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Updated Dec 19 - Jelly bean for N8010 LG4 owners coming on Dec 27

I had complained to Samsung about the S-Note PDF import problem (it crashes when attempting to import any PDF) and my contact told me that they have uploaded "for Kies a new version of your OS with the pdf issue fixed. You should have access to it very soon if not already). I just plugged the Note into Kies but nothing's updated yet but hopefully it should be there soon enough.
Note that he said "a new version of your OS". I had previously told him that I'm on build IMM76D.N8010XWALG4 of Android 4.0.4 so we're probably just getting the fixed ICS version and not Jelly Bean. If I recall correctly the fixed build is IMM76D.N8010XWALI4 or something.
Update Dec 8 2012:
Got another text from my contact!
He says that the "Jelly Bean version GT-N8010 EUR OPEN 4.1.2 Maintenance Release (LG4 -> LI4)" is in the process of final verification at Samsung's India R&D cetner. He hasn't given me a timeframe but he'll let me know as soon as it's posted to Kies.
My only concern is that everything directly quoted has a bunch of contradictions in it, lol. First, as far as I can tell, "maintenance release" doesn't usually refer to going from one android version to another, but rather an update within the existing version. However, he specifically calls it Jelly Bean version of N8010 4.1.2. Lastly, LG4, and LI4 are the last three digits of most ICS / 4.0.4 CSC or PDA numbers, and not for Jelly Bean. So really what's going on? Heh. Time will tell.
Update Dec 19:
Got another text from Samsung customer support and here it is verbatim:
"LI4 Jelly Bean OS for your tablet will be released in Canada Dec 27th and will be available through Kies at that time."
So if your firmware is xwalg4 then you're getting jelly bean on Dec 27!

skadebo said:
So I had complained to Samsung about the S-Note PDF import problem (it crashes when attempting to import any PDF) and my contact told me that they have uploaded "for Kies a new version of your OS with the pdf issue fixed. You should have access to it very soon if not already). I just plugged the Note into Kies but nothing's updated yet but hopefully it should be there soon enough.
Note that he said "a new version of your OS". I had previously told him that I'm on build IMM76D.N8010XWALG4 of Android 4.0.4 so we're probably just getting the fixed ICS version and not Jelly Bean. If I recall correctly the fixed build is IMM76D.N8010XWALI4 or something.
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that would be awsome!

Kies is updating itself right now! Coincidence??
Edit: Aaaand nothing for the Note itself

Not entirely sure what this update is supposed to fix aside from this PDF import problem you have. Would much rather have the JB update, but this would be a start I guess.
Kind of a random question, but what does Canada fall under on Sammobile? We aren't listed in their firmware section.

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Not entirely sure what this update is supposed to fix aside from this PDF import problem you have. Would much rather have the JB update, but this would be a start I guess.
Kind of a random question, but what does Canada fall under on Sammobile? We aren't listed in their firmware section.
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Yep, sammobile doesn't have anything for Canada.

Indonesian Owner, wait for Dec 15, as Samsung told KOMPAS Daily in a press release. Update can be done via OTA or via Samsung Service Center. Suppose Samsung Canada can issue a press release as well.
See:
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http ://tekno.kompas.com/read/xml/2012/12/02/08594361/Siap-siap..Galaxy.Note.10.1.Bakal.Disuguhi.Jelly.Bean
It's in Indonesian Language, but there's always Google Translate if you need it.

Hi, any more updates from the Canadian side? When the hell are we getting JB? im looking to buy my first tablet for christmas and deciding between n10 and note 10.1..looking for a good door crasher event on boxing day lol..but hope note 10.1 gets jelly bean soon

It's going to get something I just don't know what! First post updated with new info Dec 8.

Can you give us some clarification on what you mean by "my contact". At first I thought you meant Samsung customer service or just some employee, but I'm not sure anymore.

I guess you could say he's customer support, but not the regular one because he called me after I sent my complaint to Samsung Canada CEO's office from their support page. I only did that after exhausting 'regular' customer support.

Updated again! Dec 27 it is!

