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Hello, I'm new to this stuff, but does anybody know what version of the V20 (TMo, Sprint, 996, etc) bands match Project-Fi's bands the closest? I have a T-Mo V2 currently on Fi but it sometimes doesn't ring when I receive phone calls. I'm guessing it is because it is missing a band or something (or maybe it's just a defective phone) and that's why the call doesn't go through.
Thanks in advance!
My understanding for it to work properly you need the pixel or the nexus 6 or might also include the nexus 5. Any other phone you will run in to issues as they say only the T-Mobile band will work. Might be why you are having issues with your lg phone.
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Thanks for the quick response. I know it isn't "officially" supported by Fi. I'm just trying to get as many bands as possible to work with. I understand I won't have quite as good of a signal as I would if I had a Pixel but I can't stand the huge bezels and smaller screen. I'm wondering if I might have better luck with the 996 instead of the TMo version.
Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
Has anyone got T-Mobile to run on the Verizon v20...I can get text and call to work together all day ,or 4g works all day with out the others.If I get all 3 working at once it keeps cutting off network then comes back on..I've did the APN,and network.Just wondering if it has been done...
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Thanks for the very in-depth post. I really appreciate your time and effort. I never even thought about the Sprint version until you said that. Will all those bands be active without unlocking the (Sprint) phone? If so, then that is the phone I'll get.
Thanks again for all the info!
Patrick
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Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
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preilly44 said:
Thanks for the very in-depth post. I really appreciate your time and effort. I never even thought about the Sprint version until you said that. Will all those bands be active without unlocking the (Sprint) phone? If so, then that is the phone I'll get.
Thanks again for all the info!
Patrick
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Well unlocking doesn't actually unlock any bands. It just allows use on other carriers. These bands are always available for use. I don't know Sprint's unlocking policy, since I'm on T-Mobile, but check it out. It might be pre-unlocked like Verizon phones.
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Has anyone got T-Mobile to run on the Verizon v20...I can get text and call to work together all day ,or 4g works all day with out the others.If I get all 3 working at once it keeps cutting off network then comes back on..I've did the APN,and network.Just wondering if it has been done...
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The VS995 supports all the GSM (2G) frequencies that T-Mobile uses, although it doesn't support as many as the T-Mobile variant, so Canadian coverage might be weird with traditional calls and texts.
It's also missing B4 UMTS, which is a pretty important one. If you're in an area without 2G but with HSPA+, you could have issues. It also doesn't support LTE B12, T-Mobile's low frequency band. This is important to have in cities.
I don't have 12 here...usually 2/4
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Like I said all works just not together
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I don't have 12 here...usually 2/4
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Like I said all works just not together
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I'm thinking that's probably not a T-Mobile thing then. All stock messaging? Are your APNs right?
Yes sir all good..that's what is strange..I have moto z force running on T-Mobile no issue
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Yes sir all good..that's what is strange..I have moto z force running on T-Mobile no issue
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Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe a replacement phone? It might be worth it just to get the V20 from T-Mobile. I know it's more expensive, but it'll probably work.
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Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe a replacement phone? It might be worth it just to get the V20 from T-Mobile. I know it's more expensive, but it'll probably work.
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I might just send back and get another...Bad thing is it came with a scratch so I was sending back anyway...A scratch over a inch long with a gap in the middle and it looks deep to were it messes with the colors on the screen...My nephew has a lg that has same issue..This is one nice phone though
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I might just send back and get another...Bad thing is it came with a scratch so I was sending back anyway...A scratch over a inch long with a gap in the middle and it looks deep to were it messes with the colors on the screen...My nephew has a lg that has same issue..This is one nice phone though
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It is a great phone. I just wish it was more consistent.
My first V20 had severe noise reduction on everything, and weird bumps on the transition from the screen glass to the plastic bezels. One side would be more pronounced than the other. My replacement is better in noise reduction, but it still has those uneven transitions.
