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Has anyone noticed that the Galaxy Note is not as fast as it should be? I compared it to a Galaxy S II and the SII was just buttery smooth in terms of speed compared to the Note. The more I played around with the SII the more I noticed the speed and smoothness difference, and it confused me because the Note has a faster processor so it leaves me wondering why the Note is slower.
EDIT: I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there seems to be a very slight lag between input and the phone responding, for nearly everything. From swiping/scrolling to opening up apps, there just seems to be a bit of lag. The SII does not have this, that I can see. Everything is almost instant on it, as soon as you give input to the SII it responds.
Also, for those of you who are lucky enough to have upgraded to 2.3.6, is there a noticeable difference in terms of general speed and smoothness?

Exactly.........
Same i observed as well with d demo piece kept in the shop.
Note is bit lagging than the galaxy s2.
Please answer the question. Did firmware update 2.3.6 improved performance?
Can ICS update make it as smooth as s2 or nexus?
Thanks in advance.

I dont know wat u guys are talking about.. My notes smooth.. And i had owned a s2 before..
And relax, its the initial days of the note... More updates will come. And ics is only gonna make it better

Sorry but I have to disagree. I would say my Note is buttery smooth, insanely quick & responsive...
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
I take it it depends what apps you are running since certain apps are buggy and cause problems such as the device being sluggish at times?
My note has never lagged or been slow. I'm running the stock launcher. I tried others but did not like them.
List of installed apps:
Flash Player
File Manager
Viz Battery
Wallpaper Wizardrii
Smart Keyboard
Beautiful Widgets
Angry Birds (all three)
Yahoo Messenger
Msn Messenger
Skype
Barcode Scanner
MixZing
MX Video Player
Adobe Reader
Opera
Equalizer

I notice that the Android OS uses about double the display. Also when typing fast there is lag. I know about freezing apps, but ill just wait for custom ROMs.
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i am so pleased to hear this.....
i have not yet bought it, yesterday for the first time i saw a demo piece.
Dont know why but i found it bit laggy. Maybe beacuse the expectations with which i went there.
anyways will need to see another demo piece b4 so that can buy without a doubt...

Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.

straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)

I still got 2.3.5 I'm very picky about speed in my phone, one thing I have noticed is that whenever memory gets really full the device suffers, say for example you launch the default browser and it's choppy, just try this: launch the task manager and do a clear memory from the ram tab.relauncb the browser and compare the speed, lighting fast!
I belive that it somehow loses the hardware acceleration at one point, so next time you guys try one specially at a demo stand, just clear the ram and give it a go.
Input lag is something I haven't noticed, what's more typing using SwiftKey is truly an experience! Zero lag and lighting speed! So I wouldn't worry much about it I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the early stage of the firmware than the lack of hardware to do it.
I truly belive speed is not an issue on this device,it's by no means perfect but it's definitely an experience using this screen with this power under the hood
Also I totally agree about the underrated s-pen people still don't realise that this is not just a piece of plastic with a fine tip, the pen is not crappy one like the horrible stylus on windows mobile phones, this pen uses a magnetic technology developed by wacom, what this means is a mix between accuracy an speed of capacitive touch also let's not forget that it can detect and separate between a normal finger press and pen press it had the potential of doing mouse hovering, not yet implemented on gingerbread drivers, also it finally brings pressure sensitive to the artist so it truly can be used as a sketched on the go!
Download if you want to try the app
Multitouch visualizer 2, so you can see how accurate the pressure and the pen itself is!
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The only reason S2 is faster is because it has a laughable super low res WVGA display. Low pixel counts = faster rendering time.

Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks

straxusii said:
Bare in mind the note has ~3 times the resolution of the sgs2 and is only ~14% faster, presumably that accounts for the difference in experience some users have.
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katyarevishal said:
of course we know that.........
i just want to know is it really slow than S2? (whatever may be the reason)
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dude he just said it
what more do you want to know?

gv.chaitanya8 said:
Hi,
Please check the attachment. It is the screenshot of my version on my galaxy note.
I bought my phone yesterday. I connected and and updated firmware using samsung kies software. Now the screen is lagging while scrolling. Please check and suggest something.
Thanks
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I just updated to DTB PDA KK9 and it feels smoother. Launcher Pro is not stuttering as it was. Battery life infinitely better. Still 50% after a long 16hr day of quite heavy use as opposed to 15% after 8hrs.
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Isn't the Note pushing twice the resolution of the GSII?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out folks

No lag on mine. Justas fast as any other device
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kanej2006 said:
I've never owned the previous Galaxy S2 but have tried it in the shop and it's no way any quicker, infact it was choppy at times...
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Probably because it was a demo unit.
I'm running exact same setup on both SGS2 and the Note (Launcher Pro, Widget Locker, etc) and SGS2 definitely is noticeably smoother than the Note in UI operations

Does the Galaxy Note 3 have S-lag standard?

