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10.1 and ICS?

hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?

mhx said:
hows the DEV and ROM builds for ICS on the 10.1 TAB?
Considering buying one
Or should I hold off and wait for a new model to come out?
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I would wait for Samsung's next generation of tablets to hit with the quadcore Exynos SOC that should outperform the Tegra 3 and at least lower the prices of current models some. Either that or buy an iPad 3rd gen.. I'll catch hell for that, but it is a great tablet! Good luck with your decision!

There haven't been any leaked ICS builds yet and the CM build's don't have the camera working.
My 10.1 with 3.2 runs netflix and with bubble pnp and MX video will play all my media on my nas which the ipad won't do.
If you want to use it as a media device it works great as it is. The ICS release for the i9100 has left me convinced that Samsung will throw some ass UI on ICS and it might be a bit snappier (debatable) but my Tab works great now for what it is.

I am using the KANG ROM for ICS. Works well. No camera functionality yet because Samsung has not released the kernel yet. I never use it however, actually have a Canon for that!
KANG WIFI 10.1 ICS P7510
However, as previous poster said, you are in a unique position. I would definitely wait for the next gen tablet. Or if you like a device locked down but nice, get the new ipad. nothing worse than getting a new gizmo, and a new version is released at the store in a couple months!
If money is not an issue, snag a tablet now, maybe the ASUS prime (tegra 3) or the 10.1 at best buy, get the buyback option, and trade it in later when a new one comes out.

If you can wait a couple more months then I would say go with a newer gen tablet that will be coming out. If you cant and you want this one, I would say try to get it second hand off somebody as I think you will be more happy with it.

The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.

Its worth buying and trying out some of these roms. The price of this tab has come down.

mhx said:
The lack of updates from samsung sucks. I have a skyrocket and still no working ICS from samsung. I am an active DEV for the skyrocket..
Its just sad that we dont get the latest updates from samsung/google.
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I have the Note and I can't wait until ICS!

I just bought it because the $400 price point just hit me right. I like it so far but have not hacked it yet. If you want anything newer it's going to cost more and I doubt there is going to be another price drop anytime in the near future.

XDA is no longer worth my time.

I love mine and I love all the roms that you can try on them.

I got mine off craiglist a month ago that came with a case, carry pouch, sd card adapter, 3 anti gloss screen protector, 16 gig mircro sd, all original wires and its in perfect condition for $350
It the 32 gig model btw
Got it rooted right away and installed the p4wifi build 26
Its been a month and I still haven't gotten any problems
Absolutely love it as I use it to stream movies, shows, sports all type of media and ipad can't do any of that.
I also use it for work
If you can find it for about $300 its still a great deal considering you'll save $100+ compared to buying retail + tax
I played with the new ipad yesterday and all I can say is it got a very gorgeous screen and it's very smooth but it still can't do certain things I need my tablets to do and it's very pricey

I would suggest you wait till a newer one comes out. Samsung is really pathetic when it comes to updates. I have had the 10.1 3G since it was released. I have tried the ICS roms from Mabalito & Pershoot since months. They are pretty good but battery life reallllly sucks & WIFI connectivity problems are far too many since the last few builds. I have also used the iPad 2 along with this and the user experience is just a little bit better. Somehow I am so frustrated with Samsung for not ironing out these little nags with the tablet. They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.

aashayjardosh said:
They have made a mess of this gorgeous piece of hardware with some very ordinary and laggy touchwiz based software.
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Have you tried alternative launchers? Personally I rate ADW and GoLauncher way above TouchWiz (each to their own though). Admittedly I'm smitten with ICS AOSP now as I have that on my phone and my soon-to-be-replaced 7" tab, but I found the GB experience tripled as soon as I stopped using TW.

its pretty funny the lack of love samsung gives everyone in terms of updates for just about every device they make!
no device is perfect

I just pulled the trigger on a refurbed 10.1 on woot.
Hoping it'll be a good replacement for my old Viewsonic G Tablet.

