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Currently I have an iPhone 3GS. It's served me well for the last year and 3/4 but its starting to show its age. Really I just want to know if I show go and buy a nexus 4 now or should I wait for something like the note 2 to come down in price? Any help in answer this question would be good.
Noobven said:
Currently I have an iPhone 3GS. It's served me well for the last year and 3/4 but its starting to show its age. Really I just want to know if I show go and buy a nexus 4 now or should I wait for something like the note 2 to come down in price? Any help in answer this question would be good.
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I'd get the Nexus 4 now, it just depends how long you are willing to wait.
It depends on your budget. If you waited this long I don't see why you can't wait to see what phones are released later in the summer.
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Well I've only really been looking this month. My main concern is the longevity of the nexus 4 as I read that is slowly being outdated without being a year old( but seeing as my phone is 3 it shouldn't really concern me). And as for my budget I'm looking for the best that is around $400-$500
If you're budget conscious and think you would enjoy the stock Android experience, I say go for it. If you take excellent care of your phone you can always sell it for a good amount on eBay or Craigslist and use that money to buy an upcoming phone should it appeal to you more.
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If you're budget conscious and think you would enjoy the stock Android experience, I say go for it. If you take excellent care of your phone you can always sell it for a good amount on eBay or Craigslist and use that money to buy an upcoming phone should it appeal to you more.
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I'm kinda new to the android market. I've got a transformer pad tf300. Could you explain what's the difference between that and the stock android experience. Is one better than the other. Or could you link me to somewhere I could find this information.
Noobven said:
Well I've only really been looking this month. My main concern is the longevity of the nexus 4 as I read that is slowly being outdated without being a year old( but seeing as my phone is 3 it shouldn't really concern me). And as for my budget I'm looking for the best that is around $400-$500
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Idk where you read that but the Nexus 4 is about to receive 4.3 and will more than likely receive 5.0 later this year. The Nexus 4 has a lot of life left in it. Even after Google stops official support I'm sure the dev community will keep it going a while longer.
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Noobven said:
I'm kinda new to the android market. I've got a transformer pad tf300. Could you explain what's the difference between that and the stock android experience. Is one better than the other. Or could you link me to somewhere I could find this information.
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I've never used Transformer before but I believe it runs a slightly skinned version of Android? In any case you can look up YouTube videos of the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7 to see what stock Android is like.
It's debated (of course) but most of the Android devotees enjoy "stock/vanilla" Android, which basically means it's Android as it comes from Google. OEMs like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and others all put their own custom skins on it. They often add features that stock Android doesn't have (some useful, some gimmicky) but the general consensus is that the skins bog down the phone and that loss in performance outweighs the extra bells and whistles you get.
Being that you're an iOS user, think of it in these terms--a Nexus device is the closest thing to an iPhone for Android. I mean this in the sense that when Google releases a new version of Android, you get it quickly after it's release. Just like you do when Apple pushes an iOS update. If you had say a Samsung Galaxy S4 and were anxious for Android 5.0, you'd have to wait at least a few months for Samsung to rework their Touchwiz UI over the new Android 5.0 and send out an update.
Given your budget, I would totally recommend the Nexus 4. You'll even have some extra cash to spend on some great accessories to keep it nice and safe--in case you do decide to sell it for something coming in the next year.
Hope this helps.
The only reasons to wait would be the release of the x phone or the next nexus. As we don't know if the x phone will be worth it, and the nexus 5 isn't even announced yet (don't forget the time it took to get the phone on stock..2 or 3 month after release), I'd say get the Nexus 4 and be happy.
I bought my N4 last week and I advice you to buy it
I am normally a buy now type of guy.
But I would wait to the moto x announcement. And at least see if the tumours are true.
One of the biggest things about a nexus device is that is unlocked and off contract.
If the moto x is going to be available for 299 of contract and their is a device for your carrier of choice, that would also be a tempting deal. Decent specs and lte and a good price. I don't really believe that rumor but I would at least wait til find out. It's only a week away.
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The only reasons to wait would be the release of the x phone or the next nexus. As we don't know if the x phone will be worth it, and the nexus 5 isn't even announced yet (don't forget the time it took to get the phone on stock..2 or 3 month after release), I'd say get the Nexus 4 and be happy.
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Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster. Plus it's a Nexus phone so therefore, it will have the latest updates. Moto x will still require carrier approval most likely.
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Buy it.
