It would be great to see a MotoMod that essentially would allow the device to run the Infotainment systems. Or am I the only fool that would get this?
I mean, so far besides the Incipio charging mod, I have been dissatisfied with Lenovo's modular approach. I think the mods are cool, but seeing the cost of the phone is 750+ adding mods upwards of $300 is a reach. This is obviously just my opinion, maybe there are some that find the mods useful for the price, I would like to know the general consensus of Moto Z owners?
Id buy a head unit that this is the faceplate of...or had a larger screen and a separate dock for the phone, as long as it had decent specs for audio output and was under say 150 if the phone was the faceplate, and under 300 with a separate display.
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Aside from some quality control issues, Asus has done a lot right with the Transformer. Great price, functionality, and the incredible dock.
So with talk of the Transformer 2, what do you think the chances are the dock will work with the new version? I think pretty good, even if there is a new dock that is "better", would be great if they gave legacy support to existing dock owners.
I generally would wait to buy if I know something "better" is around the corner, but i am throughly enjoying my Transformer right now. Say I can get the new version for $400, sell mine for $200 or even just hand it down. I am hopeful!!!!
i read a Taiwanese article saying the new transformer will be thinner and lighter, given the design of the hinge on the current dock, I think the possibility that it'd be compatible is quite low.
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i read a Taiwanese article saying the new transformer will be thinner and lighter, given the design of the hinge on the current dock, I think the possibility that it'd be compatible is quite low.
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I tend to agree though I suppose there's also the possibility that Asus could produce an adaptor that clips around the botton of a TF2 to make it compatible - unlikely though!
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Dave
Asus has stated the dock will be compatible with future models, this simultaneously confirmed compatibility and the fact that another transformer-like tab was on the way.
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Asus has stated the dock will be compatible with future models, this simultaneously confirmed compatibility and the fact that another transformer-like tab was on the way.
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Just a thought but could this not be referring to a 3G version of the tablet...i.e. not TF2 but an exact same version of the tablet but with 3G?
I am still hopeful the TF2 will be compatible tho.
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Asus has stated the dock will be compatible with future models, this simultaneously confirmed compatibility and the fact that another transformer-like tab was on the way.
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I think you are referring to the anandtech review, however Asus has never made that statement themselves. I still think its quite unlikely that they'll be compatible. Tabs are getting thinner and thinner, if the next tf remained this thick its gonna feel ancient.
im going to have to go with it wont be compatible with tf2. considering the fact that most 2nd versions of tablets an phones always seem to go thinner and a redesign. So most likely not. I bought the buyback program from best buy cuz i know i'll trade this one in 6 months to get the next greatest thing
it could be a little thicker on one side to have legacy dock support, or as previously posted they could have a dock adapter. They don't need to make the whole tablet as thick just to fit the dock.
I'm sure that i have read somewhere that the reason the tablet was priced so low was that they were looking to grab market share and bolster the profits with a high profit margin on the keyboard - which seems to fit with the price of the dock.
So to my way of thinking it would not make sense for Asus to include support for their cash cow in the next model. I think they will expect you to buy a second dock to keep the profitability high.
As noted by others - I suspect that there will be reductions to the thickness and bezel which also suggests there will need to be a new dock.
No telling.... we can speculate.
I'm very happy with the size as it is. I had the Tab 10.1 for a shot period, it is thinner and lighter but not to where it outweighs the functionality of the Transformer, IMO.
I sadly would agree with the more to gain from not making it compatible, however I think it's just as likely that they hope to make money by pleasing the crowd and making it compatible as well.
I think trying to guess is just that, guessing. I wouldn't put money on it either way. (Well, logically, if asked to, I would put money on them making it NOT compatible. That way if I win I have money to buy a dock, if not, well I lose the bet but don't have to buy a dock).
The other thing they could do, is make the TF2 slightly thinner (but remain compatible with the existing dock) and create another new tablet which is not dockable, thus giving the consumer a choice - i.e. a tablet/netbook hybrid, or a "pure" tablet.
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Dave
The video information at allthingsd.com/20111019/jonney-shih-video-highlights-from-asiad-video/ makes it look like the tablet will work with the old dock, just based off of the positioning of the locking slots and the charging interface. It looks a little thinner, but not much.
However, the new dock has what looks like the same hinge, albeit on a wedge shaped keyboard dock rather than a flat dock, and aluminum housing like the zenbook seems to replace the molded plastic exterior on both the tablet and the base. They are clearly trying to take away thickness from the combined units by shaving the dock. Can anyone tell if the tablet shape is also shaved down towards the front? (That would make for an awkward flat viewing angle).