The Galaxy 10.1 is a good choice for a useable TAB,
there are many good custom roms available, HC and ICS.
(yes, no camera yet at all ICS, only on HC)
You can mount windows shares with cifsmanager app,
and watch all videos with bsplayer app direct per directory,
or have access to all your files on the shares.
Realtime TV from a Dreambox with DreamDroid app,
all SD channels of the Box on the TAB.
(HD sucks because wifi only 65Mbps)
With Remote RDP Lite app you have a real RDP Client to use a windows remote session on the TAB.
Musik per DLNA upnp app from the mediaserver to the amplifier, and watch the files and cover on the TAB.
(i do it all so...it make's me happy)
All the suggested apps are free of cost...

some game is not running in ICS on my galaxy tab 10.1

I love my Tab 10.1, however, its inability to handle full 1080p HD videos is really frustrating. For instance my Galaxy S2 generates full 1080p videos using its default settings, but these videos can't be played on my Tab until I convert them to 720p using Handbrake. This a really annoying process. I should be able to play videos produced by my S2 using its default settings on my Tab without any extra steps.
My advice is, if you can wait a couple of months, get the next generation of Tab, which will hopefully have issues like this resolved.

Archer, ADW is really good! Thanks!
Both the ICS ROMs available as of today:
AOKP build 28 has that horrible MAC address issue.
Pershoots ROM (27th March) also has issues with WiFi & Personal Hotspot. Other than that it is pretty good.
Ofcourse one cannot blame these guys who are putting in so much hard work day in and day out for our devices.
It is really Sam'dump' that has to really get their slouchy asses off to releasing an ICS ROMm so Pershoot & Co. can take their builds forward with proper drivers. It seems all their attention is diverted to the Galaxy S2 currently. The Tab and Note both are riddled with an outdated OS. Its almost April 2012, Samsung seems to be sleeping. On the other hand ICS has been floating on rival companies tablets since months now!

{IDEA} Port TouchWiz from the Note 10.1 to the N7000

Now before I begin, I know there's already a TouchWiz tablet mode in the development forum based off of the the best qualities of the N7000 and the GTab 7.7 (both of which I own), and I've tried it already; it's very exciting development! However, as much as I like this tweak, and as cool as it is (credit given where it's due), wouldn't it be even better if we could simply port a stock Note 10.1 ROM directly to the N7000? I know that the N7000's hardware isn't anywhere near as impressive as the quad-core 2gb beast that the 10.1 is, but the screen resolution of both is the same, and the N7000 is no slouch in the performance department even 1 year on, so maybe it's worth a try?
As I mentioned, I own both the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the N7000. I love both devices. However, I primarily use the 7.7 as my daily driver, mainly because I prefer the tablet interface of Android vs the phone layout used in the stock Note. Thus, my N7000 has sat on my desk, more often than not, as more of a test bed and frankly as more of a toy to use for playing around with all the ROM's that are out there for it (again, credit where it's due!). I've already played around with all the tablet mode options out there; everything from AOSP/AOKP in tablet mode, to the lovely Paranoid hybrid ROM, and so on. However, even then, not everything is as it should be. The S-Pen functionality is greatly reduced, accessories such as MHL output and USB OTG don't always work, and hardware accelerated video playback is usually spotty. In short, it always seems to come close, but it's never quite a perfect fit; there's always something missing.
By porting the Note 10.1's stock TouchWiz to our Note, perhaps that may bring the best of all worlds: a proper TouchWiz tablet UX, with full S-Pen functionality, and all other stock features working properly as they were designed, not to mention the hovering mini-apps for simple things like accessing the dialer, messaging, S-Planner, etc.
If I could have that kind of experience on my current Note, not only would I be disinclined even to get the Note 2, but I think I might just sell my 7.7 as well!! This, for me, would truly be the best of both worlds, which is exactly what Samsung originally intended for the Note when the débuted it at last year's IFA 2011. Having that now would give the N7000 a whole new lease on life; I'm not about to give up on it yet!
What do you guys think?

I was thinking the same

ME TOO )))

Hmm, good to know I wasn't alone! Now, if only we could get the attention of some interested developers! I'd do it myself if I had the know-how (and the free time!)

Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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annie42 said:
Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
Skickat från min GT-N7000 via Tapatalk 2
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Here ya go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777500

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Seriously, the sooner can do this the better! Or teach me how, and I'll do it

What an awesome idea. I'd love to have something like LiquidBlack ROM but able to run S Planner which I love. And if the perfection of NoteCore kernel were included then it would make my Note into the phone it should have been back in November 2011 when I bought it!
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Now, the more visibility this thread can get to developers, the better!