As a big Samsung smartphone fan, I was hugely disappointed with the S4. Micro stutters and lag EVERYWHERE it drove me crazy.
I was really REALLY hoping the Note 3 with the S800 powerhouse will remedy the lag, according to the many videos so far of the device it seems crazy but I can still see some micro stuttering going on. WTF Samsung!?
My Note 2 was literally lag and micro stutter free, is it too much to ask for your "Next big thing" to perform the same?
I have my fingers crossed that the final software will give a smooth buttery user experience, if not I'm jumping ship for reals.. you know what they say, fool me twice......

I am hoping the 3GB of RAM help this and eventually root happens so we can remove the bloat :fingers-crossed:
Oyeah my S4 is smooth as butter but it is running custom rom

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See no stutters and everyone Note 2 owner I speak to says the device performs excellent.
Are you speculating it will be slow? what is the point of this thread?
"do you think it will be slow?" - you wont know until you own the device for a few days if it will fit YOUR expectations.

deathshead said:
Are you speculating it will be slow? what is the point of this thread?
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It's a good question actually. The SGS4 lagged with its initial release s/w. From what I've heard its improved over time but still has some lag in certain areas. The SGS4 (and now the N3) have new sensors tied to new functionality that requires the phone to always be anticipating an action. Like someone said above, 3GB of RAM should help with the additional workload. That and Samsung's had some time to refine the s/w that was first launched in April. The SGS3 had issues that were fixed in the N2 so I'd expect/hope history repeats itself.

deathshead said:
See no stutters and everyone Note 2 owner I speak to says the device performs excellent.
Are you speculating it will be slow? what is the point of this thread?
"do you think it will be slow?" - you wont know until you own the device for a few days if it will fit YOUR expectations.
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It was excellent, yes. It got even better when I loaded a debloated ROM on it. Only reason I didn't leave TW altogether was I needed wi-fi calling. AOSP was by far the smoothest ROM. Ideally for those of us who don't need or want S-bloat they'd release a non Spen Note 3 equivalent GP Edition.

Running Miui on the s4 completely removes the lag. Hoping the note3 will also get Miui like the note 2 did. Touchwiz will always lag imo.
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Dan37tz said:
As a big Samsung smartphone fan, I was hugely disappointed with the S4. Micro stutters and lag EVERYWHERE it drove me crazy.
I was really REALLY hoping the Note 3 with the S800 powerhouse will remedy the lag, according to the many videos so far of the device it seems crazy but I can still see some micro stuttering going on. WTF Samsung!?
My Note 2 was literally lag and micro stutter free, is it too much to ask for your "Next big thing" to perform the same?
I have my fingers crossed that the final software will give a smooth buttery user experience, if not I'm jumping ship for reals.. you know what they say, fool me twice......
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I've just bought the Note 3, and there's plenty of s-lag. I'm very disappointed with the device and want to swap it for the Blackberry Z30.

scott.deagan said:
I've just bought the Note 3, and there's plenty of s-lag. I'm very disappointed with the device and want to swap it for the Blackberry Z30.
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Yeah, this post makes sense... When I experience lag, I too complain in forums and jump ship to blackberry.
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scott.deagan said:
I've just bought the Note 3, and there's plenty of s-lag. I'm very disappointed with the device and want to swap it for the Blackberry Z30.
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Enjoy Blackberry...:laugh:

Dan37tz said:
As a big Samsung smartphone fan, I was hugely disappointed with the S4. Micro stutters and lag EVERYWHERE it drove me crazy.
I was really REALLY hoping the Note 3 with the S800 powerhouse will remedy the lag, according to the many videos so far of the device it seems crazy but I can still see some micro stuttering going on. WTF Samsung!?
My Note 2 was literally lag and micro stutter free, is it too much to ask for your "Next big thing" to perform the same?
I have my fingers crossed that the final software will give a smooth buttery user experience, if not I'm jumping ship for reals.. you know what they say, fool me twice......
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That's why I went getting a Galaxy Note 1 in my hand now when waiting for my GN3.
In this kind of " training", I am sure that I will be very satisfied with the speed of GN3..........GN1 is just soooooooooooooooo lag. Freeze itself once or twice a day....

The stutter is still there when scrolling
Dan37tz said:
As a big Samsung smartphone fan, I was hugely disappointed with the S4. Micro stutters and lag EVERYWHERE it drove me crazy.
I was really REALLY hoping the Note 3 with the S800 powerhouse will remedy the lag, according to the many videos so far of the device it seems crazy but I can still see some micro stuttering going on. WTF Samsung!?
My Note 2 was literally lag and micro stutter free, is it too much to ask for your "Next big thing" to perform the same?
I have my fingers crossed that the final software will give a smooth buttery user experience, if not I'm jumping ship for reals.. you know what they say, fool me twice......
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The micro stutter is still there. For me, it's very annoying because the browser suffers from it (and I spend a lot of time in the browser). I've tried both Chrome and the ASAP browsers. The latter is slightly better, but it's still there and still very annoying. I understand it's subjective and does not bother everyone the same way, but for me it completely destroys the user experience.
Here's one way to see the stutter:
1. Open theverge.com in desktop mode.
2. Hover the s-pen at the bottom of the page (results in page slowly scrolling down).
3. Observe stutters (occurs intermittently, usually when scrolling sections in the page that contain images).
4. Do the same thing to scroll up once you've reached the bottom (I.e. hover the s-pen at the top of the page to scroll slowly upwards).
5. Observe the intermittent stutters.
Very bad user experience. Inexcusable considering the hardware. I for one am very disappointed.

