls really slow even if you swiped fast
I tested two OP5 with latest updates, and they both have same issue.
Probably this has something to do with that touch latency.
If anyone wants a quality review covering the touchscreen lag, check out hardware canucks' review of the OP5.
Spoiler, IT'S STILL REALLY LAGGY. And the jelly scrolling can be seen really well in this review too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPykS9l3D2Q
Time stamp: 4:25 - 5:13
I don't notice any issues. Have fun dealing with it.
Its been 4 days now playing with OP5 and I can clearly feel that the touch latency is very high compare to OP3T or OP2. The scroll really skids and move ahead from the point where you want the screen to stop but the input doesn't respond at that very moment...
Hi.
I've just bought this phone, and couldn't help but noticing that the touch screen response is noticeably slower than my Nexus 5.
Is it the hardware, or the software?
I'm afraid it's the former, especially considering that this is a china phone, but still, is it possible that not a single reviewer noticed this?
What about you guys?
EDIT: added video to make clear what I'm talking about.
EDIT2: tested the N4, N5, and P9 lite, and I'm 100% positive they're all that much more responsive than the Mi A1.
Does anyone know a way to improve the touch screen response?
Near three months with the phone and I must say that I haven't noticed that this far...
I am facing stuttering while I play fps games, and it's terrible.
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Near three months with the phone and I must say that I haven't noticed that this far...
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You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I didn't either notice any latency. Maybe you can ask a friend with another Mi A1 and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel if there is any difference.
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Menta91 said:
You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I don't know if You try to be smart but anyway...
This isn't my only phone at the moment so I can compare with few other phones.
Compared to almost any "western" phone" (whatever that means) within same price range the difference isn't visible for normal eye...
But as I'm not playing games or scroll up/down on settings page as my hobby so the "latency" Yoy are referring to doesn't bother me.
And I can assure You that if the "latency" or lag was common You would see it all over the forum...
JockeSve said:
I don't know if You try to be smart but anyway...
This isn't my only phone at the moment so I can compare with few other phones.
Compared to almost any "western" phone" (whatever that means) within same price range the difference isn't visible for normal eye...
But as I'm not playing games or scroll up/down on settings page as my hobby so the "latency" Yoy are referring to doesn't bother me.
And I can assure You that if the "latency" or lag was common You would see it all over the forum...
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I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.
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I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.
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I agreed with you. And you're right about that issue.
I noticed that thing while playing some games and on some app it's barely happen. I noticed that on Fleksy keyboard ( not idea other keyboard work fine or not) I seen the same question asked by someone in this forum but he or she talk about the games.
I didn't seen that issue with my galaxy s2 i9100
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I wasn't trying to be smart, I just thought you were using it "by itself" rather than comparing.
I'm not playing any games nor scrolling up and down all day long either, but I immediately noticed a much less responsive touch as soon as I started using the phone.
Maybe if it were true I'd see it all over the forum, but the same happened to me with my old oppo find 5: nobody mentioned anything about the touch screen latency, but it was mile behind the nexus 5, and even the nexus 4.
It's not too much annoying, but I admit it makes the phone feel slower and cheaper.
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Sir I can assure you that your unit must be defective or your eye is playing a trick on you(or you are very sensitive about the lag you are talking about.).
I am using both N4 and A1, and I frequently change those two for daily use. I didn't feel any difference in responsiveness.
Just to be sure, I compared those two side by side just now, and I couldn't tell any difference. Just to be more sure, I gave my friends those two and encouraged them to try out. They also couldn't tell any difference.
Not sure what do you exactly mean by touch 'latency' but I can confirm that the touch sensitivity on this phone is a little less than other phones. I used mostly samsung phones in the past, the S and Note series, and also the LG G4 and I can safely say that the touch on a 2014 phone 'Samsung S4' is better than Mi A1.
It feels like you have to push in just a little more effort than usual to register a touch, especially in the bottom right corner of the screen. All this fuss was significantly noticable in the first couple of weeks but now its been over a month with this phone so I'm getting used to it. Muscle memory has gotten a hang of just how much pressure you have to apply to get your touch registered.
I tried third party apps like touch calibrator and SGS booster but they haven't helped! Will wait for the feb patch, if it doesn't fix then will go for a root method to increase the touching sensitivity by manipulating build prop.
ddaggebi said:
Sir I can assure you that your unit must be defective or your eye is playing a trick on you(or you are very sensitive about the lag you are talking about.).
I am using both N4 and A1, and I frequently change those two for daily use. I didn't feel any difference in responsiveness.
Just to be sure, I compared those two side by side just now, and I couldn't tell any difference. Just to be more sure, I gave my friends those two and encouraged them to try out. They also couldn't tell any difference.
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I'd really hope so, but I'm afraid this is one way for manufacturers to keep down the costs, while keeping up the perceived quality, i.e, they save on digitizers and give you 4 GB of ram instead of 3.
About the N4 latency, I'm not sure because it's been quite a while since the last time I used it, but the N5 touchscreen response is way better than the M1 A1.
hamzam4lik said:
Not sure what do you exactly mean by touch 'latency' but I can confirm that the touch sensitivity on this phone is a little less than other phones. I used mostly samsung phones in the past, the S and Note series, and also the LG G4 and I can safely say that the touch on a 2014 phone 'Samsung S4' is better than Mi A1.
