Hey guys , trying to unlock my Moto G4 Play but the the Moto site says my device is not eligible . However the OEM Unlock is turned on in settings? Any help would be appreciated, really want root.
Anyone? Please can't stand the bloat
Be patient. The XT1607 isn't even on the chart yet about what devices are eligible for unlock. It's the same model as the one sold unlocked by moto and Amazon, so I find it unlikely that it won't eventually get the unlock, but since it's only been out for 4 days now you need to chillax.
I plan to make a rom for cdma as soon as the unlock is possible, but it could be a few weeks/month.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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The Verizon model is the XT1609 from what I've read.
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That's okay, it's still being sold direct from moto like the 1607 is as an unlocked cdma phone, so my statement *should* still apply. I think we're going to see a bootloader unlock very soon. Moto is just dragging their feet a little, I mean the stock restore images aren't even available yet for fixing a bricked phone.
As long as we're all patient, I really don't see this being one of the phones that doesn't get an unlock. It's in their best interest at this price point as an unlocked bootloader means some inexperienced users will brick them and since their bootloader is unlocked the warranty is void, which means they'll likely buy another to replace it because, let's face it: what other options are there for cdma, unlocked, under $200USD?
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I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
mx597turbo said:
I just got the phone today - the standard, no-ads edition (xt1607). I was able to unlock the bootloader, even though the G4 Play is not listed on the motorola website. Chances are the Verizon version is locked down.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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texraid said:
After doing a little research, I found out that the XT1607 will work on all major American carriers including Verizon. The XT1609 looks to be a Verizon prepaid version of this phone.
https://opennetwork.verizonwireless...opment/devices-modules/devices/Judo_4739.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/06/moto-g4-play-deals-prime-exclusive/
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This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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How did you manage to unlock the bootloader? I set the OEM unlock toggle in developer settings, but when I copied the code from fastboot to the bootloader unlock site it said my XT1607 isn't eligible.
Maybe they just finally got around to adding it, so I'll try again
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Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
mx597turbo said:
Did you get the Amazon prime edition with ads? If so, the bootloader isn't unlockable. It was initially on the g4 and g4 plus, but they stopped allowing it back in July or August.
Correct, but Verizon typically doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. A Verizon branded phone probably won't be unlockable.
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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
agentfusion said:
This is about bootloader unlocking to flash a custom recovery, root, and roms... Not carrier unlocking.
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No one said it was about carrier unlocking. I was just pointing out the difference between the model numbers.
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well that bull, $100.00 to the first guy who can get the XT1609 bootloader unlocked.
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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
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Just sell the Verizon phone and pick up the no-ads version on Amazon for $150. Probably cheaper and faster :good:
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I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked
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No luck, I've tried for several days with no luck. I suppose the Verizon variant can't be bootloader unlocked
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I returned it. I'll probably end up paying the extra $50 and get the unlocked version.
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vgs929 said:
I got the phone today. I thought all Verizon phones were unlocked? I put in my at&t sim and it said to call Verizon in order to use the phone on a different network. Verizon had no clue why I was getting that message. Anyone know why I'm getting this message?
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Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
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I'd just contact moto and point out that their chart says the only g4 phones that can't unlock the bootloader are the Amazon prime exclusives, which the Verizon model is not. It certainly should be eligible.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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ryanl2299 said:
Kind of the wrong place for this question as this thread is about bootloader unlocking (for rooting), not carrier unlocking. I'm interested in any possible answer to this question too (seems like a half way decent budget smartphone to use on AT&T or Cricket) but from what I can gather, Verizon had a recent policy change which prohibits carrier unlocking until one year of ownership has passed. Maybe there is a workaround other than ebay (doesn't seem to be unlock codes for this phone there). Maybe you can try starting a new thread titled something like "Carrier Unlocking For Verizon Moto G4 Play" to get some more traction on this question. Good luck.
Edit: Didn't notice that you posted a couple of posts down saying that you got rid of it. Guess you could care less about unlocking it.
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
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Verizon does not allow bootloader unlocking of their Moto phones.
(The exception being the first Moto X, but it was only sold as a development edition)
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Verizon devices are not SIM locked, but the Verizon G4 Play is lacking GSM/HSPA.
