So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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If you don't need more than 64GB then the OnePlus 3 is rocking it.
I need more and I'm on Verizon so it's not an option. I have a Nexus 6P that I've had since introduction and it's a great phone.
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So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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Looking for stock software updates and a good dev community? 6p. OP3 has notoriously slow updates.
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Looking for stock software updates and a good dev community? 6p. OP3 has notoriously slow updates.
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I'd agree with this.
Just seems the OP community isn't as strong with help as the Nexus community.
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I'd agree with this.
Just seems the OP community isn't as strong with help as the Nexus community.
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
N6p works on all american carriers.... OP3 only works on the GSM american providers... So choose wisely based on your provider
Other than that, both are fantastic phones with the N6P having the upper hand only because of software updates
I've had the 6p (gave to my son) and now own the OP3.
The OP3 community on XDA is quite good and there are several roms to choose from - no surprise as they are developer friendly. The official roms are behind somewhat, but I suppose that's to be expected.
Currently I'm running one of the Nougat roms (even though they have bugs with the video camera still) and am quite happy with the phone overall.
I would say that the OnePlus is the closest thing to a Nexus you will find. The build quality is good, and I'm loving the fingerprint sensor on the front where it should be.
I specifically bought this phone after I saw what was on offer from Google this year - overpriced, ugly phones.
Had a OP3 and traded it for the N6P. Can't go wrong with either phone, but if you're looking for the latest and greatest ROM wise, the N6P wins. OP3 dash charging is real and the file transfer speeds are crazy fast too. 6P was a better choice for me. The N roms on the OP3 aren't there yet. Camera quality is terrible for anything not based on the official roms. Screen size and front facing speakers were also a big factor for me.
To add to the discussion, the OnePlus 3 is a great overall phone for the price, and especially if you don't ever plan to update (as they are few and far between) it also doesn't have the overheating problems notorious of the 6P. However, the 6P will have faster updates and will most likely have a much longer life (in terms of development) than the OnePlus 3. They are both very comparable and you can't go wrong with either one.
Personally, I've played with both and like both, but I much prefer the 1440p panel of the 6P over the 1080p of the OP3.
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
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My only concern is that after a yeartor so the nexus 6p will be too slow
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
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Samsung delivered 6.0 update faster than OP and are on par with google with security updates
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My only concern is that after a yeartor so the nexus 6p will be too slow
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Why would it more than any other phone? Had mine since pretty much release.
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Samsung delivered 6.0 update faster than OP and are on par with google with security updates
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Samsung has some of the bloatiest Android bastardization out there. Not sure how this is a comparison of the 6p and OP3.
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I have the LG G3 for 2 years now and i am ordering right now the 6P.... OP3 i have to buy voor 400 euros, no option plus is has smaller screen i hate... definitly the development will be there for this device, i will just go with CM15 or CM16 if official firmware is not released over 1.5 years. LG G3 also gets nouget but only custom rom... and with the speed, i still like my G3, its still fast... i guess last few years speed isnt really a thing i guess, as also for ram. 3 or 4 gb is enough, i never go beyond 2.5 gb of ram use on my current phone. As i am not going to use daydream virtual reality or those things... i am pretty standard and dont game on my phone. I just love to flash and tweak a phone.
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Why would it more than any other phone? Had mine since pretty much release.
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Samsung has some of the bloatiest Android bastardization out there. Not sure how this is a comparison of the 6p and OP3.
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Yeah. If you have a carrier version. Intl is great with not that much bloat, alot use Sammy's brower. The other Microsoft stuff are just shortcuts to playstore and they take no space at all
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Yeah. If you have a carrier version. Intl is great with not that much bloat, alot use Sammy's brower. The other Microsoft stuff are just shortcuts to playstore and they take no space at all
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With the 6p, you're better off buying from Google directly, notwithstanding their announcement yesterday which seems to move away from supporting the Nexus line. As far as Sammy bloat, not only am I talking about awful Samsung specific apps, but also Touchwiz (which while better recently, is still a pretty bad launcher/skin experience), but also their attempts to make it far harder to customize your phone. I've had three different Galaxy phones and will never again go in that direction.
Again, this is pretty off-topic since the OP was asking to compare the 6p and OP3. My son has the latter and, while they have been somewhat slow to release firmware updates, the software experience is far more user-centered and it's much easier to customize them since they stuck closer to stock. In fact, I can use the same ADB/fastboot commands to unlock BL/flash/root for either the OP3 or 6p. Using your Sammy example, modding the phone is an absolute gongshow since you need Odin and it's almost impossible to do easily on a Mac.