Can this be done? I am asking this because I am getting sick of messing with all these tablets none of the 7' ones have optical batteries and it is hard to find one that doesn't weigh like a pound with a huge bezel which is the main reason why I was looking at doing this I feel the tablet would really benefit being light weight. My main question is if I found a decent cellphone with a broken screen for cheap would it be difficult to be able to adapt a 16:9 7' LCD panel and capacitive digitizer to the connector? I'd really love to have a small pocketable 7' tablet that has moddable space for some of the cheaply available cellphone batteries or extended batteries etc..
I was close to getting what I wanted with one tablet but it didn't have USB charging.
you can try on openmoko phone,they are coming with full customization opensource phone so you can modify it.
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Can this be done? I am asking this because I am getting sick of messing with all these tablets none of the 7' ones have optical batteries and it is hard to find one that doesn't weigh like a pound with a huge bezel which is the main reason why I was looking at doing this I feel the tablet would really benefit being light weight. My main question is if I found a decent cellphone with a broken screen for cheap would it be difficult to be able to adapt a 16:9 7' LCD panel and capacitive digitizer to the connector? I'd really love to have a small pocketable 7' tablet that has moddable space for some of the cheaply available cellphone batteries or extended batteries etc..
I was close to getting what I wanted with one tablet but it didn't have USB charging.
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If I read this correct, you want to be able to remove the tablets battery and/or swap it with a cellphone battery? Would it work? Yes. No. I have a 5in. Galaxy Player that has a non-removable battery but I removed it just to see if I could. If you manage to correctly wire everything together you have to consider how to get it in a pocketable shell. Also phones and tablets have different shaped batteries and those batteries have different amperage/voltage. But hey, if you got expendable cash and a little "know how" by all means go for it.
i was talking modding a phone with a broken screen into a tablet by replacing the screen with a 7' lcd and a capacitive digitizer and designing a shell while maintaining the phones ability to use its own optical batteries. I am just trying to get a feel for whether this would he a viable idea.
But do u think a 7 inch is pocketable? Even if its weightless? Lol, i almost dont put my hd2 in my pockets, its hell of a big.
But as ans for ur doubts its possible. Unless u manage to get a proper display. Batt isnt that much prob. U can make packs with several batts, if u know how to.
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Wouldn't one extended battery suffice? and yes a 7' tab is pocketable the main issue that makes these non pocketable is the huge bezels on some of them.
First and foremost you can't wire a different screen or digitizer into the system. The LCD driver is build and configured for that exact display and resolution. A better solution could be to slave a LCD panel using the hdmi and integrate a mouse into the housing to control it.
As for batteries there is a reason they are the way they are. It is easier to integrate it (smaller profile) and it is easier to deal with. You would need a huge battery if you wanted any sort of run time.
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First and foremost you can't wire a different screen or digitizer into the system. The LCD driver is build and configured for that exact display and resolution. A better solution could be to slave a LCD panel using the hdmi and integrate a mouse into the housing to control it.
As for batteries there is a reason they are the way they are. It is easier to integrate it (smaller profile) and it is easier to deal with. You would need a huge battery if you wanted any sort of run time.
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I was going to say, the biggest problem will be the driving hardware for the LCD as almost each lcd has a different one. In order for this to work you would have to find one that works exactly the same way as the screen that you are taking off.
Battery power will also be a problem. The battery for my Captivate is 5.5 Watt Hours which at 3.7-3.8V is 1450-1500mAh. The battery an iPad 2 is 28W which at 3.8V is 7380 mAh. Basically, bigger screen = bigger backlight. Bigger backlight = more power. The most battery two most battery draining items on the phone is the cell receiver and the lcd backlight.
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you can try on openmoko phone,they are coming with full customization opensource phone so you can modify it.
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Wow. I haven't seen a reference to openmoko in a long time.
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What's wrong with having a bezel around the screen? It is actually useful when you hold the tablet cause your fingers won't touch the screen as you're holding it
Get a Samsung galaxy note!
I agree with this guy ^^^^
I had the same trouble as you, but now I have a Galaxy Note, its only 5.3 inches though not 7, but after moving up from an iPhone it feels huge.
Yes on the Galaxy Note -- have one and am pleased
I have the Galaxy Note and recommend it as well.
Give that, my read is you may find an option of using an andriod phone put a mod on it (an example cyanogenmod) and BOOM phablet
I am digging into this as an option as well (welcome comments). I have been trying to get a device from ebay without luck todate (recommendations welcome).