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I would imagine that all the G4 Plays are the same (hardware wise) and the GSM would be a software thing. I'm just making an assumption based on previous models, but it wouldn't matter much anyway if Moto/Verizon didn't allow anyway around it. Maybe someday someone will unlock one of these and we can test it out. Just a little curious.
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I have my xt1607 bricked, even no solution? Thank you
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I purchased the G4 32GB model XT1625 from Amazon (not their ad version) over the weekend for $179. I followed the instructions how to request the bootloader unlock code from Motorola, it says my device is not eligible to unlock. Has anyone purchased XT1625 from Amazon and are able to get the unlock code from Moto?
This has already been covered, read the other threads. It was only available for about a week to unlock, then Motorola/Amazon put a stop to it apparently. Return the phone if not satisfied.
Doukeyakusha said:
This has already been covered, read the other threads. It was only available for about a week to unlock, then Motorola/Amazon put a stop to it apparently. Return the phone if not satisfied.
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Mine is not the Amazon ad version, it's the standard version, isn't that suppose to be eligible for bootloader unlcok from moto?
2kmy477 said:
Mine is not the Amazon ad version, it's the standard version, isn't that suppose to be eligible for bootloader unlcok from moto?
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. Some have said the Retail, non-ad version was supposed to be bootloader unlockable. Others were saying No Moto versions from Amazon qualified.
Here is the list. If you got the Non Prime Exclusive, it qualifies for the unlock: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 <-------according to that at least.
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Mine is not the Amazon ad version, it's the standard version, isn't that suppose to be eligible for bootloader unlcok from moto?
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That would tick me off just a little.
Doukeyakusha said:
Ah, thanks for clarifying. Some have said the Retail, non-ad version was supposed to be bootloader unlockable. Others were saying No Moto versions from Amazon qualified.
Here is the list. If you got the Non Prime Exclusive, it qualifies for the unlock: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 <-------according to that at least.
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Thanks for the link. I may have to contact Motorola for this.
Yep, no problem. hopefully you get it sorted.
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Thanks for the link. I may have to contact Motorola for this.
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Let us know how this turns out. Another suggestion, the Motorola Lenovo forums has a Bootloader Unlocking Assistance thread dedicated to helping folks get their phones unlocked. It would be worth a post there.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G4-Moto-G4-Plus/Bootloader-unlock-assistance/td-p/3366652
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I purchased the G4 32GB model XT1625 from Amazon (not their ad version) over the weekend for $179. I followed the instructions how to request the bootloader unlock code from Motorola, it says my device is not eligible to unlock. Has anyone purchased XT1625 from Amazon and are able to get the unlock code from Moto?
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When requesting the bootloader unlock, did you manually scrub the output of get_unlock_data? Or did you use the online data scrub tool?
Tel864 said:
Let us know how this turns out. Another suggestion, the Motorola Lenovo forums has a Bootloader Unlocking Assistance thread dedicated to helping folks get their phones unlocked. It would be worth a post there.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G4-Moto-G4-Plus/Bootloader-unlock-assistance/td-p/3366652
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I just got off the phone with support, the guy said G4 from Amazon (ads or no ads) will not qualify for bootloader unlock. This sucks.
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When requesting the bootloader unlock, did you manually scrub the output of get_unlock_data? Or did you use the online data scrub tool?
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I used both.
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I just got off the phone with support, the guy said G4 from Amazon (ads or no ads) will not qualify for bootloader unlock. This sucks.
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Yep, that sucks bigtime. I would imagine that their sales would go down if this became known. So apparently the only advantage of the no ad is ota's if one considers that an advantage.
I've already posted a 1 star review on Amazon and hopefully others will.
Ads or no ads? ... How is that possible?
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Ads or no ads? ... How is that possible?
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They're treating it like a phone you'd buy from AT&T or another carrier.
The Amazon ad subsidized phone understand... But the stock moto phone... I'm sceptic.
hi 2kmy477,
fyi, i received the moto g4 standard edition with the $50 instant rebate from amazon. i purchased the phone on the 8th of july and received the package on the 21st. Immediately after receiving the phone I did a bootloader unlock attempt and it worked on the first try. All I can say is make sure you copy all lines of the boot loader unlock string for your device that is shown after entering the fastboot bootloader unlock command. After copying the entire string, make sure to enter it into the online scrub tool that is on the bootloader unlock website of motorola.
