Hello there,
the post describes my question really well.
searched, but had no luck to find another custom rom. Lineage OS is just not for me.
If there isn't any alternative, how can i get into custom rom development?
There are Lineage 12.1 (aka Anadroid 5.1), Lineage 14.1 (aka Android 7.1) and Lineage 16.0 (aka Android 9.0) ROMs available for the suez.
I tried the 16.0 ROM out, but it's pretty buggy, and doesn't appear to be under active development at the moment. The only release was in feb 2020, and it hasn't gotten any new commits since. Since that ROM is buggy, I decided to try out the 14.1 ROM. It's a little on the old side, and it's a release from 2019, but based on my limited testing this week, it feels relatively stable.
There is a 12.1 ROM available as well. It was actively developed for quite awhile, with the last release coming in 2020, so it's probably by far the most stable. Unfortunately it's based on what is now an ancient version of Android, so it won't work for what I need.
It's a shame there isn't more development for this device, because the HW inside these tablets is decent, given the price point, all thanks to the Amazon subsidy. If you replace the craptastic Fire OS with something better, they are a bargain. I bought several of the douglas/karnak devices for Android testing, and as gifts. I only bought a single Fire HD 10, when I realized how great the screen is (1920x1200) and that the CPU inside is nearly twice as fast as the 8" devices. I got mine as a mint condition refurb for $30 in December.
For comparison when I benchmarked mine (using Lineage 14.1) it performed on par with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7" (from 2016). That tablet tablets still goes for $99 as a refurb.
It's worth noting that the Fire HD 10 actually proved to be faster in single threaded performance, so it should feel snappier, if someone gets all the bugs worked out.
Overall it was roughly even with the S2, because it can only 4 cores simultaneously, while the S2 can use all 8. That made the overall multicore performance roughly equal.
Hopefully someone takes up the mantle and builds a more recent ROM for the suez, but we'll see.
If your still searching for the needed to unlock it, or need the Lineage ROMs, they've been preserved on archive.org for posterity.
fire_hd_8_and_10_replacement_roms_202201 directory listing
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Anybody had the chance to test both or probably own both? What would you recommend? I have the option to get Note 5 for just 50 EUR more than Moto so I can't decide. This is what I was able to gather
Camera: better on Note 5
Battery: better on Note 5
Display/colors: better on Note 5
Updates: better on Moto
System: better on Moto (pure android)
Thanks for any inputs
It depends on the time you will keep the phone with you... Apps/android get heavier and heavier with time, and add that to an already heavy interface that is touchwiz, for me that takes a good year of life a phone may have. I'm personally not a fan of touchwiz, or of all that bloatware samsung throws at a phone to start with, but i gotta say i was kinda seduced by note 5. The phone is gorgeous, AMOLED is awesome (even though it burns with time, another thing that adds to the decrease of the phone's life), the battery seems fine, there was some power tests with it and it held up quite well... but i still went for the x style 'cause of the clean, top notch system. Also battery life isn't that much of a big deal, 'cause turbopower charges really fast.
The Note 5 is has an Exynos SoC, so you're pretty much guaranteed dismal development on it. I just glanced at the Note 5 xda page and it looks like it is just some stock mods. That would be fine on the Moto X. I'm actually just running rooted stock on it now, but on the Note...Touchwiz [involuntary shudder].
I've heard Touchwiz is getting better, but I'm not so sure Touchwiz is getting better. I just think Samsung is cranking out some awesome silicon that is actually capable of dragging that boat anchor.
You better believe Samsung has already moved on to the next big thing. Supporting last years' flagships is not high on their priority list. My other phone is a Galaxy S3, a 2012 flagship. It hadn't seen an update since it got kitkat in late 2013. In mid 2015 they actually pushed another OTA, but it was just another kitkat version that was supposed to patch stagefright vulnerabilities. Hilariously enough it only patched about 2 of the 6 or so CVE's.
On the other hand that phone is actually running rock solid CM 12.1 based custom roms. It also has some pretty promising early CM 13 based builds, but it has a Qualcomm snapdragon SoC (its the i747 not the i9300). It is kind of a sad state of affairs, but we really rely on the dev community to keep our older devices patched and up to date more than at least some manufacturers.
TLDR - Samsung makes great hardware, but they can keep their Exynos, their Knox, and their Touchwiz. I know of no reason why the Superbrick treason should ever be forgot. Give me Qualcomm, a close to AOSP experience, and a microSD slot please.
I currently have a Nook HD+ running on Cyanogenmod 13 for sheet music and watching movies while travelling. The screen is fantastic but it's quite slow. For some time I've been looking for a faster and newer upgrade that supports Cyanogenmod as it means you can stay up to date with Android releases without relying on the manufacturer. Also, Cyanogenmod is much slimmer than most stock overlays (Touchwiz, I'm looking at you).