My mom's V20 has almost no weird transition, but it does have some noise reduction issues. This phone is weird to say the least
So I just got a Sprint ls997 and when I take the Project-Fi sim card out of my working T-Mo v20 and put it in the Sprint V20 it just shows the invalid sim card icon in the upper right corner (nothing in notifications though). Does that mean I need to unlock the Sprint version of the phone? If so, why didn't I have to unlock the T-Mo version? I looked quickly and couldn't find any websites that would unlock the Sprint V20.
Thanks in advance!
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Well I'm pretty sure Fi uses Sprint and T-Mobile at the same time. Since Sprint is a CDMA network, a T-Mobile phone isn't going to be able to use it, except for VoLTE, and even then probably not.
I don't know too much info about WCDMA (TMO) and CDMA (Sprint) band usage by the two carriers, so I can't give too much info there.
T-Mobile uses LTE bands 1(?), 2/4, 4/66, 12 (there's weird frequency stuff where B4 matches B2 on one of its frequencies. 4 and 66 use the same frequency range). Sprint uses 25, 26, 41 (don't ask, I have no idea, since VZ and ATT use 2,4,13 and 2,4,17 respectively, and 17 is a subset of 12).
The T-Mobile V20 supports 1,2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,20 (some of these aren't mentioned by the FCC because they weren't tested, and LG's site doesn't mention them. T-Mobile has the full list, except for 17, but that's just 12 like I said earlier). WCDMA-wise, it supports I, II, IV, V. It has no CDMA support nor Sprint LTE support.
Sprint's variant supports LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12/17, 25, 26, 41. It also happens to support all the WCDMA bands the T-Mobile variant does, plus the 900MHz frequency.
The US996 is the same story as the LS997, but with the addition of B13 and B20, minus B25 and B41. I can't find info, but I assume the WCDMA bands are the same.
Strangely enough, the LS997 has more current functionality in the US than the US996. I recommend you go for that. It is $793 instead of $770 like the TMO, but that's $7 less than the US996, and it'll work fine on T-Mobile, ATT (if you roam) and Sprint. Roaming on Verizon will be alright in most places, but the lack of VZ's low frequency band (13), it might have trouble in rural areas. Luckily, you probably won't have to worry about Verizon compatibility (and it probably supports it without mentioning it anyway).
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So I just got a Sprint ls997 and when I take the Project-Fi sim card out of my working T-Mo v20 and put it in the Sprint V20 it just shows the invalid sim card icon in the upper right corner (nothing in notifications though). Does that mean I need to unlock the Sprint version of the phone? If so, why didn't I have to unlock the T-Mo version? I looked quickly and couldn't find any websites that would unlock the Sprint V20.
Thanks in advance!
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The Sprint phone should be unlocked I think, but if it isn't, they will unlock it for you if you call. Any device made after February 2015 is like that for Sprint.
You're rebooting when you put the SIM In right?
Thanks, I called Sprint and they said it was still tied to the previous owners account. The previous owner said they paid it off and removed it from their account on 12/22 so they called and requested to have it unlocked. Sprint said it would take 3-5 business days after they did paid it off and it would automatically be unlocked. I'm not sure I believe that but we'll see in a couple days.
Yes, the battery was out when I installed the sim card so it was rebooted.
Thanks for all your help and advice!
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The Sprint phone should be unlocked I think, but if it isn't, they will unlock it for you if you call. Any device made after February 2015 is like that for Sprint.
You're rebooting when you put the SIM In right?
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Just a quick update, according to Sprint, the phone now should be unlocked. Is there a way on the phone I can tell if it is unlocked? When I put a sim card in from another carrier I'm getting the icon at the top of the screen of a sim card with an ! in it. When I try to make a phone call it does not go through. It also doesn't show my phone number or any other info related to the sim card on the phone's info screen.
Any advice?
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Thanks, I called Sprint and they said it was still tied to the previous owners account. The previous owner said they paid it off and removed it from their account on 12/22 so they called and requested to have it unlocked. Sprint said it would take 3-5 business days after they did paid it off and it would automatically be unlocked. I'm not sure I believe that but we'll see in a couple days.
Yes, the battery was out when I installed the sim card so it was rebooted.