I am not sure of that deadline because of the exploit they would be working on patching that first and then releasing the roms after so I feel everything will get delayed and it will depend is how easy it will be to get the patch out.
You need to remember the exy 4 processor device base is around 40 million n it becomes even a bigger issue when everyone know that how easy it is to hack.
So I think Samsung would be spending all developement on this

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Updated again! Dec 27 it is!
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great news! now i hope thats true,,i will probably be picking mine up on boxing day in canada so would love to have a jelly bean update the next day!

I for sure believe that deadline will not be met as the next market where note will be release will be europe, then asia n then us the fact is it has not gone beyond germany and even note 8000 has not reached asia

Italy doesn't have the update yet, as US. Do anyone have some news about the release date for Italy?
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I am not sure of that deadline because of the exploit they would be working on patching that first and then releasing the roms after so I feel everything will get delayed and it will depend is how easy it will be to get the patch out.
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Since the fix isn't ROM dependent they could send a patch out via Samsung Apps or Play also. That would be more efficient since they don't have the resources to update the ROMs individually on that many devices at the same time.
Here's their statement....
Samsung is aware of the potential security issue related to the Exynos processor and plans to provide a software update to address it as quickly as possible. The issue may arise only when a malicious application is operated on the affected devices; however, this does not affect most devices operating credible and authenticated applications. Samsung will continue to closely monitor the situation until the software fix has been made available to all affected mobile devices.​

Well you do not know what would it be required to patch it up as the patch we have is temp and not permanent they will have to rewrite the kernel in someway I guess and that will have implications how deep they are will decide how they bring out the patch.
This is not a OS flaw but a kernel flaw so it is a very serious issue.

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Well you do not know what would it be required to patch it up
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Does anyone? Chainfire plugged it without having to modify the ROM itself.
This is not a OS flaw but a kernel flaw so it is a very serious issue.
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I guess. Based on how I use my device(s) I'm not particularly worried about it. I don't visit sleazy websites, accept certificates for sites I don't know are reputable, and don't install no-name apps with few downloads. It's not as if some malicious code is going to find your device passively; you'll have to be the one to put your device in jeopardy proactively. I'd suggest people block "Unknown sources" in settings and set the "Show security warnings" in the browser.

Well even chainfire mentions its not the full patch but just a workaround and it screws up the camera which may not be important for note 10.1 owner but is to S3 and Note 2
Well after people know about this patch many would try to screw up the device just for fun, there are many who are newbies who can be targeted

I too am not sure they'll release an update in Canada on that date, but I really hope they do. It's a perfect time to do so too. Shortly after Christmas where some might get it as a present & right after boxing day where people will get it on sale.

Update Signs?

First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
People chime in if you get the notification!

Nothing for me yet.

It probably won't come out until the new Google phones do. I know it's difficult for flashaholics, but be patient.

Now I'm waiting for the September security update for Marshmallow, maybe it will be late too. They seem to be in a huge work.

This thread is the best sign.

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First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
People chime in if you get the notification!
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That's what intended mine to be, but it went south so fast! Lol no sign for me yet, I'm hoping maybe by tonight. It's REALLY behind said release date. Staying optimistic!

This is the only sign from Google I have seen.

Absolutely notting here. Not even the sept security update.

There will be a September in 2017,too

If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!

Hope it's soon.

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If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!
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Maybe tomorrow then, I forgot it was a holiday. What gets me is how they got everyone all riled up that it was gonna be in August, and it's gonna be out at the same time haha

Yeah Im ready for the official build too, this NPD90G preview wants me to want more, or at least some minor fixes.

No updates.............there will be speculations.
No speculations.....probably updates.

From what I've heard Qualcomm needs to do some driver upgrades for full Android N Support. If that is the case, it would explain why Google hasn't released the update yet, they simply can't until Qualcomm delivers. I can imagine Qualcomm has their hands full at the moment with all the smartphone companies out their requesting driver updates to support Android N as well.
I don't have any references for this, as I read it in a post somewhere but don't remember where. Don't take my word for it. But of course it would be interesting if someone could confirm or deny this.
I don't expect the update any time soon, but at least the latest beta runs very smoothly on my device. Can't complain at the moment.

Thats what has confused me DP5 runs well so id have thought it was near release quality but I guess not with the update taking so long. As far as qualcomm surely google should be the highest priority for drivers/updates given that they build the entire base that all other android phones base off? So an N driver for a specific SoC should work for all devices using that SoC?

