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GeoHot's Moto G Pledge

I've noticed that GeoHot stated this on his towelroot thread:
geohot said:
v2 is live! More support. Reboot on your own time.
Still no new HTC/Moto support from phones without writable system.
If someone is willing to give me one of these phones for testing I'll add support.
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The Moto G seems to be a good candidate, since it's very cheap (179$ the unbranded 8gb version, not sure if the 70$ verizon prepaid version is suitable for this) and should be enough for exploiting. Unfortunately I can't afford to buy one by myself, but with a bunch of pledges we can probably collect enough money for buying one for GeoHot. Probably this is the only concrete way to have a working root exploit with a locked bootloader.
I can start with a 20$ pledge. Anyone else?
Pledged:
20$ - Azarielz
20$ - BlueFlame4
10$ - super65man
5$ - giulio_splash
55$ pledged of ~179$ goal​

Sounds like a good idea. We better go for the unbranded version for 179$.
So I would add 20$. How can we donate to GeoHot?

BlueFlame4 said:
Sounds like a good idea. We better go for the unbranded version for 179$.
So I would add 20$. How can we donate to GeoHot?
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He has a paypal address he uses for the bounties ([email protected]). So when the needed money is pledged we can send everything directly to him, obviously taking care to note the transaction id.
40$ so far, good!

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So I sent geohot a PM to see if he is interested in a spare XT1028 I've got. It's verizon pre-paid which means no boot loader unlock, so not sure if it will work for him or not. Will post a f/u when I hear back.

boggessb said:
So I sent geohot a PM to see if he is interested in a spare XT1028 I've got. It's verizon pre-paid which means no boot loader unlock, so not sure if it will work for him or not. Will post a f/u when I hear back.
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Great! We'll wait for his response.
If it will do the job and he'll manage to make towelroot working with Moto devices, we should turn all the pledges (not much so far, but better than nothing) into donations for him.
Every new pledger is welcome then!

Azarielz said:
Great! We'll wait for his response.
If it will do the job and he'll manage to make towelroot working with Moto devices, we should turn all the pledges (not much so far, but better than nothing) into donations for him.
Every new pledger is welcome then!
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I'll throw in 10 bucks as well, always been a fan of geohots work, he's honestly the best hardware hacker I've ever seen.

super65man said:
I'll throw in 10 bucks as well, always been a fan of geohots work, he's honestly the best hardware hacker I've ever seen.
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Added to the pledgers list!

http://swappa.com/listing/JIK785/view Prepaid for $90
Are the prepaids the same as the the regular service ones but IMEI locked so they can't get on the network as a normal phone?

dlumberg said:
http://swappa.com/listing/JIK785/view Prepaid for $90
Are the prepaids the same as the the regular service ones but IMEI locked so they can't get on the network as a normal phone?
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The Moto G device listed in the link, is a XT1028.. which is 3G only, no SIM, works on Verizon only..cannot work on any other network..and its also a CDMA device..I do own one of this model..
Locked or Unlocked has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the carrier or the OS..
Sent from my 4.4.3_21.23.4
(Unlocked) XT1045 Moto G 4G LTE
http://waynekent.com/page6.html

NWKENT said:
The Moto G device listed in the link, is a XT1028.. which is 3G only, no SIM, works on Verizon only..cannot work on any other network..and its also a CDMA device..I do own one of this model..
Locked or Unlocked has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the carrier or the OS..
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(Unlocked) XT1045 Moto G 4G LTE
http://waynekent.com/page6.html
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OK, I have a moto x so I don't really know much about the Gs. Thanks for the info.

dlumberg said:
OK, I have a moto x so I don't really know much about the Gs. Thanks for the info.
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Yea the moto x, g, and e are pretty much the same phone with different features. Write protection is the same on all the devices, not sure about the droids though.

super65man said:
Yea the moto x, g, and e are pretty much the same phone with different features. Write protection is the same on all the devices, not sure about the droids though.
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Yes..XT1080M Droid Maxx and XT1080 Ultra..also have "Write Protection"..but that's another story and thread..lol
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(Unlocked) XT1080M Droid Maxx #1
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boggessb said:
So I sent geohot a PM to see if he is interested in a spare XT1028 I've got. It's verizon pre-paid which means no boot loader unlock, so not sure if it will work for him or not. Will post a f/u when I hear back.
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Any news from geohot?

Azarielz said:
Any news from geohot?
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Not a peep. Maybe he doesn't do PMs in XDA. Or maybe he's on vacation. Or hopefully neck deep in code
Either way, my offer still stands if he's interested. If any body else knows another way to contact him, feel free to pass it on.

boggessb said:
Not a peep. Maybe he doesn't do PMs in XDA. Or maybe he's on vacation. Or hopefully neck deep in code
Either way, my offer still stands if he's interested. If any body else knows another way to contact him, feel free to pass it on.
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Am I missing something, is this a root method of some kind? Don't we already have one?

