6P with 6.0.1 won't keep default SMS app - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, so I recently started having issues with my default SMS app sticking. Only change I've made was installing a new SMS app (wanted something different than Verizon Message+)
Android 6.0.1 MTC20F.
It keeps switching around to any app that has SMS capability, so SMS Backup, Messenger (Facebook), Titanium Backup, but never Evolve (which I want) or Verizon Message+.
If I uninstall ALL those other apps, it works, but the problem is that I use those other apps. I've denied them SMS access and turned off SMS settings in the apps, set the default in the system settings.
Am I missing something? I just don't get it, never had an issue like this before.

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[Q] help with text messaging notifications

i installed the latest apex rom the other day. ever since then, i'm getting double notifications for text messages. i uninstalled any of the extra messaging apps other than the main one, and its still happening. any ideas???
I had the same problem.. did you do a clean wipe? Titanium backuped my apps and wiped the phone.. Then restored one by one (didn't have too many apps luckily lol).. That solved my issue
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you gotta have some sort of messaging app or something like sms popup also installed
make sure that the notifications are turned off in the stock app this is why you get two notifications

[Q] Help please: Titanium Backup making itself the default messaging app

Sometimes Titanium Backup makes itself my default message app. Now, anyone with familiarity with TiBu should know that it is not a messaging app. It can't send them or receive them, as far as I can tell.
When it is the default and someone texts me, the text seems to never arrive at my phone. In fact, the only way that I know TiBu has become the default is when someone asks why I'm ignoring their texts and I look at the default apps to find TiBu as my messenger.
Is there a reason why this should be happening? Is there a reason why TiBu should even be an option for default messaging apps? I've attached a pic to prove I'm not crazy. Hopefully someone out there has seen this and has an answer? I'm tempted to uninstall TiBu until I need it, reinstalling every time I need to backup apps and then uninstall it again. That just seems like an avoidable hassle.
SanguiniusWept said:
Sometimes Titanium Backup makes itself my default message app. Now, anyone with familiarity with TiBu should know that it is not a messaging app. It can't send them or receive them, as far as I can tell.
When it is the default and someone texts me, the text seems to never arrive at my phone. In fact, the only way that I know TiBu has become the default is when someone asks why I'm ignoring their texts and I look at the default apps to find TiBu as my messenger.
Is there a reason why this should be happening? Is there a reason why TiBu should even be an option for default messaging apps? I've attached a pic to prove I'm not crazy. Hopefully someone out there has seen this and has an answer? I'm tempted to uninstall TiBu until I need it, reinstalling every time I need to backup apps and then uninstall it again. That just seems like an avoidable hassle.
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It shows up as an option for me as well but it isn't selected as my default.
Inside titanium there is a titanium messages app that is called "Messages (SMS & MMS) com.keramidas.virtual.xml_messages
You can't delete it since it is a part of titanium. Maybe this is the way it backs up the messages. Our phones see that as a possible messaging app.
It's not always my default, it just steals it every so often. A little frustrating, and I can't google for the answer because all i get are pages telling me how to freeze the default messaging app with TiBu.
Tulsadiver said:
It shows up as an option for me as well but it isn't selected as my default.
Inside titanium there is a titanium messages app that is called "Messages (SMS & MMS) com.keramidas.virtual.xml_messages
You can't delete it since it is a part of titanium. Maybe this is the way it backs up the messages. Our phones see that as a possible messaging app.
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If I can't delete it, can I freeze it? I'm just wondering why my default changes to TiBu for no reason. I may have to go the messy route of deleting/reinstalling whenever I need it.
SanguiniusWept said:
If I can't delete it, can I freeze it? I'm just wondering why my default changes to TiBu for no reason. I may have to go the messy route of deleting/reinstalling whenever I need it.
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There doesn't seem to be an option to uninstall or freeze.
The behavior that I have seen is that TiBu sets itself as the default messaging app when performing restores of SMS messages.
Is it possible that you have some scheduled TiBu jobs running?
Tybalt said:
The behavior that I have seen is that TiBu sets itself as the default messaging app when performing restores of SMS messages.
Is it possible that you have some scheduled TiBu jobs running?
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The only schedule I have is to "Backup new user+system apps & newer versions". It's not enabled and has never run. I'll delete it, just in case it's giving me that issue, and watch for the problem to reappear.

Uh oh, what happened to all my SMS messages?