I also ordered a Window N50 (N5Zero) as another option
let me know if this helps
Unless you really need the phone functionality of an actual phone, wouldn't it be much simpler to buy an existing 7" tablet and then mod it to take removable batteries? Some dremel work, bit of plastic plates for support and some spring contacts and you're good to go.
China makes some very nice android tablets. I've got a 9.7 one that runs ICS and the experience on it is at least as good as my old HTC desire minus the phone and 3G. Supports external 3G dongles but dang they're ugly..
For the record, I have a galaxy note.
Just buy a kindle fire, root it, and install ICS. Or just install a launcher like my GF did. For 200 dollars you will not do any better than it, period.
The kindle fire is pretty impressive in terms of RAM and processor power for the price, and while the screen isn't perfect, I found it hard to justify $700 at the time for the Gnote over her free smartphone and $200 dollar KF.
Even in terms of gaming, emulation, etc, I have yet to find anything running significantly slower than on my Gnote, even though the specs are just a 1ghz dual- core processor and 512 mb RAM. I think the playstation emulater ran ever so slightly slower with a 3D game, that's it.
My girl seems to get around 3-4 days on standby with some moderate gaming and a lot of e-reading, etc. I'm sure you can get a generic micro-usb 'external battery' which will charge your device etc. Personally, I just carry around a micro-usb cable and/or charger. Unless you are taking this hypothetical tablet into the woods I can't see how you wouldn't be able to charge it at least for an hour or two somewhere in this day and age.
One of the reasons that you will not find tablets with removable batteries is that the batteries themselves are massive and make up much a pretty sizeable chunk of the phone. I can't state the specifics, but the point is you can't just 'remove the back and plop in a new battery'. What, were you planning to run four galaxy S2 batteries in series or something? How would that be useful? And do you really think that the result you will get will be superior to something you could buy? Have you ever tried soldering onto PCBs before? Do you have the proper equipment to do so?
+1 to the lower-cost tablets coming out of China, etc. I have heard some good things about them.
Summary: economies of scale have all the answers you need
The Toshiba Thrive has a removable battery. The 10 inch, at any rate.
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Does anyone know if the LCDs and touchscreen digitizers for Samsung tablets and phones are cross-compatible? It would make sense from a manufacturer point of view to reuse the same circuits and architecture (I would think) but who knows... I want to replace a screen on one of my phones with a 10-12in tablet screen, and turn the phone into a DIY tablet thing. Why? Because it's an old phone that still works, is capable of LTE, and Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data plans (which I grandfathered in) on tablets, and because I have nothing better to do! :silly:
No chance for a mere mortal. Too many different controllers/adressing/timings/pinouts/...
BTW: How could your provider distinguish between use in a tablet and use in a phone? The borders between those devices are blurred and a check of device parameters like IMEI could be faked easily in many cases.
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No chance for a mere mortal. Too many different controllers/adressing/timings/pinouts/...
BTW: How could your provider distinguish between use in a tablet and use in a phone? The borders between those devices are blurred and a check of device parameters like IMEI could be faked easily in many cases.
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TBH, I don't know how they would check. I was seriously considering buying a tablet at first, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me anymore. A good new tablet is expensive, and the battery doesn't last that long. A good used tablet will cost ~the same amount as the hardware compontents to convert a phone into a tablet (the only things that really need to be changed are the screen and battery + potentially some DIY PCB adapter from new screen to phone), and the DIY tablet may come out a little heavier than COTS tablets out there, but I can pretty much pack as much battery as I want into it.
Anyhow, I'm not in any big rush to get a tablet, and this seems like a challenging and interesting project which I could use to learn a few things and better myself
I was l roaming around ebay looking for a good price on head unit. I found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321851333250?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Anyone have any experience with this company? This head unit?
It's Android 4.4.4 and doesn't look bad. It's also extremely cheap. Which is what really makes me wonder.
Looks like a low end dual core, low resolution 480 screen heufei unit.
A quad core(much snappier), high res 1024×600 screen easier to read, similar unit runs about $250 right now.
But it's good probably for the price if that is your absolute most crireria. If that meets you needs then go for it.
I do like the button layout on that unit though. It reminds me of the carjoying.com unit I have. I am not a fan of the units with lots of buttons that waste lots of screen space nor the ones that have no physical knobs or buttons and are all touch.
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Looks like a low end dual core, low resolution 480 screen heufei unit.
A quad core(much snappier), high res 1024×600 screen easier to read, similar unit runs about $250 right now.
But it's good probably for the price if that is your absolute most crireria. If that meets you needs then go for it.
I do like the button layout on that unit though. It reminds me of the carjoying.com unit I have. I am not a fan of the units with lots of buttons that waste lots of screen space nor the ones that have no physical knobs or buttons and are all touch.