Thanks for all your help and advice!
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Just a quick update, according to Sprint, the phone now should be unlocked. Is there a way on the phone I can tell if it is unlocked? When I put a sim card in from another carrier I'm getting the icon at the top of the screen of a sim card with an ! in it. When I try to make a phone call it does not go through. It also doesn't show my phone number or any other info related to the sim card on the phone's info screen.
Any advice?
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You should try rebooting if you haven't.
Thanks, I should have said in the last post that I've tried battery pulls and even a factory reset.
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You should try rebooting if you haven't.
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Thanks, I should have said in the last post that I've tried battery pulls and even a factory reset.
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Hmm. Maybe call Sprint again. It sounds like the unlock may not have been processed.
I have spent the better part of an hour searching for a specific answer to these questions. So far, I have found two sources that claim band 12 works on Tmo. However I have only seen one review on Amazon from a couple weeks back that claim the phone does not support volte on Tmo. If it doesn't, that's a deal breaker for me. Can anyone, with the latest update, confirm or deny whether B12 and VOLTE on Tmo is working or not. Thanks very much in advance.
At *#*#4636#*#* testing menu there is band selector for United States and Japan
For sure at Tmo US if there is certification for this handset, VoLTE should be supported
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I have spent the better part of an hour searching for a specific answer to these questions. So far, I have found two sources that claim band 12 works on Tmo. However I have only seen one review on Amazon from a couple weeks back that claim the phone does not support volte on Tmo. If it doesn't, that's a deal breaker for me. Can anyone, with the latest update, confirm or deny whether B12 and VOLTE on Tmo is working or not. Thanks very much in advance.
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To the best of my knowledge band 12 works. Multiple people here have even posted screenshots with the phone operating on Band 12. Sadly I live in the Chicago area and we are the the last major city to get Band 12. So I cannot personally verify it since it isn't up and running here yet. As for VoLTE that is a two way street. Lately Sony has been working with various providers to get it enabled. Basically it's all good on their end to a degree but for a phone to operate on VoLTE the carrier provider (in this case Tmo) must also flip a switch on their end as well. So in the end yes it probably can but no clue if we will ever get it here in the states. The following is to a link that explains the current situation. http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/11/30/sony-to-add-volte-support-to-xperia-x-concept-shortly/
P.S. Side note the phone info does have a switch for enabling VoLTE provisioning. However for now it does nothing (simply switches back to default radio when exiting the screen).
Oddly enough the switch got turned on for Band 12 in the Chicago area today. And yes it works and it works on UK firmware too.
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Oddly enough the switch got turned on for Band 12 in the Chicago area today. And yes it works and it works on UK firmware too.
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If you could answer couple of questions that would make things easier for me to get this phone.
1) So when your phone is on band 12 and you make a call, does it stay on that band or goes to band 4?
2) VoLTE is working properly?
3) Any word about having WiFi calling available?
Band 12 works fine. No volte. Other than that it's been flawless on tmobile!
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Band 12 works fine. No volte. Other than that it's been flawless on tmobile!
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I didn't know that it is possible to make a call on Band 12 when phone doesn't support VoLTE.
Does the Unlocked V35 include band 71 for t-mobile? I have done a search and the results are not conclusive. I know--or think--it is enabled for T-mobile wifi calling. But I do not know much else.
Yes, it does have band 71 (600Mhz).
In the dialer put in (277634#*#). It should show the band 71.
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Yes, it does have band 71 (600Mhz).
In the dialer put in (277634#*#). It should show the band 71.
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Thanks very much. I am trying to decide between the V35 (unlocked) and V40. This info helps.
The phone is compatible, however the carrier may not allow it.
T mobile for example only allows band 71, wifi calling and volte on their phones.
In other words: in addition to the right hardware support you need to have the right modem software and rom
I am using unlocked V35 on T-Mobile and it has Band 71, Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE. Works well for me.
Has anyone know of a way to see what bands are enabled and or a way to disable some bands?
