Sent Messages (SMS/MMS) - Can't Backup or View Using Non-Stock App - LG V20 Questions & Answers

My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?

dub5a said:
My phone is an H910 running Oreo (stock; never rooted). I have used the stock Messaging app for SMS/MMS.
I am trying to backup all SMS/MMS and move to a different device so that I can delete them on my H910 to save space. There are about 1,200 messages to move. Ideally, I would like to be able to save all sent/received messages and open them in a messaging app on a different non-LG device. (I would like to open them via a messaging app installed to BlueStacks. My preference would be to save them to my email; I previously used SMS Backup+ with great success, but that has not worked for years now it seems, so I am not counting on a solution like that.)
The problem I am running into is that I cannot seem to save my sent messages. In other words, I can see all of my received messages when viewing them on the new device, but none of the messages I have sent.
I have tried switching to new messaging apps such as Google Messages and Textra on the H910. However, this only shows my received messages (no sent messages).
I have also tried using a backup/restore app such as SMS Backup & Restore, but my sent messages are not backed up that way, either. (I have used a number of different methods to view the file with the backed up messages. The only messages shown are received messages.)
Does anyone have any recommendation for how to solve this? Why can't I backup/save my sent messages?
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SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?

Parasol_Monsters said:
SMS Backup & Restore works for me on Android 8 (US996).
A search came up with this:
https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/not-able-to-backup-sent-text-messages-12778
where RCS messages are the problem, are you using RCS?
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Thank you for your response.
Yes, that appears to be the problem. The H910 is AT&T-branded, and I am using it on AT&T. It automatically comes with "advanced messaging" (aka RCS) enabled. So, that is the problem... that is why SMS Backup & Restore will not work. (It looks like SMS Backup & Restore might work with RCS if I had been using Google Messages from the start. Unfortunately, that was not the case.)
I am now wondering if I can get another V20/other capable device with a better messaging app installed prior to the process and then use AT&T's Mobile Transfer to move everything over and back. I may pursue this.
If anyone has a better method of backing up SMS/MMS/RCS messages, please let me know. Otherwise, I guess the moral of the story is to always use a third-party messaging app that allows for backup of RCS or stores the messages via cloud/alternative means that you can actually access.

This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/

Parasol_Monsters said:
This might be a solution:
https://www.att.com/features/backup-sync/
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Thank you. I actually was attempting to use that last night. It seems that using this allows you to backup all messages (SMS/MMS/RCS) to AT&T's cloud, but you can then only access them via AT&T's messaging app. There does not appear to be a way to export them from that app to a different device. So, it is great if you just want to view the messages on a different device... but not so great if you actually want to move the messages from one device to another.

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[Q] Saving and restoring SMS messages between builds

What applications/processes to people use to save/backup/restore SMS messages? I previously used SMS Backup (the version by Michele Valentini as there are others with the same name, and I'm currently unable to post links) but this now seems to have problems restoring (possibly due to gingerbread). Any suggestions?
flibbble said:
What applications/processes to people use to save/backup/restore SMS messages? I previously used SMS Backup (the version by Michele Valentini as there are others with the same name, and I'm currently unable to post links) but this now seems to have problems restoring (possibly due to gingerbread). Any suggestions?
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SMS Backup & Restore. Download from Market. It's free and flawlessly working in Froyo and Gingerbread for me.
flibbble said:
What applications/processes to people use to save/backup/restore SMS messages? I previously used SMS Backup (the version by Michele Valentini as there are others with the same name, and I'm currently unable to post links) but this now seems to have problems restoring (possibly due to gingerbread). Any suggestions?
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See what i'm using, there is no problem after update, everything is there as it was.
I know it's not gingerbread...
look at these programs and test, i personaly don't keep/need sms's
www "dot" appbrain "dot" com/search?q=sms+backup
SMS Backup+ is VERY nice. I've used SMS Backup and Restore, as mentioned above, but SMS Backup+ offers some real nice features. It creates a folder called SMS in your gmail account and (can be set to) automatically store text messages in that folder. You can also restore back to the phone any time you want, but it does mean you've got access to them from anywhere you can access your gmail account, which I find very nice!
Obviously, you can't reply with an SMS from your gmail account, but it you leave your phone at home you can still check your texts online.

Slow Interface for Text Messages

I am not sure if it is just me or everyone else is also having this problem also:
The Message app interface is really slow. It takes a long time to load or send messages. There is atleast a 5+ second delay when interfacing with different threads. For example: When I am reading my txt messages from person A, and then I press the back button to view all my messages, it takes atleast 5+ secs to go back to the view with all messages.
To troubleshoot this issue, I backed up my mmssms.db file and deleted it from the phone. This way I start fresh with no saved message. All of a sudden this issue was solved. The interface was fast again with no lag at all. But when I restored my original mmssms.db again, the interface becomes slow again.
Any way resolve this issue?
Edit: I am using the MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.
Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.
johncmolyneux said:
Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.
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Yes, I am using the Android MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.
Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?
DeadVirus said:
I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?
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I have over 5000+ txt in total.
Zythyr said:
I have over 5000+ txt in total.
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Well I have less than 1000, so that may be your problem...
Well I don't want to delete all my text. I like having all the conversations saved. Is there any fix for this issue?
I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.
johncmolyneux said:
I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.
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I installed GO SMS. Really like the app, thanks for the tip, although the interface is still slow.
Also, I have been noticing my text messages keep randomly being deleted. Luckily I have them backed up and have to restore it. I have noticed this problem atleast 4 times during the last 4 days. Why is this happening? I made sure to go to Settings and uncheck limited messages.