The 2016 Tab A 10.1 seems to fit the bill specs wise, but is there any likelihood at all we'll see Cyanogenmod on it? Even though my Nook HD+ is slow, it's usable and is still receiving Cyanogenmod updates (with potential Nougat CM14 in the offing). I wouldn't want to buy a Tab A only to be stuck on Marshmallow forever.
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I currently have a Nook HD+ running on Cyanogenmod 13 for sheet music and watching movies while travelling. The screen is fantastic but it's quite slow. For some time I've been looking for a faster and newer upgrade that supports Cyanogenmod as it means you can stay up to date with Android releases without relying on the manufacturer. Also, Cyanogenmod is much slimmer than most stock overlays (Touchwiz, I'm looking at you).
The 2016 Tab A 10.1 seems to fit the bill specs wise, but is there any likelihood at all we'll see Cyanogenmod on it? Even though my Nook HD+ is slow, it's usable and is still receiving Cyanogenmod updates (with potential Nougat CM14 in the offing). I wouldn't want to buy a Tab A only to be stuck on Marshmallow forever.
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There might not be a Cyanogenmod for your device particularly. But, somewhat there will, more than sure, be an Evervolv custom rom for your device. If you want someone to port it for you, it will take them about a year to two years for making the rom pretty much flawless. I have a Galaxy Tab A 8.0" Smoky Titanium XAR and it has not gotten Cyanogenmod yet, but there is an unofficial rom of Evervolv.
I just want to bump this up.
I really don't think there is any development going on whatsoever as far as AOSP based roms for the 580.
If there is someone at least looking into it, they should let us know. I would definitely try to be a tester and even donate
It's a shame, this tablet is really nice and snappy, but it does feel bogged down by TouchWiz.
Hi guys! Just thought about creating a new thread about what would be our next device. This is 2017 and i thought it was time to move on and put my SAMSUNG GALAXY MINI(GT-9192)(2013)to rest. Although it is still working well and I might keep it for a few months before giving it away to my friend or family,but as said could not resist the temptation for a new device (Bigger-better-sharper display, bigger battery,fast charging, notification led, fingerprint sensor, updated android( had enough of custom roms)good build quality etc.).
So I choose..............LENOVO P2. Yup, after reading/watching hundreds of reviews i thought it is best Value for money device at the moment. Anyways................ share your stories. Thanks for reading.
UPDATE: SOLD my LENOVO P2.......primary reason....too big for my small hands. Second: I just hate dull stock like ui. Otherwise the device is very good.
UPDATE 2: Bought , used for a week and sold Lenovo Z2 plus/ZUK Z2(4/64). Reason for selling: LCD display. I will never buy a phone with LCD again. Reason 2: Device is compact but too thick. So it fails the purpose(ergonomics).
UPDATE 3: Finally(I hope so ) settled on GALAXY A5 2017(BLACK). Got it for around $250 from Amazon deal. So far enjoying the device. Its bigger and heavier compared to S4 MINI, but compact days are over i guess!!
I have no idea what could be the successor of my s4 mini, specially in terms of dimensions and cost.......
Went for the Sony Xperia X Compact, mainly for following reasons
- smallest form factor for modern mobile I could find, in combination with below
- acceptable price
- open source program (open device program gives you complete binaries and manual to build aosp)
- enough features for me (fingerprint, NFC, enough power for encryption, etc.)
So far I am happy with it. Running a 6.0.1 AOSP on it (no N, due to XPosed); completely removed google, hence microg.
I remember coming to a conclusion about a year ago when i thought about replacing my s4 mini. I realized at that time, I cannot replace my s4 mini.
So bought a Nexus 5X and have been using it alongside my S4 Mini. Any apps that I dont use on my main phone (5X) are installed on s4 mini. It was also
my backup device and I my parents used it occasionally when their phones were out for repair. I am so proud of my "serrano", I will never give up on it.
I will use it till it no longer functions. Awesome phone, phenomenal custom rom support. I would like to take this opportunity to thank @arco68 for putting
an amazing effort to keep this 2013 midrange phone more than relevant in 2017. Thanks for your work man. Cheers.
replacing with what?
for my usecase there is no option available.