scott.deagan said:
The micro stutter is still there. For me, it's very annoying because the browser suffers from it (and I spend a lot of time in the browser). I've tried both Chrome and the ASAP browsers. The latter is slightly better, but it's still there and still very annoying. I understand it's subjective and does not bother everyone the same way, but for me it completely destroys the user experience.
Here's one way to see the stutter:
1. Open theverge.com in desktop mode.
2. Hover the s-pen at the bottom of the page (results in page slowly scrolling down).
3. Observe stutters (occurs intermittently, usually when scrolling sections in the page that contain images).
4. Do the same thing to scroll up once you've reached the bottom (I.e. hover the s-pen at the top of the page to scroll slowly upwards).
5. Observe the intermittent stutters.
Very bad user experience. Inexcusable considering the hardware. I for one am very disappointed.
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My friend u need an iPhone.you will fit right in with rest of ur Hurd.
Even top of line PC sometime struggles on buggy websites.my PC sometime crashes on xda websites because of all these stupid ads.

mintu123 said:
My friend u need an iPhone.you will fit right in with rest of ur Hurd.
Even top of line PC sometime struggles on buggy websites.my PC sometime crashes on xda websites because of all these stupid ads.
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You recommend him get an iPhone because?.. Oh that's right it doesn't lag even with buggy websites. Sammy needs to work out some kinks with their over bloated touchwiz nonsense. I was going to give the note 3 a go. Then I heard people complaining of lag similar to the s4 (which I returned because of lag) now I've decided against buying one. I wanted that big 1080p screen so bad but I just can't deal with constant stuttering and frame lag, it drives me nuts.
I myself will be sticking to my newly purchased Gold 5s and the Nexus 5 running stock KitKat when its released.

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scott.deagan said:
The micro stutter is still there. For me, it's very annoying because the browser suffers from it (and I spend a lot of time in the browser). I've tried both Chrome and the ASAP browsers. The latter is slightly better, but it's still there and still very annoying. I understand it's subjective and does not bother everyone the same way, but for me it completely destroys the user experience.
Here's one way to see the stutter:
1. Open theverge.com in desktop mode.
2. Hover the s-pen at the bottom of the page (results in page slowly scrolling down).
3. Observe stutters (occurs intermittently, usually when scrolling sections in the page that contain images).
4. Do the same thing to scroll up once you've reached the bottom (I.e. hover the s-pen at the top of the page to scroll slowly upwards).
5. Observe the intermittent stutters.
Very bad user experience. Inexcusable considering the hardware. I for one am very disappointed.
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Don't use theverge.com for testing, their frontend code is terribly slow.

scott.deagan said:
The micro stutter is still there. For me, it's very annoying because the browser suffers from it (and I spend a lot of time in the browser). I've tried both Chrome and the ASAP browsers. The latter is slightly better, but it's still there and still very annoying. I understand it's subjective and does not bother everyone the same way, but for me it completely destroys the user experience.
Here's one way to see the stutter:
1. Open theverge.com in desktop mode.
2. Hover the s-pen at the bottom of the page (results in page slowly scrolling down).
3. Observe stutters (occurs intermittently, usually when scrolling sections in the page that contain images).
4. Do the same thing to scroll up once you've reached the bottom (I.e. hover the s-pen at the top of the page to scroll slowly upwards).
5. Observe the intermittent stutters.
Very bad user experience. Inexcusable considering the hardware. I for one am very disappointed.
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Do you have the exynos model? Because I just tried this in my note 3 S800 and didn't see any stutters. There was one micro stutter initially and then smooth sailing from there.
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MohJee said:
Do you have the exynos model? Because I just tried this in my note 3 S800 and didn't see any stutters. There was one micro stutter initially and then smooth sailing from there.
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Did any body 9005 user feel some dealy occessionaly while making screen off by power button. Occessionly so you have to check it many time. Reply will be hit by thank button.
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mwazeer said:
Did any body 9005 user feel some dealy occessionaly while making screen off by power button. Occessionly so you have to check it many time. Reply will be hit by thank button.
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Yes it happened to me but it was rare.
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I know a lot of people say don't use theverge.com to test the device... but what I found strange is:
The iPhone does not have ANY problems with that website, 4, 4S or 5.
The Galaxy S3 both the dual core US snap version and quad core international exynos versions, My Nexus 4 and Note 2, do not have any problems with theverge.com desktop or any other website.
The real kicker is this, my HTC One had ZERO issues with theverge.com, either in the stock browser or chrome. It flies through that website like butter. The S4 which has the same but "better binned" AB S600 chipset grinds to a halt with that website and other graphic intense websites, even XDA desktop will bring the S4 to it's knees sometimes. To level the playing field, I installed chrome on both my S4 and HTC One, theverge.com desktop version flies on the HTC but grinds to a halt on the S4 using the same chipset and same browser. So what's going on here??!
My recently acquired LG G2 is running an s800 and is an absolute monster when it comes to web browsing. Probably the fastest and smoothest web browsing I've ever encountered. I'm really hopeful that the N3 will at least be on par with it when it comes to a simple task like web browsing. Crossing my fingers, from what I've read so far I'm not holding my breath.