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zephiK said:
Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster. Plus it's a Nexus phone so therefore, it will have the latest updates. Moto x will still require carrier approval most likely.
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Not worth it? You don't even know the price. Nor do you know the network the user is on. I assume if he is from the states he is on att. That alone could easily push somebody to a moto x phone on that network for lte over their crap 3g.
Specs don't mean crap. Benchmarks don't mean crap. In no usage case with the nexus 4 be a lot faster. In fact it the moto x should be faster in day to day use. It won't be slower.
The op didn't mention a thing about getting updates and doesn't even know what the stock experience is and so on.
If he wants to spend up to 500 on a phone he could also consider dropping that for a oppo. And that phone is old and still worth that price.
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Moto x not worth it. It's a dual core phone and not even 1080p. The only thing better for the Moto x over the n4 is probably the camera. Spec wise, n4 is a lot faster
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The problem with some android users is that they measure everything according to hardware, i call this the samsung mentality, "pump in the latest and greatest hardware, it will look good on paper, who cares about user experience" . No wonder the S4 has a lot of problems and as they call it over there (on their xda forums) "unoptimized software yet". Doesn't sound nice for a >650$ device.
I'm not a fan of Apple or any of it's products, but comparing the hardware/performance of the iphone5 vs galaxy S4 , as sad as it sounds, the my-little-pony-phone destroys that S4 in all fields even with inferior hardware.
So don't put the Moto X on ignore list just yet, i'm sure those 2 cores are going to be more than enough for one of the best android user experiences, and the lack of 1080p display is there for a reason. And finally don't forget that rumors say it's going to be an affordable phone targeting a wider crowd than, let's say, the nexus line.
An average non tech savvy individual doesn't care about which hardware the device rocks, they only care about the overall user experience, and the Moto X might provide just that.
I don't think the N4 will be outdated anytime soon for me at least, but I guess it depends on your needs. The biggest downside to N4 (for me) is the lack of external SD and LTE. If you feel these features are important to you in the near future, I would wait. If not, I would buy.
I bought one last wed. The Dev community is huge for the device and will be for along time. Pricing and hardware is awesome, not to mention I think its still one of the best looking phones. I say go for it.
Cheers, J.
I bought the N4 recently and I'd say wait for the moto x. It's just a week more and I think it's better looking than the nexus. Hardware specs are not that important. If you don't like it you can still get the nexus later.
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I really want to get this Moto X because I loved the 1st gen so much, but I feel like we will get screwed over when it's time for Android N and Android O. I'm not sure if I should go Moto X for the next two years or Nexus 6p. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 as my daily driver and I love the Nexus advantage man. Opinions?
Prestige_DOPE said:
I really want to get this Moto X because I loved the 1st gen so much, but I feel like we will get screwed over when it's time for Android N and Android O. I'm not sure if I should go Moto X for the next two years or Nexus 6p. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 as my daily driver and I love the Nexus advantage man. Opinions?
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Nexus guaranteed. Any other phone its up in the air. If you really care about immediate updates and bug fixes then its nexus. If updated are secondary or you can wait then moto. Plus anything can happen.
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Nexus guaranteed. Any other phone its up in the air. If you really care about immediate updates and bug fixes then its nexus. If updated are secondary or you can wait then moto. Plus anything can happen.
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I don't see how anyone could not have the latest update right away. I get so excited for new features I can't sit back and watch. Motorola claimed to be able to send get updates out faster due to no carriers but that doesn't guarantee support for the coming years its depressing this just hit me.
Really your preference, they are both solid devices. The better performer is the 6p, the moto x is a pretty close second. There's really no evidence comparing the two devices just yet, if that matters to you then wait a few more days until YouTubers post some comparison videos so you can get a closer look. Motorola is usually a month behind nexus devices for updates, but remember they are two to three months faster than your typical Samsung, lg etc..
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Really your preference, they are both solid devices. The better performer is the 6p, the moto x is a pretty close second. There's really no evidence comparing the two devices just yet, if that matters to you then wait a few more days until YouTubers post some comparison videos so you can get a closer look. Motorola is usually a month behind nexus devices for updates, but remember they are two to three months faster than your typical Samsung, lg etc..
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This is exactly the reason I went with moto instead of nexus. I also use my sd card (64gb) which I can't use in a nexus. They both run stock Android and are the best contenders right now for quick updates. Anyone else is going to be lagging behind or left behind.