You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.

id like it too A fully functioning stable TW tablet ROM.
Sounds cool !

since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update

androidindian said:
since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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Yeah, but the Note 2 and the S3 UI's are still all just PHONE features. The Note and the Note 2 are still just big phones with pens from a UI standpoint. While I'm not knocking that in and of itself (for many folks, retaining the phone UI on a large screen is preferable), I am pointing out that it still qualifies the Note(2) as just a really big phone, not a really small tablet.
All I'm lobbying for here is a proper TouchWiz option for the N7000 to be that really small tablet (with all the functionality and driver support of other TouchWiz builds) instead of a really big phone.
Some people prefer the phone UI, others the tablet UI. I don't want to sacrifice any functionality at all if I want to use a tablet UI out of preference. The same choice should be offered to everyone else too!

Livebyte said:
You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
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What would be a solution to have a ROM that you can connect in 160 dpi to your monitor with a MHL ?
As far as a I know aosp/aokp does not work, and stock devs managed to lower down to 240 max
Regards

Sounds like a really good idea, I hope some great dev make this possible.

The Note 10.1 has issues with multi-app performance (eg the apps aren't truly running simultaneously). Also, this is limited to only specific apps which can work multi-screen.
I don't really see what the benefit would be here. Plus doesn't it have more in common with the N7100 than the N7000?
Not much benefit for a ton of work which will likely be found useless upstream.
Also lately there have been very few dev projects for the Note 10.1 in general (take a look at their dev subforum)

Tab 7.7 or Tab 2 7.0

I am looking to upgrade my original 7.0 Tab (running cm9) and am considering both of these devices. I am on Verizon and would still like to be connected to the network as opposed to wifi only (or I would probably just go Nexus 7). Would be interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on which unit is the better way to go. I am leaning 7.7, but the price seems a bit high. Should I be considering a different model?
Thanks in advance.
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nocaldawg said:
I am looking to upgrade my original 7.0 Tab (running cm9) and am considering both of these devices. I am on Verizon and would still like to be connected to the network as opposed to wifi only (or I would probably just go Nexus 7). Would be interested in hearing everyone's thoughts on which unit is the better way to go. I am leaning 7.7, but the price seems a bit high. Should I be considering a different model?
Thanks in advance.
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The 7.7 is the best small tablet out there, hardware-wise (yes, including the Nexus 7. The Tegra 3 solution has never impressed me, specially with all the performance problems that Nvidia's CPUs have had since the beginning). It is basically an overgrown Galaxy Note, with the fastest dual-core CPU and one of the fastest GPUs out there. The screen is just beautiful. It costs more, but it offers a lot more as well.
However, the OS that comes with it (Honeycomb) is awful. Slow, laggy, unstable. There are official ICS upgrades for the international models, but those have their issues as well. And in your case, if you buy the US Verizon model, you'll have to wait until Verizon offers the software upgrade. This will probably never happen. So, the best option is to go for AOSP-based ROMs, such as CyanogenMod 10 or ParanoidAndroid (both of which are based on JB).
The Tab 2's hardware pales in comparison, but it offers ICS from the box and has a JB leak already out there. It also has CM10/PA/other AOSP ROMs, helped by the fact that its CPU, even though is slower than the 7.7's, is the same as the Galaxy Nexus. Developers call those OMAP4-based devices "easy mode" development...
So, the choice is better hardware versus better software. I chose better hardware, since you can always improve the software but it's hard to improve the hardware of a tablet.
If you're willing to go for something bigger, the Note 10.1 sounds very impressive. It's the only tablet out there with a hardware that is better (IMHO) than the 7.7, and it comes with ICS, with JB coming in the next few months.
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Clarifying my point... Even if you go the AOSP route, the software on the Tab 2 will be better than that on the 7.7. And that's simply because
(a) you'll have JB sources for your device, which helps A LOT;
(b) it's a cheaper device, therefore there will be more devices out there, and so, more developers; and
(c) it's "easy mode". TI releases all the docs, and people have a lot of experience from the Nexus and other similar devices. This is why, for example, the less popular Galaxy SII GT-I9100G had CM10 way before the regular, Enyxos-based GT-I9100.