Now use the cleaned bootloader unlock string from the online scrub tool to apply for a bootloader unlock code. This should activate a blue button labeled "Request Unlock Key", which will give you the unlock key once you click it.
If things don't work despite this, I don't know what to say. Motorola specifically said on their website that the "Prime Exclusive" version of the G4 will be locked officially, whereas other variants will not. As stated above, I received the standard edition of the G4 after the 19th of July which is when new bootloader unlock attempts for the Moto G4 Prime exclusive started to get blacklisted.
Also, make sure it says "retus" in the software channel of your phone. To locate the software channel of your phone, open the phone settings and tap on "about phone". "retus" is motorola's software channel for all moto g4 phones, except the prime exclusive version which has "amzn" instead of "retus". If you have "amzn" in your software channel, I think it is best to return your phone and get the standard edition from amazon.
Please let us know if you happen to resolve this problem!
Can anyone else confirm a non-ad subsidized, standard version Moto G4 if purchased from Amazon cannot be bootloader unlocked?!?!
Frankly, I would be shocked if a normal retail version was, but I want to verify... I was almost ready to click to purchase on one for my son who broke the screen on his Huawei Ascend Mate 2 this morning... I would really rather not if it can't be unlocked, I would just order it from Motonova and let him pick the color and stuff and he can use his old Nokia 520 for a few extra days.
aznindguy4u said:
hi 2kmy477,
fyi, i received the moto g4 standard edition with the $50 instant rebate from amazon. i purchased the phone on the 8th of july and received the package on the 21st. Immediately after receiving the phone I did a bootloader unlock attempt and it worked on the first try. All I can say is make sure you copy all lines of the boot loader unlock string for your device that is shown after entering the fastboot bootloader unlock command. After copying the entire string, make sure to enter it into the online scrub tool that is on the bootloader unlock website of motorola.
Now use the cleaned bootloader unlock string from the online scrub tool to apply for a bootloader unlock code. This should activate a blue button labeled "Request Unlock Key", which will give you the unlock key once you click it.
If things don't work despite this, I don't know what to say. Motorola specifically said on their website that the "Prime Exclusive" version of the G4 will be locked officially, whereas other variants will not. As stated above, I received the standard edition of the G4 after the 19th of July which is when new bootloader unlock attempts for the Moto G4 Prime exclusive started to get blacklisted.
Also, make sure it says "retus" in the software channel of your phone. To locate the software channel of your phone, open the phone settings and tap on "about phone". "retus" is motorola's software channel for all moto g4 phones, except the prime exclusive version which has "amzn" instead of "retus". If you have "amzn" in your software channel, I think it is best to return your phone and get the standard edition from amazon.
Please let us know if you happen to resolve this problem!
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I did exactly what you said in your post, no dice and yes, the software channel did show "retus". I'll return the phone back to Amazon or have them to replace the phone for me, can't beat their price of $179 for 32GB though. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help.
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Can anyone else confirm a non-ad subsidized, standard version Moto G4 if purchased from Amazon cannot be bootloader unlocked?!?!
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I just (15 minutes ago) unlocked the bootloader on my amazon-bought, non-ad version of the G4. Unlock code worked fine, I copy-pasted each line manually, including the "#"s.
Confirmed. Waited too long to unlock. Now i get "not eligible" message. /sigh
I believe I have found an exploit to get the bootloader unlock codes for older Motorola devices. The first person to post their fastboot oem get_unlock_data here for the Moto X, I will test it and give you an unlock code to test completely free. Thank you!
UPDATE- Your IMEI can be extracted from the get_unlock_data so post at your own risk.
unlock data
Asisentr11 said:
I believe I have found an exploit to get the bootloader unlock codes for older Motorola devices. The first person to post their fastboot oem get_unlock_data here for the Moto X, I will test it and give you an unlock code to test completely free. Thank you!
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Please Try it on my VZW moto x 2013 non dev
my unlock data is 9900045445590200#5430363238303934365700585431303630000000#556A5D37987FAE88A376E2D11170998961337125#383048050C0001000000000000000000
Can you please please test mine too?
AT&T moto x 2013 non dev
my data is
3A35120675112119#5430313133304656494F00000000000000000000#9C8A3EB4B932C713BF0BED505106F40AF10A1BA2#FF3349040C0001000000000000000000
XT1058 ATT 5.1 with Locked Bootloader
Any updates on whether or not you've got the exploit working?