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I really want marshmallow right now because of the memory merge feature sdcard will become internal memory no need to separate things anymore.
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I really want marshmallow right now because of the memory merge feature sdcard will become internal memory no need to separate things anymore.
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Soon.
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Think we're forgetting the benefit of being able to unlock the bootloader and easily load ROMS with the MXPE. This will allow the unit to endure long past other limited phones that were not unlockable or rootable. Before the MXPE I owned a Note 3. And in the last month I installed a lollipop ROM that was side loadable and that really boosted its lifespan and useability. I owned that phone for two years which could easily have lengthened that useability to another year or better. I came pretty close to not even purchasing the MXPE due to this fact but I figured a unlocked BL phone along with the improved camera on the MXPE made it wise to upgrade at this time. Not too many phones anymore can be unlocked and that, to me, is a huge factor-allowing for future upgrades regardless what the carrier or Moto does.
Our bootloader is unlocked. Motorola has been good about releasing sources so far. We already have one or two ROMs for our device. I'm waiting for CM official to be released, personally. I think the chances of us getting these updates are decent, at least from the community development standpoint. Officially, I'm a little concerned beyond M, but I won't be staying on stock that much longer.
But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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Well...not all new versions of operating systems are better than their predecessors... ie. Windows 8.
Now I am one who usually is a bleeding-edge technology user but with that comes the whole bugs issue. There are those who are a bit more conservative. These guys do not mind waiting for a more perfected solution. You sound like you are a bleeding-edge kind of guy and that is a very frustrating position to be in when there is something new and you can not have it due to your choice of phone/manufacturer. In that case I feel your pain. But for me the MXPE seems to be the the best balance in the regard.
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But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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I bought this phone rather than a Nexus because of its SD. That's more important to me than waiting a month or two for M. Now, if a new Android version drops in a year and Moto denies MXPE owners the upgrade, I'll grit my teeth and think about moving back to Samsung. I'll admit, it would shock me though...
<rant>Headslap for Googler who nixed SD for the Nexus. Stupid.</rant>
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I really want marshmallow right now because of the memory merge feature sdcard will become internal memory no need to separate things anymore.
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Prepare ur UHS-II card.
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In my honest opinion I don't think Motorola will abandon this device, they have put a lot of emphasis on their definition of the word "pure" and what it entails. Also, like a few people have stated, you can significantly increase the lifespan by easily unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms. Once cyanogenmod rolls out a stable release they are usually followed by nightly updates, literally almost every night for a long, long time. My LG G2 has been getting nightly updates since 2013.
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In my honest opinion I don't think Motorola will abandon this device, they have put a lot of emphasis on their definition of the word "pure" and what it entails. Also, like a few people have stated, you can significantly increase the lifespan by easily unlocking the bootloader and installing custom roms. Once cyanogenmod rolls out a stable release they are usually followed by nightly updates, literally almost every night for a long, long time. My LG G2 has been getting nightly updates since 2013.
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It's all fun cool until their new flagship comes out. We'll see how they treat the 2014 Pure edition.
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It's all fun cool until their new flagship comes out. We'll see how they treat the 2014 Pure edition.
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This was the driving point for me leaving Samsung after the s3. Samsung would not even push any otas of the newest version of Android until their newest flagship with that update was released and had enough time in the light. They also hardly updated it to the newest version of touchwiz that the new flagship had, almost forcing those users to upgrade to get those features.
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This was the driving point for me leaving Samsung after the s3. Samsung would not even push any otas of the newest version of Android until their newest flagship with that update was released and had enough time in the light. They also hardly updated it to the newest version of touchwiz that the new flagship had, almost forcing those users to upgrade to get those features.
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EXACTLY and to think... Carriers expected us to keep a phone for 2 years at that time.
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But how do you guys feel on staying on a older version of Android when the new one gets released? Does it bother you any?
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This depends on the version I am left with. My G2 was left on a very buggy version Lollipop. I elected to stay on KitKat due to better battery life and overall better performance of the phone. I like to be on the latest version if it is better but am satisfied staying on an older version if it does everything I need. Granted, I am not a gamer and use my phone mostly for voice calls, emails, Tapatalk, web surfing as needed, and text messages.
None of the Android phones are getting updates on a schedule sufficient to come anywhere close to mitigating security vulnerabilities. Not even Nexus. Most phones are likely infected with malware, even Nexus. All it takes is one of hundreds of infected apps, still up for download from the Google Play Store.