I'm pretty satisfied with the Uber N ROM as is.

What @onemandivision said is correct, driver updates are critical. It's not just the kernel and the android base.
I'm a little confused by the delay though since it is already clear that phones on chips older than snapdragon 800/801 won't get nougat (ie 65-70% of all android phones according to some surveys), so there should be very few drivers to update/fine tune? Am I wrong?
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september update , my s7 edge still has the july update , samsung are dam slow pushing updates , my nexus 6 has the latest dev update but hope oneday soon the real 7.0 comes out.

New Marshmallow Image up... (MOB31E)

Next Android Security Patch Release?

Although I've lost track of when exactly they were pushed out by Lenovorola, I seem to recall my MotoX PE getting a November, then February, security patch and the "latest" May 2016 was pushed around July 20th... If that pattern (pushing out every 3rd Google release ~ 10 weeks later) holds true, might we see the August patch pushed later this month? Or will any more 6.0 patches be skipped in light of the future 7.x upgrade (whenever that may be)?

One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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I hear you... One of the reasons I bought a Nexus 5X in June when the price dropped. But looking at my MotoX since then reminds me it's otherwise a better phone imho (VoLTE works fine for me on TMo).
Question: I assume you had to unlock your bootloader to root and run CM ? If so, can you relock in that state? I had to unroot and flash stock multiple times before I was finally able to relock... I could be completely wrong, but I would think the benefit of timely, monthly security updates is outweighed by an unlocked bootloader and root access?

According to a twitter reply from Moto Support, they ditched even the quarterly security update.
" We're implementing essential patches.As new security issues emerge, we will evaluate them and update your phone as needed.-Maya"
Evaluating, means they may or may not release security patches so do not hold your breath for an August updated. Yet, Moto Support on twitter was very quick to reply the first inquiry. I encourage everyone to contact them with questions @Moto_Support Let them know or demands!

OEMs that promise 18 Months+ Software Support

Since Motorola / Lenovo now seem happy to abandon support for Moto G handsets within months of release, I thought it might be helpful to compile a list of OEMs that promise publicly (and hopefully deliver in timely fashion) 18 Months or more software support. I will update this post and clarify points when necessary.
Obviously Google's 'Pixel' and Samsung Flagship phones are in a completely different price-range to Moto G, but I'll include them for the sake of understanding the current situation.
Google 'Pixel' - Software Updates: 2 Years / Security fixes: 3 Years - Current Price: €700 / $625.
Samsung - Software Updates: Unknown / Security fixes: Monthly fixes promised (Depending on handset)
Huawei 'Honor' handsets - starting with Honor 8 - Software Updates: 2 Years / Security fixes: 2 Years (link) Current Price: €300 / $280. Note: 'Major updates at least once every three months.'
Perhaps there will be some announcements from Google / OEMs / Chipset manufacturers at this year's CES starting next week.

Posting to follow... Call me a Negative Nelly here, but until OEMs can prove that they will actually stand behind a 18/24 month update policy, except for Nexus/Pixel devices, I'm not buying it. Huawei has a rather spotty track record with updates, as does Samsung (although they improved a lot recently with their higher-end models).
That said, don't count out the ZTE Axon line just yet, they haven't came right out and said 2 years support (although they do have a 2 year warranty standard), but more along the lines of they want to step into the Nexus lines shoes in the $300-$400 price range, and have implied that meant updates, but NOT the same developer support, as Google gives the Nexus line... I will admit that I am surprised to see my son's Axon 7 get an update the first week of every month since he got it, granted that's only 2 updates so far and no Nougat yet.
Don't forget that in 2012 and 2014, Google tried to get OEMs to agree to a 18-24 month update policy, most OEMs accepted in 2012 and failed, few agreed in 2014 other than in principle to improve update time lines. In terms of upgrades/updates, Android is a fragmented mess... just the way it is.