I'm stuck between these two also, and don't want to wait until 2017 for the next Google thing.
The only reason I'm hesitant on the OnePlus 3 is because of the resolution and the fingerprint/button on the front, I hate phones that have something on the front like that.
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With the 6p, you're better off buying from Google directly, notwithstanding their announcement yesterday which seems to move away from supporting the Nexus line. As far as Sammy bloat, not only am I talking about awful Samsung specific apps, but also Touchwiz (which while better recently, is still a pretty bad launcher/skin experience), but also their attempts to make it far harder to customize your phone. I've had three different Galaxy phones and will never again go in that direction.
Again, this is pretty off-topic since the OP was asking to compare the 6p and OP3. My son has the latter and, while they have been somewhat slow to release firmware updates, the software experience is far more user-centered and it's much easier to customize them since they stuck closer to stock. In fact, I can use the same ADB/fastboot commands to unlock BL/flash/root for either the OP3 or 6p. Using your Sammy example, modding the phone is an absolute gongshow since you need Odin and it's almost impossible to do easily on a Mac.
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If you are after modding then sammy is out of question. Otherwise sammy is on top of the list
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If you are after modding then sammy is out of question. Otherwise sammy is on top of the list
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In other words you're in a completely unrelated thread and trolling about your love of Samsung, which is completely off-topic from the question posed here.
It's really hard to choose
The nexus 6p has a better screen,better camera ans better speaker
While the oneplus 3 just flies through every task and a faster fingerprint sensor
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It's really hard to choose
The nexus 6p has a better screen,better camera ans better speaker
While the oneplus 3 just flies through every task and a faster fingerprint sensor
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I don't see how that's a hard choice. Snappiness can be a matter of ROM, kernel, and many other adjustable stuff. The 6p pluses you list aren't really adjustable.
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With the release of the One plus 2 being anounced , it had me thinking if I would get one or not. I have/am been very happy with my OPO. I didn't have any yellowish banding or touch screen issues though that have been reported.
So.. If One plus offers the phone up for the same price as they did the ONE will you stay with OPO or jump off the wagon?
If their next device is 1. Solid Quality/Materials, 2. Cutting Edge at release/announce, 3. Sub 400 again. I'll get the next one.
I was backpacking when I got the call (invite) last august. Although their software leaves a bit to be desired, I'm running CM12 nightlies now and it's great.
I'll wait to see how well it's supported by CM nightlies. Since it won't have official CyanogenMod support and OnePlus hasn't proven its ability to make a decent stock ROM with its own resources, the 2 looks set to have great hardware & looks at a decent price but poor overall user experience.
It will come down to price for me. I was waiting for the news on the nexus 6 and was took back by the price and than came the oneplus! I will jump on OP2 if they offer solid specs at that price again. ROMs can be flashed..
Not a chance. I will gladly pay more for a well built, supported device.
I think that the One is a very good device. It's well supported by the community, we have some of the best kernel mantener. Also the device works nice, great battery, good camera, nice screen, and so..
I had nexus 4,g2 and g3 before this and I like the One more than this devices. Smoothness is better than nexus, battery is best than g2 and camera is at least on par with g3.The only thing I regret is that is huge compared to nexus 4. But we have to pay this for enjoying a 5.5" screen..
Definitely I would take mine for a year or so.
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I update my devices every 2 years, so if the follow-on to the OPO is out, of acceptable quality and customizable via CM then more than likely I will.
Possible. But probably not. I've been contemplating going back to my Nexus 5 for a little while now purely due to software.
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Possible. But probably not. I've been contemplating going back to my Nexus 5 for a little while now purely due to software.
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I tried that once, and shortly after that sold my N5. The OnePlus One has too many pluses over the N5 for me.
I love my One!!! It's a great device for little money. If the Oneplus Two comes with the same price I will buy it!
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Not a chance. I will gladly pay more for a well built, supported device.
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What he said....
Great phone but no support. Good luck if you have a problem (we are still fighting with customer service because 1 out of the 4 devices is defective)
+20% score in a few benchmarks are nothing when you're living a busy life, no way.
I like my OnePlus One. No problems. Great user community, that provides amazing support. So far so good.