This aspect of the Android ecosystem is shameful. Evidently, there is not enough money in the business model to do a good job at this. Google made a big PR release promising better updates for all including cheap Android One devices, and ratcheted the promises up further after the first Stagefright exploit hit the news, and what really came of all the promises? Not much. A little better update performance for the few big names already known for better (but still pathetic) update performance.
So since security is already nonexistent, and updates will never resolve that, the only remaining reason to care is fault corrections (aka bug fixes) and features/support. The XT1575 is not perfect but it does OK in those two categories for me at 5.1.1, no worse than other phones I've had. I'll take an OTA to get LTE Band 12 /VoLTE when it comes, but otherwise don't see a compelling reason to care much about updates since the security vulns are going to be there anyway, and updates always introduce at least as many faults as they fix.
As for long-term support: This whole thing converges on a 2 year life cycle. You run into rapidly diminishing returns after that, it's not worth it to keep the phone going after 2 years. (Spent a lot of time and money keeping phones going past 2 years, believe me it's not worth it, chunk it and get a new one after 2 years.) So who cares if updates stop somewhere after a year?
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I don't see how anyone could not have the latest update right away. I get so excited for new features I can't sit back and watch. Motorola claimed to be able to send get updates out faster due to no carriers but that doesn't guarantee support for the coming years its depressing this just hit me.
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I don't jump on the newest Android versions immediately, for two reasons.
1). Compatibility issues.
For example, you have a new major version of Android out that changes the way some UI elements are displayed. Not every app you have installed will be updated to support that on day 1. A fully-functional-but-slightly-older phone beats a bleeding-edge-mostly-functional phone.
2). You lose root.
This isn't an issue on an unlocked bootloader phone like the MXPE. But to date, most Android phones have locked bootloaders, and only got root through discovering some exploit. A new version of Android means potentially losing root, and potentially requiring the dev community to find another exploit to gain root. A rooted-but-slightly-older phone beats an unrooted-and-carrier-bloatware-loaded phone.
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I've had this phone about 3 months now and thought it was going to be good in the dev community but as im seeing now it seems all dev for this phone is dead or dying, so what hope is there that we will have any roms or new mods for this phone?Yes i understand about the locked bootloader but i was looking at the note 7 forum and they have roms for there phone and the note 7 came out after the 7 edge? i would just like to know in everyone's opinion should we be waiting and hoping for someone to break the codes and unlock our phones true potential or just shut my mouth and sit back and take what i've got and be happy with it. Don't get me wrong i commend the Echoe rom team and all the hard work they did for us and that should not be overlooked. All im saying is what do we need to get this phone poppin like all the other phones ?
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I guess all we could do is hang on to this one and trade it in or sell it when the S8 comes out and maybe we won't get screwed on the next model.
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
If you're looking for a mod friendly device, you should look elsewhere. With a locked bootloader, you're not going to get much dev support. Having said that, I would say that the future of this phone is bright. I can honestly say that I see no reason for me to mess with the system. It's excellent as it is.
slayerh4x said:
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The Google pixel will be a joke. You'll see iphone 7 Will be years ahead of it. And I'm a android guy
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Yea, hate to say it, but Google should stick to making software. Either that, or actually develop the production capacity to do your own manufacturing or at least quality control, instead of farming it out to random Chinese manufacturers. My only experience with Nexus is the Nexus 5, but that device was awful. In fact, I can't think of a single redeeming quality of that device.
I'm selling mine and going back to the Note 4
slayerh4x said:
I was thinking about trading it for one of the new Google Pixel XL phones, but they aren't going to have an SD slot. I think I am still going to trade it for something else though... having a hard time figuring out what I want that's comparable.
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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The V20 seems like a nice alternative
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yeah. I'm thinking about the OnePlus 3, the support for that phone seems very good. Plus it is not too expensive. I wonder what my options are for switching phones, I don't think T Mobile will take back my phone and stop charging me my monthly device installment.
Yeah, I think you have to wait a bit more to be eligible for jump
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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I've been a nexus user since the Nexus 5 launched. and a CM user for years before then. the S7 edge is my first Samsung device (and only because I got it for free), because I have always felt the same way about Samsung as I do about apple. all hype, all trend, ignorant (non-power-user) fanbase. Samsung is literally the apple of Android, if you know what I mean. I'll never own another Samsung device after this one.