MoseIlla said:
Am I missing something, is this a root method of some kind? Don't we already have one?
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It is. It's root without unlocking the bootloader.
It would help the people with the Verizon xt1031

5$ for me :fingers-crossed:

Azarielz said:
Any news from geohot?
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$55 is enough to get him the Verizon variant of the moto g from best buy. If he figures it out, the same method should work with all moto g's. As for getting him to respond. I would contact a xda mod and see if they can get a hold of him.
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DaKillaWilla said:
$55 is enough to get him the Verizon variant of the moto g from best buy. If he figures it out, the same method should work with all moto g's. As for getting him to respond. I would contact a xda mod and see if they can get a hold of him.
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The one I'm offering is the Best Buy Verizon pre-paid Moto G. I just sent a message to the e-mail he listed on the towelroot thread. I'll follow up with any response.

boggessb said:
The one I'm offering is the Best Buy Verizon pre-paid Moto G. I just sent a message to the e-mail he listed on the towelroot thread. I'll follow up with any response.
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Been a while, any news?

Someone root and unlock dis bish

Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.

LifeAsADroid said:
Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.

That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.
I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.
Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.
Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?

Don't forget about the note 4
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I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.
Time will tell though

This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.

I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.

fury683 said:
I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"

How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?

grin0048 said:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.

fury683 said:
My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.

grin0048 said:
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.

Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.
It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.

I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.

Poi25 said:
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.

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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.
I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.

Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.

roddem said:
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.

Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).

Do you think that the Tubro will get rooted and unlocked?

Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?

hfcobra said:
Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?
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Disabling apps seems to work just as well as Titanium Backup. The only real difference I can think of is that the apps are not deleted from your phone, so while being able to remove bloat without root, it appears we still cant gain the used storage space back.
Here is a useful guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/guide-how-to-disable-verizon-apps-droid-t2948849

hfcobra said:
Just decided to get the Turbo since the N6 is taking way too long to get released on Verizon. The black friday deals helped me get the phone for $50 today so I could not resist that deal for top of the line hardware.
What I am wondering though is what the community thinks about developer support for this phone? Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? Do you think there will be root access?
If both of those are obtained do you think there will even be enough support for the phone to have some fun with ROMs? Honestly the only thing that I want to get my phone unlocked and rooted for is to get rid of all the bloatware that verizon put on my phone. The ONLY reason. The OS is stock enough for me already but I want to get rid of all those crappy red apps along with all these amazon promotions...
So what do you think? Is it possible to get rid of the bloatware without rooting or unlocking?
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Disabling apps is a good option without root. Hard to say about root or BL unlock. Right now its seems extremely unlikely it will happen any time in the near future. Only hope is that the Moto Maxx will get a developer following which is close enough to Turbo.
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coreywallen said:
Disabling apps is a good option without root. Hard to say about root or BL unlock. Right now its seems extremely unlikely it will happen any time in the near future. Only hope is that the Moto Maxx will get a developer following which is close enough to Turbo.
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I have this thought in the back of my head that the Moto Maxx and its unlocked bootloader will help us obtain root and bl unlock on the turbo. Its literally the exact same phone, I feel devs may have enough freedom to play around with the files of the Maxx, and find some similarities and exploits usable on the Turbo. Just my thought. Its the same phone and with supported unlock. Its so close to our turbos.

We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.

pjcforpres said:
We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.
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Have you tried getting it from the Play store? lol. It's like hoping to win the lottery, except you have to play all the time, every second of the day.

if no devs working on Droid turbo.we will never ever see bl unlocked or root
like happens with Droid maxx

I'm on an old contract with a family plan and we pay $100 for the plan and $30 per smartphone. From how I understand it the plan does not make you pay for the phone over time. When you upgrade you just get that money off. So I'd be paying $400 extra for the Nexus than I'd have to.

pjcforpres said:
We might get root, and probably will at some point down the road. I doubt we will ever get an unlocked bootloader. The work that goes into doing that is very substantial, and with this being an exclusive device, is very unlikely.
Question for the OP.... why wouldn't you just buy the Nexus 6 straight from Google? Why is everyone talking about having to wait for Verizon to get it? But it from Google, and activate it on your account. Simple as that.
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Plus the deals they had today were just TOO good. $200 off a turbo? I couldv'e "bought" the 32gb version for free.
Don't get me wrong. I love the phone. Easily the best 5.2in phone out there. I just want to root to help battery even more and help get rid of apps I don't use while adding a few features I will.

I too jumped on the 64gb turbo yesterday. After trading in my OG Droid for $100 off the phone cost $60 after tax.. Comparing this to the N6 isn't fair.. The N6 is huge. As much as I want Nexus, and all that cones with that I just can't use a 6" phone on a daily basis..

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I too jumped on the 64gb turbo yesterday. After trading in my OG Droid for $100 off the phone cost $60 after tax.. Comparing this to the N6 isn't fair.. The N6 is huge. As much as I want Nexus, and all that cones with that I just can't use a 6" phone on a daily basis..
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I was really excited for the N6 since it was first announced. Being 6'5" I was sure I'd love it. Went to the store the other day and I just couldn't shake how silly it looked in my hands. Such an enourmouse device. Screen was amazing though. I wish it was 5.7" and the same shape. Then it would be slightly smaller than the Note 4 since it makes better use of screen size efficiency. That would have been perfect IMO.
Now I'm hoping the turbo gets the Dev support it needs so I have the best of both worlds!

