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I have been regretting having only 16gb of storage on my moto X since all my other android items have 32gb and I somehow manage to burn through the 16gb all the time. I have also not had any luck getting root back since upgrading to 4.4 and am pretty bummed that no one has figured out how to unlock the bootloader. Has anyone ditched their basic 16gb moto x for a 32gb Dev edition? I am thinking it might be worth the extra hundred dollars or so since moto is having a sale on them. Vote and help decide the fate of my phone!:good:
I just did exactly what you are pondering and I'm happy with my decision. Took advantage of the recent $100 off deal to get my DE for $350, and I'll be selling my 16GB once I switch it over.
32gb not enough for me. Need 64gb or better yet 128gb. I'd settle for 32gb internal with micro SD card slot.
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32gb not enough for me. Need 64gb or better yet 128gb. I'd settle for 32gb internal with micro SD card slot.
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Good luck with your new phone then....how much you want for your X?
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Good luck with your new phone then....how much you want for your X?
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Lol. Not selling my X or note3. Using my X for my phone and keeping the note3 very close by.
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Lol. Not selling my X or note3. Using my X for my phone and keeping the note3 very close by.
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Damn. Need one for the wife. To replace her once beloved iPhone. Til she played with my x.
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Another line on our Verizon account was eligible for an upgrade, I have unlimited still. Upgraded the other line at a big box store to a 16GB for $1, swapped devices, purchased dev edition, activated, sold 16GB, sold the old Droid X and the net was $107 for a DE, other family member got an upgrade from Droid X to Gnex, and a 2 year renewed contract for them and I got to keep unlimited.
I'd sell it for the DE any day; double the memory, unlockable with warranty, easy everything. Super happy with my Verizon DE. Then again, I only had a standard black/woven black 16GB for less than 24 hours.
For 50 bucks more I'd get a DE without question. But I'm in Canada, so I got the regular X...but I'm extremely happy. And I'd never need 32gb....but that's me.
I'd still have gotten the DE tho....if I could have.
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I think the dev edition is worth it. Especially if you need 32gb. The unlocked bootloader is also great since you never have to worry about root getting locked down.
People keep talking like rooting and stuff is easier and/or better on the DE. LOL. Its no different in that way whatsoever than any other x that you can unlock the boot loader.
Exactly the same everything. Only difference is warranty stays in tact....otherwise no different than any other unlockable X.
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People keep talking like rooting and stuff is easier and/or better on the DE. LOL. Its no different in that way whatsoever than any other x that you can unlock the boot loader.
Exactly the same everything. Only difference is warranty stays in tact....otherwise no different than any other unlockable X.
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Except you can't unlock the bootloader on the regular AT&T and Verizon versions, the two largest carriers...
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Except you can't unlock the bootloader on the regular AT&T and Verizon versions, the two largest carriers...
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And why anyone would buy them is beyond me. Buy a used or new one from another carrier...and use it on those networks if you really want to be with them.
Never would I buy a phone I can't unlock. No way.
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Keeping in mind I'm not talking about the 99.5 percent of their customers that have never heard of rooting.
But us.....the 0.5 percent ....why would any of us buy an unlockable phone. May as well get an iPhone then. LOL
K....I take back the iPhone joke. The Moto x is better than iPhone out of the box.
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People keep talking like rooting and stuff is easier and/or better on the DE. LOL. Its no different in that way whatsoever than any other x that you can unlock the boot loader.
Exactly the same everything. Only difference is warranty stays in tact....otherwise no different than any other unlockable X.
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Rooting is easier on DE and/or gsm version with unlockable bootloader. I was so frustrated at the root methods not working and the extra hoop jumping and troubleshooting I said screw the warranty. I need my root. Android is worthless to me without it.
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Except you can't unlock the bootloader on the regular AT&T and Verizon versions, the two largest carriers...
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Probably stop buying from those useless morons who also put their ugly crappy logo on the phones. Unlocked GSM version baby.
32+ gigs and unlockable bootloader. Developer edition or not, those are things I would never compromise on any phone. Even if the phone came rooted out of the box, having an unlocked bootloader gives you the freedom to modify things you otherwise could not or should not. It's almost like asking freedom vs imprisonment., actually it's exactly like that.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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Probably stop buying from those useless morons who also put their ugly crappy logo on the phones. Unlocked GSM version baby.