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Do you think the bootloader will be unlocked? I'm still kinda new to Android and the first recent one I got was this S7 Edge. The V20 does look really nice though, hope it is released soon.
I also like the HTC 10 because there is a ton of stuff for it. The Viper rom looks awesome, pretty crazy they have OTA updates for the rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
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Typically LG doesn't lock their bootloaders, and since its going to be the same phone internationally its dev community may be loads better.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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A few developments in the last month:
Unified 935U based roms - This will be great as the unification of US rom development (and the ability to have VOLTE) will make life better for US S7 users as they will have the newest rom of the 5 options running.
Note 7 release: The Note 7's UI seems better (samsung has already started promised to unify the UI in android 7) and the rom has been ported (same chipset).
Enhanced T-mobile Support on international models: Wifi calling/Volte has now been ported to the International (935F) model, at least if rooted. I switched as the Exynos version is faster and has better battery life (and the gap is greater in rooted versions than stock) and a stronger development community including Note 7 ports.
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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so we should all get the Exynos version and call it a day is what you saying then ?
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Goodness no. If you root and just care about speed, battery and custom rom options on android 6/touchwiz (and don't care about US warranty support), I would say yes.
If you care about warranty support, want an unrooted phone (or the ability to root without tripping Knox), want to use Samsung Pay or like T-mobile's financing options, The US model is definitely the one. It also has more upside
Long Term, Samsung's Android 7 may see a boot-loader unlock option, which would jump start CM/kernel development (cutting the performance gap between the phones and giving people who like Samsung's industrial design but not their software design a good solution). Next month, there will be Nexus phones running SD820, which will continue the advantage Qualcomm based roms have in custom development.
I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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i hope you are right i hate to get a new phone i really like my S7 Edge
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I'm going to be patient. This is a book I've read before. The fact is that the S7 edge will have the bootloader unlocked eventually.
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The only fact here is that nobody really knows what may or may not happen. Wishful thinking is one thing, but it is far from fact.
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Andromendous said:
Wow you guys amaze me, I guess if it isnt made out of glass and metal with diamonds on it then its not worthy for you. I've had the nexus 5, 6 and 2013 7, and although this is a nice phone. Id take the functionality and stability of a nexus any day. You do not know what you are talking about if you really think this phone or an iphone is worlds ahead of a nexus. Yeah, the nexus 5 was cheap feeling, it was $350 brand new, and it was the most reliable phone I've ever had. And I've had a couple iphones, you guys either don't know what your doing or got a bad device.
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The Nexus 5 was an awful device, with awful battery life, awful display, awful speaker, and awful camera. It was quick with stock Android, but it literally had no other redeeming qualities. Mine has been used as a paperweight, to keep papers from flying off my desk when my windows is open. I am not joking. I will take an Apple device over the Nexus 5 any day, and I can't stand Apple. And yes, I have an Apple device too. I have not had any other Nexus devices, and probably never will. Samsung devices have treated me very well over the years so I am sticking with them. And honestly, the GS7 is an excellent device all around, I couldn't care less about a locked bootloader. The days of spending hours/days flashing ROMs are behind me. I have more important things to do with my free time. So before you go off and make blanket statements such as "we don't know what we are doing," consider the fact that some of us don't share the same interests as you. The majority of the world wants a device that works out of the box and doesn't know what a bootloader is, much less that it can be locked or unlocked. You, and this community, are a tiny minority of smartphone users. And guess what, there are companies that cater to you as well. Don't be pissed at Samsung for delivering what their customers wanted.
So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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If you don't need more than 64GB then the OnePlus 3 is rocking it.
I need more and I'm on Verizon so it's not an option. I have a Nexus 6P that I've had since introduction and it's a great phone.
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So I'm looking phone that would last me at least 2 years and I can't decide what phone should I get the oneplus 3 or nexus 6p. So which is better for long term (especially that oneplus 3 will get nougat really fast because of custom roms)
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Looking for stock software updates and a good dev community? 6p. OP3 has notoriously slow updates.
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Looking for stock software updates and a good dev community? 6p. OP3 has notoriously slow updates.
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I'd agree with this.
Just seems the OP community isn't as strong with help as the Nexus community.
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I'd agree with this.
Just seems the OP community isn't as strong with help as the Nexus community.
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
N6p works on all american carriers.... OP3 only works on the GSM american providers... So choose wisely based on your provider
Other than that, both are fantastic phones with the N6P having the upper hand only because of software updates
I've had the 6p (gave to my son) and now own the OP3.