I use a signal booster when in bfe. And some times phone wants to switch to bands booster don't suport. Like 30 and 66 .
xela19115 said:
I am using unlocked V35 on T-Mobile and it has Band 71, Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE. Works well for me.
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Do you mean you're using a carrier unlock version (LMV350AWM) on TMOB?
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Do you mean you're using a carrier unlock version (LMV350AWM) on TMOB?
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No. I have LM-V350ULM phone, unlocked version.
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Do you happen to know whether the carrier unlocked LMV350AWM will work with either a Project Fi or T-Mobile? I’ve search quite a bit but no seems to verify that it can.
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Do you happen to know whether the carrier unlocked LMV350AWM will work with either a Project Fi or T-Mobile? I’ve search quite a bit but no seems to verify that it can.
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I'm not certain but I've read on XDA that if you have an unlocked LMV350AWM, then you can flash the same code that runs on a LMV350ULM and using on T-Mobile or Google Fi.
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I am using unlocked V35 on T-Mobile and it has Band 71, Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE. Works well for me.
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Sorry to dig this up but how do you know for certain that you are able to use band 71? Have you downloaded a 3rd party and can see a band 71 signal with your v35?
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I'm not certain but I've read on XDA that if you have an unlocked LMV350AWM, then you can flash the same code that runs on a LMV350ULM and using on T-Mobile or Google Fi.
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Sorry to dig this up but how do you know for certain that you are able to use band 71? Have you downloaded a 3rd party and can see a band 71 signal with your v35?
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I am using unlocked V35 on T-Mobile and it has Band 71, Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE. Works well for me.
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Please show screenshot of LTE Discovery with T-Mobile LTE band 71.
eugenile said:
Sorry to dig this up but how do you know for certain that you are able to use band 71? Have you downloaded a 3rd party and can see a band 71 signal with your v35?
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Please show screenshot of LTE Discovery with T-Mobile LTE band 71.
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All of the bands on my ULM phone are enabled, screenshots are included. Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE works. I cannot show you a screenshot from LTE Discovery of Band 71, since it is not enabled in the Philadelphia metro area, yet. A couple of months ago, I did see it pop up on my phone when I was traveling through the Miami metro area.
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I am using unlocked V35 on T-Mobile and it has Band 71, Wi-Fi Calling and VoLTE. Works well for me.
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I bought an AT&T unlocked v35 and am wondering how to turn on Wi-Fi Calling. Did you have to do any steps to get your phone to work well on TMobile?
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I bought an AT&T unlocked v35 and am wondering how to turn on Wi-Fi Calling. Did you have to do any steps to get your phone to work well on TMobile?
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I don't know how to do it on the LMV350AWM. I have a LMV350ULM unlocked US version.
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I bought an AT&T unlocked v35 and am wondering how to turn on Wi-Fi Calling. Did you have to do any steps to get your phone to work well on TMobile?
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The later builds of the v350 awm firmware seem to work with tmobile WiFi calling and early ones, no. The certain fix is to flash your awm with ulm firmware and wifi calling works.
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Yes, it does have band 71 (600Mhz).
In the dialer put in (277634#*#). It should show the band 71.
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That doesnt work for me for some reason. Is there another code? I'm having an issue where calls are not coming through. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, I can always dial out though. Any ideas?
I have a at&t LM-V350AWM
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That doesnt work for me for some reason. Is there another code? I'm having an issue where calls are not coming through. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, I can always dial out though. Any ideas?
I have a at&t LG-V350AWM
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You have to use an LG dialer, not the Google's dialer.
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You have to use an LG dialer, not the Google's dialer.
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Thanks, do you know where I can find it? I go to default apps and only have one option and cant change it
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Thanks, do you know where I can find it? I go to default apps and only have one option and cant change it
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I get connection problem or bad mmi code when trying to use that code. I think i am using lg dialer not sure though. I download google phone from app store and that looks different.
Im planning to buy S10+ G9750 Model Number It's same? like G975F or which are good?
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Im planning to buy S10+ G9750 Model Number It's same? like G975F or which are good?