The Huawei Honor 8 was apparently selling for $250 during Black Friday; so around $50 more than the price of a Moto G 4th Gen, but with some assurance of updates. The downside is that due to their UI (and customisation), that handset is not getting Nougat until February 2017.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...r-8-will-receive-nougat-emui-5-february-2017/​

It's perhaps worth contemplating that the nexus of Moto G was during a time when Google was an OEM - by owning Motorola Mobility. That time is here again, now that Google are manufacturing (more or less) it's own handsets. Could we see a $200 Pixel variant with 24 Months of software support this year? Would it have to be Daydream VR compatible? Maybe it's possible with some future revision of the Snapdragon 6XX chipset.

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It's perhaps worth contemplating that the nexus of Moto G was during a time when Google was an OEM - by owning Motorola Mobility. That time is here again, now that Google are manufacturing (more or less) it's own handsets. Could we see a $200 Pixel variant with 24 Months of software support this year? Would it have to be Daydream VR compatible? Maybe it's possible with some future revision of the Snapdragon 6XX chipset.
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Google is manufacturing handsets?!?! I was pretty sure these were HTC (or whatever OEM) with an agreement that the OEM's brand would be on the device?
I like your thinking though, even if it's only a dream...

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Google is manufacturing handsets?!?! I was pretty sure these were HTC (or whatever OEM) with an agreement that the OEM's brand would be on the device?
I like your thinking though, even if it's only a dream...
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Google are clearly trying to present themselves as an OEM (no mention of HTC during Pixel phone launch show) and they are actively exercising ever greater control of what is being produced, not to mention still owning patents (maybe irrelevant) from the Motorola Mobility acquisition. It just seems to me that the pieces are in place to see a true spiritual successor to the Moto G - if Google really wanted such a thing to happen.
"There is no HTC branding because this is a Google phone that brings together premium hardware by multiple partners to serve a best in class software experience for users," said a company spokesman.
https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/google-pixel-htc-xl-phone-cold-comfort-nexus-silent-partner​

The Huawei 'Honor 6X' has been revealed and conveys a very questionable attitude towards updates.
During the phone's presentation at CES 2017 in Las Vegas, Honor revealed that it's planning to update the new smartphone to Android 7.0 Nougat in the second quarter of the year. This means as soon as April, and as late as June 2017.
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Will this lax attitude be how they apply their '24 month update promise' to their more expensive handsets?

lost101 said:
The Huawei 'Honor 6X' has been revealed and conveys a very questionable attitude towards updates.
Will this lax attitude be how they apply their '24 month update promise' to their more expensive handsets?
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Android Police has little faith in Huawei... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7lMp3TZfg

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Android Police has little faith in Huawei... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl7lMp3TZfg
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It's good to see AP tell it how it is. Many of the other reviews gloss over the situation. I was seriously considering a 'Honor' phone as my next handset, but now I'm really cautious about them.

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It's good to see AP tell it how it is. Many of the other reviews gloss over the situation. I was seriously considering a 'Honor' phone as my next handset, but now I'm really cautious about them.
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Yeah, you would most likely hate the interface anyway emui is like a cross between LG and Apple interface... My son had a HAM2 and doesn't mod or change anything, within 15 minutes he was discovering Nova Launcher and SwiftKey. When he was looking for a new phone a couple months ago he looked at the Honor 5x and the specs looked good until he asked if it had that "emui thing" like his old one and when I said yes, he just said no.
From what we have seen of Huawei, great hardware for the money but terrible software, bad enough to ruin the whole user experience for the average user (and as a stock Android fan, it frustrated me when I had to help him too).

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Yeah, you would most likely hate the interface anyway emui is like a cross between LG and Apple interface... My son had a HAM2 and doesn't mod or change anything, within 15 minutes he was discovering Nova Launcher and SwiftKey. When he was looking for a new phone a couple months ago he looked at the Honor 5x and the specs looked good until he asked if it had that "emui thing" like his old one and when I said yes, he just said no.
From what we have seen of Huawei, great hardware for the money but terrible software, bad enough to ruin the whole user experience for the average user (and as a stock Android fan, it frustrated me when I had to help him too).
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At this point I was prepared to 'gut' the UI to reduce irritation and improve performance. But I suppose it's not unfair to assume if a phone has a sloppy UI, it's going to have sloppy software support also.