The OP3 community on XDA is quite good and there are several roms to choose from - no surprise as they are developer friendly. The official roms are behind somewhat, but I suppose that's to be expected.
Currently I'm running one of the Nougat roms (even though they have bugs with the video camera still) and am quite happy with the phone overall.
I would say that the OnePlus is the closest thing to a Nexus you will find. The build quality is good, and I'm loving the fingerprint sensor on the front where it should be.
I specifically bought this phone after I saw what was on offer from Google this year - overpriced, ugly phones.
Had a OP3 and traded it for the N6P. Can't go wrong with either phone, but if you're looking for the latest and greatest ROM wise, the N6P wins. OP3 dash charging is real and the file transfer speeds are crazy fast too. 6P was a better choice for me. The N roms on the OP3 aren't there yet. Camera quality is terrible for anything not based on the official roms. Screen size and front facing speakers were also a big factor for me.
To add to the discussion, the OnePlus 3 is a great overall phone for the price, and especially if you don't ever plan to update (as they are few and far between) it also doesn't have the overheating problems notorious of the 6P. However, the 6P will have faster updates and will most likely have a much longer life (in terms of development) than the OnePlus 3. They are both very comparable and you can't go wrong with either one.
Personally, I've played with both and like both, but I much prefer the 1440p panel of the 6P over the 1080p of the OP3.
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
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My only concern is that after a yeartor so the nexus 6p will be too slow
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And, specifically, OP is notoriously slow to update their stock software with new releases. My son has had an OP3 for months. He's had one security update and zero sign of Nougat on the horizon. While they aren't as bad as, say, Samsung, this is generally the problem with hardware manufacturers. Monthly security updates and being first for full version updates is a huge advantage to the 6p.
Plus, if you follow instructions and take your time it's actually pretty hard to brick a 6p.
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Samsung delivered 6.0 update faster than OP and are on par with google with security updates
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My only concern is that after a yeartor so the nexus 6p will be too slow
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Why would it more than any other phone? Had mine since pretty much release.
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Samsung delivered 6.0 update faster than OP and are on par with google with security updates
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Samsung has some of the bloatiest Android bastardization out there. Not sure how this is a comparison of the 6p and OP3.
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I have the LG G3 for 2 years now and i am ordering right now the 6P.... OP3 i have to buy voor 400 euros, no option plus is has smaller screen i hate... definitly the development will be there for this device, i will just go with CM15 or CM16 if official firmware is not released over 1.5 years. LG G3 also gets nouget but only custom rom... and with the speed, i still like my G3, its still fast... i guess last few years speed isnt really a thing i guess, as also for ram. 3 or 4 gb is enough, i never go beyond 2.5 gb of ram use on my current phone. As i am not going to use daydream virtual reality or those things... i am pretty standard and dont game on my phone. I just love to flash and tweak a phone.
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Why would it more than any other phone? Had mine since pretty much release.
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Samsung has some of the bloatiest Android bastardization out there. Not sure how this is a comparison of the 6p and OP3.
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Yeah. If you have a carrier version. Intl is great with not that much bloat, alot use Sammy's brower. The other Microsoft stuff are just shortcuts to playstore and they take no space at all
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Yeah. If you have a carrier version. Intl is great with not that much bloat, alot use Sammy's brower. The other Microsoft stuff are just shortcuts to playstore and they take no space at all
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With the 6p, you're better off buying from Google directly, notwithstanding their announcement yesterday which seems to move away from supporting the Nexus line. As far as Sammy bloat, not only am I talking about awful Samsung specific apps, but also Touchwiz (which while better recently, is still a pretty bad launcher/skin experience), but also their attempts to make it far harder to customize your phone. I've had three different Galaxy phones and will never again go in that direction.
Again, this is pretty off-topic since the OP was asking to compare the 6p and OP3. My son has the latter and, while they have been somewhat slow to release firmware updates, the software experience is far more user-centered and it's much easier to customize them since they stuck closer to stock. In fact, I can use the same ADB/fastboot commands to unlock BL/flash/root for either the OP3 or 6p. Using your Sammy example, modding the phone is an absolute gongshow since you need Odin and it's almost impossible to do easily on a Mac.
I'm stuck between these two also, and don't want to wait until 2017 for the next Google thing.
The only reason I'm hesitant on the OnePlus 3 is because of the resolution and the fingerprint/button on the front, I hate phones that have something on the front like that.