If OP 2 comes only with Color OS or the OP OS, I'd say no. If it has factory installed CM (unlikely), it's a huge probably. Of course, we'll need to see what the phone actually will be first...and price. I have a feeling it will launch with Color OS or the OP OS which will make it a no. In that case, I'll be looking at the Oppo Find 9 and wait for CM or Liquid Smooth support before buying.
Nah, piss effect on bottom of the display was way annoying for my taste. I gave it to my wife she is the one of many that don't notice this. I got myself LG G2 I'm cool with it
OPT...I don't think so...
For me it's all about community support. I've always flashed AOSP based roms, mostly CM, due to the fact that all phones come with too much bloatware. I like having control of my device and if there's a new version of Android, I want to try it. I needed to get a new phone for work (read: inexpensive), and was thinking about the P7. Since there are no custom roms for it, I went for the OPO. I hope the conflict between CM and India doesn't lead to an abandonment of the OPO and that the xda devs keep working on it for a long time. I have a galaxy tab 10.1, which in hardware terms is pretty ancient, but thanks to xda, it's running Lollipop and frankly ... it's never run better. I love my OPO. The design is beautiful, I have no issues with the screen or any other things so it's great.
sure I will! looking forward to the 1+2
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Getting the one M9
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I'm seriously considering the 6P but it seems like all the features touted on the device are generally derived from Marshmallow. Sure it stacks rather well against other flagships right now but all the devices its going up against are running lollipop. When they get the Marshmallow features, will the 6P still match up or will they blow it out of the water?
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I'm seriously considering the 6P but it seems like all the features touted on the device are generally derived from Marshmallow. Sure it stacks rather well against other flagships right now but all the devices its going up against are running lollipop. When they get the Marshmallow features, will the 6P still match up or will they blow it out of the water?
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Depends. Remember that most phones won't be updated. The ones that will be uodated won't be for at least six months depending on the manufacturer. Some Android phones should be getting M in the next few weeks, but those are special cases and usually only for one sub-model at first. Truly the answer you seek has too many variables to consider.
Remember that Nexus devices are also meant as a pure android experience. Other manufacturers mod android so much it's not even the same experience.
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Depends. Remember that most phones won't be updated. The ones that will be uodated won't be for at least six months depending on the manufacturer. Some Android phones should be getting M in the next few weeks, but those are special cases and usually only for one sub-model at first. Truly the answer you seek has too many variables to consider.
Remember that Nexus devices are also meant as a pure android experience. Other manufacturers mod android so much it's not even the same experience.
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I don't have any issues with android skins (touchwiz at least), but I do have some kind of complex with 'futureproofing' and the like, since whatever phone I'm getting will be my phone for a while.
Ultimately, the decision still hasn't been made for me because I know the dev community for whatever product I might get outside the 6P on ATT will be dead since they love locking their bootloaders
Not exactly a feature but I consider having a different phone from most people a bonus. The Nexus will be a conversational piece around anyone who's remotely curious of tech.
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I don't have any issues with android skins (touchwiz at least), but I do have some kind of complex with 'futureproofing' and the like, since whatever phone I'm getting will be my phone for a while.
Ultimately, the decision still hasn't been made for me because I know the dev community for whatever product I might get outside the 6P on ATT will be dead since they love locking their bootloaders
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The one thing I've learned is that you can't future proof a phone. Manufacturers sole purpose is to make sure the phones are not future proof so they can sell you the update next year.
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It's a nexus. It will have Google support for 2 years and dev support past that. I'm pretty sure someone got kit kat running on the nexus 1. Pure android with always run smoothly even on an older nexus. So when the galaxy s7 rolls out next year your 6p might not get the best bench score it will still give better real world performance
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I really want to get this Moto X because I loved the 1st gen so much, but I feel like we will get screwed over when it's time for Android N and Android O. I'm not sure if I should go Moto X for the next two years or Nexus 6p. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 as my daily driver and I love the Nexus advantage man. Opinions?
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I really want to get this Moto X because I loved the 1st gen so much, but I feel like we will get screwed over when it's time for Android N and Android O. I'm not sure if I should go Moto X for the next two years or Nexus 6p. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 as my daily driver and I love the Nexus advantage man. Opinions?
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Nexus guaranteed. Any other phone its up in the air. If you really care about immediate updates and bug fixes then its nexus. If updated are secondary or you can wait then moto. Plus anything can happen.