Google is expanding its “Android One” program for low-cost smartphones to the U.S in coming months, promising phone makers major new promotional dollars if they play by its rules, say three people briefed on the plan. *
The first phone to launch in the U.S. with Google’s Android One seal of approval, backed by an ad campaign funded by Google, is expected before the middle of the year. It will be made by a phone manufacturer whose identity couldn’t be learned. It will be different from other Android phones because it will guarantee timely software updates, including security updates, for two years from sale date, one of the people said. That’s something Android often fails to do, unlike Apple. The phone is expected to be priced in the $200-$300 price range, said two of the people.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/5om7lg/googles_new_stab_at_boosting_android_brand_in_us/​

This is what I have been waiting for. A budget version of the Google Pixel (with Daydream VR support *fingers crossed*)
Finally, our source has indicated to us that Google is internally testing a “few” prototypes of a device they referred to as “Pixel 2B”, which would purportedly be released either “alongside or shortly after Pixel 2”. This phone would bring with it a lower-price point and less powerful hardware, and would be “aimed at different markets,” our source says. Google’s end goal is to bring the “Google experience and the Google Phone to emerging markets,” which is something the company definitely has shown a passion for in the past.
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https://9to5google.com/2017/01/26/s...amera-chipset-waterproof-budget-price-details​

"realistic" Kris here... I remember that a small bunch of us were hanging on waiting for a L update for the Moto Atrix HD. The moto web site actually said we were supposed to get it. Of course it never happened. I noticed with amusement that (it looked like) everybody but the USA got 6.0.1 for the Moto G3. I always assumed that 6.0.1 was more trouble that it was worth so didn't mind. I have been away from flashing custom ROMs for at least 9 months so was a bit surprised to find a group here waiting for N on the Moto G3. Never happen. Not financially useful for them. Can't sell new phones if they do. They only ever lose just a few folks from buying a phone. 95% just don't care - wouldn't know what an update was.
Phones like the Pixel are expensive and can serve as a testbed for releases/fixes. It's a win/win for google.
Just my 2 cents. Getting off soapbox. (just flashed Legacy 0207)

i bought new Lenovo mobile again
have to see what happens to it its still stuck at Nov security patch with Marshmallow on top
hmm.. lenovo p2 is my new mobile, god knows about its updates .......

Moto g3 will stay on Marshmallow...Moto India confirmed...

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Moto g3 will stay on Marshmallow...Moto India confirmed...
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This has been official news since October... http://blog.motorola.com/2016/10/04...d-7-0-is-coming-to-your-favorite-moto-phones/

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This has been official news since October... http://blog.motorola.com/2016/10/04...d-7-0-is-coming-to-your-favorite-moto-phones/
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In Motorola's portal Moto said that Moto E3 power will stay in marshmallow but they announced nothing like this for osprey...in osprey it is said that the device got marshmallow update...no such thing like Moto E3 power...it is also thought Motorola will announce a second list...but now the news is confirmed

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In Motorola's portal Moto said that Moto E3 power will stay in marshmallow but they announced nothing like this for osprey...in osprey it is said that the device got marshmallow update...no such thing like Moto E3 power...it is also thought Motorola will announce a second list...but now the news is confirmed
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No offense, but I never heard any rumors that Moto might announce a second list... The list hasn't changed, the exception was made for the E3P because it's release date was so close to this list, late Sept if I recall correctly, and the list was announced Oct, so everyone assumed it would get Nougat but they were wrong, it was a logical exception. In other words, the original list is still correct for the devices that were available at the time.

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No offense, but I never heard any rumors that Moto might announce a second list... The list hasn't changed, the exception was made for the E3P because it's release date was so close to this list, late Sept if I recall correctly, and the list was announced Oct, so everyone assumed it would Nougat but they were wrong, it was a logical exception. In other words, the original list is still correct for the devices that were available at the time.
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Okay...then I am extremely sorry for my post...

Has Huawei abandoned Honor 7?

The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.

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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.

Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.

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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.

not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...

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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.

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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.

I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.

If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.

android N is nothing diff to android 6

eddor1614 said:
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?

ffxmadman said:
Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.

eddor1614 said:
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....

BigMango said:
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...

buongu said:
I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.

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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!

Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho

yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.

Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.