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Yes, useless morons with the best coverage, and logo's I couldn't care less about.
After moving from Verizon to T-Mobile I can honestly say their coverage is overrated, but I think his point was to buy Dev editions from Motorola and you wouldn't have these issues. I would have gotten a Verizon Dev edition until Verizon explained that even If I buy a phone cash I still have to pay their overpriced monthly charges including subsidies for phones I bought years ago. Screw that. T-Mobile all day every day the savings is worth it.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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Yes, useless morons with the best coverage, and logo's I couldn't care less about.
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Good...hopefully Verizon puts more big ugly logos everywhere since their customers seem to like or not care.
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Good...hopefully Verizon puts more big ugly logos everywhere since their customers seem to like or not care.
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F*ck XDA can be full of dicks sometimes.
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What if he gets NO service anywhere around him other than with Verizon, "nah bro, just get the T-Mo one anyway" sh*t ton of good a phone with no service is.
Again...if I had to use Verizon say.....I'd get DE edition...or buy another compatible carriers phone and sim unlock it. I'd never own a phone I couldn't unlock. But that's just me.
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Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.
That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.
I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.
Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.
Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?
Don't forget about the note 4
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I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.
Time will tell though
This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.
I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.
Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.
It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.
I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).
Hi. I'm from London in the UK and I'm a massive Moto fan. I'm not quite sure when the moto z force will release here so I was wondering if I wired the money could someone but it for me and ship it over. Obviously il be covering all costs. Thanks
I'm willing to do that for you. You may want to consider waiting to see if the force version comes out internationally first so you can get one with a warranty. I won't be getting this device until September because the Verizon versions are sure to be locked down and unrootable. Something else to consider.
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I'm willing to do that for you. You may want to consider waiting to see if the force version comes out internationally first so you can get one with a warranty. I won't be getting this device until September because the Verizon versions are sure to be locked down and unrootable. Something else to consider.
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Also considering buying it when it's released. Verizon doesn't lock their phones, just google for "device-unlocking-policy verizon" Don't know about the rootable status though.
The network is not locked but the bootloader will be.
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I'm willing to do that for you. You may want to consider waiting to see if the force version comes out internationally first so you can get one with a warranty. I won't be getting this device until September because the Verizon versions are sure to be locked down and unrootable. Something else to consider.
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Everything I've read so far indicates that Moto Z Force is a Verizon exclusive in the US, there is no end date for this exclusivity, unlike Moto Z which will be available in September.
I'm just hoping that Mozo Z Force is not "world wide exclusive to Verizon" so that I can purchase it, but you won't be able to purchase it unlocked in the US.
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Everything I've read so far indicates that Moto Z Force is a Verizon exclusive in the US, there is no end date for this exclusivity, unlike Moto Z which will be available in September.
I'm just hoping that Mozo Z Force is not "world wide exclusive to Verizon" so that I can purchase it, but you won't be able to purchase it unlocked in the US.
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Verizon phones are not network locked. You can use them on any carrier. Whether or not LTE will work depends on your specific carriers bands.
Thanks. Appreciate the willingness to ship for me. Just wondering if I should just wait maybe for the uk release.
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Thanks. Appreciate the willingness to ship for me. Just wondering if I should just wait maybe for the uk release.
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The phone is up for preorder now and arrives next week if you want to do it.
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The phone is up for preorder now and arrives next week if you want to do it.
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Thanks. What would be the differences in the America release and uk release. Maybe just the Verizon logo I'm guessing. Do you know how much it costs? Then I can calculate how much it will be in pounds.
The difference between the two would be the Verizon logos, the bands may be different and LTE may not function right (or it could function perfectly), and the Verizon one won't be able to have an unlockable bootloader which means no root.
Retail price is $720.00 and only comes in 32gb version. Also if you preorder they give you the JBL mod for free right now. The phone also ships with one back cover as well as far as I know.
Hmm I see. Sounds like a gamble with the LTE and bands not working. Don't know what to do really want this phone.
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Hmm I see. Sounds like a gamble with the LTE and bands not working. Don't know what to do really want this phone.
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I'll wait for international release in 2 months, you probably do not want a Verizon phone unless you really have no other choice and cannot wait.