It feels like you have to push in just a little more effort than usual to register a touch, especially in the bottom right corner of the screen. All this fuss was significantly noticable in the first couple of weeks but now its been over a month with this phone so I'm getting used to it. Muscle memory has gotten a hang of just how much pressure you have to apply to get your touch registered.
I tried third party apps like touch calibrator and SGS booster but they haven't helped! Will wait for the feb patch, if it doesn't fix then will go for a root method to increase the touching sensitivity by manipulating build prop.
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I'm not talking about sensitivity.
I'm talking about the time that passes between your finger touching the screen, and the screen registering your touch.
I wish my english was a little bit better, so that I could explain it well.
This video should clear things up:
I'll edit the first post.
Menta91 said:
I'd really hope so, but I'm afraid this is one way for manufacturers to keep down the costs, while keeping up the perceived quality, i.e, they save on digitizers and give you 4 GB of ram instead of 3.
About the N4 latency, I'm not sure because it's been quite a while since the last time I used it, but the N5 touchscreen response is way better than the M1 A1.
I'm not talking about sensitivity.
I'm talking about the time that passes between your finger touching the screen, and the screen registering your touch.
I wish my english was a little bit better, so that I could explain it well.
This video should clear things up:
I'll edit the first post.
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Oh ! Is there a way to check the latency on this phone?
hamzam4lik said:
Oh ! Is there a way to check the latency on this phone?
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I'm not aware of any.
It can be approximated with a camera that records at high enough FPS and calculating the delay knowing that every X FPS a second passes, like this:
Menta91 said:
You need a phone to compare with.
Ask a friend with a "western" phone to let you try his, and try scrolling up and down on settings page, and you should feel the difference.
It seems like the responsiveness is quite low...I didn't expect this from a 200 € phone.
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I have also Nexus 5 and haven't noticed any difference in scrolling in settings, apps (I don't play games). The only thing I noticed is that on certain screen protectors the screen is often less responsive.
About "western"-chinese phones, the build quality of N5 and especially for example Samsung Galaxy S8 is way worse then A1 or Redmi Note 3 Pro (speaking of my own experience).
NITRO_100 said:
I have also Nexus 5 and haven't noticed any difference in scrolling in settings, apps (I don't play games). The only thing I noticed is that on certain screen protectors the screen is often less responsive.
About "western"-chinese phones, the build quality of N5 and especially for example Samsung Galaxy S8 is way worse then A1 or Redmi Note 3 Pro (speaking of my own experience).
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You're right, the Mi A1 uses better materials (way better) than the N5.
My point is that Xiaomi is (probably) saving in other things.
A phone isn't just its case; in fact, a smartphone is a mostly a piece of electronics, and my judgement of it depends largely on the quality of its screen, its chipset, etc.
That said, I don't want to turn this into a war.
I'm not even sure that xiaomi is saving in its hardware (maybe it's just poor optimization).
In the meanwhile, I'd like to hear other opinions, and as I'm exchanging the xiaomi with the moto g5s plus, I'll report back to let you guys know how it feels once I receive it.
Well, I realized moto g5s plus doesn't support google camera hdr+, so that's a no-no for me.
I'm thinking about the moto x4, which is also A1, but I'm not sure if a slightly better camera, IP68, and a better touch are worth 100€ more.
I don't think so.
In the meanwhile I tried again the N4, and the P9 lite, and I can confirm that their touchscreen is definitely better than this Xiaomi.
Still, I'd like to know if anyone knows a way to improve, even a little bit, the responsiveness of the touch.
Menta91 said:
Well, I realized moto g5s plus doesn't support google camera hdr+, so that's a no-no for me.
I'm thinking about the moto x4, which is also A1, but I'm not sure if a slightly better camera, IP68, and a better touch are worth 100€ more.
I don't think so.
In the meanwhile I tried again the N4, and the P9 lite, and I can confirm that their touchscreen is definitely better than this Xiaomi.
Still, I'd like to know if anyone knows a way to improve, even a little bit, the responsiveness of the touch.
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Apsolutely not worth 100€ more. Btw still don't see any difference in touch screen compared to N5. Are you playing games and noticing this or ? What is your LCD panel manufacturer ?
NITRO_100 said:
Apsolutely not worth 100€ more. Btw still don't see any difference in touch screen compared to N5. Are you playing games and noticing this or ? What is your LCD panel manufacturer ?
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No games.
It is apparent everywhere, home screens, settings, scrolling..
How can I check the LCD panel manufacturer?
We already had some thread discuss about this issue.
You can see the video on #18.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...cing-issue-t3688379/post74315174#post74315174
Untill now. I dont know this happen for all mia1 or just some device like you and me. First, I think this is a bug of software from xiaomi, but try some custome rom outside but still so laggy. The last hope is watting some kernel heavy mod, may be the problem will solve. If not, it definitedly hardware issue, and no way to fix that.
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No games.
It is apparent everywhere, home screens, settings, scrolling..
How can I check the LCD panel manufacturer?
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Dial *#*#6484#*#* and go to version information.