Your galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition experience - pro's and con's

Hello I created this thread to share each of our thoughts, opinions, and feelings about the device so far.
I'll start.
Pro's
So far I really like this device. The screen display is the best I've seen so far.
One of the best features is multi tasking. The screen size makes perfect sense for doing so compared smartphones.
The main reason I ordered this tablet is because of college. Reading articles and textbooks are great due to 1080p display and it's pixels per inch.
My magazine/flipboard is a great integration into touchwiz ui even thought it feels laggy at first.
Con's
Though this is branded as a high spec device, I did notice some minor lag which doesn't bother me to much. But for a high end device and it's asking price, it's unexceptional!
Missing certain note 3 features like nfc, usb3.0
Physical buttons personally isn't the best idea. When I use this device in portrait mode, my fingers sometimes might hit them.
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Anyone want to share your impressions and experience about the device so far?
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Pros
- SPen
- Multi Windows Feature
- Hardwarekeys
Cons
- very hot around the camera (in Potrait Mode its to warm for me, on the other side is the home button)
- lags are often (Chrome, Firefox extremly. other Browser ok but not for a tablet for this price)

Agree almost entirely with op. Hopefully custom toms get rid of lag.
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I'm coming from the TF700, so I'm in heaven.
My pro's, beside not having extreme lag like my Infinity, are the screen and, also, the feel. The TF700 used to dig into my hands when I was holding it between my thumb and forefinger. This device is smoother on my fingers; when I hold the device in the same way, the device doesn't cut into my hands.
My cons are basically using Touchwiz (this is my first Sammy-d, so I have to become adjusted and figure out where to go to adjust settings and what-not. I also don't care for the physical buttons, because I'm constantly changing from portrait to landscape, and vice-verse.
But, overall...I'm very happy; I'll put up with the little things as long as I have a tablet that will do what I tell it to do, instead of waiting for an eternity.
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Pros: screen is awesome. S pen seems better than original, stock video player does better job with media server
Con's: Listening to all the people who probably do not even own the device talk about lag!
I propose that you have to prove ownership of note 2014 to post a complaint about lag AND show video proof.

Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween

Just to let you know the resolution is higher than 1080P.
I agree with Most of your list though
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Pros:
-Display (as everyone has already mentioned).
-Design is sleek and much more comfortable and easy to handle than the previous model. I love the hard buttons and it works well with me. One issue I have heard about though is that the main menu button isn't receded so sometimes when pressure is applied to a case around that area it will wake up the tablet. As I don't have a case yet I can't confirm that this is an issue, but I believe just be running my finger over the button.
-S Pen (for the most part)
-And despite what many have said this thing is generally very fast. It's only within some applications that it gets a little laggy and I'm hoping that this will improve with software updates.
Cons:
-Mainly the software. I hate the new S Note. So much in fact, that I purchased Lecture Notes without having received my galaxy perks (which I"m still waiting on actually). Also I was a little disappointed that the air command wasn't customizable as I had heard it would be (or maybe I just haven't figured out how to do that yet). Taking screen shots with the lasso and s-button seems slower than it was in the older model, but I love that there are more options to shape the outline more cleanly.I'd also really love to be able to uninstall or disable some of the bloatware, like mymagazines. I'm sure it's a great app, but I personally have no need for it.
-There are hardly any accessories out for this baby yet. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with a case.
-The back of the tablet gets a little warm, but not so warm to the point where I'd be concerned about it. I've had laptops that would get uncomfortably hot so maybe I've just been desensitized to this issue.
And the biggest problem I've had with this thing... the thing that has actually made me consider returning it is the customer service. I have not gotten my perks yet and contacted them several times only to get the run around. Each time I called back I found out that they had taken my information incorrectly and I honestly feel like they were toying with me. I spoke with one rep who seems more genuine than the others and said I should get them by Thursday so I'm holding out hope. There is no way I'll take this thing back, but if I dont' get my perks I may reach out to a friend who works for samsung in Korea. It'd be an awkward convo though cause I haven't spoken to the guy in years.... 대한민국!

May be off topic (I am not writing a review) but I think 'lag' in general on this device is unacceptable. If you're advertising a powerhouse piece of technology and it stutters in an internet browser then something is wrong. Using a different launcher to reduce 'lag' is also unacceptable as it shouldn't even be there in the first place! Hopefully new firmware irons out the kinks (I'm sure the lag isn't tablet-related as it just needs some optimization)

rushless said:
Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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As someone with both the this device and an HTC one, I can say that the note certainly lags more. It's not something that's major, but it's certainly noticeable if your coming from something smoother.
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rushless said:
Oh yeah!? Well....... I say anybody NOT having lag should also prove it with video and at least two ghost apparition sightings. It IS nearing Halloween
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I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.