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Nexus guaranteed. Any other phone its up in the air. If you really care about immediate updates and bug fixes then its nexus. If updated are secondary or you can wait then moto. Plus anything can happen.
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I don't see how anyone could not have the latest update right away. I get so excited for new features I can't sit back and watch. Motorola claimed to be able to send get updates out faster due to no carriers but that doesn't guarantee support for the coming years its depressing this just hit me.
Really your preference, they are both solid devices. The better performer is the 6p, the moto x is a pretty close second. There's really no evidence comparing the two devices just yet, if that matters to you then wait a few more days until YouTubers post some comparison videos so you can get a closer look. Motorola is usually a month behind nexus devices for updates, but remember they are two to three months faster than your typical Samsung, lg etc..
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Really your preference, they are both solid devices. The better performer is the 6p, the moto x is a pretty close second. There's really no evidence comparing the two devices just yet, if that matters to you then wait a few more days until YouTubers post some comparison videos so you can get a closer look. Motorola is usually a month behind nexus devices for updates, but remember they are two to three months faster than your typical Samsung, lg etc..
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This is exactly the reason I went with moto instead of nexus. I also use my sd card (64gb) which I can't use in a nexus. They both run stock Android and are the best contenders right now for quick updates. Anyone else is going to be lagging behind or left behind.
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I really want marshmallow right now because of the memory merge feature sdcard will become internal memory no need to separate things anymore.
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I really want marshmallow right now because of the memory merge feature sdcard will become internal memory no need to separate things anymore.
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Soon.
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Think we're forgetting the benefit of being able to unlock the bootloader and easily load ROMS with the MXPE. This will allow the unit to endure long past other limited phones that were not unlockable or rootable. Before the MXPE I owned a Note 3. And in the last month I installed a lollipop ROM that was side loadable and that really boosted its lifespan and useability. I owned that phone for two years which could easily have lengthened that useability to another year or better. I came pretty close to not even purchasing the MXPE due to this fact but I figured a unlocked BL phone along with the improved camera on the MXPE made it wise to upgrade at this time. Not too many phones anymore can be unlocked and that, to me, is a huge factor-allowing for future upgrades regardless what the carrier or Moto does.
Our bootloader is unlocked. Motorola has been good about releasing sources so far. We already have one or two ROMs for our device. I'm waiting for CM official to be released, personally. I think the chances of us getting these updates are decent, at least from the community development standpoint. Officially, I'm a little concerned beyond M, but I won't be staying on stock that much longer.
But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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Well...not all new versions of operating systems are better than their predecessors... ie. Windows 8.
Now I am one who usually is a bleeding-edge technology user but with that comes the whole bugs issue. There are those who are a bit more conservative. These guys do not mind waiting for a more perfected solution. You sound like you are a bleeding-edge kind of guy and that is a very frustrating position to be in when there is something new and you can not have it due to your choice of phone/manufacturer. In that case I feel your pain. But for me the MXPE seems to be the the best balance in the regard.
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But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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I bought this phone rather than a Nexus because of its SD. That's more important to me than waiting a month or two for M. Now, if a new Android version drops in a year and Moto denies MXPE owners the upgrade, I'll grit my teeth and think about moving back to Samsung. I'll admit, it would shock me though...
<rant>Headslap for Googler who nixed SD for the Nexus. Stupid.</rant>
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Prepare ur UHS-II card.
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In my honest opinion I don't think Motorola will abandon this device, they have put a lot of emphasis on their definition of the word "pure" and what it entails. Also, like a few people have stated, you can significantly increase the lifespan by easily unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms. Once cyanogenmod rolls out a stable release they are usually followed by nightly updates, literally almost every night for a long, long time. My LG G2 has been getting nightly updates since 2013.
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In my honest opinion I don't think Motorola will abandon this device, they have put a lot of emphasis on their definition of the word "pure" and what it entails. Also, like a few people have stated, you can significantly increase the lifespan by easily unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms. Once cyanogenmod rolls out a stable release they are usually followed by nightly updates, literally almost every night for a long, long time. My LG G2 has been getting nightly updates since 2013.
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It's all fun cool until their new flagship comes out. We'll see how they treat the 2014 Pure edition.
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It's all fun cool until their new flagship comes out. We'll see how they treat the 2014 Pure edition.