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IMHO the SM-G9750 (Hong Kong) is the best variant. Why? A number of reasons. There's very little Bloatware, works on all CDMA and GSM Networks, has Dual SIM's, Bootloader Unlocked and most importantly a Snapdragon SoC.
Mine is working great on US T- mobile out of the box. I have VoLTE, wifi calling and data speeds are great. Nice to actually have the best phone on the planet for once. Looking forward to root and adblocking!
I received the S10+ 128gb SM9750 from hong kong since last thursday. I couldnt be happier.
I plan to upgrade to 1TB sometime in April when the prices go down.
Best SoC, faster updates and a great network coverage.
If you have any questions, ask away.
Work Hong Kong version on Germany?
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to Europe?
Where did you bought it? Is it delivrable to Europe?
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Mine is working great on US T- mobile out of the box. I have VoLTE, wifi calling and data speeds are great. Nice to actually have the best phone on the planet for once. Looking forward to root and adblocking!
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T-Mobile's CSC Code is TMB, the Hong Kong (SM-G9750) Active and Available CSC Code is TGY. This is the first time I've seen VoLTE and Wifi Calling working on a US Carrier's Network without changing the Hong Kong TGY CSC Code. How did you accomplish this?
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T-Mobile's CSC Code is TMB, the Hong Kong (SM-G9750) Active and Available CSC Code is TGY. This is the first time I've seen VoLTE and Wifi Calling working on a US Carrier's Network without changing the Hong Kong TGY CSC Code. How did you accomplish this?
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I just put in the SIM card from my T-Mobile branded Galaxy S7. Apparently US carrier firmware is embedded and installed automatically depending on the SIM card. Pretty neat. My Samsung Pay is still the HK version but works fine. I'm missing tmo video calling, real time texting and advanced messaging though. Also phone does not support band 71.
where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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Mine is working great on US T- mobile out of the box. I have VoLTE, wifi calling and data speeds are great. Nice to actually have the best phone on the planet for once. Looking forward to root and adblocking!
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where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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VoLTE and wifi calling on TMo work great, but I've found the phone is not configured for carrier aggregation, which negatively affects download speeds. Oddly enough, upload speeds are generally great. I got the the phone on eBay from seller "never-msrp"
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VoLTE and wifi calling on TMo work great, but I've found the phone is not configured for carrier aggregation, which negatively affects download speeds. Oddly enough, upload speeds are generally great. I got the the phone on eBay from seller "never-msrp"
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Thanks a ton. That helped a lot.I am currently using unlocked S10 plus G975U1 but no volte and wifi calling for tmo(bought from best buy).How bad is the download speed?Does Samsung pay work in US?
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Thanks a ton. That helped a lot.I am currently using unlocked S10 plus G975U1 but no volte and wifi calling for tmo(bought from best buy).How bad is the download speed?Does Samsung pay work in US?
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As an example, from home my S7 (with CA) generally downloads @ ~75 Mbps, and the S10+ is around 35. Samsung pay works fine but is Hong Kong version (Chinese ads etc.) Band 71 (600 MHz) is generally used in rural areas but is likely to become more important in cities in the next few years.
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As an example, from home my S7 (with CA) generally downloads @ ~75 Mbps, and the S10+ is around 35. Samsung pay works fine but is Hong Kong version (Chinese ads etc.) Band 71 (600 MHz) is generally used in rural areas but is likely to become more important in cities in the next few years.
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Thank you.Could you share a screenshot showing VOLTE and WIFI calling icon on the notification bar?I hope I am not bothering you.Planning to order 2 G9750 tomorrow for me and my wife.Thank you.
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Thank you.Could you share a screenshot showing VOLTE and WIFI calling icon on the notification bar?I hope I am not bothering you.Planning to order 2 G9750 tomorrow for me and my wife.Thank you.
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Wifi calling is in dialer menu
floyddroyd said:
As an example, from home my S7 (with CA) generally downloads @ ~75 Mbps, and the S10+ is around 35. Samsung pay works fine but is Hong Kong version (Chinese ads etc.) Band 71 (600 MHz) is generally used in rural areas but is likely to become more important in cities in the next few years.