well, from my experience, av been also a user of the GT - P1000, and i must say that it was the best gadget i ever had, moving to the 7.7 I was hesitating between 7.0 plus and this, never thought about the tab 2 for many reasons.
the truth is, i didn't find the 7.0 plus 3g, so i ended up with the 7.7 3g
i do like the 7.7, holding it in my hand is very confortable (my hands are huge, handy worker) but I HATE THE SMALL FONT, my GT - P1000 was great, i can read on it and use it without problems, but this, no way! by the end of the day you will have a horrible headache because if this tinny text...
no way to change it, even if there is an app who make it bigger (big font) but it laks stability, and the system will be affected, turns it to huge, but without it, you won't be able so see anything.
best regards
Sifou
Galaxy Tab 7.7

Custom ROM for Lenovo M8 FHD (TB-8705F)

I purchased this nice little tablet to replace my much loved Nexus 7 2013 2nd Gen as it's about the same size with better specifications.
I've unlocked and rooted the tablet and now looking for a decent custom rom... I guess I should have looked for the rom before unlocking but the cart before the horse seems to be my way.
Anyway, are there any custom roms for the M8 FHD?
I was thinking about dabbling with building a custom rom but I don't have any Linux coding experience.
I'd love to get Lineage or asop for this nice little tablet.

Unfortunately there's not much community support for this tablet even though the build is one of the best for us not wanting a 10" tablet. I've searched around here, other ROM sites, and have posted things in Lenovo's forums. From my experience, the Lenovo Android 10 ROM is garbage. It breaks widgets and notifications.
After unlocking mine I was able to go back to their Android 9 image which is still pretty good. It has some issues, but overall it functions well. I don't use the tablet often though.
One frustrating thing is that since Lenovo seems to not care, even though its an FHD tablet, they won't get the Widevine certification needed to play HD videos from the major players like Netflix.
I wish there was more support and love for this 8" tablet. I purchased a Samsung Tab A 8" at the same time and it was really sluggish compared to the Lenovo and didn't have much support for it either.

Too bad this was to be my Nexus 7, 2013 replacement... No roms makes for a boring tablet

I have to agree with you guys. I've had this little tab since June and it has been great. It has been well worth the $100.
I also agree that Lenovo needs to support Android better for its tabs. They have some great hardware that sometimes gets crippled by software. That's definitely the case with my old P10. It's really a great tablet that I would still use but it loses Wi-Fi every 5 minutes and the problem is 100% software.
Chaser

Are there other roms for the Fire HD 10 7th gen (suez)?

Hello there,
the post describes my question really well.
searched, but had no luck to find another custom rom. Lineage OS is just not for me.
If there isn't any alternative, how can i get into custom rom development?

There are Lineage 12.1 (aka Anadroid 5.1), Lineage 14.1 (aka Android 7.1) and Lineage 16.0 (aka Android 9.0) ROMs available for the suez.
I tried the 16.0 ROM out, but it's pretty buggy, and doesn't appear to be under active development at the moment. The only release was in feb 2020, and it hasn't gotten any new commits since. Since that ROM is buggy, I decided to try out the 14.1 ROM. It's a little on the old side, and it's a release from 2019, but based on my limited testing this week, it feels relatively stable.
There is a 12.1 ROM available as well. It was actively developed for quite awhile, with the last release coming in 2020, so it's probably by far the most stable. Unfortunately it's based on what is now an ancient version of Android, so it won't work for what I need.
It's a shame there isn't more development for this device, because the HW inside these tablets is decent, given the price point, all thanks to the Amazon subsidy. If you replace the craptastic Fire OS with something better, they are a bargain. I bought several of the douglas/karnak devices for Android testing, and as gifts. I only bought a single Fire HD 10, when I realized how great the screen is (1920x1200) and that the CPU inside is nearly twice as fast as the 8" devices. I got mine as a mint condition refurb for $30 in December.
For comparison when I benchmarked mine (using Lineage 14.1) it performed on par with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7" (from 2016). That tablet tablets still goes for $99 as a refurb.
It's worth noting that the Fire HD 10 actually proved to be faster in single threaded performance, so it should feel snappier, if someone gets all the bugs worked out.
Overall it was roughly even with the S2, because it can only 4 cores simultaneously, while the S2 can use all 8. That made the overall multicore performance roughly equal.
Hopefully someone takes up the mantle and builds a more recent ROM for the suez, but we'll see.
If your still searching for the needed to unlock it, or need the Lineage ROMs, they've been preserved on archive.org for posterity.
fire_hd_8_and_10_replacement_roms_202201 directory listing