I'd love to unlock my bootloader on my XT1058 ATT Model running 5.1.
If it works, can you please post your procedure?
you can help too? please, i can pad for him
my unlock key: 3A35120675184804#5430313133304830444400000000000000000000#659FDB2BA307263F26F9CAC419075B1DF5A4595F#F84503040C0001000000000000000000
Please Help me too
My unlock code is 3A35120665478562#5430313133304454505800000000000000000000#E9B3A650722CAD8D58C513AE0FFED34521D4576E#845CF5030C0001000000000000000000
Moto x 2013 - at&t 1058 android 5.1
Update, I have tested this exploit and it has been able to give me the codes for almost all unlock data strings I've tested it on.
I have tested it on 19 devices:
8 XT1060 ( Verizon )
5 XT1056 ( Sprint )
5 XT1058 ( AT&T )
1 XT1053 ( Unlocked)
The only device it did not work on was the XT1053, or the unlocked version. I've been able to get codes for the other 18 devices. I have tested the codes out on 6 of them, and they all worked. I haven't been able to test the codes on all of the devices because most were from online and I didn't have access to the devices.
Asisentr11 said:
Update, I have tested this exploit and it has been able to give me the codes for almost all unlock data strings I've tested it on.
I have tested it on 19 devices:
8 XT1060 ( Verizon )
5 XT1056 ( Sprint )
5 XT1058 ( AT&T )
1 XT1053 ( Unlocked)
The only device it did not work on was the XT1053, or the unlocked version. I've been able to get codes for the other 18 devices. I have tested the codes out on 6 of them, and they all worked. I haven't been able to test the codes on all of the devices because most were from online and I didn't have access to the devices.
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Care to help us too?
MonashaS said:
Care to help us too?
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I'm currently working on a way to automate it. It will be released either through apk, or a website.
Update: I am currently coding the website for this. Right now it will only work with the Moto X 1st gen, I might try to expand to other devices later.
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I'm currently working on a way to automate it. It will be released either through apk, or a website.
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Thank you so much.
xt1056
unlock data : 9900029377953700#543036333230314E324B00585431303439000000#E83AF8E581B7FA2F45A671A74FC9CAAC6C208286#534B05040C0001000000000000000000
can you please gimme unlock code
I have many phones like that just this one for testing
Wow, this is pretty cool news if it turns out to be useful. I just saw a Moto X in a pawn shop the other day, one of my favorite phones of all time and now because of this thread I'm thinking about going to get it.
Might just have to do that if I can talk 'em down on the price to make it worthwhile, if I do get - and it works fine and isn't already unlocked (fat chance of that but you just never know) - I'd love to see if it'll work with this methodology the OP has come up with.
Guess I'll take a walk over and see what's up with that Moto X, think it's an AT&T version but I can't remember precisely.
Good luck with things, regardless...
EDIT:
Ok, so I went and grabbed that Moto X, it's an AT&T XT1058 as we all know, black model, nary a mark on it so whoever owned it previously sure did a great job taking care of it thankfully. I'll post the unlock info just in case the OP cares to give it a go but if not I can wait till he/she might have that automated method available.
The unlock info for this XT1058 is:
3A35120695322625#543031313330474A534700585431303538000000#8824CC4590B14CA4D15FAD760B586CEB67232790#635986040C0001000000000000000000
and of course I checked it with Motorola and they obviously won't allow it to unlock since it's the AT&T variant. But anyway, there it is, so fingers crossed I suppose. I missed my original Moto X, still have some accessories for it including a Griffin desktop stand I got for my original one from Motorola for free so I might have to dig that out of a closet and make use of it again. Small phone nowadays compared to modern monster 5" and larger beasts but I do still love the Moto X and I'm glad I got another one.
(for whatever reason, when I look at that code above it has 2 spaces in it as displayed by my browser which if Firefox ESR but it doesn't have any spaces when I copied/pasted it, and I see the same thing for other codes posted above - just wanted to say that for some reason, 132 digits long)
Need Unlock Data
Asisentr11 said:
I believe I have found an exploit to get the bootloader unlock codes for older Motorola devices. The first person to post their fastboot oem get_unlock_data here for the Moto X, I will test it and give you an unlock code to test completely free. Thank you!