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35Mbps is still quite fast. I wonder if that is with 2x CA. I have Exynos with limited CA and it ranges between 15 to 30 Mbps om Tmobile
VICosPhi said:
35Mbps is still quite fast. I wonder if that is with 2x CA. I have Exynos with limited CA and it ranges between 15 to 30 Mbps om Tmobile
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I checked from the service menu (*#0011#) while doing a speed test and it's definitely not doing CA. I've watched it happen from there on my S7.
What's annoying is that it initially spikes to ~55 and then backs down steadily, like it's being throttled, or waiting for another tower to pick up the slack or something. Upload is the opposite, it starts slow and steadily climbs, almost always to a higher number than the download.
I'm in Manhattan and mostly have excellent coverage except for the 1928 building I work in that's built like a brick ****house. Wifi and HD calling are a must there. The signal repeaters are always on the fritz in my part of the building.
floyddroyd said:
I checked from the service menu (*#0011#) while doing a speed test and it's definitely not doing CA. I've watched it happen from there on my S7.
What's annoying is that it initially spikes to ~55 and then backs down steadily, like it's being throttled, or waiting for another tower to pick up the slack or something. Upload is the opposite, it starts slow and steadily climbs, almost always to a higher number than the download.
I'm in Manhattan and mostly have excellent coverage except for the 1928 building I work in that's built like a brick ****house. Wifi and HD calling are a must there. The signal repeaters are always on the fritz in my part of the building.
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Thanks, sounds like you have really good bandwidth in band 4 and 12
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floyddroyd said:
Wifi calling is in dialer menu
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Thank you brother.Your answers helped me to made a decision.I already ordered 2 today and going to sell my US unlocked S10+.BTW do you have in built call recording while making a call?That's a common feature present in most Asian market phones especially in China and Hongkong.Have a nice day.
Subham85 said:
Thank you brother.Your answers helped me to made a decision.I already ordered 2 today and going to sell my US unlocked S10+.BTW do you have in built call recording while making a call?That's a common feature present in most Asian market phones especially in China and Hongkong.Have a nice day.
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No call recording option. Also, the camera shutter sound can't be turned off because of HK upskirt laws. But if you put the phone on silent you won't hear it. Also in order to get the VoLTE and wifi calling status bar icons you need to pull down the status bar, hit the three dots and select button order. These features are apparently installed after you put the sim in. I didn't notice the wifi calling one before, but it's there. Enjoy your phones, they are truly amazing
Exynos
Subham85 said:
where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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where did you buy from?I also would like to buy HK variant S10 plus G9750 with SD855 and dual sim.But I heard it is missing band 71. For me VOLTE and WIFI calling is very important.Please advise.Thanks
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That would be the exynos model your after then it has volte ,wifi calling out of the box...plus it has a much better single core than the sd 855 and faster updates seems to be more battery friendly to as i also get 8-9 hours sot... exynos is allot more powerful ...qualcomm payout more cash to make the sd 855 sound more better
Looking at eBay for the OnePlus 8 Pro has led me to a few listings with the title having "iN 2020"
Is this a specific region designation? Does it differ from the USA model at all?
If anyone has any additional information, that'd be great. Thank you!
AhsanU said:
Looking at eBay for the OnePlus 8 Pro has led me to a few listings with the title having "iN 2020"
Is this a specific region designation? Does it differ from the USA model at all?
If anyone has any additional information, that'd be great. Thank you!
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IN2020 refers to the International one, that's the one I got from OP to the US. It also means it's unlocked.
I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
Poloasis said:
IN2020 refers to the International one, that's the one I got from OP to the US. It also means it's unlocked.
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Ldbrown01 said:
I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
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Questions to you guys.
Does that version work with dual Sim?
Did you get the 256Gb green version?
How is it working for you guys in USA?
Ldbrown01 said:
I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
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Ditto here. I'm not sure what IN2020 is.
Pr20 said:
Questions to you guys.
Does that version work with dual Sim?