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With the 6p, you're better off buying from Google directly, notwithstanding their announcement yesterday which seems to move away from supporting the Nexus line. As far as Sammy bloat, not only am I talking about awful Samsung specific apps, but also Touchwiz (which while better recently, is still a pretty bad launcher/skin experience), but also their attempts to make it far harder to customize your phone. I've had three different Galaxy phones and will never again go in that direction.
Again, this is pretty off-topic since the OP was asking to compare the 6p and OP3. My son has the latter and, while they have been somewhat slow to release firmware updates, the software experience is far more user-centered and it's much easier to customize them since they stuck closer to stock. In fact, I can use the same ADB/fastboot commands to unlock BL/flash/root for either the OP3 or 6p. Using your Sammy example, modding the phone is an absolute gongshow since you need Odin and it's almost impossible to do easily on a Mac.
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If you are after modding then sammy is out of question. Otherwise sammy is on top of the list
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If you are after modding then sammy is out of question. Otherwise sammy is on top of the list
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In other words you're in a completely unrelated thread and trolling about your love of Samsung, which is completely off-topic from the question posed here.
It's really hard to choose
The nexus 6p has a better screen,better camera ans better speaker
While the oneplus 3 just flies through every task and a faster fingerprint sensor
memo45 said:
It's really hard to choose
The nexus 6p has a better screen,better camera ans better speaker
While the oneplus 3 just flies through every task and a faster fingerprint sensor
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I don't see how that's a hard choice. Snappiness can be a matter of ROM, kernel, and many other adjustable stuff. The 6p pluses you list aren't really adjustable.
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Hi developers,
I wonder how to handle the new Pixel phones from a developer point of view.
The last couple of years, I always used at least one nexus device (starting with a Nexus S) with the latest Android version as a development device. I often used it as a kind of benchmark/ base line, like "if it is working on the stock nexus device, and not on your device with the same android version, your manufacturer firmware or custom rom has a bug". Sure this does not mean I would not test with the most popular devices/ roms or implement some extra workarounds for these devices, but with so many different devices and roms the nexus device with "stock/pure android" was always my reference how it should work.
I don´t care about the price, tech spec or the look of the Pixel device, but I wonder how to handle "pixel exclusive" features ...and also the pixel exclusive bugs.
From my point of view, Pixel devices will not be the "stock/pure Android" reference, like the nexus device. Ok, nexus devices also did not cover all stock android features (like the IR api or even the SD card feature) but, at least, they did not contain any extra non stock features .....
So to make it short: How would you, with the alleged end of the nexus devices in mind, handle the Pixel devices from your developer point of view ?
I'm mainly considering getting this because I'm hoping development for it will be well supported. Surely this will be the baseline android with a few extra apps?
I'm a bit pessimistic about the developer support this phone will end up receiving, in comparison with past Nexus devices. The reason for this is that top developers can't usually go buy every phone that comes out, in order to develop for them. So they often rely on donations for others to chip in to greatly offset the cost of purchasing the phones for development.
In this case, the price is much greater than it was with the Nexus phones so it will likely require greater donations to get the Pixel and Pixel XL into the hands of our favorite developers. This may be a limiting factor with how much development this phone actually sees. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully some of the top developers will love the phone enough to jump on one or that they can get enough donations to pick one up.
Either way, time will tell.
I did think that. I'm still not sure what to do, pre order or wait and see. I've been looking at the oneplus3 but as I'm on a OnePlus 2 the support isn't huge for the development side of things compared to the old nexus devices which is what I always had
yep, I think I will have to wait and see ... if the Pixel becomes a top seller AND is the next best thing to a "pure android" device, I will surely use it as my new android development device .... otherwise I don´t know
The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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tacosrdelicioso said:
The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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I think the reason for that is most of the Android junkies (like us) tend to flock to the bigger devices since they spend so much time on them. Lately, I've found myself in the minority when I say that I sold my Nexus 6P simply because it was too big. I even find the OnePlus 3 to be slightly too big for me. And since the Pixel XL is just a smidge bigger than the OnePlus 3, I just can't go that route. But most others are going to go for the bigger device, I think.
The good news is that since the Pixel and Pixel XL are identical aside from the size, development for one should port to the regular Pixel (and vice versa) with relative ease.
I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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Lol, shower videos.
That is all.
Buy an unlockable model and it should be no different than any other model.
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