Sitting next to my rooted S3 running AOSP 4.3 it's a bit laggier. That's undeniable, IMO, and I'd argue that it's because of Samsung's bloated OS additions. It's not a device problem, I don't think.
However... I could not possibly care less. It's attractive, feels AMAZING in the hands (why is everyone complaining about the back?? I don't even want a case!!), the speakers are burly, the screen is superb, the stylus with the art apps can make stuff that looks like it was tone with a Wacom tablet, the cameras are SURPRISINGLY solid, it multi-tasks more like a PC than any tablet I've ever seen, and it's just... a joy to use.

gina$zanboti said:
I recorded a video on my crappy iphone, but i can't transfer it and i refuse to install that memory hog of crap itunes to get to it. I should be getting a note 2 in the next couple of weeks so i'll take a video then. is there anything in particular that you wanted me to do on it?
I admittedly dont' do too much on it besides browsing and taking notes. The worst I've seen the lag is when I have a webbroswer open and I'm writing in lecture notes. the writing shows up a second after i've written something and that is a bit annoying. Over all though I think people are being too critical of the lag. It's not so bad that it's keeping me from working on it (with the exception of using split screen between lecture notes and the default browser.
Besides for this tablet it's all about the s pen. if it wasn't for that i wouldn't have bothered with a tablet at all. I think smart phones are good for when you're on the move and if i'm going to sit down to watch a movie or do some gaming... well that's what i've got my laptop for. I don't live in a big city with good public transportation, but i could easily see myself just using my phone to watch a movie on a train or bus. I wouldn't bring out a tablet for that even if I owned one.
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Seems a lot of us sometimes forget the TRUE bottleneck of Android: The byte code Dalvik layer. This type of coding is not exactly multithread friendly and IMO seems amazing as good as the current passive cooled chipsets can do what they already do. Case in point, I never would have thought back in the G1 days emulators would be as efficient (MAME, PSX, PSP, N64). Then again, those apps are designed to not be multi-tasked.
IMO the issue is not as much the hardware or OE rom, but the platform itself as far as having global impact to software. iOS is not much better and ALSO lags. Such is the price of balance: Platform security (iOS andDalvik constraints), passive cooled devices, battery efficiency, etc.

Pros: Beautiful screen
feel and weight in your hand (compared to the previous version - which wasn't bad either)
S-Pen is less laggy and the finer screen allows for more precise writing/drawing
Cons: S-Note. I want the old version back.
Physical buttons. I really miss the natural "awareness" of where they are as compared to the old one where they were always at the
bottom of the screen.
Battery life isn't as nice as the first (alot more pixels to push I guess)
Lack of accessories (I'd really like a case)
Lack of root. I REALLY miss the 'add anything' multiwindow support'
I've waited a long time for a note 10.1 with this resolution but I'm considering returning it

I returned mine to BB. For a high end device and the associated high price I didn't find the performance acceptable. Hoping for this or that doesn't cut it for me. If it doesn't perform up to expectations out of the box, it goes back. I'll keep using my better performing Nexus 10 until version 2 of that device comes out.
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Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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BigStuart said:
Count me among the disappointed... I got mine on launch day, and it's slower than last year's note 10.1.
New S Note is inexplicable.
Occasionally it hangs up and is unresponsive for at least a minute. (Happened in my beloved Lecturenotes as well as others)
Try this for a demo of the lag, I use LectureNotes with double tap zoom mode... open a note, double tap to enable zooming, pinch to zoom to 200%. Now double tap again to zoom back to 100% and watch it stutter. You can keep double tapping to switch between 100% and 200% and see the terrible lag. Do the same on last year's note 10.1 to compare.
It's not good enough. I expected this to be an upgrade!
I love the display, I love the more compact form factor, and I'll get used to the new buttons eventually.
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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.

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Key words: launch day. I know it's ****ty that a new device gets rolled out with imperfect software, but that's what this is. An update or two and this will be perfect. The 10.1, by the time we all upgraded, had a lot of updates to it that ironed out its issues.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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You're probably right, but it's shameful that the new note is slower than the old one, launch day or not.
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There's a few culprits here.
1) Software just plain isn't optimized for all the cores. Think about the tech advances from the old G1 to now. Are our devices now as much faster, proportionally speaking, as they are more powerful? Not by a long shot.
2) Was the launch day 10.1 2012 faster? I don't think. But that goes back to what I said earlier.
3) I feel like the new OS is just bloated as all hell. The device isn't slower, the burly Touchwiz is. It's like getting a brand new laptop and it takes longer to start: the PC isn't the problem, it's the new Windows.

With the second update, Samsung has solved the problems of lag?