I'm a fiend for backing up SMS messages. I'm one of those guys who always thinks "you never know when you'll need it so back it up." A few weeks ago I had a soft-bricked Security Error on my G2. Luckily, this was in the same day after fully backing the phone up to OTG USB via Titanium. I decided to jump on the CloudyG2 train from CM12.1, mainly for xCam. I restored all my backups through Titanium. All of my SMS messages came back in my default app, Textra. However, those messages do not appear in other apps like the stock Messaging app or SMS Backup & Restore. Any SMS I've sent after flashing Cloudy show up fine in all apps, but Textra gets the backed up/restored SMS plus all the new ones. Any idea where they are? Are they permanently "locked" into Textra now because of using Titanium?

3rd Party Messaging Apps will not receive text

Hello All!
I've been having this problem for a few weeks now and im all out of ideas of what to do.
Carrier: T-Mobile
Wearable: S3 Rugged
Extra Service: DIGITS
Coming From: LGV20 which never had these issues with the same plans and accesories
So to start, when i got the phone inittially during setup of the google accounts i noticed that my OTP SMS Pushes were not being received, or auto filling the information. I skipped past all of that and noticed that anywhere that OTP text were suppose to autofill in different applications, it would not even when i received the text and got a notification.
So after a while of using TEXTRA which was working fine, one day i stopped receiving ALL text not just mms. I was able to send but never was I able to get anything from anyone. I ditched TEXTRA and went back to the stock Samsung app and noticed that all text were there, even though it was not default. After using the Samsung messages app i decided to go back to textra, heres whats funny. After Textra did it's initial setup, it only showed half of the recieved text from up to that day. Messages were incomplete, some just had one reply from a user and nothing else. So I also tried this with Android Messages and it had the EXACT same message log as textra. Both were not receiving the full logs from the server. Today Android Messaging was working for a good part of the day, then it just stopped all of sudden again.
Can someone help me with this, I've wiped the cache and factory reset the phone. Ive added and removed the multi-line settings in the samsung settings. I've tried the legacy settings on textra. I've called the DIGIT's customer service to see if they could fix it but they made and interesting point that it couldnt be digit because it wouldnt interfere with 3rd part messaging apps. When i switch apps i always make them default, i wipe the app cache etc.
I have a gut feeling this has something to do with something with the default Samsung Messages app and it somehow restricting use outside of it.
I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
wjm3982 said:
I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
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I haven't had any issues with my At&t model...Been using Yaata since day one (about 2 months).
Also, there are some "package disabling" apps in the play store that will allow you to disable any app you want, you don't even need to be rooted. It cost me $1.99 (or around there), but was well worth it! You can even completely disable Bixby, so the button is even non-responsive.
Having the same issue and I may have fixed it. I logged completely out of Digits on the phone (settings/cloud accounts/multi line/hit the ... menu and choose log out.
I have this same issue. No matter which 3rd party SMS app I use I have missing text messages on the T-Mobile S8. Has anyone fixed this? It is driving me crazy. T-Mobile replaced my S8 and the new one does it (not as bad but it does it more than I'd like). How can I resolve this? My friend haf the same issue, he has an unlocked T-Mobile working on AT&T.
I don't use Digits or anything like that... any ideas?
hi guys
all you need to do
go to setings
device maintence
battery
scrool all the way down to unmonitored apps and add your 3rd party sms app
youre welcome
This still didn't work for me and I am having the same exact issues. I have tried installing 2 different 3rd party messaging (Textra and Mood) and both were not working properly. I can send messages out just fine but when I receive them they are delayed (like 5 minutes or longer). Sometimes, I don't get the messages at all. Of course, the Samsung Messaging app (which I hate) works just fine. I have even "Force Stopped" it! What to do?
go into the stock messaging app, and turn off advanced messaging
Has anyone found a solution? I've been using textra for years & suddenly in March I started having this problem but with sent messages. All incoming texts are displayed but my sent texts aren't. I did try the 2 suggestions above. On a note 8, Android 8.0.0,Samsung experience 9.0.
SOLVED. I had the same issues and found the solution. Before you install your 3rd party sms/MMS you need to disable the default messenger. I uninstalled signal, disabled the built-in messenger, reinstalled signal. Now I can receive texts. Also my phone is not a Samsung.

Sent Messages (SMS/MMS) - Can't Backup or View Using Non-Stock App

My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
Parasol_Monsters said:
SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
Parasol_Monsters said:
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.

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