- size
- replaceable battery
- sd-card
- hardware-home-button
- KK rom
these are the hardware facts. i also use an amami and it is quite comparable.
unfortunately no battery swap possible, though water-resistant
if i go to the OS features there is no option even close to the KK rom.
batterylife, customization, xposed, BLN (mandatory!). all worse or even
not possible on newer roms.
lucky me has two unboxed serranos, so it will work for the next years
I have a Nexus 5X
You want small (& cheap)?
https://www.xda-developers.com/jelly-is-a-2-45-smartphone-that-runs-android-nougat/
I cannot replace my s4 mini. So I bought another one, just in case of the "Vietnamese phone death" as that happening very often.
IronRoo said:
You want small (& cheap)?
https://www.xda-developers.com/jelly-is-a-2-45-smartphone-that-runs-android-nougat/
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good idea, but the resolution si quite embarrassing
It's one step back respect to the s4mini
I got my Honor 8 a few months ago
I just bought my first (brand new) I9505 a couple of weeks ago, to replace an old I9100. Previously I had experimented with a Jolla phone from 2014-2016, but Sailfish didn't quite cut it for me in terms of its versatility and the device wasn't as ergonomic as I would like. Last year I also picked up a mint Nokia 6310i, which I will use as a phone for as long as the GSM networks in the UK aren't shut down.
The GS4 Mini is unique for having one of the last full RGB matrix AMOLED displays, which at a pixel density of below 300 is a big deal. The combination of the size and a removable battery makes the device a perfect fit for me, I even bought a couple of genuine spare batteries, a Casemate tough case and Mediadevil screen protectors, this should allow the phone to last me a heck of a long time. LineageOS 13 will suffice until 14.1 builds become stable.
I do not want to replace S4 Mini. Only if absolutely necessary. Size, RAM, Screen, etc. Are perfect for my use. I would continue to use KK if there were security patches. But AOKP 7 works perfectly. AOSP ROMS just does not have the same quality in the camera and audio recordings. I used a lot of camera and audio recordings (in stereo) in KK. But I still do not want to replace. Only when this new battery is gone. Maybe until that happens Samsung returns with compact and quality versions. S5 Mini was a very bad one. He would be the replacement at the time. But camera, audio recording, etc. Were bad when I compared my S4 Mini.
Just ordered a Doogee s60, but I am holding on to the mighty 257 just in case. Arco68 has been instrumental in keeping mine going and I can't thank him enough. Now I just have to gain his mad skills and start hacking away at the Doogee.
I have 3 phones: s4 mini I9195I, Moto E 2015 and a Galaxy Young GT-S6310N. Next phones probably gonna be an s6 if I can get hold of one.
I bought a Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus
Probably i would buy a galaxy A3 for the actual size very similar to S4mini and for a respectful hw components. Sony Xperia X compact the second choiche or maybe the first one..
I upgraded to a Galaxy A310f(£100 special offer) when it was released in 2016, from the S4 Mini i9195. The adequate A3 lasted several months before something gave up inside and the (non-removable) battery decided to pretend it was constantly charging, even when unplugged, while the power continued to fall until it was empty.
A void warranty due to customisations etc. has rendered it a glass-slab paper-weight until I might decide to get it fixed myself.
In the meantime as a replacement, I found a second hand old, trusty i9195 in a local shop and, to be honest, I'm going to be disappointed if/when it becomes time to replace it again. Lovely little phone with loads of bug-free ROM options(unlike the A3, for now, unless you like Touchwiz, I don't), removable battery, perfect size, the only thing I actually miss from my A3 is the USB-OTG capability but I can live without it.
Long live the S4 Mini! ???
I think i would buy a galaxy A3 2017
Maybe the S9 mini, if this rumor is true.
still nothing comparable
untill today i am not aware of an successor of my GT-i9195 pack
regarding:
- size
- OLED display
- KK 2 O CustomRoms stable and unstable ofcorse
- removable battery (using this app. 2times a month!)
- sdCard slot
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas everyone!
I just finished updated my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 to Lineage OS and am about to do the same for my Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus. I plan on giving one of these to my mom but I can't decide which one I want to keep for myself. The Galaxy S2 is older but at the time built to be a higher end tablet, it has more ram, a higher resolution screen, and more built in storage. The Lenovo is newer though more mid range, has better speakers, more efficient / faster processors, and a sim card slot (which in the year I've had it I've never actually used).
So which would you keep and which would you give away? And if you feel like saying why you would keep one over the other that would be great too! Thanks!
tenpinmogul said:
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas everyone!
I just finished updated my Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 to Lineage OS and am about to do the same for my Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus. I plan on giving one of these to my mom but I can't decide which one I want to keep for myself. The Galaxy S2 is older but at the time built to be a higher end tablet, it has more ram, a higher resolution screen, and more built in storage. The Lenovo is newer though more mid range, has better speakers, more efficient / faster processors, and a sim card slot (which in the year I've had it I've never actually used).