With the second update, Samsung has solved the problems of lag?
Samsung has released the second update for this tablet (Note 10.1 2014),
It is true that is fine as butter?
No more problems with lag?
Everything is as smooth as we would like?
The PDF with lots of data and photos
move perfect?
A greeting

The second update screwed up my SGN pretty bad. It black screens, apps won't update, wifi is spotty, web pages won't load, tablet won't unlock properly and when it does, it does to black screen. For this having such high specs, it runs slower than my N7 2012 on half the stuff. At least Apex works well so I don't have the lag but over all I wish I would have never bought this tablet. I wish I would have waited for the Dell Venue Pro 8. In fact with Nokia really producing some great phones and Windows 8.1 fixing most of the issues I had with Win8, this will probably be the last Android device I ever own. I have a Nokia 928 and it is heads above any Android phone I have ever owned from quality to speed to camera and now with the 1520 coming out (929 for Verizon) coupled with a real proc that can run full W8.1 in the new Atom, I can't see why I would accept so many compromises from Android anymore. While I love the stylus capability of my Note, I have major buyers remorse.

I have had the exact opposite experience of the person above. No problems at all. This tablet has been one of the best pieces of tech that I have bought in a while.

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I have had the exact opposite experience of the person above. No problems at all. This tablet has been one of the best pieces of tech that I have bought in a while.
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Did you get the second update yet? It was about 9mb and I got it on mine about 4 or 5 days ago? I'm just wondering if I have a faulty model or if I just need to do reset (talk about a pain in the arse). Before this last update my tablet was awesome.

ajamudc said:
I have had the exact opposite experience of the person above. No problems at all. This tablet has been one of the best pieces of tech that I have bought in a while.
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TheBigSaxon said:
Did you get the second update yet? It was about 9mb and I got it on mine about 4 or 5 days ago? I'm just wondering if I have a faulty model or if I just need to do reset (talk about a pain in the arse). Before this last update my tablet was awesome.
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TheBigSaxon my friend, I see that your tablet works perfectly,
does not have the lag that everyone comments?
how about from this second update?
Read the friend ajamudc and do not want to buy this tablet
We await your response

i saw 0 difference in each update. i held on to the original firmware for a week before upgrading and no significant increase or decrease in performance.
rooting did nothing either, but i don't expect it to. it just allowed to to freeze crap and install some useful programs.

madsquabbles said:
i saw 0 difference in each update. i held on to the original firmware for a week before upgrading and no significant increase or decrease in performance.
rooting did nothing either, but i don't expect it to. it just allowed to to freeze crap and install some useful programs.
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Then you keep noticing delay?
You have lag?
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I have had the exact opposite experience of the person above. No problems at all.
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You have lag? nothing?

TheBigSaxon said:
Did you get the second update yet? It was about 9mb and I got it on mine about 4 or 5 days ago? I'm just wondering if I have a faulty model or if I just need to do reset (talk about a pain in the arse). Before this last update my tablet was awesome.
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Yeah, I took the second update and didn't have any issues. I would try a factory reset. Maybe you got a bad download? Maybe someone else can chime in, but I haven't seen anybody else describe the issues you are describing.

I don't know what the "out of the box" performance was like. I've only had mine a few days. When I first booted it up, it prompted me to update and I went ahead. It rebooted, then prompted me to update again, and again, I went ahead and updated. So, I never used it before either update for comparison sake. But, I will say that this is the best tablet I've ever used! Before this, I had a piece of crap ASUS Transformer Infinity which I hated because it was a piece of crap. Before that I had a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (the original) which I loved and wished I had back every time I touched the ASUS. So it may just be coming from the Transformer, but the Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) feels buttery smooth to me. I love it more and, even after only a couple days, I find myself using it for much more than I ever used either of my previous tablets for.

I echo HeathicusF's experience. I never ran the Galaxy without the two updates as they downloaded as soon as I turned on the tablet. I also upgraded from the Transformer TF700 and while I didn't have the same negative feelings about the ASUS, the Galaxy is far and away superior. No lag at all, a beautiful screen and the multi window make this the best tablet I've owned or seen. I would recommend it to anyone.

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I echo HeathicusF's experience. I never ran the Galaxy without the two updates as they downloaded as soon as I turned on the tablet. I also upgraded from the Transformer TF700 and while I didn't have the same negative feelings about the ASUS, the Galaxy is far and away superior. No lag at all, a beautiful screen and the multi window make this the best tablet I've owned or seen. I would recommend it to anyone.
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This is where I feel that perception of lag is relative. I get choppiness when I pull down the notification bar often and when I hit the home button it will take a half second to go to the home screen and the fade out transition animation will be really laggy. I have a hard time believing that other people aren't getting this too, maybe they just don't notice it the same as others do.
It's just odd that there will be a thread on lag and someone will say theirs is perfect with no lag ever and others will say its terrible. I am guessing all units are the same (with the exception of a faulty one) but it's just everyone's own critical eye that is the difference. I am overall pretty happy with it, a little extra fluidity would be great though...