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3A35120665613310#54303632323033344F5400000000000000000000#7A04F4EA39F11EF50E8A7179855532E4EE8A88CF#F50630040C0001000000000000000000
XT1058 ATT 5.1
Need unlock data T_T help pls
This Will Be Awesome!
Asisentr11 said:
I'm currently working on a way to automate it. It will be released either through apk, or a website.
Update: I am currently coding the website for this. Right now it will only work with the Moto X 1st gen, I might try to expand to other devices later.
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Asisentr11,
Thank You for doing this! My wife and I bought 2 Moto X 2013 (non-dev) phones under Verizon, when we had their Unlimited Data Plan. Right after we bought the phones, Verizon changed their plans and Unlimited Data users were promptly charged extra $$$ for it! So we go to Motorola to get unlock codes (so we can get better battery life, etc.) and they say that they cannot give me the unlock code! If your method works, we will definitely apply it.
Best Wishes with this!
Brick and Unbrick 3 times while playing around moto x
9900045439379100#5430363230303558305100585431303630000000#91083E2378D748D89C92D61BC102C24DAC46E63F#0CFA99040C0001000000000000000000
I would kill for a unlock code.Embrace me
verizon 5.1 LPAS23.12-39.7-1
3A35120685627189#5430313133304951534A00000000000000000000#9B41D4BC473E4A6EC303D5ED05B0DE4F8260CD76#2712AC040C0001000000000000000000
Is it my ATT&T android 4.2.2 xt1058
The OP posted something about the Moto Z basically a week ago and hasn't made a peep since so, either he/she will come back and provide an update at some point or this is just another pipe dream in the wind, so to speak.
unlock data
9900012077259700#54303632383032435A5000000000000000000000#BDBC8E67830CC4D138C32A06C1B824668201B141#91F70A040C0001000000000000000000
xt1060 (2013) VZW
android 5.1
thanks
Any chance you could test on the Republic Wireless firmware? I'm very interested in that.
9900045450090800#54303632383036
32354200585431303630000000#09B8
1E24EFD6D2D9FAF2F6B8B96DE5A82E4
D895D#BE52DD040C000100000000000
0000000 plz give me unlock key plz.
Does anyone have any tips? I've tried Kingoroot with no luck.
Have to unlock bootloader first.
Which is not possible at this time with this Verizon phone.
Buy an X-Force
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Buy an X-Force
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Or if he needs Verizon, get a phone where XDA forum shows the Verizon bootloader can be unlocked. For instance Droid Turbo XT1254 -- as long as it's not on the very latest firmware version (and Sunshine team is even working on that).
Or other Sunshine cracked phones.
Or Moto Nexus 6.
Point is, with Verizon phones you really have to research first before you buy -- if rooting is important to you.
So, I bought my Moto G4 off eBay for $100 (link). The seller says that the phones are store surplus units. I tried unlocking the bootloader on Motorolas website.But I got an error saying that my device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking. What gives? It's running 6.0.1. Is there a way to bypass this? Thanks!
By any chance did your phone prompt you to login to Amazon at setup? If so, then as far as I know, you won't be able to unlock it since moto has since stopped offering the oem unlock key for Amazon subsided devices.
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By any chance did your phone prompt you to login to Amazon at setup? If so, then as far as I know, you won't be able to unlock it since moto has since stopped offering the oem unlock key for Amazon subsided devices.
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Nope. Was running the retail software channel.
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Nope. Was running the retail software channel.
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Looks like you will have to call or contact Moto Directly to get an answer, cause if it was originally on the retail channel, there is no reason to deny you the ability to unlock your phone.
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Looks like you will have to call or contact Moto Directly to get an answer, cause if it was originally on the retail channel, there is no reason to deny you the ability to unlock your phone.
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I called them and they had no clue what the bootloader was.
It says unlocked for CARRIER, but you think it will be unlockable bootloader too, like the one from Google?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507485-REG/google_ga01184_us_pixel_4_xl_128gb.html
Comes with $100 gift card + 3 months free Mint + no tax in many states, so there is some reason to get it from here instead. Anyone have experience buying carrier-unlocked Pixels from B&H before, if they had unlockable bootloaders?