Even though Lenovo announced that it's "Worldwide Verizon exclusive", but I'm hoping it's just miscommunication. There are rumors that Moto Z and Moto Z Force will be released in China in September. As long as it's not "Worldwide Verizon exclusive", chances are Moto Z Force will be released in many more countries.
Hey seh6183. May have to take you up on the offer of shipping over the Z Force. The Moto Z is releasing in a few days and I've just got off the phone to Motorola and they are stating that the force may not even release in uk. Was wondering if the unlocked version has been released in the U.S....if so then do you know how much it is. Also what is it about the LTE that would cause problem so I can clarify with Motorola if it would be a problem. Thanks
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Was wondering if the unlocked version has been released in the U.S
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There will be no unlocked version in the US, it's forever exclusive to Verizon. Only Z and Z Play have unlocked version. Our only hope is Moto changes its mind and releases unlocked international version in other countries, but you'll never see an unlocked Z Force in the US.
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Hey seh6183. May have to take you up on the offer of shipping over the Z Force. The Moto Z is releasing in a few days and I've just got off the phone to Motorola and they are stating that the force may not even release in uk. Was wondering if the unlocked version has been released in the U.S....if so then do you know how much it is. Also what is it about the LTE that would cause problem so I can clarify with Motorola if it would be a problem. Thanks
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You have to look at the bands of the phone and try to figure out if they are compatible with your carrier. I know for sure it will work with your carrier, I just don't know how well the LTE will work. I am still willing to ship you a device if you'd like. I can buy it new or used and we can do paypal with or without the fees. However you want. I have been in your situation before and really wanted the Moto Razr HD and the only variant I could get was from Canada and no one would help me. I know how you feel lol.
Thanks for understanding.. you know how I'm feeling then. I will find out about the bands and whether it would actually work here. Are u aware of the price for new unlocked moto z? And why would they not release unlocked z force for u guys tbh would prefer the force because of the 21mp camera rather than the 13mp. Wonder if it's a massive difference anyway
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And why would they not release unlocked z force for u guys
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In US, most people get their phones from a carrier/telco. From what I understand (I'm not from US), a phone will not sell well if it's not an iPhone or a Galaxy if it's not available from a carrier. Phone manufacturers will need to partner with at least one carrier to sell the phones, and sometimes the carrier demands an exclusive as a condition of selling the phone.
Motorola has a long history with Verizon, so I guess they want to maintain the relationship and agreed to only sell Z Force through Verizon.
What I don't understand is why would they make it a "worldwide Verizon exclusive", it makes no sense at all. Verizon doesn't compete with other carriers in every other countries, so not selling Z Force in other countries is not benefiting Verizon. The only reason I can think of is to force anyone in US to purchase from Verizon if they really want a Z Force because there is no possibility of purchasing from other countries. So if you are a current AT&T customer and you really want a Z Force, you must purchase from Verizon and cannot purchase from UK. The number of people in this group will be so low that it's crazy to use this a a reason to not sell Z Force in other countries.
Seems a ridiculous thing to do. I think Motorola told me that they are not releasing just to force (mind the pun) customers into buying the Z. Hmmmm what would u guys do. I really wanna snap this up rather than waiting any longer. Will give it a thought over the weekend. Atleast I know there are helpful guys on here who are willing to give feedback and offer to ship. Thanks :highfive:
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Seems a ridiculous thing to do. I think Motorola told me that they are not releasing just to force (mind the pun) customers into buying the Z.
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Doesn't make sense at all, why would they prefer to sell Z over Z Force? I still think it's 100% to do their Verizon partnership, but if it's not, then it could be manufacturing/stock control issue. They were selling X Force in some countries last year, but this year not even Lenovo's home country (China) gets Z Force.
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Hmmmm what would u guys do. I really wanna snap this up rather than waiting any longer. Will give it a thought over the weekend.
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If you can wait, wait. If you really cannot wait, then IMO the downside of getting a Z Force Droid are:
1. No way to unlock the boot loader, so no way to root (unless a vulnerability is found, but that will probably be patched if you upgrade to any newer Android release, and you'll lose root)
2. Limited LTE bands
3. No support & warranty in UK
4. Updates are provided by Verizon, which doesn't have good track record
5. Bloatware - review says 17 of them. Some are removable, many are not
If you don't care about anything above, go ahead and get a Z Force Droid. Otherwise, think about Z or Z Play, depending on what features you value more.