I'm experiencing no lag, except for the wake button taking about 2 to 3 seconds to have any effect.
The only thing I am perplexed about is that when I exit out of an app, the homescreen wallpaper is screwy. It shifts and there are black bars on either side before it settles down into the regular wallpaper look. Very annoying.
And whenever I exit out of LectureNotes, for some reason, the wallpaper is completely gone. Just black space.

I'm not sure if I'm just not as picky as others but after the 1st and 2nd update this thing is pretty fast to me. The only thing I do see that others have mentioned is that sometimes it may take a second or two to wake from lock. But I now have a case with the wake upon opening the cover thing so it's ready to go by the time I have the cover flipped to the back. No biggie

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This is where I feel that perception of lag is relative. I get choppiness when I pull down the notification bar often and when I hit the home button it will take a half second to go to the home screen and the fade out transition animation will be really laggy. I have a hard time believing that other people aren't getting this too, maybe they just don't notice it the same as others do.
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it's all about how you use it. i used to use feedly as my rss reader but switched back to the old reader since i prefer using a tabbed browser vs an app (i know i can use feedly's full web, but i've gotten to like the old reader). on ff, i get minor stuttering as it marks articles read, on chrome it's bad tot he point that i give up. if i turn it portrait the lag goes away. in neither orientation is it as smooth as my gn8, gn2, or s4 and this is supposed to be a more powerful product (granted it does have more pixels to push).
on "normal" webistes, it's just as good as my other tablets/phones though.

@Han Solo 1: You are hiding the system bar in LectureNotes, aren't you? That a static wallpaper gets reset is a known issue when hiding the system bar in newer Android versions. To my knowledge, there is no fix. Curiously, the wallpaper recovers if you reboot, and a live wallpaper is not affected.

it seems there are different opinions
there who is going perfectly and without lag
and others who do very bad and many lag
I'm about to buy
(I once had the Note 10.1.'s have sold)
I do not know if the Nexus wait 10

I'm not experiencing any lag after the two updates. Notification bar is fine even if I choose to open and close it endlessly for whatever reason. I think some you guys should hard reset, or stop installing garbage apps I dunno. I just don't believe in all these lag posts, sorry.

Itchiee said:
I'm not experiencing any lag after the two updates. Notification bar is fine even if I choose to open and close it endlessly for whatever reason. I think some you guys should hard reset, or stop installing garbage apps I dunno. I just don't believe in all these lag posts, sorry.
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I don't believe it either. Everything single-window is super smooth for me. Now if I multitask with lecture notes and ezpdf there is some lag which is kind of annoying but about the same as it was on my old note 10.1. Still waiting for someone to rom this thing down the road. Might root soon instead just to get rid of all the worthless samsung bloat.

Yeah it is bloated via Samsung for sure. I've watched hd movies while surfing, I've been gaming the latest being Dead Trigger 2 and it's been great. I want to root to remove some bloat and hope someone gets the old multi window hack to add all programs. I cannot recommend this tablet enough....

I got to test a 16GB white version for 45 "whole" minutes. Must admit I noticed lag with the UI, but none when using apps. The lag went away when using Nova. Besides some UI lag, the tablet is faster than the Tegra 4's tested. Easily the fastest for game emulators. The UI is IMO the issue here. Should be stock Android, IMO.
I want one of these, but would get the 32gb version, so $636 counting tax. Boo! I like my Nook HD+ 32GB, but this is WAY better. Just not $450 better (cost difference between the two).
This makes my iPad 4 less appealing now, since even faster for apps and same display love. If I could have only one tablet though, it would now be the Sammy 2014.

So laggy!

I played with a tab pro 8.4 at Best Buy today for about 20 minutes because I was wondering if it could replace both my nexus 10 and my nexus 7 (2013). I think I changed my mind, given the sheer amount of lag I saw on any type of scrolling whatsoever. Changing home screens, flipping through the app drawer, scrolling in chrome, you name it. It was like using a device from 2010.
Boo on you, Samsung! Now I gotta shop some more.

Chrome works great for me. I haven't seen any delays in switching apps or opening magazine or multi window.
Then again, I have a clean install with a bunch of unused stuff disabled.

Don't go by the store demo. It's been discussed here before. The units in the store are running in an awful demo mode. It's very laggy and a terrible representation. I have the 8.4 and got rid of a Nexus 7 and an LG G Tab 8.3 and couldn't be happier.

I currently have the 2013 nexus 7 and have owned a nexus 10 both with custom roms and the stock 8.4 is faster then both, as mentioned you shouldn't base your opinion on a demo tablet
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Don't go by the store demo. It's been discussed here before. The units in the store are running in an awful demo mode. It's very laggy and a terrible representation.
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Well that's stupid. Why would they do that? It's got to hurt sales.

I doubt it matters. Most informed buyers buy based on reputable reviews from known sites.
People that buy based on playing with it in the store for a few minutes are either impulse buyers or are being sold by the salesguy.
That's the type of buyer that wouldn't know the performance difference either way...