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It says unlocked for CARRIER, but you think it will be unlockable bootloader too, like the one from Google?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507485-REG/google_ga01184_us_pixel_4_xl_128gb.html
Comes with $100 gift card + 3 months free Mint + no tax in many states, so there is some reason to get it from here instead. Anyone have experience buying carrier-unlocked Pixels from B&H before, if they had unlockable bootloaders?
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As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
riyan65 said:
As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
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That wasn't the case with the Pixel 3 at launch, though. Back then, to get unlockable bootloader, you had to order from Google directly. Is it different now?
itiskonrad said:
That wasn't the case with the Pixel 3 at launch, though. Back then, to get unlockable bootloader, you had to order from Google directly. Is it different now?
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After the release of pixel 3a it should be unlockable to all devices, like verizon, best-buy,......, So it should be unlockable.
riyan65 said:
As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
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riyan65 said:
After the release of pixel 3a it should be unlockable to all devices, like verizon, best-buy,......, So it should be unlockable.
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The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
l7777 said:
The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
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l7777 said:
The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
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Verizon Pixel 3 XL still has a locked bootloader and is still not unlockable:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/bounty-unlock-bootloader-vzw-pixel-3-xl-t3856605
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device ...
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Since you're so sure this is true, please go help all of the Verizon device owners who post looking to unlock the bootloader. You could start with this recent Pixel 3XL post.
Of course, there is also the history that dates back to at least Nexus 6 days where the Verizon bootloader is locked.
Where people have really gotten bitten, is replacement devices that have come back after repairs with a unlockable bootloader like the Verizon devices have.
ktmom said:
Since you're so sure this is true, please go help all of the Verizon device owners who post looking to unlock the bootloader. You could start with this recent Pixel 3XL post.
Of course, there is also the history that dates back to at least Nexus 6 days where the Verizon bootloader is locked.
Where people have really gotten bitten, is replacement devices that have come back after repairs with a unlockable bootloader like the Verizon devices have.
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This. Verizon Pixel 2 official and any RMA Pixel 2 is not bootloader unlockable. As someone who has been through 4 until Google finally sent me a brand new Google-made Pixel 2, non Verizon, non RMA.
I haven't seen any reason to say Pixel 4 Verizon is easily unlockable.
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
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You have clearly never tried to bootloader unlock a Verizon device or you have some significantly different tools to do so and should share them with the community.
As others have pointed out, plenty of devices across the Pixel generations remain bootloader locked to this day. There are certainly smatterings of success stories with specific firmware versions but these are quickly patched.
There was recently some people that were able to unlock their Verizon Pixel 3a/XL modes after getting Verizon to carrier unlock them. But it has been attributed to a batch of MEID# that were likely incorrectly made available to bootloader unlock. Those people basically won the lottery. It certainly does not signal a change in Verizon's policy.
The best strategy is to have this mentality - if you buy a phone from Verizon (or any Verizon model phone) plan on it being permanently bootloader locked.
l7777 said:
You have clearly never tried to bootloader unlock a Verizon device or you have some significantly different tools to do so and should share them with the community.
As others have pointed out, plenty of devices across the Pixel generations remain bootloader locked to this day. There are certainly smatterings of success stories with specific firmware versions but these are quickly patched.
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I just unlock the bootloader as the given guide and it got unlocked, I didn't done anything to get it unlocked, I just use the guide how to unlock the bootloader and it got unlocked.so I thought it is available for all devices to unlock the bootloader.
riyan65 said:
I just unlock the bootloader as the given guide and it got unlocked, I didn't done anything to get it unlocked, I just use the guide how to unlock the bootloader and it got unlocked.so I thought it is available for all devices to unlock the bootloader.
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On non carrier specific devices, it's easy. On Verizon Google devices, it's rarely possible, and any vulnerability that's found is patched fast.
An authoritative statement like your post was is a problem. It has the potential to confuse the issue for people who come here for information, find an erroneous post and think they can safely buy a carrier device, still getting the bootloader unlocked.
Verizon was always a **** regarding unlocking bootloaders, they still haven't changed unfortunately.
thesebastian said:
Verizon was always a **** regarding unlocking bootloaders, they still haven't changed unfortunately.
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Yes. One does have to wonder what the bootloader unlock situation will look like now that the Pixel will be available from all carriers directly rather than just Verizon. Google still only lists Verizon as the only carrier specific option on their store. We will likely have to wait and see if the other carriers get unlockable bootloaders or not.