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This was the driving point for me leaving Samsung after the s3. Samsung would not even push any otas of the newest version of Android until their newest flagship with that update was released and had enough time in the light. They also hardly updated it to the newest version of touchwiz that the new flagship had, almost forcing those users to upgrade to get those features.
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This was the driving point for me leaving Samsung after the s3. Samsung would not even push any otas of the newest version of Android until their newest flagship with that update was released and had enough time in the light. They also hardly updated it to the newest version of touchwiz that the new flagship had, almost forcing those users to upgrade to get those features.
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EXACTLY and to think... Carriers expected us to keep a phone for 2 years at that time.
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This depends on the version I am left with. My G2 was left on a very buggy version Lollipop. I elected to stay on KitKat due to better battery life and overall better performance of the phone. I like to be on the latest version if it is better but am satisfied staying on an older version if it does everything I need. Granted, I am not a gamer and use my phone mostly for voice calls, emails, Tapatalk, web surfing as needed, and text messages.
None of the Android phones are getting updates on a schedule sufficient to come anywhere close to mitigating security vulnerabilities. Not even Nexus. Most phones are likely infected with malware, even Nexus. All it takes is one of hundreds of infected apps, still up for download from the Google Play Store.
This aspect of the Android ecosystem is shameful. Evidently, there is not enough money in the business model to do a good job at this. Google made a big PR release promising better updates for all including cheap Android One devices, and ratcheted the promises up further after the first Stagefright exploit hit the news, and what really came of all the promises? Not much. A little better update performance for the few big names already known for better (but still pathetic) update performance.
So since security is already nonexistent, and updates will never resolve that, the only remaining reason to care is fault corrections (aka bug fixes) and features/support. The XT1575 is not perfect but it does OK in those two categories for me at 5.1.1, no worse than other phones I've had. I'll take an OTA to get LTE Band 12 /VoLTE when it comes, but otherwise don't see a compelling reason to care much about updates since the security vulns are going to be there anyway, and updates always introduce at least as many faults as they fix.
As for long-term support: This whole thing converges on a 2 year life cycle. You run into rapidly diminishing returns after that, it's not worth it to keep the phone going after 2 years. (Spent a lot of time and money keeping phones going past 2 years, believe me it's not worth it, chunk it and get a new one after 2 years.) So who cares if updates stop somewhere after a year?
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I don't see how anyone could not have the latest update right away. I get so excited for new features I can't sit back and watch. Motorola claimed to be able to send get updates out faster due to no carriers but that doesn't guarantee support for the coming years its depressing this just hit me.
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I don't jump on the newest Android versions immediately, for two reasons.
1). Compatibility issues.
For example, you have a new major version of Android out that changes the way some UI elements are displayed. Not every app you have installed will be updated to support that on day 1. A fully-functional-but-slightly-older phone beats a bleeding-edge-mostly-functional phone.
2). You lose root.
This isn't an issue on an unlocked bootloader phone like the MXPE. But to date, most Android phones have locked bootloaders, and only got root through discovering some exploit. A new version of Android means potentially losing root, and potentially requiring the dev community to find another exploit to gain root. A rooted-but-slightly-older phone beats an unrooted-and-carrier-bloatware-loaded phone.
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I'm tired of this planned obselesence bull. It has the same exact camera. If I don't see high bitrate 4k, 60fps 1080p, and manual video control I'm done. Furthermore, I better not see any UI improvements that won't be present on the G4 in a near future time.
If they do any of this nonsense on a year old, marketed, FLAGship, I'm finished. At that point I'll know the path they are taking with their phones and what they think of their consumers.
I see what you mean but we live in such system, now more than ever, programmed obsolesence is the first reason phone's are sold. We can't do nothing really, what we can do is stopping buying but no one will do that because for one that not buy there are millions that buy, try to port features or just use alternative apps.
Yep, then don't buy. Vote with your wallet, eventually these companies would understand why their sales are dropping. I've already sold my LG G4
I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
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I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
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6p too here soon, hopefully.