Yeah I played with the 12.2, saw it lag numerous times and I love samsung products. I figured it was the demo software.
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I purchased an 8.4 and I can confirm that there is alot of lag throughout the os.
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I never had any lag on my 8.4 with the stock OS. Now that I'm running crpalmer's CM 11, I can't remember what lag is.
From my Pro Tab 8.4

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I purchased an 8.4 and I can confirm that there is alot of lag throughout the os.
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Have you encountered any lag or skipping frames while watching HD videos using Mx player ?
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Have you encountered any lag or skipping frames while watching HD videos using Mx player ?
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I haven't and I watch fairly large sized mkv files as well as smaller avi and mp4 files. I've watched about 15 hours of video on it since getting in hand. Not a single hiccup.

I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.

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I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.
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I second that. I care about how apps run, not how much time it takes to switch between them...
For me it is much faster than my prior G Pad and a better battery life (and much better screen!).
Thrilled with the 8.4

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I'm not sure I understand what people complain about with lag. If I'm running Touchwiz and scroll or use magazine/flip board UI I see a slight hesitation. It's there if I choose to nitpick but it doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect anything from a usage standpoint. God forbid the home button when pressed has a millisecond delay before going back to the home screen. Not trying to be an a** but I honestly think the people complaining would fine something else to complain about even if things were instantaneous.
The things I care about like the Internet or email or games and movies have no problem or lag at all. I came from the Nexus 7 and G Pad and couldn't be happier.
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We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.

Caelrie said:
We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.
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I've owned about 20 different tablets (Happy to post pics of them if you like). I can tell when a device lags during application use (video playback for example).
I haven't seen an instance of it yet with the 8.4. I've had tablets with terrible lag (The first Asus Transformer for example).

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We're not talking about the time it takes to open apps. We're talking about screen hitches and stutters. Maybe you've just never used a smooth device before so you don't know any better.
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So the Nexus 7 isn't smooth? Trust me I've had enough devices to understand the difference, and I clearly said in my post there is a slight bit of hesitation or stutter, but that it doesn't bother me. It's ever so slight. I'm saying I don't understand how this affects usage for people. Would I like it to be buttery smooth? Sure, but I can't complain as once in in an app, which is where 99 plus percent of my time is spent I don't see anything. It doesn't do it when gaming or watching movies or even surfing the Web. Most users wouldn't even notice it.
I am loving the device. I switched to Nova launcher and any stutter swiping is gone.

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So the Nexus 7 isn't smooth? Trust me I've had enough devices to understand the difference, and I clearly said in my post there is a slight bit of hesitation or stutter, but that it doesn't bother me. It's ever so slight. I'm saying I don't understand how this affects usage for people. Would I like it to be buttery smooth? Sure, but I can't complain as once in in an app, which is where 99 plus percent of my time is spent I don't see anything. It doesn't do it when gaming or watching movies or even surfing the Web. Most users wouldn't even notice it.
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I was mostly being snarky because the "you people would just find something to complain about even if it were perfect" line irked me. It's such a copout fanboy thing to say. Leave that crap on the Apple forums, where you're supposed to believe your device was handed down to you by God. Every device has something wrong with it. My nexus 7 is plagued with touch errors that I HOPE I've finally fixed with a custom flash.
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I am loving the device. I switched to Nova launcher and any stutter swiping is gone.
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What do you lose by going to Nova?

Caelrie said:
I was mostly being snarky because the "you people would just find something to complain about even if it were perfect" line irked me. It's such a copout fanboy thing to say. Leave that crap on the Apple forums, where you're supposed to believe your device was handed down to you by God. Every device has something wrong with it. My nexus 7 is plagued with touch errors that I HOPE I've finally fixed with a custom flash.
What do you lose by going to Nova?
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I've got it and it's not a fan boy thing as I'm not a Samsung fan normally. My intention wasn't to be an a**hole but I know it comes across that way. I'm glad you said no device is prefect and I completely agree with that. They all have something. And while my Nexus 7 was silky smooth with custom ROME and kernels, my first had many touch issues while the second was better but still there. Just the awful UI. I'm sure there is something more, but I haven't found it or just didn't need it to begin with. I'm very pleased with it

I am coming from a nexus 10 which I loved........ until my son did a cheetah flip and crushed the screen. I think my tab pro 8.4 is on par with my nexus. The screen is as good or better IMO. Video playback with MX player is perfectly smooth. Yes, every now and then there is a little stutter when switching screens. I've noticed that it is almost always when I go to or from the magazine ux screen.
I loved to bare bones UI of my nexus 10 but what can I say, I like all the options and eye candy of the Samsung tainted UI. I'm sure root and getting rid of a bunch of junk would probably help out quite a bit. I know it made a difference on my nexus.

How is web browsing lag? What frustrates me the most on my current tab (transformer infinity) is lots of lag in browsing in chrome... switching tabs sometimes pauses for several seconds, scrolling in pages it sometimes becomes unresponsive for seconds or will turn gray for a few seconds while it renders the next section.
For inexpensive tabs that is probably acceptable, but if I'm paying a premium I would expect a completely smooth experience. Can anyone comment on that?