Did you get the 256Gb green version?
How is it working for you guys in USA?
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It is the 256Gb glossy back. So far I have seen no defects. It has been working good for me. I am coming from the 7 pro and love this device!
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
I just received this model today and the bootloader unlock is greyed out
EDIT: Fixed
bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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What kinds of speeds are you getting? I am in same boat and I have "5g" but it seems like my speeds aren't all that much faster than 4g
I just received my OnePlus 8pro IN2020 no service
bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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I just received my in2020 and it will not read my TMobile sim is there something I have to do for it too read how did you get yours to work
IN2020 denotes the region which in this case means it is made for the Chinese market. You may find certain bands are missing so may not work correctly on some carriers.
tmac7728 said:
I just received my in2020 and it will not read my TMobile sim is there something I have to do for it too read how did you get yours to work
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Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
False alarm
kevkid said:
Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
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Ok false alarm I had to do the software update first
bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
See the screenshots below for comparison:
kevkid said:
Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
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Same for you ^
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tmac7728 said:
Ok false alarm I had to do the software update first
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And you ^^
Whoareyou said:
That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
See the screenshots below for comparison:
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Thank you for this! So these towers can't emit a 5g signal. Do you know why?
Along with the differences, can anyone on TMobile confirm this model works with dual Sims? Wanted to get it on eBay but US versions arent active yet, so need international version as long as 5g works on dual SIM.
Whoareyou said:
That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
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Can you send to me modem log when phone shows LTE+NR same time and NR Connected?
OnePlus 8 Pro IN2020 China model support only n41 5G band used in USA. I try list all supported combos used in TMUS: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns . This model example doesn't support widely used n71 low band 5G.
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Thank you for this! So these towers can't emit a 5g signal. Do you know why?
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T-Mobile is using the upper later indicator (a cell site that supports NR ENDC capability) to show the 5G signal icon in your status bar, not actual NR connectivity. So when you see the 5G indicator, it just means you're connected to a site and band that supports aggregating LTE+NR (ENDC), not that you're necessarily connected to NR.
So even if your phone does not support any T-Mobile 5G NR bands, it will still show 5G in the status bar if the cell site you're connected to supports aggregating LTE and NR together. T-Mobile even has cell sites broadcasting the upper later indicator with no 5G NR signal nearby, so even phones with T-Mobile NR bands will show the 5G icon a lot of the time without an actual NR signal.
The IN2020 does not support T-Mobile N71 NR.
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olkitu said:
Can you send to me modem log when phone shows LTE+NR same time and NR Connected?
OnePlus 8 Pro IN2020 China model support only n41 5G band used in USA. I try list all supported combos used in TMUS: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns . This model example doesn't support widely used n71 low band 5G.
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Those screenshots were taken by me on an HD1925, not the IN2020.
IN2020 this is the network straight from oneplus .cn
Network and connectivity
LTE
4×4 MIMO, support high-order modulation, up to downlink Cat18 / uplink Cat13 (1.2Gbps / 150Mbps), requires operator network support
Frequency band
GSM：GSM850、GSM900、GSM1800、GSM1900
WCDMA：B1、B2、B4、B5、B8、B9、B19
CDMA: BC0
LTE-FDD：B1、2、3、4、5、7、8、12、17、18、19、20、26
LTE-TDD ： B34、38、39、40、41
5G ： n1 n3 n41 n78 n79
MIMO ： LTE ： B1、3、41 ； NR ： n1 、 n3 、 n41 、 n78 、 n79
Note: The actual network and frequency band usage depends on the local operator's network deployment, n1, n3 must be supported by software upgrade after the operator releases
WLAN
2×2 MIMO dual antenna, support 2.4G / 5G, support Wi-Fi 6, support WiFi 802.11 a / b / g / n / ac / ax
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 5.1，支持 aptX & aptX HD & LDAC & AAC & SBC
NFC
stand by
GPS
GPS (Dual-band L1 + L5), GLONASS, Galileo (Dual-band E1 + E5a), Beidou Navigation, A-GPS