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Marshmallow. Soon a **** load of roms
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Hmmm.. An open conversation between developer and consumer? At least with Google, you KNOW you have at least a year before they will release their next flagship. I bought the G4 and LITERALLY the next day the V10 leaks started! Also... frequent updates without carrier bs (I'll never forget the update I got on my last phone.. when everyone else was getting Lollipop, AT&T pushed out an update that installed UBER and AT&T Live on my damn phone lol). The Nexus will have a vibrant developer community that isn't hobbled by locked bootloaders and carrier restrictions, and a Fingerprint scanner to name a few. But, the G4 does have some features that I don't think you'll find on the 6p! Namely, horrible touch-screen response, lag that appears out of nowhere, a plastic back that can get so hot I'd swear it was metal. Sorry for the pessimism but this is only my 2nd Android phone and I'm batting 0/2 as my first was the AT&T variant of the Galaxy S5 (RIP Safestrap!) and I'm done with this crap lol. As soon as possible, I'm hitching my horse to a Nexus and never looking back! PS I forgot! The 6P has that giant Cyclops eye on it's backend! Also, having said all that, the developers that are working here on the G4 are amazing! The fact that they've been able to do what they have despite the restrictions is awesome!
I will definitely miss the manual camera, I think LG did a great job with that, and I'm disappointed that Google has not included manual settings in the stock camera. But there are other manual camera apps for that. I've been hunting down camera comparison shots for weeks, looking to see that the 6P can hold it's own, and I'm confident in all the test shots I've found. It's less a question on what the 6P has than what it DOESN'T have. I have reached the end of my patience with the bad performance of the G4 that I'm willing to lose some (if any) camera quality to gain stability and reliability. It's true that you gain a thriving development community with Nexus, but the development on the G4 didn't bother me to begin with. I'm perfectly happy with just root! It's a shame, because I had a G3 which I loved.
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I've said this for years xD I'm no longer buy Apple devices or Samsung devices. I'm only left with LG, Sony and the smaller brands. Haha.
Every company does this, so, if this happens now, I won't have another LG. These companies just keep trying to sell more and more phones every year.
I'm also crossed that LG doesn't allow longer exposures for third party apps so you don't have 30 sec. exposure times.
I must say that from all the brands. I was the most satisfied with HTC. (had One M7). Good updates, has google play edition. Awesome policy. Too bad that when G4 came out you really didn't have a good camera phone except it and S6.
Too bad, the companies are shifting to this practice. As @Mad_Duke said the HTC M7 was the phone I liked the most (except for the camera). For the past 1,5 years I owned Sony (Z3), OnePlus (One), Samsung (S6/920F) and now the G4. I have to say that Oneplus was the most satisfying overall. All big names are unfortunately doing their own practices to sell more phones. Sony was slow at releasing 5.0 (and when it got released it was a "crippled" update), Samsung puts too much bloat and do not release the full documents for the Exynos, thus the development is slow. So far LG is kind of OK, at least you can flash some of the updated apps. However, if you want the fastest and most developed phones, you have to go with Nexus (or OnePlus like) devices.
I kinda expected manual camera for g3 when g4 came out. However, seeing a reality of thos bussiness I can see why they need to constantly shell out new products and plan the software obsolence of the older ones - because market (all of us) demands it. We need new models, company just cant sell same phone for 2 years and just shell out the updates (even with nexus5 we started demanding new models).
Vallet voting, just that.
I hope your post is a joke!
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
So what are we talking about?
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
What a stupid thread
I have had marshmallow since day one ableit custom rom
Unlocked bootloader h815
Lg are a business in a cut throat market with so much choice for the consumer
You cannot live without the extra features? Wow lol
Imho its the best phone of 2015
Wow... just wow. Some of you guys are expecting waaay to much. It's not like other companies/phones bring all the latest **** to their older phones. The V10 has extra hardware to make some of the new video features work, so no, you probably won't get these features.
Also, LG is the first non-nexus to update to marshmallow but for some this still isn't fast enough. They offer fine support for this phone, realize normal consumers don't care if updates like these take longer (see Samsung) but LG is offering it way faster anyway.
The G4 looks very attractive right now.
The v10 is bigger, in size. Great video if you need it.
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tinkerers get bored when there is nothing left to tinker with
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
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S6 still does not have shutter control in the UI, the s6e+ & note 5 which came out only 3 months later have it.
S6 has raw and shutter in the api so if you use a 3rd party app you can use it but everybody wants to do this in the stock app.
The Z5 has shutter control, still no raw. Previous xperias have no shutter control because companies lock down the camera api to the point that the only reliable camera app you can use is the stock one.
So what are we talking about?
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he basically wants out and is trying to find a pretext, not necessary.
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
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not really, the 930 languished for a couple of years after it launched. Its successor is two years late, the 950 but the OS is difficult to deal with without google services integration.
its true nokia camera interface is ahead of the curve and is available even on budget devices. But OIS, lens, bigger sensor and image processing requires more cpu is only present on higher end models. The 830 has ois. The 1020 can't do 4k.