[Q] SMS limit per conversation!

Hey guys, I had previously stored my 5000+ sms messages from my XperiaX10 into my Gmail account... After I bought the Atrix4G, when I restored these messages, I saw that just some part of them were restored because there is a limitation of SMS's per conversation in Android 2.2!
Is there ANY way for me to restore ALL my messages back to my phone? Any way to remove that SMS limitation they put (which is 1000 per contact I believe)? If it's through an application (through rooting the phone, anything I can do...?)
Thanks a bunch!
Try the handcent text messaging app. Its free plus will give you a TON of extra features including unlimited inbox limit.
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b14ck0ut said:
Try the handcent text messaging app. Its free plus will give you a TON of extra features including unlimited inbox limit.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
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hmm I liked the idea, buuuut I believe Handcent syncs directly from the Messaging App so if the Messaging app doesn't get the restored messages from Gmail, I'm guessing Handcent wouldn't either? It bugged the only time I tried... I could try again, but I don't really know what I'm talking about hehe...
And I've never really used Handcent, how does it work when you receive a message? Do you get 2 notifications? Is it possible to set Handcent as the default messaging app? How does it work?
Gjm127 said:
Hey guys, I had previously stored my 5000+ sms messages from my XperiaX10 into my Gmail account... After I bought the Atrix4G, when I restored these messages, I saw that just some part of them were restored because there is a limitation of SMS's per conversation in Android 2.2!
Is there ANY way for me to restore ALL my messages back to my phone? Any way to remove that SMS limitation they put (which is 1000 per contact I believe)? If it's through an application (through rooting the phone, anything I can do...?)
Thanks a bunch!
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With 5000+ messages, wouldn't you rather leave them in Gmail? At least you could use the search feature in there
Yea wouldn't it be better to save that in an archive then build it again with another app now? Of course I don't know how you could import them if the SMS applications don't support it but....
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It just doesn't make sense to have 5000 text messages in that format. That's a lot of scrolling if you are trying to find a specific text message, whereas, in the Gmail app you can use keywords, such as the contact's name and whatever you were talking about and then BAM, there it is.

Any way to backup Advanced Messaging Texts?

Has anyone found a way to back up all your texts, including those sent or received using Advanced Messaging?
I've discovered that all the apps that I've tried so far can't "see" texts that were sent or received using Advanced Messaging. This includes:
- SMS Backup+
- SMS Backup and Restore
- GO SMS Pro
The only thing that does work is the built-in AT&T Messages Backup & Sync service, but that only keeps the last 90 days of messages.
I'm looking for a way to back up all my messages so I can do a factory restore on my AT&T Galaxy S7 because it's running really badly after the Nougat update (eating up my battery like it's candy).
Thank you!
paleG said:
Has anyone found a way to back up all your texts, including those sent or received using Advanced Messaging?
I've discovered that all the apps that I've tried so far can't "see" texts that were sent or received using Advanced Messaging. This includes:
- SMS Backup+
- SMS Backup and Restore
- GO SMS Pro
The only thing that does work is the built-in AT&T Messages Backup & Sync service, but that only keeps the last 90 days of messages.
I'm looking for a way to back up all my messages so I can do a factory restore on my AT&T Galaxy S7 because it's running really badly after the Nougat update (eating up my battery like it's candy).
Thank you!
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Before you reset anything try to fix your battery drain issue using my debloat it also can fix heat issues too methodhttps://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s7/how-to/samsung-galaxy-s7-debloat-att-t3569906
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My dad just went through this after a really bad Nougat experience.. He didn't find anything after an hour of research. There was one app that said it would do it, but after he flashed back to MM, the app said it couldn't restore the text messages.
You have root? If you did, you could use Titanium Backup
Solution to missing advanced messaging messages from text (sms) backups.
I've got a solution.
Try "legal text collector"
Worked for me and the dev was totally responsive, and helped fix a couple bugs the same day.
10k messages backed up!

Sms backup / database corrupted?

Hey i was having issues with texting today and couldn't pinpoint if it was tmobile or the fact I have over 20k in messages. On the phone with them all day and messages wouldn't send/ receive. Couple ppl said they sent me messages and never received.. Some test ones eventually came through.
Anyways, I had restored messages from a previous phone to this and now I went to do a backup like I normally would with Sms backup & restore and never had a issue. I look into the file saved and noticed that many of the messages aren't saved. I used the built in backup with Samsung cloud and restored on another galaxy phone..
Seems like since I got the phone not many messages saved. Would I have to format the messaging app to remove all messages and call it a loss at this point and start from scratch?
Sorry for the long message. Thank you in advance
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