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Plus the deals they had today were just TOO good. $200 off a turbo? I couldv'e "bought" the 32gb version for free.
Don't get me wrong. I love the phone. Easily the best 5.2in phone out there. I just want to root to help battery even more and help get rid of apps I don't use while adding a few features I will.
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I get taking advantage of discounts / contracts. I was just saying, I see a bunch of people saying they can't wait any longer for the Nexus to come out on Verizon, when you can already get it from Google or eBay, or Amazon... and use it with Verizon. Heck, you can but it from T-Mobile, and use it with Verizon. And was wondering why people keep saying they can't wait any longer for Verizon to carry it, when that has no impact on it working with their network, and only impacts getting it either at a 2yr agreement price / spreading payments out over 2 years.

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I get taking advantage of discounts / contracts. I was just saying, I see a bunch of people saying they can't wait any longer for the Nexus to come out on Verizon, when you can already get it from Google or eBay, or Amazon... and use it with Verizon. Heck, you can but it from T-Mobile, and use it with Verizon. And was wondering why people keep saying they can't wait any longer for Verizon to carry it, when that has no impact on it working with their network, and only impacts getting it either at a 2yr agreement price / spreading payments out over 2 years.
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And if you're lucky it may be covered with Verizon logos and full of bloatware with a locked boot loader! We love you Verizon and all the things you do for us!
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Purchase Force Z through Moto or Verizon?

If I get the Moto Z through Motorola will I bet getting an unlocked, rootable device? The other advantage is being able to get the 64GB option through Moto.

I think I have my answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/verizon-vs-unlocked-t3423412
Unlocked but restricted or something like that..

As I understand the Z FORCE is exclusive to Verizon. So no matter where you get it, it will be locked down no root or bootloader unlocking.

I am going to go for the Verizon version since there seems to be little benefit to the Moto version. Plus, the Verizon version is only $15/mo at 0%...

emtownsend said:
I am going to go for the Verizon version since there seems to be little benefit to the Moto version. Plus, the Verizon version is only $15/mo at 0%...
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I saw on pocket now daily they are $5.00 a month at bestbuy,

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I saw on pocket now daily they are $5.00 a month at bestbuy,
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That's for the regular Z, not the Force I believe.

PSA: The Visible version of this phone is bootloader unlockable (and cheaper)!

It's $336 with a $100 rebate after you pay your second bill. Unlimited data and hotspot included for $40 (first month is $25). It runs on Verizon's network and it has an unlockable bootloader. Hell of a deal. Just wanted to let my Merica' bros know. (Also I'm exicted to get some roms on this thing. Hope somebody's working on that.)

Other networks should work?
AssBlast said:
It's $336 with a $100 rebate after you pay your second bill. Unlimited data and hotspot included for $40 (first month is $25). It runs on Verizon's network and it has an unlockable bootloader. Hell of a deal. Just wanted to let my Merica' bros know. (Also I'm exicted to get some roms on this thing. Hope somebody's working on that.)
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Should be able to use it on any network, with the right SIM, yes?
It has all the bands to work on any network, and if it's unlockable, then it shouldn't be tied down to Verizon.
So $336+25+40-100 = $301 effective price, and use on other network, drop Visible after 2 months. Since Z4 is $399 on Amazon, this seems like a clever way to go!

cushcalc said:
Should be able to use it on any network, with the right SIM, yes?
It has all the bands to work on any network, and if it's unlockable, then it shouldn't be tied down to Verizon.
So $336+25+40-100 = $301 effective price, and use on other network, drop Visible after 2 months. Since Z4 is $399 on Amazon, this seems like a clever way to go!
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It's bootloader unlockable. Not carrier unlockable. (But I think they might ship the unlocked version of the phone. The model number is the retail version not the Verizon version.)

AssBlast said:
It's bootloader unlockable. Not carrier unlockable. (But I think they might ship the unlocked version of the phone. The model number is the retail version not the Verizon version.)
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Well, maybe the Amazon version for $399 with 360 camera mod included is the best and safest deal, then.

cushcalc said:
Well, maybe the Amazon version for $399 with 360 camera mod included is the best and safest deal, then.
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Yeah, I'd only recommend this deal if you want to actually switch to Visible.

How would it compare to the G Power? Is the SD 675 better then the 665? The Power feels slightly sluggish at times. Im thinking about returning it and going with the Z4 for Amoled alone.

carnivalrejectq said:
How would it compare to the G Power? Is the SD 675 better then the 665? The Power feels slightly sluggish at times. Im thinking about returning it and going with the Z4 for Amoled alone.
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This phone was a little slow feeling on 9 but with the 10 update it's silky smooth. Battery life is great too and you can use the battery moto mods to improve it.

I'm diggin this phone... Visible ain't half bad either