G4 has been a POS since day one with the exception of the fantastic camera. I cannot believe that ppl are still here when you got phones like the Note 5 and 6P on the market. A removable battery and SD card slot does not solve lag and touchscreen issues....
I've had this phone about 3 months now and thought it was going to be good in the dev community but as im seeing now it seems all dev for this phone is dead or dying, so what hope is there that we will have any roms or new mods for this phone?Yes i understand about the locked bootloader but i was looking at the note 7 forum and they have roms for there phone and the note 7 came out after the 7 edge? i would just like to know in everyone's opinion should we be waiting and hoping for someone to break the codes and unlock our phones true potential or just shut my mouth and sit back and take what i've got and be happy with it. Don't get me wrong i commend the Echoe rom team and all the hard work they did for us and that should not be overlooked. All im saying is what do we need to get this phone poppin like all the other phones ?
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I guess all we could do is hang on to this one and trade it in or sell it when the S8 comes out and maybe we won't get screwed on the next model.
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
If you're looking for a mod friendly device, you should look elsewhere. With a locked bootloader, you're not going to get much dev support. Having said that, I would say that the future of this phone is bright. I can honestly say that I see no reason for me to mess with the system. It's excellent as it is.
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I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The Google pixel will be a joke. You'll see iphone 7 Will be years ahead of it. And I'm a android guy
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Yea, hate to say it, but Google should stick to making software. Either that, or actually develop the production capacity to do your own manufacturing or at least quality control, instead of farming it out to random Chinese manufacturers. My only experience with Nexus is the Nexus 5, but that device was awful. In fact, I can't think of a single redeeming quality of that device.
I'm selling mine and going back to the Note 4
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I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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yeah. I'm thinking about the OnePlus 3, the support for that phone seems very good. Plus it is not too expensive. I wonder what my options are for switching phones, I don't think T Mobile will take back my phone and stop charging me my monthly device installment.
Yeah, I think you have to wait a bit more to be eligible for jump
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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I've been a nexus user since the Nexus 5 launched. and a CM user for years before then. the S7 edge is my first Samsung device (and only because I got it for free), because I have always felt the same way about Samsung as I do about apple. all hype, all trend, ignorant (non-power-user) fanbase. Samsung is literally the apple of Android, if you know what I mean. I'll never own another Samsung device after this one.
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Typically LG doesn't lock their bootloaders, and since its going to be the same phone internationally its dev community may be loads better.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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Goodness no. If you root and just care about speed, battery and custom rom options on android 6/touchwiz (and don't care about US warranty support), I would say yes.
If you care about warranty support, want an unrooted phone (or the ability to root without tripping Knox), want to use Samsung Pay or like T-mobile's financing options, The US model is definitely the one. It also has more upside
Long Term, Samsung's Android 7 may see a boot-loader unlock option, which would jump start CM/kernel development (cutting the performance gap between the phones and giving people who like Samsung's industrial design but not their software design a good solution). Next month, there will be Nexus phones running SD820, which will continue the advantage Qualcomm based roms have in custom development.
I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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i hope you are right i hate to get a new phone i really like my S7 Edge
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I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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The only fact here is that nobody really knows what may or may not happen. Wishful thinking is one thing, but it is far from fact.
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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The Nexus 5 was an awful device, with awful battery life, awful display, awful speaker, and awful camera. It was quick with stock Android, but it literally had no other redeeming qualities. Mine has been used as a paperweight, to keep papers from flying off my desk when my windows is open. I am not joking. I will take an Apple device over the Nexus 5 any day, and I can't stand Apple. And yes, I have an Apple device too. I have not had any other Nexus devices, and probably never will. Samsung devices have treated me very well over the years so I am sticking with them. And honestly, the GS7 is an excellent device all around, I couldn't care less about a locked bootloader. The days of spending hours/days flashing ROMs are behind me. I have more important things to do with my free time. So before you go off and make blanket statements such as "we don't know what we are doing," consider the fact that some of us don't share the same interests as you. The majority of the world wants a device that works out of the box and doesn't know what a bootloader is, much less that it can be locked or unlocked. You, and this community, are a tiny minority of smartphone users. And guess what, there are companies that cater to you as well. Don't be pissed at Samsung for delivering what their customers wanted.