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Thanks.
Money isn't the most important criteria but convincing my wife to spend a few hundred on a radio is practically impossible. :/
I wouldn't mind getting the higher res and faster chip that's for sure. Something to think about anyways.
I am looking at this unit, but the price seems prety steep to what other people are getting their units at: http://android-caraudio.com/en/2251-qkgac-7028hd-multimedia-android-444-quad-core-for-audi-a4.html
Do you guys think its worth the extra cost? It does include DHL shipping though...
Hello,
So I was in the market for a new watch. I figured that if I am going to go out and buy a watch, I may as well go with a smartwatch. I want it solely to show me what time it is and for notifications. (Phone Calls and Text Messages mainly) So I could care less about a heart rate sensor. Here are all of the watches that I have considered, but decided against for various reasons:
Asus Zenwatch 2: This was originally what I wanted to get, until I went and looked at it at Best Buy. I can't stand the bezels. If the watch face was all display, I would have one on my wrist right now.
Moto 360 1st Gen: Then I looked at this, as it was $150 from Motorola for the model I liked. (Champagne w/ brown leather) The dated processor and smaller battery turned me away.
Moto 360 2nd Gen: I do like this overall, however by the time I get it the way I want, I can just buy a Huawei watch for the same price. (Dodging the flat tire LCD for an AMOLED)
LG Watch Urbane: I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm not crazy about the overall design and I have heard numerous reports of screen burn in.
Huawei Watch: I like this watch overall. However, I feel a 2nd Gen is right around the corner, and the price is a bit high.
Tag Heuer Connected: I really like this one! I do not like its $1500 price tag though....
Samsung Gear S2 Classic: I feel this watch is PERFECT for me. I love the design and the rotating bezel! I was super bummed to find out the display size and that it wasn't running Android Wear though....
This brings me to my last choice, and the one that I ended up ordering: The Fossil Q Founder.
I really do like the design of the watch itself! I feel it looks quite nice. I prefer leather bands, so the fact that it accepts pretty much any 22mm watch band is a big plus. (I wont wear metal bands) I also feel the Fossil Q is a better investment, which played a big part in my decision. The Intel Atom processor, 1GB of ram, and internal speaker make it seem more future proof to me. The 400mah battery should be sufficient for a full day of use. I expected to have to charge whichever watch I ended up getting nightly. The only downfall to the Q in my opinion is the infamous flat tire on the display. I can live with it though. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have a Fossil Q Founder with the Huawei Watch Display. It is what it is though.
After reviewing pretty much every Android Wear watch, I found that none of them are perfect. There are pros and cons to all of them really. Even the Tag Heuer Connected, although I feel its only con is its price tag. lol. With very similar hardware and pretty much identical software I guess it comes down to personal preference of aesthetics ultimately. I like the design of the Fossil Q. The fact that it is a little better specd than others as well is what ultimately made me decide to get it.
I will update more when I get it. I am also going to (very carefully) pop the bottom off to see if I can find out which Intel Atom processor it is running exactly.
So what Android Wear watch did you go with and why?
xx
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I stopped wearing watches a few years ago as the bulk on my wrist started to annoy me and my phone told me the time so it seemed pointless. A few months ago the vibrate on my M8 stopped working, and as it was out of warranty and considerably hacked in the software department, I was kinda stuck until I can upgrade. I found myself missing notifications and calls and got pretty annoyed about it. I was holding out for the zenwatch 2 as it was cheap enough that if I didn't get on with it, it wouldn't be such a loss money-wise. However, it had limited availability and I didn't want to wait any longer as I would end up just waiting for the next better watch. I found a decent discount for the urbane and went for it. I always had chunky metal watches before (my last was a casio g-shock GW-1210U which I loved dearly, so I figured if I could change the band on the urbane to a nice metal one it wouldn't be much different. The Urbane is actually thinner than my old G-shock. Anyway, I love my urbane. Battery life is great, display is nice and it feels like a quality item. My only real issue with it is that it does lag sometimes, but I was expecting that so it doesn't put me off too much.
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Nice! I did look at the LG Urbane. Amazon has it right now for $250 brand new. So it was tempting. Especially being it has an AMOLED display with no flat tire. I just felt for $25 more dollars I am getting a slightly larger display, double the ram, and future speaker support. Personally, I like the design of the fossil more as well.
Zenwatch 2. I love it. Honestly, the software is all the same, and hardware to mostly. Zenwatch is more affordable meaning when gen 2 or 3 watches come out, you can put that extra money to get those.