Those first four reasons are pretty significant, the fifth one not so much as was stated it can either be uninstalled or disabled.
Hey guys , trying to unlock my Moto G4 Play but the the Moto site says my device is not eligible . However the OEM Unlock is turned on in settings? Any help would be appreciated, really want root.
Anyone? Please can't stand the bloat
Be patient. The XT1607 isn't even on the chart yet about what devices are eligible for unlock. It's the same model as the one sold unlocked by moto and Amazon, so I find it unlikely that it won't eventually get the unlock, but since it's only been out for 4 days now you need to chillax.
I plan to make a rom for cdma as soon as the unlock is possible, but it could be a few weeks/month.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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That's okay, it's still being sold direct from moto like the 1607 is as an unlocked cdma phone, so my statement *should* still apply. I think we're going to see a bootloader unlock very soon. Moto is just dragging their feet a little, I mean the stock restore images aren't even available yet for fixing a bricked phone.
As long as we're all patient, I really don't see this being one of the phones that doesn't get an unlock. It's in their best interest at this price point as an unlocked bootloader means some inexperienced users will brick them and since their bootloader is unlocked the warranty is void, which means they'll likely buy another to replace it because, let's face it: what other options are there for cdma, unlocked, under $200USD?
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I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
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I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
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This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
mx597turbo said:
Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
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This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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No one said it was about carrier unlocking. I was just pointing out the difference between the model numbers.
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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
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I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked
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No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked
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I returned it. I'll probably end up paying the extra $50 and get the unlocked version.
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I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
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I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
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I would imagine that all the G4 Plays are the same (hardware wise) and the GSM would be a software thing. I'm just making an assumption based on previous models, but it wouldn't matter much anyway if Moto/Verizon didn't allow anyway around it. Maybe someday someone will unlock one of these and we can test it out. Just a little curious.
HI
I have my xt1607 bricked, even no solution? Thank you
It's $336 with a $100 rebate after you pay your second bill. Unlimited data and hotspot included for $40 (first month is $25). It runs on Verizon's network and it has an unlockable bootloader. Hell of a deal. Just wanted to let my Merica' bros know. (Also I'm exicted to get some roms on this thing. Hope somebody's working on that.)
Other networks should work?
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It's $336 with a $100 rebate after you pay your second bill. Unlimited data and hotspot included for $40 (first month is $25). It runs on Verizon's network and it has an unlockable bootloader. Hell of a deal. Just wanted to let my Merica' bros know. (Also I'm exicted to get some roms on this thing. Hope somebody's working on that.)
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Should be able to use it on any network, with the right SIM, yes?
It has all the bands to work on any network, and if it's unlockable, then it shouldn't be tied down to Verizon.
So $336+25+40-100 = $301 effective price, and use on other network, drop Visible after 2 months. Since Z4 is $399 on Amazon, this seems like a clever way to go!
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Should be able to use it on any network, with the right SIM, yes?
It has all the bands to work on any network, and if it's unlockable, then it shouldn't be tied down to Verizon.
So $336+25+40-100 = $301 effective price, and use on other network, drop Visible after 2 months. Since Z4 is $399 on Amazon, this seems like a clever way to go!
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It's bootloader unlockable. Not carrier unlockable. (But I think they might ship the unlocked version of the phone. The model number is the retail version not the Verizon version.)
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It's bootloader unlockable. Not carrier unlockable. (But I think they might ship the unlocked version of the phone. The model number is the retail version not the Verizon version.)
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Well, maybe the Amazon version for $399 with 360 camera mod included is the best and safest deal, then.
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Well, maybe the Amazon version for $399 with 360 camera mod included is the best and safest deal, then.
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Yeah, I'd only recommend this deal if you want to actually switch to Visible.
How would it compare to the G Power? Is the SD 675 better then the 665? The Power feels slightly sluggish at times. Im thinking about returning it and going with the Z4 for Amoled alone.
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How would it compare to the G Power? Is the SD 675 better then the 665? The Power feels slightly sluggish at times. Im thinking about returning it and going with the Z4 for Amoled alone.
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This phone was a little slow feeling on 9 but with the 10 update it's silky smooth. Battery life is great too and you can use the battery moto mods to improve it.
I'm diggin this phone... Visible ain't half bad either