So which would you keep and which would you give away? And if you feel like saying why you would keep one over the other that would be great too! Thanks!
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Hi,
I actually have both right next to me. I originally bought the Lenovo for myself, impressed by the screen and speakers. But a cocktail of SD card corruption, poor software updates, lack of decent, reliable rooting, and bloated default software made me change. The S2 is now my daily driver, getting multiple hours use every day with zero complaints. The Lenovo got passed on to family, and even support use is frustrating. Lenovo updates are rare and unreliable, the onboard storage is limiting, and after a couple of years ownership of both, the Lenovo in noticeably worse condition than the S2, and the S2 is in a backpack daily. Given the free choice of either, I'd pick the S2 all day, every day.
Out of interest, what guide are you using for the LineageOS on Lenovo install? Most I've seen promise much but fail part way through.
enigmo said:
Hi,
I actually have both right next to me. I originally bought the Lenovo for myself, impressed by the screen and speakers. But a cocktail of SD card corruption, poor software updates, lack of decent, reliable rooting, and bloated default software made me change. The S2 is now my daily driver, getting multiple hours use every day with zero complaints. The Lenovo got passed on to family, and even support use is frustrating. Lenovo updates are rare and unreliable, the onboard storage is limiting, and after a couple of years ownership of both, the Lenovo in noticeably worse condition than the S2, and the S2 is in a backpack daily. Given the free choice of either, I'd pick the S2 all day, every day.
Out of interest, what guide are you using for the LineageOS on Lenovo install? Most I've seen promise much but fail part way through.
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Thanks for the reply. I came to a similar conclusion about the two tablets except I ended up keeping the Lenovo and giving my mom the S2. I wanted her to have the tablet with a good ROM on it with the latest security updates and that would be reliable so I wouldn't have to deal with being tech support any more than necessary. Another factor that went into it was that, as you mentioned, getting a custom ROM on the Lenovo seems to be a lost cause.
I tried following a couple of posts that were basically the same process just with different ROMs. This is the Lineage one - https://forum.xda-developers.com/th...om-lineageos-16-0-lenovo-tab4-8-plus-t3950430. I was able to get the tablet unlocked and rooted, got TWRP fully installed (as opposed to just booting into it), tried both Magisk and SU, and while the ROMs appeared to install I could never get them to boot (I always ended stuck at the Lenovo boot logo which makes me think the ROMs didn't actually install). The only clue as to why was during installation I kept getting an access error with a couple of folders, specifically /lenovocust. I was able to find some others who had that error but I wasn't able to find a solution for it. After trying too many times to count and spending probably 20 or more hours over the course of a week going in circles with formatting, rooting, installing, and using the Lenovo recovery app I finally gave up. I'm not a heavy tablet user and I bought the Lenovo for a specific purpose (drone monitor) that it's no longer used for (got a CrystalSky - which has it's own issues) so I can live with an outdated, slightly less robust tablet. I also have a 10" 2016 Samsung Tab A so might try messing with the Lenovo again in the future until I either get it to work or I break it.
I purchased this nice little tablet to replace my much loved Nexus 7 2013 2nd Gen as it's about the same size with better specifications.
I've unlocked and rooted the tablet and now looking for a decent custom rom... I guess I should have looked for the rom before unlocking but the cart before the horse seems to be my way.
Anyway, are there any custom roms for the M8 FHD?
I was thinking about dabbling with building a custom rom but I don't have any Linux coding experience.
I'd love to get Lineage or asop for this nice little tablet.
Unfortunately there's not much community support for this tablet even though the build is one of the best for us not wanting a 10" tablet. I've searched around here, other ROM sites, and have posted things in Lenovo's forums. From my experience, the Lenovo Android 10 ROM is garbage. It breaks widgets and notifications.
After unlocking mine I was able to go back to their Android 9 image which is still pretty good. It has some issues, but overall it functions well. I don't use the tablet often though.
One frustrating thing is that since Lenovo seems to not care, even though its an FHD tablet, they won't get the Widevine certification needed to play HD videos from the major players like Netflix.
I wish there was more support and love for this 8" tablet. I purchased a Samsung Tab A 8" at the same time and it was really sluggish compared to the Lenovo and didn't have much support for it either.
Too bad this was to be my Nexus 7, 2013 replacement... No roms makes for a boring tablet
I have to agree with you guys. I've had this little tab since June and it has been great. It has been well worth the $100.
I also agree that Lenovo needs to support Android better for its tabs. They have some great hardware that sometimes gets crippled by software. That's definitely the case with my old P10. It's really a great tablet that I would still use but it loses Wi-Fi every 5 minutes and the problem is 100% software.
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